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Title: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 21 January 2017, 17:18:51
Have a brace of 3.2s needing a change - and buypartsby seems to have disappeared from the interweb?

Best price VX can do is £180 each or thereabouts. .. if I buy a Contitech kit via ATPs eBay shop that should be genuine right? Looking at £ 130 each at the moment.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 21 January 2017, 17:25:43
Yep, they have gone up significantly since I last did mine. Your deal sounds about right.

I find the earlier kits with the 2 adjustable pullies are cheaper if you don't mind swapping the backplate over.

BuyPartsBy are these people, I think? http://www.suttonautofactors.co.uk/ (http://www.suttonautofactors.co.uk/)
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: tunnie on 21 January 2017, 17:33:05
Good job I have one in garage from years ago then, bought one for £80 few years back.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: steve6367 on 21 January 2017, 18:21:27
Have a brace of 3.2s needing a change - and buypartsby seems to have disappeared from the interweb?

Best price VX can do is £180 each or thereabouts. .. if I buy a Contitech kit via ATPs eBay shop that should be genuine right? Looking at £ 130 each at the moment.

That is a massive price hike - are they offering any discount?
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 21 January 2017, 20:45:14
Have a brace of 3.2s needing a change - and buypartsby seems to have disappeared from the interweb?

Best price VX can do is £180 each or thereabouts. .. if I buy a Contitech kit via ATPs eBay shop that should be genuine right? Looking at £ 130 each at the moment.

That is a massive price hike - are they offering any discount?

MrsGK asked her colleague and assumes she was doing it as cheap as possible. .. she is going to double check on Monday and I will report back :y
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 January 2017, 20:53:28
Sounds like a retail/workshop price rather than the more traditional trade counter one...

That said, you could see if they're doing a fixed price for supplied and fitted... you never know, it might be £240 :D
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 22 January 2017, 07:30:57
Iirc, you can use the 3ltr kit if you sort out the pulleys with the added advantage of been able to adjust both sides for tension  ;)
You might find they are cheaper  ;)
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: BazaJT on 22 January 2017, 09:52:18
I seem to recall-from on here-that back plate excepted V6 timing belt kits are a "one size fits all"deal?I've just looked through my paperwork and on 15/3/16 I paid £44.62p for a timing belt kit from a company advertising on e-bay.This was a Contitech belt with SKF bearings and included a water pump with metal impeller.DLK came and fitted it for me and swapped the bearings/tensioners over onto the existing backplate which from what I saw was no hassle to do.I've refrained from naming the company I got mine from as I'm unsure whether this is allowed on here,but would be happy to do so if it is.I have no connection with the company other than that I bought the kit from them.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: terry paget on 22 January 2017, 16:29:14
I seem to recall-from on here-that back plate excepted V6 timing belt kits are a "one size fits all"deal?I've just looked through my paperwork and on 15/3/16 I paid £44.62p for a timing belt kit from a company advertising on e-bay.This was a Contitech belt with SKF bearings and included a water pump with metal impeller.DLK came and fitted it for me and swapped the bearings/tensioners over onto the existing backplate which from what I saw was no hassle to do.I've refrained from naming the company I got mine from as I'm unsure whether this is allowed on here,but would be happy to do so if it is.I have no connection with the company other than that I bought the kit from them.
That certainly is cheap, including as it does a water pump. I bought a couple of INA kits last summer after some time watching e-bay for bargains. I bought the first for a belt change that was due, then some e-bay outfit had some it wanted to shift and pestered me with ever better offers. Eventually I bought one for stock at £30, though I had no need for it at the time. I suppose, as Nick W said about plugs, these are consumable items for mass market cars and with patience bargains can be found. God bless the internet!
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 22 January 2017, 19:53:06
Baza - any chance of a link? Im certainly game for swapping bits over if it saves me that much!  :y
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 22 January 2017, 20:14:28
Bought mine from Eurocraprats ebay shop last May for £100.79.
Now about £9 more.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Timing-Belt-Kit-Cam-Belt-Chain-Kit-Vauxhall-Vectra-2-6I-V6-3-2-V6-2000-2008-/331055302647?fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega&hash=item4d146f07f7:g:lBoAAOxyx-BSb5CF
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Nick W on 22 January 2017, 20:16:03


That certainly is cheap, including as it does a water pump. I bought a couple of INA kits last summer after some time watching e-bay for bargains. I bought the first for a belt change that was due, then some e-bay outfit had some it wanted to shift and pestered me with ever better offers. Eventually I bought one for stock at £30, though I had no need for it at the time. I suppose, as Nick W said about plugs, these are consumable items for mass market cars and with patience bargains can be found. God bless the internet!


