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Title: WHY?
Post by: Bigron on 26 March 2017, 10:36:47
Why, oh why do we indulge in this bi-annual madness of changing our clocks? It's a phenominal waste of time, money and effort on the part of those who do not have self-setting radio code controlled clocks, and for no useful purpose. We have been doing this for just over 100 years now; if it's a good thing (supposedly) how the hell did we m,anage all those millennia before we adopted this procedure? The day is still 24 hours long, however you carve it.

Ron.
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: STEMO on 26 March 2017, 10:56:17
Madness? I think I may have just experienced that. My lad has one of these Pure iPad docks/radio things. I shouted up and asked him if he'd managed to work out how to change the time. He said no, so dad to the rescue. I went up and it said 9:40, so I got the little remote, went through the settings and changed it to 10:40....done. Put it back to standby.....9:40. Hmmmm....went through it all again..9:40 to 10:40... standby. 9:40.
Right....powered off and leave it a while. Set to 10:43 by now, standby, 9:43. F*** it.
Then it dawned on us. It was 9:43, not 10:43 and it was receiving an rds signal and setting itself.
Dooooooooh!  ;D
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: zirk on 26 March 2017, 11:04:21
Its for the Northern England and Scotland folk, so there kids can walk to school in the mornings in daylight.

Don't have this problem down South as they all go to school in 4x4's.  ::)
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Ever Ready on 26 March 2017, 11:21:08
You have to think of the poor child living in the Utter Hebridies that would have to walk from the croft to school ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Bigron on 26 March 2017, 11:48:31
So, for those few lost souls in Outer Wherever, we all have to suffer great inconvenience? 'dangle berries' to them!

Ron.
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 26 March 2017, 11:59:00
I think it's great that when the weather is supposed to get warmer and nicer, we suddenly get an extra hour of daylight in the evenings to enjoy it!  :y

Or maybe not......  ;D
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Ever Ready on 26 March 2017, 11:59:28
Now now Bigron, that's a bit cruel, they may be eaten by a feral haggis or even Nessie ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: redelitev6 on 26 March 2017, 12:17:36
 ::) Nightmare ! must have taken me all of 5 minutes to change the clocks/watch/microwave  , just have to gear myself up to do it all again in the autumn !
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Mister Rog on 26 March 2017, 12:27:36
Madness? I think I may have just experienced that. My lad has one of these Pure iPad docks/radio things. I shouted up and asked him if he'd managed to work out how to change the time. He said no, so dad to the rescue. I went up and it said 9:40, so I got the little remote, went through the settings and changed it to 10:40....done. Put it back to standby.....9:40. Hmmmm....went through it all again..9:40 to 10:40... standby. 9:40.
Right....powered off and leave it a while. Set to 10:43 by now, standby, 9:43. F*** it.
Then it dawned on us. It was 9:43, not 10:43 and it was receiving an rds signal and setting itself.
Dooooooooh!  ;D


9:43  ?


Now let me think . . . . Ah yes. I was still in bed . . . . . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz     :y

Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: BazaJT on 26 March 2017, 12:46:22
Wasn't it originally done for the farmers during some war or other?
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: TD on 26 March 2017, 12:48:21
::) Nightmare ! must have taken me all of 5 minutes to change the clocks/watch/microwave  , just have to gear myself up to do it all again in the autumn !

Ermmm....It took me all of 0 secs to change mine....Clock in kitchen/Living room/Alarm clock/Weather station and even CH controller changed times themselves  :y :)

I expect the Humax box has changed itself too.....I shall see when I turn the tv on.... :-\

The mondeo will probably change itself too if I retune to a national radio station....don't think the local radio station I listen to transmits time signals  :-\
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Bigron on 26 March 2017, 12:54:42
No, Benjamin Franklin had this brainstorm over 100 years ago, and we were daft enough to copy some time later.
Farmers have farmed perfectly adequately for millennia before this pointless interference held sway.
Apparently, the royal household has thousands of clocks to adjust twice per year and it takes lots of staff over 50 hours to do so! Not that I'm all that worried about them, but in offices, workshops etc., all over the country time is wasted re-setting clocks - and time is money.
I've got to go out in the cold now and re-set my sundial.....

