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Title: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Webby the Bear on 13 March 2017, 07:12:19
Morning guys. So I want a brand new set of head lamps for the omega but am struggling to find anything anywhere (always a concern when eBay can't find what u want lol). All the factors I've called don't have a listing and as said can't find them on eBay.

Where can I source these?

Ps I've tried everything on my existing ones with no joy. So fancy some new ones 👍
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 13 March 2017, 08:14:18
Go to a meet and nick someone elses.  :y  ;D
Sorry bear, couldn't help it. Have you tried a wanted ad ? Otherwise, I'm sure someone will post a link to a supplier sometime today.
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: steve6367 on 13 March 2017, 08:25:42
Morning guys. So I want a brand new set of head lamps for the omega but am struggling to find anything anywhere (always a concern when eBay can't find what u want lol). All the factors I've called don't have a listing and as said can't find them on eBay.

Where can I source these?

Ps I've tried everything on my existing ones with no joy. So fancy some new ones 👍

GM will supply them if you are feeling affluent or they do come up on ebay periodically. Got a new drivers side Hella on mine, waiting for a passenger to come up!
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Pmacca2000 on 13 March 2017, 08:30:43
From reading other posts on here I understand Vauxhall dealers may have a few left at about £250 a side, could you get yours referebished ?
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2017, 10:12:41
Depo do them...

As do ATP... Look harder :D
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Webby the Bear on 13 March 2017, 12:36:36
Cheers boyos. Was v pleased with atp droplink/ bone set. So will try there! Cheers guys
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Webby the Bear on 13 March 2017, 12:54:17
Here's what I think I need. Are these the ones.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2X-XENON-HEADLAMP-FRONT-D2S-H7-FRONT-LEFT-RIGHT-OPEL-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-B-CARAVAN-/381713465333?hash=item58dfe53ff5
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: STEMO on 13 March 2017, 12:59:10
#headlight only suitable for left hand drive#
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2017, 13:08:33
They're adjustable for other traffic... guessing Webby needs lenses, in which case they should be swappable :y
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: STEMO on 13 March 2017, 13:10:43
I see.  :y
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Webby the Bear on 13 March 2017, 13:14:20
Sorry for my blatant stupidity. But. What would be different on lhd and rhd versions  :-\
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: TheBoy on 13 March 2017, 13:15:56
They're adjustable for other traffic...
Cant speak for Depo or other pattern, but genuine are **NOT** adjustable between LHD and RHD, and an incorrect one should fail an MOT.

Really cant see pattern being any different, hence the LHD warning.
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2017, 15:36:50
They're adjustable for other traffic...
Cant speak for Depo or other pattern, but genuine are **NOT** adjustable between LHD and RHD, and an incorrect one should fail an MOT.

Really cant see pattern being any different, hence the LHD warning.
Pesh... Page 121 of the owners manual  ::)
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: STEMO on 13 March 2017, 15:39:54
Fight!
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2017, 15:43:31
Fight!
Clearly applies to both left and right hand drive cars...
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Nick W on 13 March 2017, 16:38:52
Fight!
Clearly applies to both left and right hand drive cars...


The adjusting lever doesn't turn a RWD lamp into a LHD or vice versa; it just dips a large proportion of the light out of the sightline of oncoming traffic. Guess who has been belting along French country roads in the dark, wondering just why the lights are suddenly so crap, for the last week? 8)


The differences will be in both the reflector and lens, although I expect they will be subtle.


Personally, I would have to be desperate to butcher a new lamp just for a better lens, when 10minutes work makes a massive improvement to even the worst one.
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Webby the Bear on 13 March 2017, 18:24:46
So we are saying I can't just buy n fit these?
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Nick W on 13 March 2017, 18:52:24
So we are saying I can't just buy n fit these?


Of course you can.
They'll look bright and shiny, and will work as well as new ones.
But they'll be LHD new ones, so might not be what you want.
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: TheBoy on 13 March 2017, 19:09:51
They're adjustable for other traffic...
Cant speak for Depo or other pattern, but genuine are **NOT** adjustable between LHD and RHD, and an incorrect one should fail an MOT.

Really cant see pattern being any different, hence the LHD warning.
Pesh... Page 121 of the owners manual  ::)
Nope, that's 'dangle berries'.

What the lever does is convert from sided to a neutral setting with no side kick-up. The Neutral setting should fail a UK MOT on beam pattern.

