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Title: age restriction.
Post by: pauls on 07 November 2016, 19:54:46
Hi can anybody advise on how i can block my kids viewing stuff on google. Can i password for say 15+
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: biggriffin on 07 November 2016, 19:59:23
You cant because they will out wit you, have to go via your isp, means you have to password it, then they just use there phones.you cant win.
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: VXL V6 on 07 November 2016, 22:00:25
If your router allows, you could change the DNS and set it up to point at something like OpenDNS, register with the OpenDNS site and block whatever you like.... not 100% but better than nothing - as long as you block any other free DNS on your router / firewall because they'll get round it!
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: ozzycat on 07 November 2016, 22:17:54
i know that some browsers you can put an age restriction on say 18  but they will work round that :( :(
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: tigers_gonads on 07 November 2016, 22:27:06
Do you think they have been looking at things that you feel they shouldn't do ?

Tbh, Big Griffin is spot on and in my experience they will just go behind your back  :(
Best to just keep a eye on there browser history ect and if you feel they have crossed a line, just have a quite word, back off a little while keeping a eye on them  :)
If the browser history gets deleted, start to worry  ;)
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: STEMO on 08 November 2016, 07:36:08
 🔨  💻  :y
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: pauls on 08 November 2016, 08:57:13
🔨  💻  :y

Thanks mate  :y But i dont think that will work.

He's not looking at anything he shouldn't he is just tying and seeing what comes up. well as you know sometimes you get a link to porn sites and at eight years old I think he is a bit young.
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 08 November 2016, 09:11:07
If you are concerned about porn etc then consider programs like net nanny, never seen them in use but I believe that's what they are used for.

Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: STEMO on 08 November 2016, 11:00:50
This what I used when my son was younger, it really works:

http://www1.k9webprotection.com
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: TheBoy on 08 November 2016, 17:51:13
There is only one solution to this, and that's some form of parental filtering.  All the big 5 implement it, and done right, it is difficult to work around.
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: STEMO on 08 November 2016, 17:53:13
The link I provided above let's you do all kinds of stuff, but I only used it on a PC.
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: TheBoy on 08 November 2016, 18:00:45
This what I used when my son was younger, it really works:

http://www1.k9webprotection.com
Bluecoat make some pretty good edge protection devices, but any solution running on the device being protected is always easily bypassed.
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: STEMO on 08 November 2016, 18:01:41
This what I used when my son was younger, it really works:

http://www1.k9webprotection.com
Bluecoat make some pretty good edge protection devices, but any solution running on the device being protected is always easily bypassed.
Well.....yeah...but by an 8 year old?
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: TheBoy on 08 November 2016, 18:03:50
This what I used when my son was younger, it really works:

http://www1.k9webprotection.com
Bluecoat make some pretty good edge protection devices, but any solution running on the device being protected is always easily bypassed.
Well.....yeah...but by an 8 year old?
Probably easier than we could ;D
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 November 2016, 15:39:25
This what I used when my son was younger, it really works:

http://www1.k9webprotection.com
Bluecoat make some pretty good edge protection devices, but any solution running on the device being protected is always easily bypassed.
Well.....yeah...but by an 8 year old?
Probably easier than we could ;D

When I was eight we had to make do with a magic slate and a packet of ten Players No6.

Porn was not freely available.
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: Shackeng on 09 November 2016, 16:22:40
Spick & Span. ::) :y
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: TD on 09 November 2016, 17:26:22
You cant because they will out wit you, have to go via your isp, means you have to password it, then they just use there phones.you cant win.

I think mobile phone providers automatically put a block on porn/dodgy/whatever sites on new connections. To have the restriction lifted you have to ask them and prove you are over 18 or it might be 16  :-\
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: Shackeng on 09 November 2016, 17:38:28
You cant because they will out wit you, have to go via your isp, means you have to password it, then they just use there phones.you cant win.

I think mobile phone providers automatically put a block on porn/dodgy/whatever sites on new connections. To have the restriction lifted you have to ask them and prove you are over 18 or it might be 16  :-\

We won't ask how you know that. ::) ;D
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: TD on 09 November 2016, 17:46:35
You cant because they will out wit you, have to go via your isp, means you have to password it, then they just use there phones.you cant win.

I think mobile phone providers automatically put a block on porn/dodgy/whatever sites on new connections. To have the restriction lifted you have to ask them and prove you are over 18 or it might be 16  :-\

We won't ask how you know that. ::) ;D

I didn't say I know....I said I think  :)
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 10 November 2016, 16:44:01
This what I used when my son was younger, it really works:

http://www1.k9webprotection.com
Bluecoat make some pretty good edge protection devices, but any solution running on the device being protected is always easily bypassed.
Well.....yeah...but by an 8 year old?
Probably easier than we could ;D

When I was eight we had to make do with a magic slate and a packet of ten Players No6.

Porn was not freely available.

Did you not have hedges nearby?

You cant because they will out wit you, have to go via your isp, means you have to password it, then they just use there phones.you cant win.

I think mobile phone providers automatically put a block on porn/dodgy/whatever sites on new connections. To have the restriction lifted you have to ask them and prove you are over 18 or it might be 16  :-\

We won't ask how you know that. ::) ;D

I didn't say I know....I said I think  :)

It's very true... I used to get people ringing me when I worked for [a mobile phone company I dare not name]... "please could you lift the content filter on my phone, I want to access... er... the lottery website".
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: Gaffers on 10 November 2016, 22:12:58
Any filtering protection is easy to bypass with something like google translate.  I had this issue when working in france and the service provider didn't believe me when I said that it was possible, so I did a demo and videoconf'ed a live sex show on my PC broadcast to the supplier while bypassing the protection ;D ;D

We had to implement packet inspection which means installing a 3rd party certificate in the trusted CA on the machine.  Getting the legal bit right was the hard part.  Not something to take lightly.  You could find something that logs the domains they are visiting and you can then audit the logs on a regular basis, but do you really want to go that far?
Title: Re: age restriction.
Post by: TheBoy on 11 November 2016, 18:03:38
We had to implement packet inspection which means installing a 3rd party certificate in the trusted CA on the machine.  Getting the legal bit right was the hard part.  Not something to take lightly.  You could find something that logs the domains they are visiting and you can then audit the logs on a regular basis, but do you really want to go that far?
Ignoring the Bluecoat/Symantec ongoing debate about dodgy trusted Inter Certs for a mo, that is only possible if the perimeter owner (ISP in case of a consumer) owns the device (PC, phone etc)

Most big ISPs do DPI to prevent bypasses