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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: LC0112G on 04 May 2017, 21:58:14
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I had the misfortune to use that cluster-f*** of a tunnel yesterday. So today I try to pay the £2.50 charge. Get all the way through the payment process, enter credit card details, press submit, and then get some strange warning about not being able to display something in frames for security reasons.
So no onscreen receipt or reference number. And no Email receipt either (yet). So I can't check if I've paid or not. However, if I log into my internet banking I can see a payment of £2.50 to TFL-Dart or whatever it's called.
So I have till midnight to pay, I think I've paid, but have no receipt and no way to check. What could possibly go wrong?
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You do have a receipt, at least one to say that you attempted to pay. Your card statement. Take a screen shot.
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I have used it on 3 occasions in the last 2 years paid & received on line confirmation that payment has been made & then a couple of weeks later have received letters of court action for failure to pay & had to send proof of payment , I asked to be reimbursed for the postage costs but heard nothing, if it happens again I will take them up on their court action bunch of cu**s.
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Does anyone remember the promise that when the cost of the bridge was recouped, the crossing would be free? Or was that just a "politicians'" promise?
Ron.
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Does anyone remember the promise that when the cost of the bridge was recouped, the crossing would be free? Or was that just a "politicians'" promise?
Ron.
Nobody ever kills a cash cow. But at least it wasn't privatised as Gordon Brown wanted to do, otherwise it would be even more expensive.
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Does anyone remember the promise that when the cost of the bridge was recouped, the crossing would be free? Or was that just a "politicians'" promise?
Ron.
Its not a Toll Charge anymore, its now a Congestion Charge. Money used to go to the Dartford Tunnel / Bridge Owners, now it goes to Mayor of London TfL.
And to answer OP question 35 quid is the first fine if you don't get it sorted within 24 hours.
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Extortionate charge for using something that we already own and have paid for handsomely. >:(
Ron.
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Does anyone remember the promise that when the cost of the bridge was recouped, the crossing would be free? Or was that just a "politicians'" promise?
Ron.
Nobody ever kills a cash cow. But at least it wasn't privatised as Gordon Brown wanted to do, otherwise it would be even more expensive.
Yes it was. And then it was sold to the French. A vital piece of infrastructure(there is NO sensible way of avoiding the Dartford Crossing) not owned by the country it's in? What oppswit thought that up? And we let them do it, which doesn't say much for us.
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Extortionate charge for using something that we already own and have paid for handsomely. >:(
Ron.
As a regular user of the Severn Bridge, £2.50 for the Dartford Crossing seems very reasonable compared to £6.70 for crossing the River Severn! ::)
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Extortionate charge for using something that we already own and have paid for handsomely. >:(
Ron.
As a regular user of the Severn Bridge, £2.50 for the Dartford Crossing seems very reasonable compared to £6.70 for crossing the River Severn! ::)
You want to try turning up in a pickup .. £13.50! That was a shock to the system..
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Does anyone remember the promise that when the cost of the bridge was recouped, the crossing would be free? Or was that just a "politicians'" promise?
Ron.
Nobody ever kills a cash cow. But at least it wasn't privatised as Gordon Brown wanted to do, otherwise it would be even more expensive.
Yes it was. And then it was sold to the French. A vital piece of infrastructure(there is NO sensible way of avoiding the Dartford Crossing) not owned by the country it's in? What oppswit thought that up? And we let them do it, which doesn't say much for us.
Hmmmm I'm not sure about that. I think the contract to run the charging system may be SANEF who run many of the French Peage roads, I don't think they actually bought the bridge & tunnels. Not sure though.
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Extortionate charge for using something that we already own and have paid for handsomely. >:(
Ron.
As a regular user of the Severn Bridge, £2.50 for the Dartford Crossing seems very reasonable compared to £6.70 for crossing the River Severn! ::)
You want to try turning up in a pickup .. £13.50! That was a shock to the system..
My daughter runs a small car sized van for her baking business. Yes, 13.50. If it was an HGV I could understand it. Just money grabbing. By the time the toll and fuel costs are considered it's often quite a bit cheaper and sometimes quicker to go East of the Severn by train if it's just one person
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Extortionate charge for using something that we already own and have paid for handsomely. >:(
Ron.
