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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: moggy on 06 May 2017, 10:38:47
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Hi all,just had a quote from vauxhall £158 inc vat.Is this a good price for genuine or should i just buy cheap,Dean.
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They used to be around £100 on Trade Club .... have they gone up a bit?
Having been messed about in the past with pattern discs on a Senator, I'd tend to buy OE ..... less chance of problems later on.
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Brembo ones on offer at ecp ( use the code "weekend 55" ) about £130 they also have pagid ones cheaper.
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Brembo ones on offer at ecp ( use the code "weekend 55" ) about £130 they also have pagid ones cheaper.
For that small a difference I'd go genuine... Aftermarket is a minefield with even known brands being a poor match for the job required. The TC and OE discs and pads are proven on many cars and even survive TB's driving style!
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Brembo ones on offer at ecp ( use the code "weekend 55" ) about £130 they also have pagid ones cheaper.
Thanks for that mate,just been on ecp web site.They don't do a disc and pad set,and the pads they have will fit my car.But the discs are vented i need solid,so it looks like i will have to use vauxhall.I looked on ebay but none of them are compatible to my car.Dean.
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Hi all,just had a quote from vauxhall £158 inc vat.Is this a good price for genuine or should i just buy cheap,Dean.
For what? Front? Rear? Both?
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Brembo ones on offer at ecp ( use the code "weekend 55" ) about £130 they also have pagid ones cheaper.
I've had problems with Pagid supplied by ECP. Not sure if Pagid quality has gone down the shitter, or if ECP are up to their well known dodgy tricks of selling fake parts. Either way, had to through them away after 6 weeks, and put some TC ones on instead.
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Stupidly, rears seem to be more expensive ::)
Being a 3.0, I would sincerely hope op means rears ???
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I would chip in at this point and say we sell Vetech from GaySF and have had no returns / warranties on them. And very well priced.
1,000,000 percent steer clear of drivemaster stuff. By far the worst brakes we've ever fitted (i.e. Fitted on 4 motors and 100% warranty claims :-X)
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Hi all,just had a quote from vauxhall £158 inc vat.Is this a good price for genuine or should i just buy cheap,Dean.
For what? Front? Rear? Both?
TB just the front pads and discs genuine gm.Dean.
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Hi all,just had a quote from vauxhall £158 inc vat.Is this a good price for genuine or should i just buy cheap,Dean.
For what? Front? Rear? Both?
TB just the front pads and discs genuine gm.Dean.
Is that one tradeclub, or just trade? Sounds expensive to me...
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Brembo ones on offer at ecp ( use the code "weekend 55" ) about £130 they also have pagid ones cheaper.
Thanks for that mate,just been on ecp web site.They don't do a disc and pad set,and the pads they have will fit my car.But the discs are vented i need solid,so it looks like i will have to use vauxhall.I looked on ebay but none of them are compatible to my car.Dean.
Your front discs should most definitely be VENTED :o
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Hi all,just had a quote from vauxhall £158 inc vat.Is this a good price for genuine or should i just buy cheap,Dean.
For what? Front? Rear? Both?
TB just the front pads and discs genuine gm.Dean.
Is that one tradeclub, or just trade? Sounds expensive to me...
TB just phoned the local vauxhall dealer,hear in hartlepool that's the price. Dean.
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Brembo ones on offer at ecp ( use the code "weekend 55" ) about £130 they also have pagid ones cheaper.
Thanks for that mate,just been on ecp web site.They don't do a disc and pad set,and the pads they have will fit my car.But the discs are vented i need solid,so it looks like i will have to use vauxhall.I looked on ebay but none of them are compatible to my car.Dean.
Your front discs should most definitely be VENTED :o
Dont know if they should be,but they were solid when i brought the car.So 4 years ago solid discs and pads were fitted.Dean.
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Front discs should be vented :y
Rears also vented on 3.2/2.6(?)) only :y
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Brembo ones on offer at ecp ( use the code "weekend 55" ) about £130 they also have pagid ones cheaper.
Thanks for that mate,just been on ecp web site.They don't do a disc and pad set,and the pads they have will fit my car.But the discs are vented i need solid,so it looks like i will have to use vauxhall.I looked on ebay but none of them are compatible to my car.Dean.
Your front discs should most definitely be VENTED :o
Dont know if they should be,but they were solid when i brought the car.So 4 years ago solid discs and pads were fitted.Dean.
That is seriously not right if true. Dangerous too if the callipers are original... as the pads wear they become thinner... fitting narrower discs can cause the pads to fall out when they get to around 60% worn. Also the pistons can be pushed out far enough to leak. Whoever fitted the discs wants shooting. Twice.
