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Title: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Pmacca2000 on 22 March 2017, 11:12:11
A couple of days ago I started my car as useual and it ran as smoothly as normal.
As I got to work she began to run very lumpy and was struggling for power, luckily Wilbury have squeezed me in  and managed to diagnose the problem.
The coil pack is all cracked with casing missing on one side and was failing to fire 1 and 6.
I am supprised that it broke down so fast but thankfully should be on the road by tonight
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 March 2017, 11:18:29
And they didn't notice this when they were rebuilding it... ::)
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 March 2017, 11:49:12
A couple of days ago I started my car as useual and it ran as smoothly as normal.
As I got to work she began to run very lumpy and was struggling for power, luckily Wilbury have squeezed me in  and managed to diagnose the problem.
The coil pack is all cracked with casing missing on one side and was failing to fire 1 and 6.
I am supprised that it broke down so fast but thankfully should be on the road by tonight

Isn't that both coil packs?

135  and 246.
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Bojan on 22 March 2017, 11:50:40


Isn't that both coil packs?

135  and 246.

It's probably 2.5 or 3.0.
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Pmacca2000 on 22 March 2017, 12:51:48
There's only one coil pack and it was tested when the oil cooler failed but all was ok.
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 22 March 2017, 13:01:41
I bet it wasn't tested......

Anyway, I would be very surprised if it was 1 and 6.............1 and 4, 2 and 5 or 3 and 6 yes.......but its pretty much impossible for 1 and 6 to go down as a pair on a 2.5/3.0
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 March 2017, 13:07:56
Hope that garage is going somewhere nice with all your money ::)
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: STEMO on 22 March 2017, 13:43:45
Hope that garage is going somewhere nice with all your money ::)
The Wilbury's are travelling?
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 22 March 2017, 13:51:10
I bet it wasn't tested......

Anyway, I would be very surprised if it was 1 and 6.............1 and 4, 2 and 5 or 3 and 6 yes.......but its pretty much impossible for 1 and 6 to go down as a pair on a 2.5/3.0

I say this because if 1 and 6 are miss firing then its more likely to be leads.

When the coil packs go they usually give two misfires (as there are 3 coils).
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Pmacca2000 on 22 March 2017, 14:03:47
I've seen the diagnostic this morning and it confirmed the coil pack was failing, new leads are being fitted so hopefully she'll prove reliable
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 March 2017, 14:09:04
Cure the cause rather than the symptoms  ::)
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: cam.in.head on 22 March 2017, 14:11:27
The dreaded water feature built in ! And plug 6 learning to swim !.
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 March 2017, 14:20:13
Ripping the foam out is a damn sight quicker, easier and cheaper than changing to coil pack(s) every time it rains ;D
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: cam.in.head on 22 March 2017, 14:25:29
On question to ask mr gollum .sorry to go off topic a bit!. When changing 2.5 coil is it worth non bosch such as intermotor etc or has anyone had trouble and only reccomend bosch?
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 March 2017, 14:37:52
Genuine last longer/seem more waterproof than cheapy ones, but only ever had later dbw cars, 80% V6s with foamectomy so can't comment on the earlier cars part reliability ;)

Basically it's your money, but buy cheap and treat it as a service item, or buy genuine and forget about it.
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Pmacca2000 on 22 March 2017, 14:40:11
Bosch lasted 17 years in mine
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 22 March 2017, 14:41:03
I rest my case.
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: cam.in.head on 22 March 2017, 14:43:21
Nuff said. Cheers
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Pmacca2000 on 26 March 2017, 06:52:43
the new coil pack has transformed my omega's performance, I thought she was quiet before but she's almost silent now and with better mpg😊
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: X30XE on 26 March 2017, 21:44:02
Should have taken it here for a "service"  ::)

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Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Andy H on 26 March 2017, 22:25:13
Ripping the foam out is a damn sight quicker, easier and cheaper than changing to coil pack(s) every time it rains ;D
I have driven 200,000 miles in the past 15 years in my first two Omegas and not had a problem with wet scuttle foam.

When I got the Project MV6 recently  the scuttle foam was absolutely sopping wet - James had already replaced the coil packs a few weeks before because of water damage so I was more than a little concerned by this. On closer inspection I realised that the trim at the base of the screen was coming away at one end so I pulled both parts of it right off and gave them a good scrub.

I think water had been tracking under the trim and hence running along the underside of the scuttle. After refitting the trims to the screen the foam was dry after 24 hours. On balance I don't think the foam is the problem but is simply an indicator of how leaky your screen trim is.........

Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 March 2017, 06:43:43
Perhaps, but the weather has been much drier of late and ultimately,  no foam=no problem ;)
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: TheBoy on 27 March 2017, 19:14:22
Ripping the foam out is a damn sight quicker, easier and cheaper than changing to coil pack(s) every time it rains ;D
I have driven 200,000 miles in the past 15 years in my first two Omegas and not had a problem with wet scuttle foam.

When I got the Project MV6 recently  the scuttle foam was absolutely sopping wet - James had already replaced the coil packs a few weeks before because of water damage so I was more than a little concerned by this. On closer inspection I realised that the trim at the base of the screen was coming away at one end so I pulled both parts of it right off and gave them a good scrub.

I think water had been tracking under the trim and hence running along the underside of the scuttle. After refitting the trims to the screen the foam was dry after 24 hours. On balance I don't think the foam is the problem but is simply an indicator of how leaky your screen trim is.........
I agree, only time I've had wet foam is when the strip came loose.

I would always prefer to fix the fault that rip off the foam, which is there for a reason.
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 March 2017, 19:20:23
Don't tell me... sound insulation ::)

Removing it makes not one iota of difference to cabin noise ;)
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: TheBoy on 27 March 2017, 19:26:26
Don't tell me... sound insulation ::)

Removing it makes not one iota of difference to cabin noise ;)
"Oh yes it does"

;D
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: STEMO on 27 March 2017, 19:32:09
You're an argumentative bastid, Jaime.  ;D
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Viral_Jim on 27 March 2017, 19:44:54

The Wilbury's are travelling?

This definitely deserved more recognition than it got!  :y

Particularly as the thread reaches The End of the Line.
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: STEMO on 27 March 2017, 19:59:32

The Wilbury's are travelling?

This definitely deserved more recognition than it got!  :y

Particularly as the thread reaches The End of the Line.
Thank you, Jimmy, but I'm not gonna start that one. If you look back far enough, we already did it with ABBA, and a few others. ;D
Title: Re: Coil pack breakdown
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 March 2017, 20:14:04
My, my. Here we go again... :D