As a regular user of the Severn Bridge, £2.50 for the Dartford Crossing seems very reasonable compared to £6.70 for crossing the River Severn! ::)
You want to try turning up in a pickup .. £13.50! That was a shock to the system..
That's the Redneck Tax! :-X ;D ;D ;D
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Extortionate charge for using something that we already own and have paid for handsomely. >:(
Ron.
As a regular user of the Severn Bridge, £2.50 for the Dartford Crossing seems very reasonable compared to £6.70 for crossing the River Severn! ::)
You want to try turning up in a pickup .. £13.50! That was a shock to the system..
That's the Redneck Tax! :-X ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D I'll have you know I resemble that remark!
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Makes the tamar bridge at £1.50 seem an absolute bargin ;D
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Makes the tamar bridge at £1.50 seem an absolute bargin ;D
Humber bridge to!
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Expensive, that. Where I grew up our local toll bridge was just 2p! (Then 5p, 10p, 15p and now it's a heady 40p)
(http://www.penninewaterways.co.uk/northyorks/ure012.jpg)
;D
(Aldwark Toll Bridge on the River Ure)
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The Clifton Suspension Bridge is £1 or you can get this down to 35p by buying a crossing card .
The bridge is run by a non profit making charity, which doesn't get any form of grants or payments and has to pay all the maintenance from the toll charge....
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Does anyone remember the promise that when the cost of the bridge was recouped, the crossing would be free? Or was that just a "politicians'" promise?
Ron.
Its not a Toll Charge anymore, its now a Congestion Charge. Money used to go to the Dartford Tunnel / Bridge Owners, now it goes to Mayor of London TfL.
And to answer OP question 35 quid is the first fine if you don't get it sorted within 24 hours.
Ah, but now another Thames crossing - at Gravesend - must be paid for, so we will be paying a toll / congestion charge / tax, whatever, for decades to come. ::) ::) ;)
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Does anyone remember the promise that when the cost of the bridge was recouped, the crossing would be free? Or was that just a "politicians'" promise?
Ron.
Its not a Toll Charge anymore, its now a Congestion Charge. Money used to go to the Dartford Tunnel / Bridge Owners, now it goes to Mayor of London TfL.
And to answer OP question 35 quid is the first fine if you don't get it sorted within 24 hours.
Ah, but now another Thames crossing - at Gravesend - must be paid for, so we will be paying a toll / congestion charge / tax, whatever, for decades to come. ::) ::) ;)
There still thinking about making the Blackwell Tunnel chargeable, bless them. ::
Woolwich Ferry Boat Service Crossing is still Free, by the time you queue up to drive on the Boat (can be up to 2 hours), cross the river, queue to drove off the other end, can make a nice day out if the weathers nice. ::) ;D
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Does anyone remember the promise that when the cost of the bridge was recouped, the crossing would be free? Or was that just a "politicians'" promise?
Ron.
Its not a Toll Charge anymore, its now a Congestion Charge. Money used to go to the Dartford Tunnel / Bridge Owners, now it goes to Mayor of London TfL.
And to answer OP question 35 quid is the first fine if you don't get it sorted within 24 hours.
Ah, but now another Thames crossing - at Gravesend - must be paid for, so we will be paying a toll / congestion charge / tax, whatever, for decades to come. ::) ::) ;)
There still thinking about making the Blackwell Tunnel chargeable, bless them. ::
Woolwich Ferry Boat Service Crossing is still Free, by the time you queue up to drive on the Boat (can be up to 2 hours), cross the river, queue to drove off the other end, can make a nice day out if the weathers nice. ::) ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D plus the time as well that it takes to fight drive sedately through some lovely congested interesting roads to Woolwich ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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nowt wrong with Woolwich...Stanhope and kingsnorth on the other hand.....I would take my chances with Woolwich every time :y
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nowt wrong with Woolwich...Stanhope and kingsnorth on the other hand.....I would take my chances with Woolwich every time :y
I agree, nothing wrong with Woolwich; just a nightmare drive if you have to drive in across South East London :D :D ;)
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nowt wrong with Woolwich...Stanhope and kingsnorth on the other hand.....I would take my chances with Woolwich every time :y
I agree, nothing wrong with Woolwich; just a nightmare drive if you have to drive in across South East London :D :D ;)
Nothing wrong with Woolwich, I drive into it every day and park for free either the car perfectly safe and secure.