And you can swap patience for convenience; a Continental belt kit for my car on the shelf at ECP retails for 2/3 of the quoted Vauxhall price. That's from just a few seconds on their website with my reg number.


But I agree with Terry, a cambelt is planned maintenance(four years or 40k miles are unlikely to sneak up on you!) and can easily be sourced in plenty of time. The one I fitted about 18months ago was bought a couple of months earlier and was about £80. No, I don't remember who the supplier was.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: terry paget on 22 January 2017, 22:54:48
Prowling e-bay for timing (cam belt) kits for V6 Omegas, the Gates, Contitech and AC Delco kits depict the belt, the 2 pulleys on the backing plate and the idler pulley, but not the sprung tensioner pulley. I cannot believe they do not include the tensioner pulley; why is it not depicted? When last seeking a kit I enquired of the AC Delco kit vendor whether the kit included the tensioner, and was told it did not. Please explain what is going on.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: BazaJT on 22 January 2017, 23:03:50
I'm no good at doing links and the like,but I've pm'd you Gastronomickleptomaniac.Hope it's of help to you.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: tidla on 22 January 2017, 23:37:24
Leave till original the Vauxhall schedule and save your self some money.

(runs and hides)
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Nick W on 22 January 2017, 23:44:04
Prowling e-bay for timing (cam belt) kits for V6 Omegas, the Gates, Contitech and AC Delco kits depict the belt, the 2 pulleys on the backing plate and the idler pulley, but not the sprung tensioner pulley. I cannot believe they do not include the tensioner pulley; why is it not depicted? When last seeking a kit I enquired of the AC Delco kit vendor whether the kit included the tensioner, and was told it did not. Please explain what is going on.


You're confused.


There are only 3 pulleys in a belt kit: the two attached to the backing plate(which are between the heads, and the lower pulley on the driver's side) and the separate lower pulley on the passenger side.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: tidla on 22 January 2017, 23:59:07
Seriously, for the first time ever. I fitted a gates kit to a 05 plate astra 17 deisesal, which ive performed on a few occasions.

two months later the idles pulley shell creaped across to cut a hole in the back cover!

(http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k536/tidla1/DSC_1151_zpsimcb3ufr.jpg)

Strangely, the replacement under warranty kit was skf.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: terry paget on 23 January 2017, 08:54:27
Prowling e-bay for timing (cam belt) kits for V6 Omegas, the Gates, Contitech and AC Delco kits depict the belt, the 2 pulleys on the backing plate and the idler pulley, but not the sprung tensioner pulley. I cannot believe they do not include the tensioner pulley; why is it not depicted? When last seeking a kit I enquired of the AC Delco kit vendor whether the kit included the tensioner, and was told it did not. Please explain what is going on.


You're confused.


There are only 3 pulleys in a belt kit: the two attached to the backing plate(which are between the heads, and the lower pulley on the driver's side) and the separate lower pulley on the passenger side.
Thank you Nick. I was indeed confused, thinking of the tensioner pulley on the 4 cylinder cam belt system. Just checked on my spare INA kit, it has only 3 pulleys, tensioner is on a pulley on the backplate.
This makes this AC Delco kit at £19.99 free postage a good buy.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saab-9-5-Opel-Astra-Corsa-Vectra-Omega-Cavalier-Heater-Control-Valve-90566947-/262421638836?hash=item3d198c6eb4:g:ohQAAOSwT5tWHiIj
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 23 January 2017, 10:26:57
I found those ACDelco ones (not the HBV youve linked to ;) ) and thought they were suspiciously cheap...
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Figureman52 on 23 January 2017, 15:43:31
Just been quoted by Sutton Auto Factors £76.68 inc VAT for Cambelt Kit for my 2.6.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 January 2017, 16:43:54
Just been quoted by Sutton Auto Factors £76.68 inc VAT for Cambelt Kit for my 2.6.