That's why they do LHD and RHD headlights - if they could get away with it otherwise, they would ;)
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: STEMO on 13 March 2017, 19:36:50
Strategetically place some black tape over the lens...seen loads like that...be ok.....honest. :)
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2017, 19:39:01
Working in a garage probably helps  ::)
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: STEMO on 13 March 2017, 19:44:47
Working in a garage probably helps  ::)
Esp if your mate is the tester. ;D
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2017, 19:47:31
Working in a garage probably helps  ::)
Esp if you is the tester. ;D
Now I didn't say that....
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Webby the Bear on 13 March 2017, 19:51:59
So this is getting confusing.

Is it cos the kick patter will be the opposite side that it should be?
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: TheBoy on 13 March 2017, 19:54:36
So this is getting confusing.

Is it cos the kick patter will be the opposite side that it should be?
Yup.  The "abroad" setting on the lever just masks out the kick via a shutter in the unit.
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2017, 19:55:22
Fundamentally yes... lights dip away from the steering wheel side, ie into the nearside kerb :y

No reason why new lenses from those brand new, shiny lhd lamps cannot be fitted to your units though... still works out a quarter the price of GM ones ;)
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Webby the Bear on 13 March 2017, 19:55:56
So this is getting confusing.

Is it cos the kick patter will be the opposite side that it should be?
Yup.  The "abroad" setting on the lever just masks out the kick via a shutter in the unit.

Got ya  :y

Ok, so anywhere that does English ones  ;D
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Webby the Bear on 13 March 2017, 19:56:41
Fundamentally yes... lights dip away from the steering wheel side, ie into the nearside kerb :y

No reason why new lenses from those brand new, shiny lhd lamps cannot be fitted to your units though... still works out a quarter the price of GM ones ;)

This would involve the oven, right?
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: TheBoy on 13 March 2017, 19:56:53
Whats wrong with yours?
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: TheBoy on 13 March 2017, 19:57:24
And a CD would be halogen, not HID.
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Webby the Bear on 13 March 2017, 19:59:13
So there's crud on the outside which the 3m kit surprisingly didn't touch. And what appears to be crud on the inside  :'(
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: TheBoy on 13 March 2017, 20:02:09
So there's crud on the outside which the 3m kit surprisingly didn't touch. And what appears to be crud on the inside  :'(
And you can't get a decent set from any breakers?

If it was just crud on outside, I'd suggest a harsher wet and dry, then the 3m kit.  You saw what the 3M kit achieved on mine in about 30mins per side...
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2017, 20:05:50
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1X-HEADLAMP-H7-H1-LEFT-OPEL-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-B-CARAVAN-ESTATE-94-03-2-0-3-2-/381998115948?hash=item58f0dcac6c:g:uKAAAOSw32lYw47Q

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1X-HEADLAMP-H7-H1-RIGHT-OPEL-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-B-CARAVAN-ESTATE-94-03-2-0-3-2/371889504063?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3Dcaae3d4944864945ae815615b0a3b40b%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D381998115948
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: STEMO on 13 March 2017, 20:09:28
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1X-HEADLAMP-H7-H1-LEFT-OPEL-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-B-CARAVAN-ESTATE-94-03-2-0-3-2-/381998115948?hash=item58f0dcac6c:g:uKAAAOSw32lYw47Q

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1X-HEADLAMP-H7-H1-RIGHT-OPEL-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-B-CARAVAN-ESTATE-94-03-2-0-3-2/371889504063?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20140122125356%26meid%3Dcaae3d4944864945ae815615b0a3b40b%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D381998115948
#only suitable for lhd vehicles#
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2017, 20:11:33
No shit ;D The Bear wants lenses ::)
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: STEMO on 13 March 2017, 20:17:59
No shit ;D The Bear wants lenses ::)
Then the first ones would do...so eff off  ;D
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 March 2017, 20:29:37
No shit ;D The Bear wants lenses ::)
Then the first ones would do...so eff off  ;D
They won't because the lenses are different xenon vs halogen ::)

Haven't you finished those chocolates yet...
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: STEMO on 13 March 2017, 20:47:23
No shit ;D The Bear wants lenses ::)
Then the first ones would do...so eff off  ;D
They won't because the lenses are different xenon vs halogen ::)

Haven't you finished those chocolates yet...
Xenons, halogens......right, let you off then.  :-*

I'll never finish the chocs cause they just keep coming.
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Nick W on 13 March 2017, 21:01:24
So there's crud on the outside which the 3m kit surprisingly didn't touch. And what appears to be crud on the inside  :'(
And you can't get a decent set from any breakers?