Better than Blackheath/Lewisham, trust me.
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Yep,Humber bridge toll is relatively cheap compared to others.But I'm a tightwad and on the rare occasions when I use it I still begrudge paying it :P
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nowt wrong with Woolwich...Stanhope and kingsnorth on the other hand.....I would take my chances with Woolwich every time :y
I agree, nothing wrong with Woolwich; just a nightmare drive if you have to drive in across South East London :D :D ;)
Nothing wrong with Woolwich, I drive into it every day and park for free either the car perfectly safe and secure.
Better than Blackheath/Lewisham, trust me.
Ah, but you are already in SE London. I mean if you have to drive into South London at 0730 or out at 1730 from Kent of other Home Counties. But it was like that in the 1970's. Regularly it would take me 90 minutes to get from Bromley to Deptford, let alone Bromley to Chelsea, or Kidbrooke. Then I moved out to Tonbridge, and made the journey worse. Even a journey from Ashford to the Old Kent Road at 0730 in 2000-2003 could be 2 hours long. :'( :'(
Is it really that good now in 2017; has the trend of heavier and heavier congestion been bucked? If so that is very good news! :y :y :y
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nowt wrong with Woolwich...Stanhope and kingsnorth on the other hand.....I would take my chances with Woolwich every time :y
I agree, nothing wrong with Woolwich; just a nightmare drive if you have to drive in across South East London :D :D ;)
Nothing wrong with Woolwich, I drive into it every day and park for free either the car perfectly safe and secure.
Better than Blackheath/Lewisham, trust me.
Ah, but you are already in SE London. I mean if you have to drive into South London at 0730 or out at 1730 from Kent of other Home Counties. But it was like that in the 1970's. Regularly it would take me 90 minutes to get from Bromley to Deptford, let alone Bromley to Chelsea, or Kidbrooke. Then I moved out to Tonbridge, and made the journey worse. Even a journey from Ashford to the Old Kent Road at 0730 in 2000-2003 could be 2 hours long. :'( :'(
Is it really that good now in 2017; has the trend of heavier and heavier congestion been bucked? If so that is very good news! :y :y :y
I live on the Kent London border.
It takes me 12 minutes to get to work. It takes me 15 to get home.
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nowt wrong with Woolwich...Stanhope and kingsnorth on the other hand.....I would take my chances with Woolwich every time :y
I agree, nothing wrong with Woolwich; just a nightmare drive if you have to drive in across South East London :D :D ;)
Nothing wrong with Woolwich, I drive into it every day and park for free either the car perfectly safe and secure.
Better than Blackheath/Lewisham, trust me.
Ah, but you are already in SE London. I mean if you have to drive into South London at 0730 or out at 1730 from Kent of other Home Counties. But it was like that in the 1970's. Regularly it would take me 90 minutes to get from Bromley to Deptford, let alone Bromley to Chelsea, or Kidbrooke. Then I moved out to Tonbridge, and made the journey worse. Even a journey from Ashford to the Old Kent Road at 0730 in 2000-2003 could be 2 hours long. :'( :'(
Is it really that good now in 2017; has the trend of heavier and heavier congestion been bucked? If so that is very good news! :y :y :y
I live on the Kent London border.
It takes me 12 minutes to get to work. It takes me 15 to get home.
Well I'm impressed! 8) 8) :y :y
That isn't at midnight is it, or some other off peak time? ;D ;D ;D
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nowt wrong with Woolwich...Stanhope and kingsnorth on the other hand.....I would take my chances with Woolwich every time :y
Beginning of morning rush hour and around 5-6pm
I agree, nothing wrong with Woolwich; just a nightmare drive if you have to drive in across South East London :D :D ;)
Nothing wrong with Woolwich, I drive into it every day and park for free either the car perfectly safe and secure.
Better than Blackheath/Lewisham, trust me.
Ah, but you are already in SE London. I mean if you have to drive into South London at 0730 or out at 1730 from Kent of other Home Counties. But it was like that in the 1970's. Regularly it would take me 90 minutes to get from Bromley to Deptford, let alone Bromley to Chelsea, or Kidbrooke. Then I moved out to Tonbridge, and made the journey worse. Even a journey from Ashford to the Old Kent Road at 0730 in 2000-2003 could be 2 hours long. :'( :'(
Is it really that good now in 2017; has the trend of heavier and heavier congestion been bucked? If so that is very good news! :y :y :y
I live on the Kent London border.