Grab 'em while you can at that price. :y
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 23 January 2017, 20:29:54
Just been quoted by Sutton Auto Factors £76.68 inc VAT for Cambelt Kit for my 2.6.

What make is it? Going to ring the local factors tomorrow... have bagsied myself one Contitech kit for under £50 from a factors having a clearance on eBay so just need one more!
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: spanish_lad on 23 January 2017, 22:31:12
isnt this the right one, for 56 quid?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-GATES-V-RIBBED-BELT-SET-K056PK2260-/351467264946?fits=Car+Make%3AOpel%7CModel%3AOmega+B%7CCars+Year%3A1995%7CPlat_Gen%3AB%7CCars+Type%3A2.5+V6&hash=item51d514dbb2:g:ZZYAAOSw9N1VuWCJ

i´d do the water pump as well. do you need some sort of "kit" to fit it with too? like a locking tool? i imagine that its essential  :o :o
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Shackeng on 23 January 2017, 22:38:25
Will the 3.0l kit fit a 3.2? :-\
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: terry paget on 23 January 2017, 22:45:50
Will the 3.0l kit fit a 3.2? :-\
Yes. As said earlier on this thread, all V6 kits will fit all Omega V6 engines. You may have to change the back plate, but that is trivial.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 23 January 2017, 23:03:48
isnt this the right one, for 56 quid?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-GATES-V-RIBBED-BELT-SET-K056PK2260-/351467264946?fits=Car+Make%3AOpel%7CModel%3AOmega+B%7CCars+Year%3A1995%7CPlat_Gen%3AB%7CCars+Type%3A2.5+V6&hash=item51d514dbb2:g:ZZYAAOSw9N1VuWCJ

i´d do the water pump as well. do you need some sort of "kit" to fit it with too? like a locking tool? i imagine that its essential  :o :o

I think that's the aux. belt and tensioner pulley not the cam belt. ;)

The cam belt does require a locking kit for correct fitting.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 January 2017, 01:29:53
On a side note, is there a recommended locking kit for the Desmond?
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: tigers_gonads on 24 January 2017, 05:23:04
Will the 3.0l kit fit a 3.2? :-\


Yes and better imo  :y
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: terry paget on 24 January 2017, 07:24:36
I found those ACDelco ones (not the HBV youve linked to ;) ) and thought they were suspiciously cheap...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AC-Delco-Timing-belt-kit-Vauxhall-Vectra-Calibra-Cavalier-2-5-Omega-2-5-2-6-3-0-/200878032761?fits=Model%3AOmega&hash=item2ec5438779:g:NoQAAOxy5fJR5pIh
Sorry about the wrong reference. I have fitted many kits in my time, from many suppliers, and the only rotten ones came from Vauxhall. They came in plain boxes, with unlined belts, fitted all right but whined, especially when cold. I think JamesV6CDX suffered similarly. AC Delco usd to be part of General Motors, did it not?
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: aaronjb on 24 January 2017, 08:22:05
AC Delco usd to be part of General Motors, did it not?

Still is  :y
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: TheBoy on 24 January 2017, 08:35:52
On a side note, is there a recommended locking kit for the Desmond?
A £5 wedge is fine for the Omega 4 pot petrols - as the design means its either correct, or a tooth (or more!) out.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: terry paget on 24 January 2017, 09:04:14
Leave till original the Vauxhall schedule and save your self some money.

(runs and hides)
Is that still 80K miles or 8 years? The impression I get buying used Omegas regularly is that once out of warranty Omegas only get basic servicing (oil change, tyres, plugs and brake pads as MOTs demand) and soldier on ruggedly for 10 or more years until something major fails.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 January 2017, 14:14:45
Leave till original the Vauxhall schedule and save your self some money.

(runs and hides)
Is that still 80K miles or 8 years? The impression I get buying used Omegas regularly is that once out of warranty Omegas only get basic servicing (oil change, tyres, plugs and brake pads as MOTs demand) and soldier on ruggedly for 10 or more years until something major fails.

GM changed the interval to  40K/4 Years due to the number of warranty claims for broken cam belts.

