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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: 78bex on 22 January 2017, 22:38:27
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With a range of 16 miles I thought I could just about make it home last night
Got completed distracted as Chichester approached by a very tipsy Swmbo ::)
Now it`s 12 miles to empty with about 14 miles to go. I`m sure I can make it home
Turn the ECO button on & cruise along @ about 58 mph still on the A27 heading west.
I could divert to Havant Tesco, it`s gone 1 AM do they have a card only pump that works?
On a nice flat motorway with hardly any traffic, 2 miles to empty.
Nadgers range is Zero miles & she`s cruising nicely, so I reset the trip.
At zero plus 3 miles we`ve made it back home :y
Last time I do that, gets the old nerves jangling a bit
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Fuel light roulette.
Let's hope you have another vehicle and a petrol can :D
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Many many many moons ago in your neck of the woods, before we had trip computers ;D .... I drove to Whale Island in my Dad's Cortina and ended up there on fumes ... they didn't have 24hr petrol stations back then. The following day I drove out of Whale Island to the petrol station towards Pompey, ran out of petrol & just coasted onto the petrol station fore court :y :y
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With a range of 16 miles I thought I could just about make it home last night
Got completed distracted as Chichester approached by a very tipsy Swmbo ::)
Now it`s 12 miles to empty with about 14 miles to go. I`m sure I can make it home
Turn the ECO button on & cruise along @ about 58 mph still on the A27 heading west.
I could divert to Havant Tesco, it`s gone 1 AM do they have a card only pump that works?
On a nice flat motorway with hardly any traffic, 2 miles to empty.
Nadgers range is Zero miles & she`s cruising nicely, so I reset the trip.
At zero plus 3 miles we`ve made it back home :y
Last time I do that, gets the old nerves jangling a bit
Just think of all that crap you have pulled into the fuel system from the bottom of the tank.
Also think about the pump that has been spinning away in nothing but fuel vapour.
Not worth the risk imho ;)
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But will it start... ;D
Given that you passed the BP at Emsworth services and Havant Tescos and presumably bypassed Farlington, I concur TGs sentiment and will laugh my bollax off if it doesn't start :-X
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Just think of all that crap you have pulled into the fuel system from the bottom of the tank......
the bottom of the tank is where the pump ALWAYS sucks from, so if there was crap in there, it would have pulled it through anyway. And as the tank is plastic, where's this crap come from in the first place? ::)
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Swarf and sediment...
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Swarf and sediment...
from where? ???
and as said, even if it was in the tank, the fuel pump sucks from the bottom of the tank regardless of how full it is
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The fuel itself... it's a percentage thing... if any given tank contains 1mm of crud at the bottom, when full, say 150 mm this is a small part of the tank volume, but if you only have 3mm of fuel, then potentially a third of your fuel is sediment.
Incidentally, if the pick up was ON the bottom of the tank, it would be either suffocated or underneath ::) actually picks up a couple of mm above the base of the tank, specifically to minimise the amount of crud being drawn into the pump.
Next time you're bored, pop the prefilter of your fuel pump... I'll wager that it isn't clean ;)
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Also the pump needs fuel around it to lubricate the impellor bering or it melts ;)
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The fuel itself... it's a percentage thing... if any given tank contains 1mm of crud at the bottom, when full, say 150 mm this is a small part of the tank volume, but if you only have 3mm of fuel, then potentially a third of your fuel is sediment.
Incidentally, if the pick up was ON the bottom of the tank, it would be either suffocated or underneath ::) actually picks up a couple of mm above the base of the tank, specifically to minimise the amount of crud being drawn into the pump.
Next time you're bored, pop the prefilter of your fuel pump... I'll wager that it isn't clean ;)
I've never found any of this fabled dirt/sludge/sediment in a tank out of a car in use, and rarely in ones that have been standing for years.
So I have a tenner that says the filter will be clear.
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Also the pump needs fuel around it to lubricate the impellor bering or it melts ;)
They react quite badly to being run dry, that's for sure
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Also the pump needs fuel around it to lubricate the impellor bering or it melts ;)
They react quite badly to being run dry, that's for sure
Yup
My car had been running on LPG for about 3 years with the minimum of petrol in the tank.
In tank petrol pump went last summer while working away in Stoke forcing me to force start the car on LPG which had my arse twitching because I couldn't remember if I had ticked the box for shutdown after xxx number of forced starts.
Anyway, I got the thing home and replaced the pump.
The tank had a nice film of brown shit all over the inside of the tank and the pump housing / nylon filter was covered in it.
Needless to say, they is at least a third of a tank of petrol in there from now on :y
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I'm always running out of fuel, and ignoring the diesels, never had any issues once I've done the walk of shame with a petrol can.
My MV6 was reading Range = 0 for about 2 weeks before I couldn't hack it any longer and went to Asda for their top quality fuel...
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If fuel range went into minus......i'd wager they'd be reading about -20 miles to go before actually running out of fuel....
No manufacturer is going to make a vehicle that the fuel comp, says 0 miles to go and it does run out..... :y
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If fuel range went into minus......i'd wager they'd be reading about -20 miles to go before actually running out of fuel....
No manufacturer is going to make a vehicle that the fuel comp, says 0 miles to go and it does run out..... :y
I've run out with a >0 range. Luck of draw based on actual sensor and any wiring imperfections.
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If fuel range went into minus......i'd wager they'd be reading about -20 miles to go before actually running out of fuel....
No manufacturer is going to make a vehicle that the fuel comp, says 0 miles to go and it does run out..... :y
I've run out with a >0 range. Luck of draw based on actual sensor and any wiring imperfections.