Ron.
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 26 March 2017, 13:47:48
We get an extra hour of daylight this evening.  :)  How can that be a bad thing?  ???  ::)  :y
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Bigron on 26 March 2017, 13:52:41
No you don't, unless you have a galactic influence denied to the rest of us mere mortals. You could have had the extra hour last week, or any day, by adjusting your personal waking/sleeping hours, if you so chose.

Ron.
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Mister Rog on 26 March 2017, 13:52:54
We get an extra hour of daylight this evening.  :)  How can that be a bad thing?  ???  ::)  :y


 :y

So, all that is needed is a bit of sunshine, and I can start thinking about firing up the BBQ !   :y

Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: STEMO on 26 March 2017, 13:56:31
We get an extra hour of daylight this evening.  :)  How can that be a bad thing?  ???  ::)  :y


 :y

So, all that is needed is a bit of sunshine, and I can start thinking about firing up the BBQ !   :y
In March, in Wales? Eff off  ;D
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 March 2017, 14:10:45
You have to think of the poor child living in the Utter Hebridies that would have to walk from the croft to school ;D ;D ;D

Or they could change the school day to start an hour later for all 67 of them, instead of pissing off the whole nation.  ::)
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 March 2017, 14:44:57
I got to work an eleven hour shift last night, so no complaints here ;D
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Rods2 on 26 March 2017, 14:47:26
Absolutely hate it. Normal working hours means unnecessary dark evenings during the winter. Most of my clocks are radio controlled as I have better things to waste my life on. I also find that it takes 1 to 2 weeks for internal body clock to adjust, which as a poor sleeper affects my sleeping patterns. :( :( :( :( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Hopefully once Wee Krankie gets her way we can abandon this madness. :y
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 26 March 2017, 15:21:44
If you can't sleep at night, don't force yourself too... it's a 24 hour world, adjust yours to fit :y
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: zirk on 26 March 2017, 16:35:32
You have to think of the poor child living in the Utter Hebridies that would have to walk from the croft to school ;D ;D ;D

Or they could change the school day to start an hour later for all 67 of them, instead of pissing off the whole nation.  ::)
Means they'd have to walk home in the dark then.
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Bigron on 26 March 2017, 17:05:52
Another "WHY".....why is it that when you lose an hour's sleep, it takes at least a week to recover/adjust, and yet when you gain an hour the benefit evaporates as rapidly as a politicians promises after an election? ::)

Ron.
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 March 2017, 17:12:51
I never notice the hour lost......................because I am retired and can carryon leading my quiet, unhurried life ;D ;D ;D

You poor souls who work as I once did...how I do not miss that! :D ;)
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Bigron on 26 March 2017, 17:17:56
Same here, Lizzie, but what I DO miss is the income - my pension ain't elastic enough to stretch to running a thirsty Omega!  :(

Ron.
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 26 March 2017, 17:21:18
Same here, Lizzie, but what I DO miss is the income - my pension ain't elastic enough to stretch to running a thirsty Omega!  :(

Ron.

Ah, that is not good news Ron. :-\

I only do about 4K miles a year now, so MPG is never an issue, and my Company and State pensions cover that. ;)
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Mister Rog on 26 March 2017, 18:12:40
Same here, Lizzie, but what I DO miss is the income - my pension ain't elastic enough to stretch to running a thirsty Omega!  :(

Ron.

Ah, that is not good news Ron. :-\

I only do about 4K miles a year now, so MPG is never an issue, and my Company and State pensions cover that. ;)

Ahhhhh Pensions. Now there another whole new can of worms topic  :-\  . . . . . . . .

Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Viral_Jim on 26 March 2017, 18:26:39
Same here, Lizzie, but what I DO miss is the income - my pension ain't elastic enough to stretch to running a thirsty Omega!  :(

Ron.

Ah, that is not good news Ron. :-\

I only do about 4K miles a year now, so MPG is never an issue, and my Company and State pensions cover that. ;)

Ahhhhh Pensions. Now there another whole new can of worms topic  :-\  . . . . . . . .