If you feel lucky you can try to push yours to 80k but, having been on here long enough to see a few cam belts fail when neglected, and some even within 40K, I know what I'd rather do. ;)

That said, mine's currently 2k overdue. :-[
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 January 2017, 15:24:48
The shortened interval only came about as certain dealers were only changing the belts, resulting in pulley failures... affected the Vectra B too.

I wonder if the same dealers were also passing off cheap parts as genuine with a view to dramatically increasing revenue :-\
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 January 2017, 15:48:23
The shortened interval only came about as certain dealers were only changing the belts, resulting in pulley failures... affected the Vectra B too.

I wonder if the same dealers were also passing off cheap parts as genuine with a view to dramatically increasing revenue :-\

Possibly.

As I say, if you feel lucky... ;)

The GM recommendation remains at 40k / 4 years.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 January 2017, 16:27:38
I did mine every 80k, but then, it was doing 800+ miles a week, so on time, was about half the interval :-\
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 24 January 2017, 19:03:30
What do we reckon then chaps - ACDelco ones worth a bash? I will be fitting with the help of a tame guru, but he isn't VAT registered so I imagine if it goes pop then I couldn't claim against them/ the seller/ my dustman...

Yes, I may have forgotten to ring the factors today on my "break"...

Nothing like positive thinking!
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: terry paget on 24 January 2017, 22:30:03
What do we reckon then chaps - ACDelco ones worth a bash? I will be fitting with the help of a tame guru, but he isn't VAT registered so I imagine if it goes pop then I couldn't claim against them/ the seller/ my dustman...

Yes, I may have forgotten to ring the factors today on my "break"...

Nothing like positive thinking!
The last AC Delco kit has gone. Did you buy it?
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: steve6367 on 24 January 2017, 22:32:23
What do we reckon then chaps - ACDelco ones worth a bash? I will be fitting with the help of a tame guru, but he isn't VAT registered so I imagine if it goes pop then I couldn't claim against them/ the seller/ my dustman...

Yes, I may have forgotten to ring the factors today on my "break"...

Nothing like positive thinking!

In the photo it seems to be missing one pulley....
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 25 January 2017, 06:22:54
What do we reckon then chaps - ACDelco ones worth a bash? I will be fitting with the help of a tame guru, but he isn't VAT registered so I imagine if it goes pop then I couldn't claim against them/ the seller/ my dustman...

Yes, I may have forgotten to ring the factors today on my "break"...

Nothing like positive thinking!

In the photo it seems to be missing one pulley....

I thought I was going mad! No I haven't bought it... wonder if an OOFer has!
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: steve6367 on 25 January 2017, 07:37:21
There are still some there on a different listing, but if the photo is correct it does not look complete.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: terry paget on 25 January 2017, 11:01:09
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AC-Delco-Timing-belt-kit-Saab-900-2-5-9000-3-0-/200878034873?fits=Model%3AOmega&hash=item2ec5438fb9:g:ZikAAOxy5QtR83dB
Here it is again, though as observed the picture lacks the third pulley.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 25 January 2017, 11:22:58
I reckon someone's dangling a carrot, but be interested to hear otherwise. ;)
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 26 January 2017, 15:11:18
Quick update - carparts4less are selling Conti v6 kits at £85 a pop...

On eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=400596788018&alt=web
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 26 January 2017, 15:23:35
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AC-Delco-Timing-belt-kit-Saab-900-2-5-9000-3-0-/200878034873?fits=Model%3AOmega&hash=item2ec5438fb9:g:ZikAAOxy5QtR83dB
Here it is again, though as observed the picture lacks the third pulley.

I emailed the guy to ask, as I need a kit for the Elite

I asked:

Hi. Does this kit contain three rollers - the two attached to the tensioner, and also a separate, lower idler which looks similar?

Response:

This image is not a generic image, the images shown shows exactly what you will recieve. I am aware there are 2 or 3 different types of this kit dependant upon your chassis and engine numbers. The one you are talking about retails out at around the £100 mark. If you send me the registratons of the vehicles you need these for i can quote you a price ?
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 January 2017, 15:38:10
 :D

Funny that. I got:

Did a Buy it Now.
"Can you send me your registration number so I can check it's the correct kit"?
"I'm happy to take the item offered, please as long it is complete with all 3 pullies"
Instant refund "Incorrect item for application....etc"
"You'll be needing this item. It's a bit more expensive: £100"...
"f.. oxtrott..oscar!"

