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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Varche on 27 May 2017, 17:25:30
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Crikey, that will cause some knock on disruption and financial loss!
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It's not like it's a Bank Holiday weekend or anything...
Oh, wait a minute ::)
No mention as to cause, even inside the loop, but I am sure that the terrorists, sorry, Union, will blame Brexit :D
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Probably a key server still running XP that has died for some reason ::)
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IT recently outspurced to India. Penny pinching coming home to roost?
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Well, BA made all their IT staff redundant about 18months ago, and outsourced it to cheap offshore idiots.
Now, I'm just the stupid kid from the local comprehensive, but even I could tell back then this would happen, and cripple the company.
BA got their just desserts really.
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The trouble is the more "the system" becomes an advanced one with wonderful state of the art electronics, the more it will go wrong.
Another good example happened at Gatwick just the other day when the super, duper, multi-million pound state of the art, best in the world, baggage handling system went bang at about 0430. The result was that thousands of passengers had to fly off without their baggage, and even worse many missed their flights completely because the disruption caused stopped them checking in in time for their flights!
The price of progress?! ::) ::) ::) ::)
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The trouble is the more "the system" becomes an advanced one with wonderful state of the art electronics, the more it will go wrong.
Another good example happened at Gatwick just the other day when the super, duper, multi-million pound state of the art, best in the world, baggage handling system went bang at about 0430. The result was that thousands of passengers had to fly off without their baggage, and even worse many missed their flights completely because the disruption caused stopped them checking in in time for their flights!
The price of progress?! ::) ::) ::) ::)
Its not the system. Its the penny pinchers. Any system failure should be utterly transparent to the end user.
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The trouble is the more "the system" becomes an advanced one with wonderful state of the art electronics, the more it will go wrong.
Another good example happened at Gatwick just the other day when the super, duper, multi-million pound state of the art, best in the world, baggage handling system went bang at about 0430. The result was that thousands of passengers had to fly off without their baggage, and even worse many missed their flights completely because the disruption caused stopped them checking in in time for their flights!
The price of progress?! ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Well our flight to varche_land was delayed by some stoopid spank called trump, leaving Israel, all flights were grounded while he took off, The only person to tell us the reason for delay was the pilot, easy jet, and Luton staff, said, breakall, soon as we boarded pilot spilled the whole story....
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Yesterday's baggage issue affected one terminal and was/is completely unrelated to today's episode.
It was exaggerated by the fact that next to nobody has the ability to manually process bags and people any more... 25 years ago, you wouldn't have noticed the snafu ;)
# Still the busiest and best single runway airport in the world. Ever.
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Yesterday's baggage issue affected on terminal and was/is completely unrelated to today's episode.
It was exaggerated by the fact that next to nobody has the ability to manually process bags and people any more... 25 years ago, you wouldn't have noticed the snafu ;)
# Still the busiest and best single runway airport in the world. Ever.
Who said it was? ::) ::)
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Yesterday's baggage issue affected on terminal and was/is completely unrelated to today's episode.
It was exaggerated by the fact that next to nobody has the ability to manually process bags and people any more... 25 years ago, you wouldn't have noticed the snafu ;)
# Still the busiest and best single runway airport in the world. Ever.
Has nothing to do with it being your employers.
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The trouble is the more "the system" becomes an advanced one with wonderful state of the art electronics, the more it will go wrong.
Another good example happened at Gatwick just the other day when the super, duper, multi-million pound state of the art, best in the world, baggage handling system went bang at about 0430. The result was that thousands of passengers had to fly off without their baggage, and even worse many missed their flights completely because the disruption caused stopped them checking in in time for their flights!
The price of progress?! ::) ::) ::) ::)
Its not the system. Its the penny pinchers. Any system failure should be utterly transparent to the end user.
It's a case of them knowing the cost of everything & the value of nothing!
Who was it outsourced to?
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Your tone implied it. And I wouldn't want anyone to mistakenly link the two things ;)
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Power supply issue aperently, maybe someone unpluged the extension lead from India.
