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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Sir Tigger KC on 24 November 2016, 14:41:47

Title: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 24 November 2016, 14:41:47
My old girl has started to take a while to get up to temp and the LPG also is taking ages to kick in.  :(

I was thinking that the Stat was sticking but then today when the LPG didn't kick in I ragged it and then it did, but as soon as I get into slow traffic or car park etc then it goes back to petrol.

So wondering about the water pump.  There's no obvious leaks or anything else wrong.  :-\

TIA.  :y
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 24 November 2016, 15:06:18
Sounds like thermostat to me. Whats the temperature gauge doing ?
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 24 November 2016, 15:17:51
Sits at about 85 goes up to 90 when driven hard, back to 85 when in traffic.  The stat was my first thought TBH.  :-\
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 November 2016, 17:20:56
If you start it up from cold, does the top rad. hose start warming up as soon as there's heat in the engine or does it stay cool until it's reached running temperature then suddenly get very hot?

Can you feel heat in the hoses to the evaporator while it's warming up?
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 24 November 2016, 18:13:44
Havn't done that yet.  :y     Far too windy today!!  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 25 November 2016, 11:07:58
After 10 minutes of idling it only gets to just before 80 degrees and the top hose is still cold, although there's some warmth in the hoses going to the vapouriser. 

So I guess the thermostat is stuck and it's only 2 years old as well!  What a @$%&er!  ::)  :(
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 November 2016, 11:29:19
Nope. Thermostat sounds fine if the top radiator hose is still cold. :y
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 25 November 2016, 11:38:44
O ...  :-\ 

Any ideas then?   :(
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 November 2016, 11:43:58
I wonder if something is restricting the flow through the vapouriser? Blocked heater matrix? HBV issue? Depends how it's all plumbed, of course. Could be the water pump, I suppose. Plastic impeller that's started to break up, perhaps?
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 25 November 2016, 14:45:26
The vapouriser is plumbed direct from the back of the block through the vapouriser and back to the HBV.   :)

Pretty sure the water pump has metal impellers.  Fitted about 3 years/28000 miles ago at last cambelt change.
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 November 2016, 16:20:25
OK, so for decent flow through the vapouriser, the HBV and heater matrix do need to be free flowing.

Also, as the coolant temperature is sampled at the bridge where this flow exits, a blockage somewhere would slow down the coolant temperature reading.

I think you'd have signs of overheating too if the water pump had died.
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 25 November 2016, 16:47:45
I've just been out testing and it all seems to work better with the heating off, which would confirm what you've said.  I think I have a spare HBV somewhere, so maybe I'll try that.  :y

How about chucking some descaler or central heating cleaner in the header tank?  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: 106pete on 25 November 2016, 17:01:59
Having very similar issue with mine and guessed thermostat but I'll have to check that pipe first I guess, the thermostat sounds a pita job on the v6.

I just did a 600mile trip to Essex and only hit 90deg while giving it some, although around town it's fine.
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Toledodude1973 on 25 November 2016, 19:35:12
90deg is about right ...isn't it?
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 25 November 2016, 20:39:03
90deg is about right ...isn't it?

 :y
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: 106pete on 25 November 2016, 21:54:48
85deg while cruising at 70, felt that was a little low? Even heaters seemed colder than my preferred 22. Maybe I just don't do enough cruising  :-\
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: TheBoy on 26 November 2016, 11:13:34
Although the gauge markings vary with age, cruising should be just under the mid point on the gauge.  In traffic, this should rise to just above mid point, when the fans kick in and drag in back down.
Title: Re: Thermostat or WP?
Post by: Shackeng on 27 November 2016, 19:36:49
The low output from the heater on HI will be an indicator as to heater matrix condition. :y