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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: pauls on 16 February 2017, 22:28:09
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Iam moving to a 1980 built house and i had the survey report back today. It stated that the house may have asbestos in the artexed ceilings etc. Is they anyway i can find out before i start pulling ceilings down.
I have had a look on google but it only states to pay a company to come in and test it.
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I'd get a professional in to inspect and give a full report, then use that to haggle the sale price. :y
As you'd want to get it removed professionally, which will cost. You want that deducted from sale price :)
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Sounds like a cop out to me... Bit like saying that brake pads on a brand new car might contain asbestos :-\
Without actually getting someone in, I'm not sure how else you could check :-\
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Can you live with the Artexing? If so - leave it! It's my understanding that Asbestos is only hazardous in airborne powder form; embedded in Artex (plaster?) it is no threat to you. Paranoia abounds where Asbestos is concerned, encouraged by vested interests, like so many other things.
Ron.
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Can you live with the Artexing? If so - leave it! It's my understanding that Asbestos is only hazardous in airborne powder form; embedded in Artex (plaster?) it is no threat to you. Paranoia abounds where Asbestos is concerned, encouraged by vested interests, like so many other things.
Ron.
My workshop is made totally of asbestos but so long as its not drilled,filed,sanded or cut then its fine(I hope) :y
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Even if you do drill it, etc., as long as you have a mask and eye protection - and adequate ventilation - still no problem. As I said earlier, paranoia abounds.....
Ron.
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Can you live with the Artexing? If so - leave it! It's my understanding that Asbestos is only hazardous in airborne powder form; embedded in Artex (plaster?) it is no threat to you. Paranoia abounds where Asbestos is concerned, encouraged by vested interests, like so many other things.
Ron.
Not to worried about the ceilings but i will need to do some work on the walls etc. Drilling , knocking down, sanding
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So if the walls ain,t Artexed you,re fine :y
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Even if you do drill it, etc., as long as you have a mask and eye protection - and adequate ventilation - still no problem. As I said earlier, paranoia abounds.....
Ron.
With good reason...
Spending five days a week wiring submarines killed my Grandfather :'(
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Can you live with the Artexing? If so - leave it! It's my understanding that Asbestos is only hazardous in airborne powder form; embedded in Artex (plaster?) it is no threat to you. Paranoia abounds where Asbestos is concerned, encouraged by vested interests, like so many other things.
Ron.
Not to worried about the ceilings but i will need to do some work on the walls etc. Drilling , knocking down, sanding
Then get an expert in, it's not worth pi$$ing about spending a huge sum on a house only for it to be a potentially lethal.
Profession survey, know what you are dealing with and such costs. Use it to haggle price down, or walk away in my view. :)
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Unfortunately, Paul...asbestos was use in Artex up until about 2000. :(
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Every time we parked along side, the dockyard workers came on-board, smashed ***k out of the asbestos pipe lagging & filled both the engine and boiler room with dust. It's a bit late for people like me.
Work has spent £millions on asbestos containment over the past few years.
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Yer my gaf was built in the nineties & I got the same artex.
They look at the build date of the house & assume it`s there. No biggy
UK works along the lines, "the rest of the world says it`s dangerous & we don`t" :P
We saw the same reaction to Lead in petrol & paint,
I think parts of europe banned lead in paint in the fifties, It took until the seventies for the UK to catch up.
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DG, I am not trying to belittle the dangers from Asbestos and obviously I have sympathy for your grandfather - and your loss - but there is a world of difference between occupational long term exposure and - as in this case - small amounts of Asbestos bound up in plaster. If the OP is desperate to remove the Artex, dousing thoroughly with water and removing it carefully, wearing protective gear. Basically, that is all the expensive professionals do.
Ron.
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With that amount of worry. Your going to die within 24 hrs of coming thro the door.
Find something else to worry about that is important.!
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With that amount of worry. Your going to die within 24 hrs of coming thro the door.
Find something else to worry about that is important.!
Frozen beer and mayonnaise for example...
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Only chrysotile was used in artex. Not going to get involved too much in this thread because as soon as "Asbestos" is mentioned , a lot of people sh*t there pants. But risk from asbestos in artex is very minimal even less if it is left alone & not scraped, drilled, sawn or sanded. Doubtless others will argue.
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Only chrysotile was used in artex. Not going to get involved too much in this thread because as soon as "Asbestos" is mentioned , a lot of people sh*t there pants. But risk from asbestos in artex is very minimal even less if it is left alone & not scraped, drilled, sawn or sanded. Doubtless others will argue.
