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Title: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: Bigron on 03 November 2016, 07:06:30
Can anyone come up with a convincing argument in favour of this biannual stupidity of changing the clocks? I mean a REAL argument, not the usual trite claptrap trotted out every time this topic is debated and fails to convince anyone. SO much time and effort wasted performing this pointless task in homes and businesses throughout the country, for zero benefit - we do not, never ever, get any more hours of daylight; the sun won't co-operate!
I recently saw a TV programme about the railways, where they actually did a sensib;e thing and unified time across the whole of the UK, nut even that brought about wholesale protests in the West Country! Apparently, the town hall clock in Bristol (I think) still has a clock with TWO minute hands, one for ocal time and the other for "railway" time....

Ron.
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: zirk on 03 November 2016, 12:39:47
Well. originally, wasn't it so the Kids could walk to School in daylight, in particular North England and Scotland.

Do Kids still walk to School?
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: zirk on 03 November 2016, 12:53:00
I also seem to remember in my Youth days, didn't they scrap it at one point and then a year or two later go back on it again.?

Or did I just dream that whilst I was walking to School in the dark.
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 03 November 2016, 13:16:01
Yes it's so we have lighter mornings.  Ron obviously dosn't get up very early.  :P  ;D
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: zirk on 03 November 2016, 13:20:24
Yes it's so we have lighter mornings.  Ron obviously dosn't get up very early.  :P  ;D
I dont know any Essex Boy that does, if Im honest.  ;D
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: Bigron on 03 November 2016, 15:10:59
Oi, slanderous b*ggers! When I had a job (retired college lecturer now), I used to be up at around 5AM to be at my desk before 7AM; this gave me more than 2 hours to drink coffee, chat to the cleaners and put in some uninterrupted work before the phones started ringing and my colleagues came in, talking bl**dy football!  8)

Ron.
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: TD on 03 November 2016, 17:39:24
I was always led to believe it was for the farmers benefit that the clocks went forward in the summertime, so that they had more daylight in the evenings for harvesting crops.....however as ive recently seen farmers harvesting 10-11pm in the summer months with floodlighting on machinery lighting up everything they are doing.....if that was the case it seems a bit irrelevant now  :-\
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: Bigron on 03 November 2016, 17:59:22
Exactly, TD - totally irrelevant and archaic with no place in modern socoety!  :y

Ron.
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: Bigron on 03 November 2016, 18:00:51
Sorry - "society"; I'm a bloke with big fingers so can't type..... :-[
Ron.
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 03 November 2016, 18:28:23
I like putting the clocks forward and back, as it marks the change in the seasons.  :y
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: 2boxerdogs on 03 November 2016, 18:32:03
Never bother changing ours, if I'm late so what if I'm on time it's a bonus.
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: TheBoy on 03 November 2016, 18:53:58
Don't all clocks change themselves now anyway? So whats the hardship?

That said, I know my CH thermostat doesn't, but as its locked down to 8C during BST, it never gets changed.
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: BazaJT on 03 November 2016, 19:00:05
I was always told it had been brought in for the farmers to get extra time harvesting in WW1,however it seems from google[or similar internet place]that it was introduced in 1907 so not war related at all.It was scrapped and re-introduced some time ago and since then whenever the idea of scrapping it has been mooted it has been the Scots who have put up the greatest objections.
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: Bigron on 03 November 2016, 22:41:41
The scotch are in the minority, numerically and in importance, so let's stick to the time dictated by the sun (GMT) the entire year round.  :y

Ron.
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: ronnyd on 03 November 2016, 22:49:11
I also seem to remember in my Youth days, didn't they scrap it at one point and then a year or two later go back on it again.?

Or did I just dream that whilst I was walking to School in the dark.
Yeah Zirk, i remember that little experiment as well. can,t remember exactly what year/years though. :y
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: Bigron on 03 November 2016, 23:02:38
Me too, and I also have vague memories of at least reading about "double summer time", where they put the clocks forward TWO hours in Spring!

Ron.
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: Andy B on 03 November 2016, 23:13:12
It's not just the UK that alters its clocks, other countries have 'day light saving' too. And though I'm not keen on it getting dark at 3:30 pm, GMT is the time that the world sets it's clocks against and I don't want to lose GMT
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: Bigron on 03 November 2016, 23:24:58
Andy, there is no way that we would ever lose GMT, it's the global datum point, along with the zero degrees meridian, also at Greenwich. Doesn't it make you proud.....

Ron.
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: Andy B on 03 November 2016, 23:27:24
Andy, there is no way that we would ever lose GMT, it's the global datum point, along with the zero degrees meridian, also at Greenwich. Doesn't it make you proud.....

Ron.

It does. But those that want to stay on BST would effectively mean that GMT wouldn't exist
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: Bigron on 03 November 2016, 23:33:13
Does anyone actually want permanent BST? That's even more bonkers! Who on earth could possibly be so outside of reality to want that? Sorry Andy, I'm not attacking you but until I read you just now I hadn't heard of such a suggestion - is it real?

Ron.
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: Andy B on 03 November 2016, 23:41:25
Does anyone actually want permanent BST? That's even more bonkers! Who on earth could possibly be so outside of reality to want that? Sorry Andy, I'm not attacking you but until I read you just now I hadn't heard of such a suggestion - is it real?

Ron.

I've heard it said many times that people would like to stay on BST ...... as you say though, there are only so many hours of daylight in a day
Title: Re: Messing about with the clocks.
Post by: Bigron on 03 November 2016, 23:53:29
Yep, and no amount of fiddling with clocks will give us any more. Ok, so it IS a serious suggestion from some people; baffling! Why invent another datum when we already have one, a perfectly natural one dictated by the sun?
If the scotch want a different time zone, let them cast themselves adrift from England and set their clocks to whatever Mickey Mouse time they want - the Americans do it all over their country and even THEY can cope with it!   :P

Ron.