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Brembo ones on offer at ecp ( use the code "weekend 55" ) about £130 they also have pagid ones cheaper.
Thanks for that mate,just been on ecp web site.They don't do a disc and pad set,and the pads they have will fit my car.But the discs are vented i need solid,so it looks like i will have to use vauxhall.I looked on ebay but none of them are compatible to my car.Dean.
Your front discs should most definitely be VENTED :o
Dont know if they should be,but they were solid when i brought the car.So 4 years ago solid discs and pads were fitted.Dean.
That is seriously not right if true. Dangerous too if the callipers are original... as the pads wear they become thinner... fitting narrower discs can cause the pads to fall out when they get to around 60% worn. Also the pistons can be pushed out far enough to leak. Whoever fitted the discs wants shooting. Twice.
Hi mate,don't know what you mean by your comment(if true)are you calling me a lire.The discs were solid when i bought the car,so just changed like for like.The calipers are original and the pads have not fell out,or leaked.I will check with vauxhall if they are supplying me with vented or solid,as they never said on the phone.Dean.
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All omegas except the 8v 2.0 use the same, 296mm from memory, vented disks.
If thats not what you have, someone has put something different / wrong on there at some point.
It may be worth uploading a photo of what you have as if other bits have been changed too, you could have a world of grief finding like for like or returning to original spec.
For the rears, only the later cars had vented disks.
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Also just to add, when we say vented we mean the gap between the two discs. Not as in holes drilled though, like more modern vented ones.
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Should look like this...
http://www.ate-brakes.com/media/1694/ate_brake_disc_3_1.jpg?anchor=center&mode=crop&width=1200&rnd=131172749280000000l (http://www.ate-brakes.com/media/1694/ate_brake_disc_3_1.jpg?anchor=center&mode=crop&width=1200&rnd=131172749280000000l)
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Also just to add, when we say vented we mean the gap between the two discs. Not as in holes drilled though, like more modern vented ones.
Because that's "Cross Drilled" not vented ;)
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Also just to add, when we say vented we mean the gap between the two discs. Not as in holes drilled though.
Solid means just that. No venting, no drilling.
Vented means two disc surfaces with an air space between them.
Drilled means holes drilled through the disc faces.
Both available independently ;)
Not calling you a liar, it's just that fitting the discs from an early 1.8 Carlton, or worse still, a pair of Omega rear discs :o, would be such a backward step that I am reluctant to believe it to be the case. :-\
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but it has been known for a garage to fit older solid discs to the back of a 3.2/2.6 and as said above, when the pads wear a little, they try to escape the caliper followed by brake fluid.
Just ask Mike Dundee .....
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but it has been known for a garage to fit older solid discs to the back of a 3.2/2.6 and as said above, when the pads wear a little, they try to escape the caliper followed by brake fluid.
Just ask Mike Dundee .....
This is because the inner face is in the same position but solid discs are a full 8mm thinner... an extra 8mm of travel on the outer piston/pad just to reach the disc. The piston leaking and the pad falling out probably happen simultaneously :o
Not helped by not being able to buy new/refurbished vented calipers... The only reason a later V6 should have solid rear discs is if one of the calipers needs renewing ;
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but it has been known for a garage to fit older solid discs to the back of a 3.2/2.6 and as said above, when the pads wear a little, they try to escape the caliper followed by brake fluid.
Just ask Mike Dundee .....
Fortunately, despite being in a field in the middle of nowhere, OOF managed to get it sorted :y
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moggy - all Omega front discs are vented.
Pre 1998 2.0l are 286mm, all others are 296mm
Solid discs will likely be narrower, so need different calipers for safety reasons. Also, solid discs cannot dissipate heat as well, and stopping a 2 tonne lump generates a lot of heat.
Please go and double check and even photograph what you have, then we can advise :y
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but it has been known for a garage to fit older solid discs to the back of a 3.2/2.6 and as said above, when the pads wear a little, they try to escape the caliper followed by brake fluid.
Just ask Mike Dundee .....
Fortunately, despite being in a field in the middle of nowhere, OOF managed to get it sorted :y
It did :y :y .... I've a photo somewhere of the car on a jack IIRC
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Should look like this...
http://www.ate-brakes.com/media/1694/ate_brake_disc_3_1.jpg?anchor=center&mode=crop&width=1200&rnd=131172749280000000l (http://www.ate-brakes.com/media/1694/ate_brake_disc_3_1.jpg?anchor=center&mode=crop&width=1200&rnd=131172749280000000l)
As per the photo,mine are defiantly not the same.They are solid, if this is wrong can i go back to vented.Dean.
