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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 February 2018, 11:55:33
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I've lent my Mondeo to a mate who lives in the Philippines while he's here visiting for a month. :)
Today in the post I've had a 'Parking Charge Notice' from Parking Eye for £70 where he's parked in an Aldi car park in Romsey. He was parked for 30 minutes! ::)
I've just phoned Aldi who have told me that there is a terminal in which he should have put the reg no in for free parking for Aldi customers or otherwise it's a Pay and Display. ::) They said we can challenge the ticket but will need to send receipts to prove he was shopping there! ::)
I think I might just email them to tell them that my mate was driving and give them his address in the Philippines! :)
Am I right in thinking that I can't just ignore this as the law has changed? ??? Webby had one recently I think? :-\
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Just fill out the driver's details, and say he had hired the the car.
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That's my thoughts exactly! Let them chase him in the Philippines! :y
If I do that though, any come back on me as the registered keeper? :-\
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That's my thoughts exactly! Let them chase him in the Philippines! :y
If I do that though, any come back on me as the registered keeper? :-\
Yes. You’re not allowed to ‘hire’ your car out.
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You should also know from previous postings that you don’t just ignore these things.
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https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/reclaim/private-parking-tickets#fight
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You should also know from previous postings that you don’t just ignore these things.
Quite.
Everyone feels outrage and looks for a way to wriggle out, but very often it's best and sometimes cheaper to just pay up. I had a flat in London with a parking space that I had paid for, I got fined for not displaying a permit, after really looking into why I got fined for using my own parking space, I just coughed up. Aldi and Lidl are both very clear about the need to enter the car reg when leaving, together with a scan of the QR code on the till reciept. There really isn't much of an excuse. You can thank the people who use the car park but shop elsewhere for this.
Your mate owes you £70 ::)
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Then again, the contract by which this demand is being made can only be created between the little hitlers who administer the car park and whoever was at the wheel of the car on the day. This wasn't Sir Tigger QC, so he's not liable.
If his mate in the Philippines CBA to pay, it's Aldi's problem.
No need to mention hire, etc. Fact is, someone else was driving, so someone else incurred the fine.
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I've lent my Mondeo to a mate who lives in the Philippines while he's here visiting for a month. :)
Today in the post I've had a 'Parking Charge Notice' from Parking Eye for £70 where he's parked in an Aldi car park in Romsey. He was parked for 30 minutes! ::)
I've just phoned Aldi who have told me that there is a terminal in which he should have put the reg no in for free parking for Aldi customers or otherwise it's a Pay and Display. ::) They said we can challenge the ticket but will need to send receipts to prove he was shopping there! ::)
I think I might just email them to tell them that my mate was driving and give them his address in the Philippines! :)
Am I right in thinking that I can't just ignore this as the law has changed? ??? Webby had one recently I think? :-\
I had this.
Simply tell the manager your friend was shopping there at the time of the ticket.
In my case the manager simply produced an old till receipt for that time which was used as evidence for the crooks at Parking Eye.
The car was parked while Mrs Opti was having her hair cut (didn't actually shop at Aldi) but the manager was not to know. :)
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Been there, done that, got the Lidl T Shirt
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=135939.0;all
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Look on the second sheet of the PCN 'Protection of Freedoms Act'. It states that after 29 days you are warned that if it's not paid in full or you have not given them the drivers correct name and address, they will claim from you. In this case, you WILL be giving them the correct details, so I would go for it and give your mates address in the Philippines.
Coincidentally, I have a PCN from Parking Eye in my possession for staying in Morrisons car park for too long. I emailed Morrisons, with my reason of why I had overstayed the time limit and Morrisons very kindly overruled the fine for me. :y I showed no receipts but we were genuinely in their store.
Next time, make sure that a sheet of paper accidentally blows across your front number plate on the way in to the car park, as when you leave six hours later, a car which technically never entered the car park has just left. ;D
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That's my thoughts exactly! Let them chase him in the Philippines! :y
If I do that though, any come back on me as the registered keeper? :-\
Yes. You’re not allowed to ‘hire’ your car out.
I havn't hired the car to him, I've lent it to him. He's on my insurance and is driving it legally. :y
I had a quick look at Aldi Romsey on Google Images and if I have the right shop there are 2 ticket machines and Parking Eye signage right by the entrance, so I don't think he has a leg to stand on really! ::)
Anyway, I've spoken to him and he dosn't have any receipts, so he either coughs up the £40 or relies on them not chasing him in the Philippines! :)
Look on the second sheet of the PCN 'Protection of Freedoms Act'. It states that after 29 days you are warned that if it's not paid in full or you have not given them the drivers correct name and address, they will claim from you. In this case, you WILL be giving them the correct details, so I would go for it and give your mates address in the Philippines.
Yes, there's nothing on the PCN about having to have a UK address. So I think as long as I give them his correct contact address, I should be OK. :y
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Reality is that it is very difficult to impossible to get money owed from somebody in a third party country when the debt was not incurred there, so they won't bother. The worst that can happen is they don't believe you and try to claim from you as the registered keeper. The fact you have it documented as an insured driver means that you have proof you lent your car legally to them. :y :y :y
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That's my thoughts exactly! Let them chase him in the Philippines! :y
If I do that though, any come back on me as the registered keeper? :-\
Yes. You’re not allowed to ‘hire’ your car out.
