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Title: audi a3
Post by: pauls on 29 January 2017, 15:13:51
I have being looking at a couple of audi a3s age range between 2004 to 2006 it seems that you can only get the quattro in 3.2l version. It has to be auto. Anybody know if you can get the quattro  in smaller engine also anything i should look out for. E.g gearbox suspension engine.
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 January 2017, 15:22:20
All three things on the watch out list :-\

Bmw 1 series?
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: b4ndit on 29 January 2017, 17:37:59
They have a problem with the head going porous audi will tell you its a cracked head had a couple in the garage with the same problem avoid :y
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: citroenguy on 29 January 2017, 20:23:18
They have a problem with the head going porous audi will tell you its a cracked head had a couple in the garage with the same problem avoid :y

Isn't that only the 2.0 TDI disesal ones?
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: 78bex on 30 January 2017, 00:18:27
Digging around on the net  & depending on the year it looks like :-

A3 2.0T & 1.9/2.0TDI  3d or 5d in  Sport or S /Line  :)
 

Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: citroenguy on 30 January 2017, 11:33:53
You can also get quattro/haldex with the 2.0 TFSI engine, but it's best avoided. Due to timingchain and carbon build up problems among other stuff. So I think that finding a well serviced 3.2 is the way to go.
Here is a couple of (more reliable) alternatives:
Volvo S40/V50 T5 AWD (230hp auto)
SAAB 9-3 2.0T XWD (bit newer though)
Alfa Romeo 159 3.2 AWD (no I'm not having a laugh :D it is based on the same platform as Veccy C/9-3 and the V6 is GM derived)
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: Viral_Jim on 30 January 2017, 13:25:34
3.2 can suffer stretchy timing chains. I was looking at one in a Passat estate.

The chain is on the back of the engine making it an engine and box out job, Time card is 20+ hrs of labour and VW/audi were asking in excess of £4k to get the job done.

Personally, I wouldn't touch one with someone else's  :o
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: citroenguy on 30 January 2017, 13:59:30
3.2 can suffer stretchy timing chains. I was looking at one in a Passat estate.

That problem is related to the Audi A6 3.2, not the 3.2 VR6 in the smaller A3/Golf/Leon/Octavia platform. As far as i know.
The chain is on the back of the engine making it an engine and box out job, Time card is 20+ hrs of labour and VW/audi were asking in excess of £4k to get the job done.

Personally, I wouldn't touch one with someone else's  :o
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: X30XE on 30 January 2017, 14:04:32
auf sprung durch dogshit.  They can't make a boot latch that lasts more than 3years, what chance to they have with an engine??  ::)

V6 engine in a tiny car... no thanks. Nightmare to work on.  :(
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: Viral_Jim on 30 January 2017, 15:31:30
3.2 can suffer stretchy timing chains. I was looking at one in a Passat estate.

That problem is related to the Audi A6 3.2, not the 3.2 VR6 in the smaller A3/Golf/Leon/Octavia platform. As far as i know.
The chain is on the back of the engine making it an engine and box out job, Time card is 20+ hrs of labour and VW/audi were asking in excess of £4k to get the job done.

Personally, I wouldn't touch one with someone else's  :o

The OP in this thread would beg to differ.  :y
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=86&t=846691&i=0 (http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=86&t=846691&i=0)
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: henryd on 30 January 2017, 16:08:25
auf sprung durch dogshit.  They can't make a boot latch that lasts more than 3years, what chance to they have with an engine??  ::)

V6 engine in a tiny car... no thanks. Nightmare to work on.  :(

I've got a 17 year old A3 parked outside,done 210k miles and everything on it still works,its not even had a clutch replaced yet :y
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 30 January 2017, 16:55:08
auf sprung durch dogshit.  They can't make a boot latch that lasts more than 3years, what chance to they have with an engine??  ::)

V6 engine in a tiny car... no thanks. Nightmare to work on.  :(

I've got a 17 year old A3 parked outside,done 210k miles and everything on it still works,its not even had a clutch replaced yet :y

But that probably has the 1.9 PD or the 1.6 slug petrol in it  :y
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 January 2017, 16:58:36
I saw a photo of that engine's cam chain setup. It was enough to know I never wanted to have one in my life. I have no idea what problem the Germans thought they were solving when they created that. ;D
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 30 January 2017, 17:00:43
I saw a photo of that engine's cam chain setup. It was enough to know I never wanted to have one in my life. I have no idea what problem the Germans thought they were solving when they created that. ;D

Possibly the same team that designed the chain setup on the 2.0 diesel BMW.....
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: Viral_Jim on 30 January 2017, 17:07:13
Their stated reason* is that the chain is a non-serviced item so they put it at the back to give more space at the front to work on the engine.






* Sounds like so much bull$h!t to me
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: STEMO on 30 January 2017, 17:23:15
My astra has a chain. I know this because I can hear it on startup.  ;D
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: henryd on 30 January 2017, 17:23:32
auf sprung durch dogshit.  They can't make a boot latch that lasts more than 3years, what chance to they have with an engine??  ::)

V6 engine in a tiny car... no thanks. Nightmare to work on.  :(

I've got a 17 year old A3 parked outside,done 210k miles and everything on it still works,its not even had a clutch replaced yet :y

But that probably has the 1.9 PD or the 1.6 slug petrol in it  :y

Old AGR tdi  lump that's never been touched,same boot lock as all the rest though  ::)
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 January 2017, 19:45:54
Their stated reason* is that the chain is a non-serviced item so they put it at the back to give more space at the front to work on the engine.






* Sounds like so much bull$h!t to me
"Style that one out" as Phil Spencer says... :D
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: X30XE on 30 January 2017, 22:03:54
auf sprung durch dogshit.  They can't make a boot latch that lasts more than 3years, what chance to they have with an engine??  ::)

V6 engine in a tiny car... no thanks. Nightmare to work on.  :(

I've got a 17 year old A3 parked outside,done 210k miles and everything on it still works,its not even had a clutch replaced yet :y

But that probably has the 1.9 PD or the 1.6 slug petrol in it  :y

Old AGR tdi  lump that's never been touched,same boot lock as all the rest though  ::)

Exhibit A : Audi S6 Timing chain failure @ 31 DAYS OLD !

(http://i.imgur.com/WS34AxG.jpg)

I could add the receipt for my next door neighbours A5 boot latch but yeah... moot point in the greater scheme of VAG corrupt nazi shittiness.  ;)
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 January 2017, 22:45:15
When you look at the simplicity of the Omega's cam belt (which does the same thing) how can anyone design a carbuncle like that and be proud of it. ::)
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 January 2017, 22:51:10
Durchfall von Arsche :D
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: X30XE on 30 January 2017, 22:54:08
When you look at the simplicity of the Omega's cam belt (which does the same thing) how can anyone design a carbuncle like that and be proud of it. ::)

Bad example... 40k is a truly pathetic service interval... but yeah... why on earth would you use 20 times as much material thus risking a premature failure before 40k  ;D
Title: Re: audi a3
Post by: Kevin Wood on 31 January 2017, 09:20:39
When you look at the simplicity of the Omega's cam belt (which does the same thing) how can anyone design a carbuncle like that and be proud of it. ::)

Bad example... 40k is a truly pathetic service interval... but yeah... why on earth would you use 20 times as much material thus risking a premature failure before 40k  ;D
Indeed. The service interval didn't work out great for the GM engine in the end, but it is also nearly a 30 year old design. I know what I'd rather have.

EDIT: 40K miles is a tad better than 31 days, too. ::)