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Your tone implied it. And I wouldn't want anyone to mistakenly link the two things ;)
No, honest there was no intention to link the two DG. Just making the point about us relying on all this wonderful technology. ;)
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Yesterday's baggage issue affected on terminal and was/is completely unrelated to today's episode.
It was exaggerated by the fact that next to nobody has the ability to manually process bags and people any more... 25 years ago, you wouldn't have noticed the snafu ;)
# Still the busiest and best single runway airport in the world. Ever.
Has nothing to do with it being your employers.
Personally no. I deliberately chose which airport I currently work at having spent time at the three alternatives.
Publicly I will always defend Gatwick. If I were to post something negative about it in a public forum, I would reasonably expect some form of disciplinary action.
I have no issue with this status quo as the personal and public are pretty well aligned ;)
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I have flown numerous times from Gatwick and I must say it is a great airport with it being better than Heathrow :y
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It's a bastid of a place to get to though! ::) :P
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It's a bastid of a place to get to though! ::) :P
Not for me, Gatwick Express from Blackwater station straight to Gatwick station. :y
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Where they are blaming a power supply failure, I would expect dual redundant systems in different physical locations for such crucial infrastructure. A man with a whiteboard who turns up a few hours later is not a credible backup! ::) :o :o :o
Didn't anybody tell the directors, that 'hope' is not a strategy, but a disaster waiting to happen? ::) :-[ :-[ :-[
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Agree. You can bet next week they will have the best there is.
I dare say tomorrow the news will be full of folk who experienced the usual " nothing from the company explaining what was happening".
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It's a bastid of a place to get to though! ::) :P
Doesn't count... Anywhere east of Poole is a bastid for you to get to ::)
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It's a bastid of a place to get to though! ::) :P
True....
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It's a bastid of a place to get to though! ::) :P
True....
Pish... You've got no excuse... at least four direct flights a day from Newquay ::)
* you probably live five minutes from Plymouth, so Newquay might be harder to get too :D
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It's a bastid of a place to get to though! ::) :P
That's it's biggest problem... ...and for most, at the mercy of how the londonium ring road is feeling.
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How strange that no-one from BA has been interviewed about this. Could it be that no-one wants to answer the question: "Was this a cyber attack?" with a lie?
Having worked for them for 20 years, I would be very, very, surprised if their systems did not have back-ups for backups for backups, and so the line, that it was caused by a power failure, does not have the ring of veracity to it. :-X
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Wouldn't like to say... that said they are running all but one flight from Gatwick today, which highlights he contrast between their two London bases ::)
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Do we know if power surge was in India or not? Cannot believe back up systems not fit for purpose. CEO has to go. This is bad management whichever way you look at it?
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Union rep (I know) just been on the news and stated categorically that, if the IT hadn't been outsourced, this problem would have been fixed 'within minutes '.
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Union rep (I know) just been on the news and stated categorically that, if the IT hadn't been outsourced, this problem would have been fixed 'within minutes '.
Which is what the whole world already knew, but our media is being sensitive about it.
Its been on the cards since they made all their own IT staff redundant 18 months ago, as I said previously. And until it comes back in house, it WILL happen again. Outsourcing IT never works. It never has. It never will.
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Union rep (I know) just been on the news and stated categorically that, if the IT hadn't been outsourced, this problem would have been fixed 'within minutes '.
Which is what the whole world already knew, but our media is being sensitive about it.
Its been on the cards since they made all their own IT staff redundant 18 months ago, as I said previously. And until it comes back in house, it WILL happen again. Outsourcing IT never works. It never has. It never will.
Yep, seen it plenty of times now, been on the poor end of it as well, usually see adverts about 12 - 18 months later for 'building a new team of focused professionals blah blah blah'
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Two enlightening things..
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/6e1gb5/british_airways_boss_tries_to_gag_staff_on_it/di7awy8/
And this .. yes, this is a realistic representation of how emails come in from +91, as it's known around here:
https://ibb.co/dPGw3F
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Two enlightening things..