Were you one of the ones affected by the moving retirement dates? Wife and I are in the "retire at 70" age group. My personal prediction is nearer 80.  ;D
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Bigron on 26 March 2017, 18:54:06
I was in education (a college), so could have retired at 60; I chose 62 and a reduced lump sum (all gone ages ago!) but teaching wears you down - not the students, so much, but interfering governments and management.  >:(

on.
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 March 2017, 19:40:19
If you can't sleep at night, don't force yourself too... it's a 24 hour world, adjust yours to fit :y

The secret to a relatively stress free life as a nightshift worker.  :y
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 March 2017, 19:41:10
You have to think of the poor child living in the Utter Hebridies that would have to walk from the croft to school ;D ;D ;D

Or they could change the school day to start an hour later for all 67 of them, instead of pissing off the whole nation.  ::)
Means they'd have to walk home in the dark then.

Give them a fackin torch.  ::) ;D
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: zirk on 26 March 2017, 22:34:20
You have to think of the poor child living in the Utter Hebridies that would have to walk from the croft to school ;D ;D ;D

Or they could change the school day to start an hour later for all 67 of them, instead of pissing off the whole nation.  ::)
Means they'd have to walk home in the dark then.

Give them a fackin torch.  ::) ;D
Well if gave them a fackin torch they could walk to school in the fackin mornings when its dark.  ;D
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Mister Rog on 26 March 2017, 23:18:35
Same here, Lizzie, but what I DO miss is the income - my pension ain't elastic enough to stretch to running a thirsty Omega!  :(

Ron.

Ah, that is not good news Ron. :-\

I only do about 4K miles a year now, so MPG is never an issue, and my Company and State pensions cover that. ;)

Ahhhhh Pensions. Now there another whole new can of worms topic  :-\  . . . . . . . .

Were you one of the ones affected by the moving retirement dates? Wife and I are in the "retire at 70" age group. My personal prediction is nearer 80.  ;D

No, not affected. I've had letters telling me that I need to claim if I want pension to be paid. The thing is, I'm still earning a modest amount, so any pension income will be deducted from my tax free allowance. Effectively, I'll pay tax on it. So the way I see it, taking the pension only makes sense when I have zero other income. Errrrrr  . . . I think  :-\

 
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: X30XE on 27 March 2017, 00:11:55
No you don't, unless you have a galactic influence denied to the rest of us mere mortals. You could have had the extra hour last week, or any day, by adjusting your personal waking/sleeping hours, if you so chose.

Ron.

Alright boss I'm coming into work at 8am and going home at 4pm this summer. You nutcase  ::)

It's GMT in the winter that's bullshit not BST.
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: aaronjb on 27 March 2017, 08:36:01
No you don't, unless you have a galactic influence denied to the rest of us mere mortals. You could have had the extra hour last week, or any day, by adjusting your personal waking/sleeping hours, if you so chose.

Ron.

Alright boss I'm coming into work at 8am and going home at 4pm this summer. You nutcase  ::)

It's GMT in the winter that's bullshit not BST.

Trouble is, X30XE, most people here are 90 years old and have forgotten what it was like to be in the workforce with a boss to answer to! ;)  ;D

Except Opti, we determined last week that he's at least 130..
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Bigron on 27 March 2017, 11:01:47
Aaron, no way have I forgotten! I taught at a college and with a full timetable, I had to here, there and everywhere at precise times - or answer to the consequences. Now, having retired, it is supreme luxury to get up whenever I chose and do whatever I want to.....within the constraints of my budget and hospital appointments - the downsides of retirement.  :(

Ron.
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: aaronjb on 27 March 2017, 11:06:38
Aaron, no way have I forgotten! I taught at a college and with a full timetable, I had to here, there and everywhere at precise times - or answer to the consequences. Now, having retired, it is supreme luxury to get up whenever I chose and do whatever I want to.....within the constraints of my budget and hospital appointments - the downsides of retirement.  :(

T'was tongue in cheek really Ron ;) and jealousy! (Of the luxury part, not the hospital appointments, of course)