That's a very popular photo, considering it's not "generic". ::)

Conclusion : No such thing as cam belt kits for £20. ::)
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 January 2017, 15:38:50
Oh, and who's next? ;)
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 26 January 2017, 16:31:22
Oh, and who's next? ;)

You could just buy two of these, and use the adjustable top idler from the second kit, with your old rear washer and bolt, as a bottom pulley. You're still getting a cambelt kit for £40  :y

Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 26 January 2017, 16:33:37
In my case, I saw someone selling a brand new lower idler for a tenner. So I bought one of these kits for £20, plus a new lower (fixed) idler - so I have essentially obtained a cambelt kit for £30.

Appreciate it might have been sat around for a while, but A) It's not big money to take a punt and B) Who knows how long euro car parts shite has been sat around also?
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 26 January 2017, 16:52:32
In my case, I saw someone selling a brand new lower idler for a tenner. So I bought one of these kits for £20, plus a new lower (fixed) idler - so I have essentially obtained a cambelt kit for £30.

Appreciate it might have been sat around for a while, but A) It's not big money to take a punt and B) Who knows how long euro car parts shite has been sat around also?

Good point. So the kit for £20 does actually exist?

Shall we start trying registration numbers 'til we get a hit? :D
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 January 2017, 16:54:13
Always worth a cruise around Car Parts Connexion as although the kits are rarer there is often the individual parts available.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: TheBoy on 26 January 2017, 18:04:57
So ECP up to their usual tricks. Who'd believe that :P
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Nick W on 26 January 2017, 18:45:55
In my case, I saw someone selling a brand new lower idler for a tenner. So I bought one of these kits for £20, plus a new lower (fixed) idler - so I have essentially obtained a cambelt kit for £30.

Appreciate it might have been sat around for a while, but A) It's not big money to take a punt and B) Who knows how long euro car parts shite has been sat around also?


I'd expect Vauxhall supplied parts to be older still, but it wouldn't make any difference to me
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: biggriffin on 26 January 2017, 19:04:10
Always worth a cruise around Car Parts Connexion as although the kits are rarer there is often the individual parts available.
.

I have tried on several occasions to buy parts from various dealers on there, and when contacting to purchase, the parts become unavailable, or they can't find them.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 26 January 2017, 19:08:56
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AC-Delco-Timing-belt-kit-Saab-900-2-5-9000-3-0-/200878034873?fits=Model%3AOmega&hash=item2ec5438fb9:g:ZikAAOxy5QtR83dB
Here it is again, though as observed the picture lacks the third pulley.

I emailed the guy to ask, as I need a kit for the Elite

I asked:

Hi. Does this kit contain three rollers - the two attached to the tensioner, and also a separate, lower idler which looks similar?

Response:

This image is not a generic image, the images shown shows exactly what you will recieve. I am aware there are 2 or 3 different types of this kit dependant upon your chassis and engine numbers. The one you are talking about retails out at around the £100 mark. If you send me the registratons of the vehicles you need these for i can quote you a price ?

Definitely a dangling carrot then! Is that perhaps a misadvertised (yes, thats a word) diesel kit?
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 26 January 2017, 19:28:45
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AC-Delco-Timing-belt-kit-Saab-900-2-5-9000-3-0-/200878034873?fits=Model%3AOmega&hash=item2ec5438fb9:g:ZikAAOxy5QtR83dB
Here it is again, though as observed the picture lacks the third pulley.

I emailed the guy to ask, as I need a kit for the Elite

I asked:

Hi. Does this kit contain three rollers - the two attached to the tensioner, and also a separate, lower idler which looks similar?

Response:

This image is not a generic image, the images shown shows exactly what you will recieve. I am aware there are 2 or 3 different types of this kit dependant upon your chassis and engine numbers. The one you are talking about retails out at around the £100 mark. If you send me the registratons of the vehicles you need these for i can quote you a price ?

Definitely a dangling carrot then! Is that perhaps a misadvertised (yes, thats a word) diesel kit?