You must have been unlucky then.....ive driven several vehicles where the range was on 0.....a couple 5 -10 miles....and never run out :)
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If fuel range went into minus......i'd wager they'd be reading about -20 miles to go before actually running out of fuel....
No manufacturer is going to make a vehicle that the fuel comp, says 0 miles to go and it does run out..... :y
I've run out with a >0 range. Luck of draw based on actual sensor and any wiring imperfections.
You must have been unlucky then.....ive driven several vehicles where the range was on 0.....a couple 5 -10 miles....and never run out :)
Yeah. I think they are calibrated in such a way to give some leeway, but the components vary.
My MV6 has done 18 miles after reaching zero, and still only took 73l of petrol.
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I have had my estate cut out with 1/8th of a tank and no light showing, a fair slope though :-\
Restarted as soon as it was level...
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I have had my estate cut out with 1/8th of a tank and no light showing, a fair slope though :-\
Restarted as soon as it was level...
Does it make any difference which way the slope runs? (uphill/downhill/left/right)?
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I have had my estate cut out with 1/8th of a tank and no light showing, a fair slope though :-\
Restarted as soon as it was level...
I've never run mine out, but it will go several miles past an indicated zero range. But, if left overnight with a single figure range on the display it won't start in the morning. I try not to do that. Honest, I do try. Fortunately, it only takes about 10 minutes get a gallon from the nearest petrol station
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I have had my estate cut out with 1/8th of a tank and no light showing, a fair slope though :-\
Restarted as soon as it was level...
Does it make any difference which way the slope runs? (uphill/downhill/left/right)?
Slight left/slight up/slight down will do it, especially with the estates...
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Don't think I've ever been at or below 1/4 of a tank. Can't see any need to do that at all.
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Don't think I've ever been at or below 1/4 of a tank. Can't see any need to do that at all.
Cos there's still gallons left when the tank shows 1/4 ...... why not re-fill at 1/2 a tank? ::)
Depends where I am, if around & about at home where you're always within a short distance from any fuel station I'll leave it till the light comes on. If on holiday etc I'll probably fill up sooner ::) than I would at home
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Never run out of fuel in over 45 years of driving, why would you ? Doesn't make any sense to me just plain stupid.
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Never run out of fuel in over 45 years of driving, why would you ? Doesn't make any sense to me just plain stupid.
We were late setting off that night & Swmbo takes for ever (does my bum look big in this)
I had a quarter tank indicated, when we set off for her little sisters :-* birthday party
It was my turn to drive & I was gonna fuel up soon after we left the house, but swmbo was obeyed & it didn`t happen.
As stated it`s not the best idea to drive around wih low fuel, but we didn`t run out :y
For my sins I used to drive a 6 speed 2.0 TDCI Mondeo for work. with a work mate driving one stormy night I discovered we had driven 27 miles on a so called empty tank. We diverted from our route & topped up a further 2 miles later ::)
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I'm always running out of fuel, and ignoring the diesels, never had any issues once I've done the walk of shame with a petrol can.
My MV6 was reading Range = 0 for about 2 weeks before I couldn't hack it any longer and went to Asda for their top quality fuel...
I use Morrison's for fuel so that's probably were I get the brown crap from :-\
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Brown crap was, I imagine, fuel varnish .. which is what you get when you leave petrol in a container for a very long time with not much petrol and a lot of air. Basically it's the 'heavy' bits of petrol left after the 'light' parts evaporate off. You'll get it with any fuel, old or modern.
I wouldn't be surprised if a few tanks of good quality fuel would dissolve it, though, especially anything with an ethanol content.
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Brown crap was, I imagine, fuel varnish .. which is what you get when you leave petrol in a container for a very long time with not much petrol and a lot of air. Basically it's the 'heavy' bits of petrol left after the 'light' parts evaporate off. You'll get it with any fuel, old or modern.
I wouldn't be surprised if a few tanks of good quality fuel would dissolve it, though, especially anything with an ethanol content.
Only need petrol for a minute of so until the water warms up a bit so the LPG works ;) :y
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Don't think I've ever been at or below 1/4 of a tank. Can't see any need to do that at all.
Cos there's still gallons left when the tank shows 1/4 ...... why not re-fill at 1/2 a tank? ::)
Depends where I am, if around & about at home where you're always within a short distance from any fuel station I'll leave it till the light comes on. If on holiday etc I'll probably fill up sooner ::) than I would at home
Because that would be anal, and leaving it till the light comes on is stupid, so 1/4 seems about right to me.
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..... and leaving it till the light comes on is stupid, ...
there' still a couple o galons left even when the gauge is reading empty ;)
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Don't think I've ever been at or below 1/4 of a tank. Can't see any need to do that at all.
Cos there's still gallons left when the tank shows 1/4 ...... why not re-fill at 1/2 a tank? ::)
Depends where I am, if around & about at home where you're always within a short distance from any fuel station I'll leave it till the light comes on. If on holiday etc I'll probably fill up sooner ::) than I would at home
Because that would be anal, and leaving it till the light comes on is stupid, so 1/4 seems about right to me.
You have too much time in your hands ro keep visiting petrol stations :P
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Here`s the results of a bad batch of fuel from Tesco`s
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/Gav24v/RIMG0144Large.jpg)
This is what I drained from the filter
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/Gav24v/RIMG0142Large.jpg)
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Kin ell, looks like mucky dish water :o
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Obviously don't have Tesco's in Bury :D
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Kin ell, looks like mucky dish water :o
Aye, fuel pump was making some funny noises about four miles after filling up and it seemed to be low on power so I took the fuel filter out and dissected it, I was very surprised to find it like this though :o