If it was just crud on outside, I'd suggest a harsher wet and dry, then the 3m kit.  You saw what the 3M kit achieved on mine in about 30mins per side...


30 minutes per side???? That's enough time to do both, clean up, open a beer and brag about it on here. Assuming that you do it the dark, after getting home from work. 1000 then 1200 grit wet&dry, G3(other coarse rubbing compounds are available) then your favourite polish.
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: TheBoy on 14 March 2017, 07:51:43
So there's crud on the outside which the 3m kit surprisingly didn't touch. And what appears to be crud on the inside  :'(
And you can't get a decent set from any breakers?

If it was just crud on outside, I'd suggest a harsher wet and dry, then the 3m kit.  You saw what the 3M kit achieved on mine in about 30mins per side...


30 minutes per side???? That's enough time to do both, clean up, open a beer and brag about it on here. Assuming that you do it the dark, after getting home from work. 1000 then 1200 grit wet&dry, G3(other coarse rubbing compounds are available) then your favourite polish.
Yup, and manual would have taken so much longer (been there, done that).  Admittedly, they weren't in a pretty state before starting...
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Webby the Bear on 14 March 2017, 13:30:32
So my options for brand new is...

Fit a set of atp and swap them over at mot time. Or
Buy atp and shove mine in the oven to just swap over lenses. Or
Buy genuine. Or
Source a breaker but no guarantee on quality.
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 March 2017, 13:45:30
Yup ;)
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 14 March 2017, 14:36:58
Morning guys. So I want a brand new set of head lamps for the omega but am struggling to find anything anywhere (always a concern when eBay can't find what u want lol). All the factors I've called don't have a listing and as said can't find them on eBay.

Where can I source these?

Ps I've tried everything on my existing ones with no joy. So fancy some new ones 👍

Coming in late on this thread, all I would add is that I, last week, bought two for my Omega brand new from my Vauxhall main dealer via Luton.  Parts No's 009193420 , 009193419.  At trade they cost me £485.43 all in.  Full retail is £542.

According to my parts department friend I had the last drivers side headlamp at Luton, with just 5 n/s ones left. :y
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: steve6367 on 14 March 2017, 15:32:59
So my options for brand new is...

Fit a set of atp and swap them over at mot time. Or
Buy atp and shove mine in the oven to just swap over lenses. Or
Buy genuine. Or
Source a breaker but no guarantee on quality.

Thats not really an option as you will blind everyone in-between MOT's!
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: STEMO on 14 March 2017, 15:52:11
Morning guys. So I want a brand new set of head lamps for the omega but am struggling to find anything anywhere (always a concern when eBay can't find what u want lol). All the factors I've called don't have a listing and as said can't find them on eBay.

Where can I source these?

Ps I've tried everything on my existing ones with no joy. So fancy some new ones 👍

Coming in late on this thread, all I would add is that I, last week, bought two for my Omega brand new from my Vauxhall main dealer via Luton.  Parts No's 009193420 , 009193419.  At trade they cost me £485.43 all in.  Full retail is £542.

According to my parts department friend I had the last drivers side headlamp at Luton, with just 5 n/s ones left. :y
That's more than his car's worth  ;D
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 14 March 2017, 16:18:54
Morning guys. So I want a brand new set of head lamps for the omega but am struggling to find anything anywhere (always a concern when eBay can't find what u want lol). All the factors I've called don't have a listing and as said can't find them on eBay.

Where can I source these?

Ps I've tried everything on my existing ones with no joy. So fancy some new ones 👍

Coming in late on this thread, all I would add is that I, last week, bought two for my Omega brand new from my Vauxhall main dealer via Luton.  Parts No's 009193420 , 009193419.  At trade they cost me £485.43 all in.  Full retail is £542.

According to my parts department friend I had the last drivers side headlamp at Luton, with just 5 n/s ones left. :y
That's more than his car's worth  ;D

Probably! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Facelift mig headlamps
Post by: Webby the Bear on 14 March 2017, 18:06:36
So my options for brand new is...

Fit a set of atp and swap them over at mot time. Or
Buy atp and shove mine in the oven to just swap over lenses. Or
Buy genuine. Or
Source a breaker but no guarantee on quality.

Thats not really an option as you will blind everyone in-between MOT's!

Like every beemer, merc and Audi driver out there then.

In seriousness I wouldn't fit them if that was the case.