I'd say I'm looking forward to retiring but that seems a very far off prospect, assuming I don't end up working until they push me into a hole in the ground ;D (I'm only 38 so y'know.. a few years to go yet)

It was just starting to get lighter in the mornings for my commute on the days I'm in the office, now I guess it'll be back to being pitch black at 5:30am when I leave  :'(
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Bigron on 27 March 2017, 11:12:35
Yes, I did realise that; it's what I like about this site - the friendly p*ss-taking! And obviously the invaluable help, freely given. Where else......?  ;D 8) :y

Ron.
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 March 2017, 13:56:03
Aaron, no way have I forgotten! I taught at a college and with a full timetable, I had to here, there and everywhere at precise times - or answer to the consequences. Now, having retired, it is supreme luxury to get up whenever I chose and do whatever I want to.....within the constraints of my budget and hospital appointments - the downsides of retirement.  :(

Ron.
Twenty weeks holiday a year hardly constitutes full time... ::)



Light the fuse and ruuuuuuuunnnn :D
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: aaronjb on 27 March 2017, 14:52:14
 ;D ;D

Careful Al, Big Ron might send his friend Big Winston round! ;D
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Bigron on 27 March 2017, 15:57:06
DG, I don't need to smack you because you know better than that - NOBODY gets to have all of the FOURTEEN weeks holiday; we are far too busy catching up on the backlog of admin., preparation and a myriad of other things that working 12-hour days don't suffice, even after taking work home as well!
However, I've give Big Winston your address.....  >:(

Ron.
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Bigron on 27 March 2017, 16:01:51
Just spotted that you said "full time". If you read me properly, I said full timeTABLE, which means every waking moment at college and due to cuts and limited resources, doing several jobs at once.
A colleague was once timetable inm THREE classes at the same time - he time-dhared like crazy!
Just before I retired, they were making plans to have all teaching staff fitted with socked up their ars*s so that they could sweep the corridors at the same time - saves on cleaners!  ::)

Ron.
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 March 2017, 16:02:39
Both my parents were teachers, so I know how much time they had off and how much effort was put into preparation/marking/report writing etc. Seven years incarceration helped to reinforce that, although we kids had less work to do during our 18 weeks of holidays ;)
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Bigron on 27 March 2017, 16:15:06
I KNEW you knew!
Ok, I'll call Big Winston off - but keep up the p*ss-taking, it's what makes this forum so special..... 8)

Ron.
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: ronnyd on 27 March 2017, 22:00:29
Aaron, no way have I forgotten! I taught at a college and with a full timetable, I had to here, there and everywhere at precise times - or answer to the consequences. Now, having retired, it is supreme luxury to get up whenever I chose and do whatever I want to.....within the constraints of my budget and hospital appointments - the downsides of retirement.  :(

T'was tongue in cheek really Ron ;) and jealousy! (Of the luxury part, not the hospital appointments, of course)

I'd say I'm looking forward to retiring but that seems a very far off prospect, assuming I don't end up working until they push me into a hole in the ground ;D (I'm only 38 so y'know.. a few years to go yet)

It was just starting to get lighter in the mornings for my commute on the days I'm in the office, now I guess it'll be back to being pitch black at 5:30am when I leave  :'(
I,m also retired Aaron and it,s bl**dy fantastic but don,t go wishing your life away. Do all you can now as some poor buggers don,t even make retirement. :(
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: aaronjb on 28 March 2017, 07:36:34
Aye very true!
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Shackeng on 28 March 2017, 09:53:19
We had double summertime during the war. GMT+1 in winter, +2 in summer. Lovely long summer days I recall, pity about the bombs. :(
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 March 2017, 09:02:14
Have you recovered yet Ron?  :)
Title: Re: WHY?
Post by: Viral_Jim on 29 March 2017, 09:33:03
We had double summertime during the war. GMT+1 in winter, +2 in summer. Lovely long summer days I recall, pity about the bombs. :(

I had a similar experience this week. Clocks went forward an hour on Sunday, flew to Switzerland on Monday (so another hour forward), then get told they work 7-5 here. Still not fully up to speed yet!  ???