No, diesels are all chain driven. The parts shown are for v6 :y
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 January 2017, 20:16:00
Always worth a cruise around Car Parts Connexion as although the kits are rarer there is often the individual parts available.
.

I have tried on several occasions to buy parts from various dealers on there, and when contacting to purchase, the parts become unavailable, or they can't find them.

I have had exactly the same experience. I gave up on it a long time ago.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 27 January 2017, 08:18:52
Interesting as I have not had any problems (yet) with car parts connexion.

Just ordered one of the £20 kits to see what happens...........
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: TheBoy on 27 January 2017, 08:27:02
I've had mostly good experiences with Car Parts Connexion.  The poor experiences were usually around "oh, you'll have to call back when Bob is in" type hassles.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 January 2017, 08:59:45
Have had some bargains from them, but on occasion, you get "That's at xxx branch, and will be two days/£££..." fffs why advertise as in stock at the clearance price then... >:(

That reminds me. Must have a rummage for project...
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 27 January 2017, 15:24:17
Well my £20 kit has been dispatched so if anybody needs it......(just add an idler)
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 28 January 2017, 13:50:47
Well my £20 kit has been dispatched so if anybody needs it......(just add an idler)

Mine has arrived - prompt delivery but no lower idler

Backplate looks like an early EB one

Will post pics in a bit
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Andy H on 28 January 2017, 16:25:13
Well my £20 kit has been dispatched so if anybody needs it......(just add an idler)

Mine has arrived - prompt delivery but no lower idler

Backplate looks like an early EB one

Will post pics in a bit
So the tensioner is there but not the fixed idler?

What make are the bearings?
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 28 January 2017, 16:35:14
Well my £20 kit has been dispatched so if anybody needs it......(just add an idler)

Mine has arrived - prompt delivery but no lower idler

Backplate looks like an early EB one

Will post pics in a bit
So the tensioner is there but not the fixed idler?

What make are the bearings?

Will check shortly :y
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: steve6367 on 29 January 2017, 10:22:15
Well my £20 kit has been dispatched so if anybody needs it......(just add an idler)

Mine has arrived - prompt delivery but no lower idler

Backplate looks like an early EB one

Will post pics in a bit

I wonder where they came from to not have the idler....
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: terry paget on 29 January 2017, 10:46:24
Well my £20 kit has been dispatched so if anybody needs it......(just add an idler)

Mine has arrived - prompt delivery but no lower idler

Backplate looks like an early EB one

Will post pics in a bit

I wonder where they came from to not have the idler....
Some packaging company got the job stuffing boxes with components, instructions got garbled, and thousands of boxes were done before the error was discovered. Pallets were eventually returned as 'incomplete' and instead of correcting they were sold off, ending up on e-bay. Just a theory, if true then buying 2 boxes gets me one compete kit for £40, I'll settle for that.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 January 2017, 13:55:02
Returned dealer stock from when they only changed the belt...
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Strangechap on 19 February 2017, 12:09:36
Been reading this thread with interest as my belt is almost up to needing replacement.

So, do we think that the quality of these £20 jobbies looked ok and ordering two would take care of the missing idler pulley by using one from the second kit?

James, was the bearing manufacturer kosher?

If it was, I'll probably grab a couple today.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 19 February 2017, 14:43:59
Yeah skf bearings, as used by vx. Buy two of these, use your old backplate, but new bolts and nut / washer on the tensioner as supplied, job done. Just use the top idler from the second kit, as a lower idler, using your original washer

£40 cambelt kit, jobs a Goodun. That's what I did on my elite :y
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Strangechap on 19 February 2017, 15:35:11
Thanks mate, seems like it all checks out then.

I've just ordered two kits. The Vauxhall one was showing it's the last remaining, but I saw some Saab ones listed and they are the same. Double checked and they both list the miggy.

As an added bonus, if you order 2 at the same time, you get 5% discount. Happy days.

Tim

Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: biggriffin on 20 February 2017, 07:54:44
  clinky linky thingy's. Please ;)
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Strangechap on 20 February 2017, 18:34:14
Here's the clicky linky thingy to the Saaby onesys...  :)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=192109453999#ht_2276wt_1165
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Strangechap on 20 February 2017, 19:55:38
So now I find this message in my ebay inbox:

"These models have 3 different timing belt kits depending on the engine number. The registration number provided for the Vauxhall Omega shows that you need eBay item 191920496337. To be on the safe side could you please forward the registration number for the Saab."