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A picture paints a thousand words and all that... in order to best advise you, we need to see exactly what is fitted ;)
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A picture paints a thousand words and all that... in order to best advise you, we need to see exactly what is fitted ;)
Hi mate,i will try to put some pictures up but just to clarify.Approx 4 years ago i ordered new discs and pads from Andy c who worked at a vauxhall parts department.I was with my mechanic when he fitted them,the ones he took off were defiantly solid.And the ones that were supplied were solid.So i don't know what happened before i brought the car,maybe the calipers were changed to accommodate this.I will speak to vauxhall on Monday and ask what they are supplying,but if you are saying solid is wrong.I don't really know where to go from here,do i ask for vented or solid. :-[ :-\.Dean.
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Should look like this...
http://www.ate-brakes.com/media/1694/ate_brake_disc_3_1.jpg?anchor=center&mode=crop&width=1200&rnd=131172749280000000l (http://www.ate-brakes.com/media/1694/ate_brake_disc_3_1.jpg?anchor=center&mode=crop&width=1200&rnd=131172749280000000l)
As per the photo,mine are defiantly not the same.They are solid, if this is wrong can i go back to vented.Dean.
Some cowboys bodge-it garage has really screwed up :(
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Should look like this...
http://www.ate-brakes.com/media/1694/ate_brake_disc_3_1.jpg?anchor=center&mode=crop&width=1200&rnd=131172749280000000l (http://www.ate-brakes.com/media/1694/ate_brake_disc_3_1.jpg?anchor=center&mode=crop&width=1200&rnd=131172749280000000l)
As per the photo,mine are defiantly not the same.They are solid, if this is wrong can i go back to vented.Dean.
Some cowboys bodge-it garage has really screwed up :(
Hi Tunnie,how do i rectify this.So first my life and my wife's life have been in jeopardy for the last ten years.When i bought the parts from Andy c he knows what he talking about,he is a good man.So now what do i order from vauxhall,vented or solid.And if i order vented will they fit.
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Really need to see what's fitted :-\
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Are we 100% talking fronts, not rears?
If you cant post a pic, email one through to me and ill put it up for you - letter icon under my name shows my email address
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A picture paints a thousand words and all that... in order to best advise you, we need to see exactly what is fitted ;)
Hi mate,i will try to put some pictures up but just to clarify.Approx 4 years ago i ordered new discs and pads from Andy c who worked at a vauxhall parts department.I was with my mechanic when he fitted them,the ones he took off were defiantly solid.And the ones that were supplied were solid.So i don't know what happened before i brought the car,maybe the calipers were changed to accommodate this.I will speak to vauxhall on Monday and ask what they are supplying,but if you are saying solid is wrong.I don't really know where to go from here,do i ask for vented or solid. :-[ :-\.Dean.
Andy C was/is one of the most knowledgeable Omega parts suppliers out there. I can't believe he would have supplied the wrong parts for your car :-\
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Are we 100% talking fronts, not rears?
I think this is the problem
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Are we 100% talking fronts, not rears?
I think this is the problem
100% fronts.Dean.
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Any chance you can pm me your reg, Ill do a lookup in epc for curiosity
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Any chance you can pm me your reg, Ill do a lookup in epc for curiosity
Thats very kind of you jimbob,but took the wheel off today.And guess what all of oof and the world were right,and i was wrong.They are vented i don't know why i thought they were solid.I would like to thank you all for your comments :-[ :).Dean
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Everyday is a school day, and at least you know now :y
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Any chance you can pm me your reg, Ill do a lookup in epc for curiosity
Thats very kind of you jimbob,but took the wheel off today.And guess what all of oof and the world were right,and i was wrong.They are vented i don't know why i thought they were solid.I would like to thank you all for your comments :-[ :).Dean
That's OK, Dean. Now go and read your Janet and John book. ;D
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Hi all,i have been offed ac delco discs supplied with gm pads delivered £65.Think i will give them a go Dean.
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Acdelco being the US GM parts arm... Worth a punt at that price :y
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Cheers for solving the mystery :-)
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Any chance you can pm me your reg, Ill do a lookup in epc for curiosity
Thats very kind of you jimbob,but took the wheel off today.And guess what all of oof and the world were right,and i was wrong.They are vented i don't know why i thought they were solid.I would like to thank you all for your comments :-[ :).Dean
That's OK, Dean. Now go and read your Janet and John book. ;D
Peter and Jane in my day. Or John and Marie-Claude in my French lessons.
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Jack and Jill in my day. Jack and Jill went up the hill, to fetch a pale of water. Jill came down, with half a crown.............CENSORED. ;D
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Janet and John is the modern version, in my time it was Dick and Dora. ;D