I havn't hired the car to him, I've lent it to him. He's on my insurance and is driving it legally. :y
In answer to biggriffin’s “ say he hired the car”, your answer was “My thoughts exactly” :P
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That's my thoughts exactly! Let them chase him in the Philippines! :y
If I do that though, any come back on me as the registered keeper? :-\
Yes. You’re not allowed to ‘hire’ your car out.
I havn't hired the car to him, I've lent it to him. He's on my insurance and is driving it legally. :y
In answer to biggriffin’s “ say he hired the car”, your answer was “My thoughts exactly” :P
I refer you to my original post. ::) :P
I've lent my Mondeo to a mate who lives in the Philippines while he's here visiting for a month. :)
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That's my thoughts exactly! Let them chase him in the Philippines! :y
If I do that though, any come back on me as the registered keeper? :-\
Yes. You’re not allowed to ‘hire’ your car out.
I havn't hired the car to him, I've lent it to him. He's on my insurance and is driving it legally. :y
In answer to biggriffin’s “ say he hired the car”, your answer was “My thoughts exactly” :P
I refer you to my original post. ::) :P
I've lent my Mondeo to a mate who lives in the Philippines while he's here visiting for a month. :)
Just pay the fine, yer fickin criminal. >:(
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That's my thoughts exactly! Let them chase him in the Philippines! :y
If I do that though, any come back on me as the registered keeper? :-\
Yes. You’re not allowed to ‘hire’ your car out.
I havn't hired the car to him, I've lent it to him. He's on my insurance and is driving it legally. :y
In answer to biggriffin’s “ say he hired the car”, your answer was “My thoughts exactly” :P
I refer you to my original post. ::) :P
I've lent my Mondeo to a mate who lives in the Philippines while he's here visiting for a month. :)
Just pay the fine, yer fickin criminal. >:(
Not guilty yer honah! ;D
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That's my thoughts exactly! Let them chase him in the Philippines! :y
If I do that though, any come back on me as the registered keeper? :-\
Yes. You’re not allowed to ‘hire’ your car out.
I havn't hired the car to him, I've lent it to him. He's on my insurance and is driving it legally. :y
In answer to biggriffin’s “ say he hired the car”, your answer was “My thoughts exactly” :P
I refer you to my original post. ::) :P
I've lent my Mondeo to a mate who lives in the Philippines while he's here visiting for a month. :)
Just pay the fine, yer fickin criminal. >:(
Not guilty yer honah! ;D
Hmmm.....a resident of Liverpool calling a a resident of 'Darzett' a fuc*ing criminal. Whatever next? ::)
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Any chance of uploading your mates address
I`ll be watching Pompey lose to Doncaster Rovers in the afternoon & parking is a bitch ;D
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That's my thoughts exactly! Let them chase him in the Philippines! :y
If I do that though, any come back on me as the registered keeper? :-\
This page sums up the various options :
http://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/keeper-liability/
Basically, if you nominate the driver then that discharges any liability on the keeper. The Parking Scammers should then start chasing the person you nominate. I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if the scammers are very used to people nominating foreign drivers in an attempt to avoid parking charges. If they simply dropped all such cases then by now everyone would just be naming someone abroad in order to get off.
This is civil law, not criminal, so the burden of proof is "on the balance of probability" not "beyond reasonable doubt". If the Scammers decide it's easier to persecute you rather than chase someone abroad, then my guess is that is exactly what they will do. If that happens then you'll get bombarded with threats, eventually ending with a 'summons' to court. If you don't turn up, you'll lose. If you do turn up then you'll have to convince the court that "on the balance of probability" you were not the driver.
The Scammers have 6 (Six) years to commence proceedings in court. Make sure you keep all the evidence in a safe place till that time is up.
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The one thing in Tiggers favour would be that he added his friend to his insurance policy for the short time he was here, so he could prove he wasn’t a figment of his imagination.
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Six years seems an unreasonable and unfair period of time to keep someone waiting for resolution, especially as in most cases the person is likely to be innocent. >:(
Ron.
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Tesco in Chelmsford city centre is much the same and the machine you type into is very dim witted and slow.
Hopefully it’s not worth them pursuing if they have to send fines that far, Royal Mail charge a fortune to go that far!
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If your mate is driving your car on your insurance then if you informed your insurance company of that fact somewhere would you have proof of those dates and therefore could supply not on his address but also your insurance dates to prove it then they can chase him all of that distance. :D :D
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If your mate is driving your car on your insurance then if you informed your insurance company of that fact somewhere would you have proof of those dates and therefore could supply not on his address but also your insurance dates to prove it then they can chase him all of that distance. :D :D
There’s an echo in here.
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And if it works, ypou can use that excuse even when he is back home and you are the miscreant - how will they ever know? ;D
Ron.
Oh, provided that he is still on your insurance, of course.
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Any chance of uploading your mates address
I`ll be watching Pompey lose to Doncaster Rovers in the afternoon & parking is a bitch ;D
Tell them you lent your car to your mate Don who lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC, 20500-003, USA. :D
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Any chance of uploading your mates address
I`ll be watching Pompey lose to Doncaster Rovers in the afternoon & parking is a bitch ;D
Tell them you lent your car to your mate Don who lives at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Washington DC, 20500-003, USA. :D
Old ginger pubes can park wherever he likes. ;)
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2 great minds then stemo ;D ;D
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I emailed Aldi yesterday explaining the circumstances and asked them to cancel the ticket.
Aldi have replied today saying that as a gesture of goodwill they will instruct Parking Eye to cancel the ticket! :y
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Result :y :y