A load of old ballcocks right?

Item 191920496337 being the expensive kit with the 3rd pulley.

BOTH listings, the Vauxhall and Saab list:

   "Vauxhall   Omega   2000   B [1994-2004]   Estate   3.0 V6   2962ccm 211HP 155KW (Petrol)"

Which is my engine.

Both the listings also have the exact same part numbers.

I already told him I don't have a Saab, and the kits are the same. I just need 2.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 February 2017, 20:00:25
So now I find this message in my ebay inbox:

"These models have 3 different timing belt kits depending on the engine number. The registration number provided for the Vauxhall Omega shows that you need eBay item 191920496337. To be on the safe side could you please forward the registration number for the Saab."

A load of old ballcocks right?

Item 191920496337 being the expensive kit with the 3rd pulley.

BOTH listings, the Vauxhall and Saab list:

   "Vauxhall   Omega   2000   B [1994-2004]   Estate   3.0 V6   2962ccm 211HP 155KW (Petrol)"

Which is my engine.

Both the listings also have the exact same part numbers.

I already told him I don't have a Saab, and the kits are the same. I just need 2.

 That sounds like the same chancer I tried to buy from. ::)
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Strangechap on 20 February 2017, 21:02:56
Does doesn't it?

'spares-hq' is his ebay name.

I've messaged him back, if he still persists in trying to get me to buy the other item, I'll tell him to sling his hook and I'll find one somewhere else (even if it costs me more lol).

And I'll contact ebay too and tell them the seller is listing items that don't actually fit the makes and models he's saying they should.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 20 February 2017, 21:09:01
Yep, same seller. ::)
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Strangechap on 21 February 2017, 18:25:11
Well, after I messaged them back yesterday and said I was happy they would fit my engine and could they just send them, I got this reply:

"We'll get them sent today, and thank you."

 :y
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Strangechap on 23 February 2017, 22:58:10
Kits arrived today, all present and correct. Part numbers exactly the same for both the Saab and Vaux versions.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: cam.in.head on 26 February 2017, 20:10:11
Same here. Originally asked for reg number to check fitment. I told him id not bought car yet but please send. Item arrived two days later. All skf stuff.6 kits listed as available now so gonna get a second one now.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: cam.in.head on 26 February 2017, 20:13:34
5 now !
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Mr.OmegaMan on 27 February 2017, 00:26:47
Could always say you have 2 Saab 9000 hence why I purchased 2 kits?
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: cam.in.head on 28 February 2017, 18:13:54
Seller must have a fair few of these . They keep popping back up with more available .seems the chapest way of getting a full kit. And providing they are all skf they should be good.
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Shackeng on 28 February 2017, 19:37:56
Does the belt come as well? :y
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: cam.in.head on 28 February 2017, 19:40:16
Yes .its all there .except the second pulley.hence two kits does the job
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Shackeng on 03 March 2017, 16:38:28
So now I find this message in my ebay inbox:

"These models have 3 different timing belt kits depending on the engine number. The registration number provided for the Vauxhall Omega shows that you need eBay item 191920496337. To be on the safe side could you please forward the registration number for the Saab."

A load of old ballcocks right?

Item 191920496337 being the expensive kit with the 3rd pulley.

BOTH listings, the Vauxhall and Saab list:

   "Vauxhall   Omega   2000   B [1994-2004]   Estate   3.0 V6   2962ccm 211HP 155KW (Petrol)"

Which is my engine.

Both the listings also have the exact same part numbers.

I already told him I don't have a Saab, and the kits are the same. I just need 2.

Just ordered two sets, and he requested the registration.
I replied "No reg mate, these are going in stock for future customers." ::)
"OK, their on the way."

Result :y
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: cam.in.head on 03 March 2017, 16:41:07
Still listing 2 available. Wonder how many he has left ?
Title: Re: 3.2 timing belt kits - where from?
Post by: Strangechap on 03 March 2017, 21:44:24

Just ordered two sets, and he requested the registration.
I replied "No reg mate, these are going in stock for future customers." ::)
"OK, their on the way."

Result :y

Nice job mate.