Correct and only a small percentage (1.8 to 3.8%) of Chrysotile was added. 2006 HSE report below say risk is low and you don't need a licensed contractor to remove it.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/aboutus/meetings/iacs/acts/watch/010206/paper1.pdf (http://www.hse.gov.uk/aboutus/meetings/iacs/acts/watch/010206/paper1.pdf)
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You can get proper artex remover and it looks very safe and easy to use
http://www.ecosolutions.co.uk/homestrip-xtex/
Unfortunately for anyone in building trade or ship building they were all told asbestos was totally safe so no one gave a crap, I've heard stories of snow ball fights with lagging and one guy eating it to prove it's safe! Sadly many more people are yet to die from it and nothing can be done about it.
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Iam moving to a 1980 built house and i had the survey report back today. It stated that the house may have asbestos in the artexed ceilings etc. Is they anyway i can find out before i start pulling ceilings down.
I have had a look on google but it only states to pay a company to come in and test it.
Artex of that period will have a small amount of asbestos in it, but so will any other house of the same period.
Look at the textured coatings section here:
http://www.hse.gov.uk/asbestos/essentials/index.htm
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Are you dead yet. ;D
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You can get proper artex remover and it looks very safe and easy to use
http://www.ecosolutions.co.uk/homestrip-xtex/
Unfortunately for anyone in building trade or ship building they were all told asbestos was totally safe so no one gave a crap, I've heard stories of snow ball fights with lagging and one guy eating it to prove it's safe! Sadly many more people are yet to die from it and nothing can be done about it.
Snow ball fights was exactly what my Grandad reported from the dockyard - he was fine, some of his friends were not. Very different material to what's in Artex though.
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As has been said, whilst Asbestos is not something to be taken lightly (and Mesothelioma did for a friend of mine in about 3 months flat) this sounds like the normal type of @rse-covering clause you will find in any surveyor's report from a house of that era. Get some professional advice if you feel inclined, but we've all been living in houses with that type of artex for decades. It's just worth bearing in mind that, if you decide you don't want it any more, it's better to skim or plasterboard over it than to try to remove it.
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As has been said, whilst Asbestos is not something to be taken lightly (and Mesothelioma did for a friend of mine in about 3 months flat) this sounds like the normal type of @rse-covering clause you will find in any surveyor's report from a house of that era. Get some professional advice if you feel inclined, but we've all been living in houses with that type of artex for decades. It's just worth bearing in mind that, if you decide you don't want it any more, it's better to skim or plasterboard over it than to try to remove it.
Yeah. Quick coat of PVA adhesive and skim it. There are bound to be some tiny stalactites that need knocking off, but I wouldn't bother suiting up for that. ;D
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As has been said, whilst Asbestos is not something to be taken lightly (and Mesothelioma did for a friend of mine in about 3 months flat) this sounds like the normal type of @rse-covering clause you will find in any surveyor's report from a house of that era. Get some professional advice if you feel inclined, but we've all been living in houses with that type of artex for decades. It's just worth bearing in mind that, if you decide you don't want it any more, it's better to skim or plasterboard over it than to try to remove it.
Exactly . . . would not let it put me off buying . As for earlier advice of reducing the price of the property for this issue . . .unlikely . . . but worth a try I suppose ;)
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Every house in most parts of the country get the Radon Gas arse covering survey stamp as well.
Worry not. Most forms of asbestos aren't that bad anyway
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Are you dead yet. ;D
Hang on a minute while I check...
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lots of testing available; type artex asbestos testing into google eg £20 for a sample test http://artisansurveyors.co.uk/asbestos-sample-analysis/
lots of dodgy looking companies and claims lawyers too...
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Are you dead yet. ;D
Hang on a minute while I check...
Obviously not as bad, as the op seems to think.
Don't panic.
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Imports of blue and brown were banned in the mid 80s, white around 99
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Just going through this now for an insurance claim. Obviously they are going the whole hog with full HEPA suits but the recommended protection is paper masks ::)
IMHO, don't worry about it and just bear in mind that you need to. R careful drilling or sanding it :y
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I pulled an artexed ceiling down recently and just masked up, the tip was happy to take it so it can't be that bad. I also took up some square vinyl looking tiles that must have dated from the 50's and took them to the tip, the guy spotted me lashing them in the skip and near had a heart attack, he actually ran away at speed citing them as one of the most dangerous asbestos products in existence?? needless to say I didn't pick then back out of the skip! I'm not too worried as the wife pulled them all off the floor rather than me ;D