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/6e1gb5/british_airways_boss_tries_to_gag_staff_on_it/di7awy8/
And this .. yes, this is a realistic representation of how emails come in from +91, as it's known around here:
https://ibb.co/dPGw3F
LOL. As you'd expect, we have a lot of dealings with offshore (or bestshore, as a previous employer used to refer to India), both our own people and various other outsourcers.
We always reply to each other (in the UK), "please do the needful and revert in any case"
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Sounds like the Indian server maintenance team are fully trained and ready for their next job. To test turning off the cooling water in an Indian nuclear reactor and then in their own time dropping the carbon control rods to stop in overheating and meltdown. That worked perfectly at Chernobyl, in 1986, when it was tried. :o :o :o
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Two enlightening things..
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/6e1gb5/british_airways_boss_tries_to_gag_staff_on_it/di7awy8/
And this .. yes, this is a realistic representation of how emails come in from +91, as it's known around here:
https://ibb.co/dPGw3F
LOL. As you'd expect, we have a lot of dealings with offshore (or bestshore, as a previous employer used to refer to India), both our own people and various other outsourcers.
We always reply to each other (in the UK), "please do the needful and revert in any case"
My other half had an email from a conveyancing solicitor a while back that ended with "We will revert to you at our earliest" .. I shuddered!
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What is this language? They are using English words but it makes sod all sense. ::)
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Maybe it's just me? ::)
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/revert (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/revert)
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Maybe it's just me? ::)
dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/revert (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/revert)
Nope, it has firmly entered the lexicon of the accountancy firms and consultants (never ones to miss out on a new type of bullsh!t to purvey). Rubs me up the wrong way just as much as the management speak they all indulge in.
Interesting blog post about its use and spread here (albeit from an American source):
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/06/magazine/06FOB-onlanguage-t.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/06/magazine/06FOB-onlanguage-t.html)
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I must try to keep up. I'm still sneering at retards who start sentences with "So". ::)
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Thank you for introducing me to that ghastly use of 'revert', as I hadn't come across it before >:(
In the same vein, what halfwit made 'gifted' instead of 'given' so popular?
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I must try to keep up. I'm still sneering at retards who start sentences with "So". ::)
So what's wrong with that? ::) ;D
It really gets my goat when people start sentences with "Yes, no......" or "Yeah, no...." ::) Ficking retards! :-X ;D
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I must try to keep up. I'm still sneering at retards who start sentences with "So". ::)
So what's wrong with that? ::) ;D
It really gets my goat when people start sentences with "Yes, no......" or "Yeah, no...." ::) Ficking retards! :-X ;D
Yep, them too. All of 'em, up against the wall when TheBoy gets his act together. :y
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So we'll know when TB has outsourced OOF maintenance to India as the thread 'Reply' button will change to 'Revert' ::) ::) ::) ::)
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I must try to keep up. I'm still sneering at retards who start sentences with "So". ::)
So what's wrong with that? ::) ;D
It really gets my goat when people start sentences with "Yes, no......" or "Yeah, no...." ::) Ficking retards! :-X ;D
Yep, them too. All of 'em, up against the wall when TheBoy gets CBA. :y
Fixed :D
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So we'll know when TB has outsourced OOF maintenance to India as the thread 'Reply' button will change to 'Revert' ::) ::) ::) ::)
If I was an admin here .. that would definitely be happening ;D ;D
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So we'll know when TB has outsourced OOF maintenance to India as the thread 'Reply' button will change to 'Revert' ::) ::) ::) ::)
If I was an admin here .. that would definitely be happening ;D ;D
Together with people that say "If I was admin here..." instead of "If I were admin here..." :P
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So we'll know when TB has outsourced OOF maintenance to India as the thread 'Reply' button will change to 'Revert' ::) ::) ::) ::)
If I was an admin here .. that would definitely be happening ;D ;D
The thought crossed my mind yesterday, but it turns out the button is an image, then a huge moment of CBA took over....