It takes me 12 minutes to get to work. It takes me 15 to get home.
Well I'm impressed! 8) 8) :y :y
That isn't at midnight is it, or some other off peak time? ;D ;D ;D
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nowt wrong with Woolwich...Stanhope and kingsnorth on the other hand.....I would take my chances with Woolwich every time :y
I agree, nothing wrong with Woolwich; just a nightmare drive if you have to drive in across South East London :D :D ;)
Nothing wrong with Woolwich, I drive into it every day and park for free either the car perfectly safe and secure.
Better than Blackheath/Lewisham, trust me.
Ah, but you are already in SE London. I mean if you have to drive into South London at 0730 or out at 1730 from Kent of other Home Counties. But it was like that in the 1970's. Regularly it would take me 90 minutes to get from Bromley to Deptford, let alone Bromley to Chelsea, or Kidbrooke. Then I moved out to Tonbridge, and made the journey worse. Even a journey from Ashford to the Old Kent Road at 0730 in 2000-2003 could be 2 hours long. :'( :'(
Is it really that good now in 2017; has the trend of heavier and heavier congestion been bucked? If so that is very good news! :y :y :y
I do this everyday at the times you state and I fail to see how it takes anyone 2 hours if you know where you are going ?
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nowt wrong with Woolwich...Stanhope and kingsnorth on the other hand.....I would take my chances with Woolwich every time :y
I agree, nothing wrong with Woolwich; just a nightmare drive if you have to drive in across South East London :D :D ;)
Nothing wrong with Woolwich, I drive into it every day and park for free either the car perfectly safe and secure.
Better than Blackheath/Lewisham, trust me.
Ah, but you are already in SE London. I mean if you have to drive into South London at 0730 or out at 1730 from Kent of other Home Counties. But it was like that in the 1970's. Regularly it would take me 90 minutes to get from Bromley to Deptford, let alone Bromley to Chelsea, or Kidbrooke. Then I moved out to Tonbridge, and made the journey worse. Even a journey from Ashford to the Old Kent Road at 0730 in 2000-2003 could be 2 hours long. :'( :'(
Is it really that good now in 2017; has the trend of heavier and heavier congestion been bucked? If so that is very good news! :y :y :y
I do this everyday at the times you state and I fail to see how it takes anyone 2 hours if you know where you are going ?
You would be coming in from the M2 / A2. My journey, 6 days a week, was Ashford up the M20 through Lewisham, New Cross,(both bad bottlenecks then onto the old Kent Road. Sometimes I would go M20, M25, A2, through Lewisham, New Cross and Old Kent Road. Coming home could be far worse, with more than once the journey just from the Old Kent Road to Lewisham taking 1.5 hours. THE main problem was always New Cross, with the bridge there having restricted flow in 2001-2003. I agree though, if I did the journey on a public holiday it just took 1 hour from Ashford to the Old Kent Road.
If in 2017 that journey can be done quicker then that is great, and I wonder why people moan about the heavy congestion in South London.
Mind you, the Congestion charge has had a noticeable affect, and driving around central London is relatively better than it once was. :y
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no my journey does not in anyway encounter the M2..M20 every day
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no my journey does not in anyway encounter the M2..M20 every day
But you are in Medway. What route do you take then? How do you travel the route that I did every day from Ashford when you are in Medway? :-\
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There's a Troll - err Toll bridge jest west of Oxford that avoids the carnage on the A40/Peartree roundabout junction. It's 5p each way for cars.
Still no email receipt from TfL/Dartcharge, but the £2.50 has migrated from the 'pending' to the 'paid' page on my credit card interweb statement. I have screenshots of both just in case. So how long before the penalty charge notice lands?
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There's a Troll - err Toll bridge jest west of Oxford that avoids the carnage on the A40/Peartree roundabout junction. It's 5p each way for cars.
Still no email receipt from TfL/Dartcharge, but the £2.50 has migrated from the 'pending' to the 'paid' page on my credit card interweb statement. I have screenshots of both just in case. So how long before the penalty charge notice lands?
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Mine have taken around 2 weeks to arrive on each occasion.