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Title: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 12:25:17
I know a few OOF members spend ages trawling through specs of PC components, so was after a favour, as I am too busy to do so myself presently  :'(

I'm after a motherboard, meeting following spec:
Core2 Duo compatible
mATX format, with a specific slot layout, 16x PCI-e - doesn't matter - PCI-e - PCI
At least 5.1 integrated audio, with both optical and copper SPD/IF out
1 x SATA
1 x IDE
4 x Front panel USB
1 x Front panel Firewire
Gigabit NIC (ideally, but 100Mb will do)


Post up any contenders!
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: Plomien on 10 August 2008, 12:33:42
XFX do a nice range of motherboards, what is your budget?
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 12:36:45
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XFX do a nice range of motherboards, what is your budget?
Budget not a problem, but no need to pay extra for things I don't need, such as raid, SLI and so on.

Ideally, a heatsink, rather than fans on Northbridge/MCH.

Overclocking will not be used at all, stability is crucial.
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: Plomien on 10 August 2008, 12:40:28
I have been running an XFX MB for almost 2 years and not had an issue but it is SLI but if you have a PCIe then you can run it with 1 card anyway.
http://www.xfxforce.com/en-gb/Shop.aspx
here is a list of shops that stock them just see what you like,
Asus are also good as well as MSI

oh and what memory I assume DDR2?
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 12:43:31
I would never run Asus boards, too unstable.

I generally would only use Intel branded boards, but struggling to find an Intel that matches my needs.
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: Plomien on 10 August 2008, 12:46:37
http://www.dabs.com/productlist.aspx?&NavigationKey=11143&NavigationKey=405070000&NavigationKey=50544&CategorySelectedId=11143&PageMode=1

I would recommend going for:

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4XJ5&CategorySelectedId=11143&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11143,405070000,50544

or
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=50J3&CategorySelectedId=11143&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11143,405070000,50544


for intel boards
http://www.dabs.com/productlist.aspx?&NavigationKey=11143&NavigationKey=405070000&NavigationKey=50520&CategorySelectedId=11143&PageMode=1
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 12:52:59
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http://www.dabs.com/productlist.aspx?&NavigationKey=11143&NavigationKey=405070000&NavigationKey=50544&CategorySelectedId=11143&PageMode=1

I would recommend going for:

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4XJ5&CategorySelectedId=11143&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11143,405070000,50544

or
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=50J3&CategorySelectedId=11143&PageMode=1&NavigationKey=11143,405070000,50544


for intel boards
http://www.dabs.com/productlist.aspx?&NavigationKey=11143&NavigationKey=405070000&NavigationKey=50520&CategorySelectedId=11143&PageMode=1
Both XFX fail to meet specs - I need mATX with the specific slot layout...
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 10 August 2008, 12:56:26
Just had a look myself, there are plenty that meet your spec, but not with that specific slot layout  :'(

Presumably you have already bought the case for it, hence the need for the specific layout?

PM sent, btw.
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 13:14:45
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Just had a look myself, there are plenty that meet your spec, but not with that specific slot layout  :'(

Presumably you have already bought the case for it, hence the need for the specific layout?

PM sent, btw.
Yes, existing case, needs a bit more grunt than its existing P4 can provide.
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: Plomien on 10 August 2008, 14:02:38
http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=608479
gigabyte are good my old PC is still running on the board I got 6 years ago

MSI fantastic boards
http://www.lambda-tek.com/computing/pcdesigner.htm

Intel one for you
http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase9.2&prodID=B54183

foxconn
http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase9.2&prodID=B76997
supposed to be ok
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 14:09:32
Gigabyte - like most of their stuff doesn't follow ATX slot layout, missing the first slot, with th others over one.

MSI - link not working

Intel - need to check more, but I think I have seen that one before and it doesn't have SPD/IF

Foxconn - will investigate further. Slightly concerned with foxconn reliability, but not the worse :y
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 14:25:58
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Gigabyte - like most of their stuff doesn't follow ATX slot layout, missing the first slot, with th others over one.

MSI - link not working

Intel - need to check more, but I think I have seen that one before and it doesn't have SPD/IF

Foxconn - will investigate further. Slightly concerned with foxconn reliability, but not the worse :y
foxconn - no firewire :(
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: Plomien on 10 August 2008, 14:27:35
msi stuff
http://www.google.co.uk/products?hl=en&q=msi+matx&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: Admin on 10 August 2008, 16:53:32
Rather than spending all this time trying to find a board that has the specific layout, why not simply change the case??

You are looking for a board that seems to be very difficult to obtain so common sense says change the case and you will find a board that suits less specific needs.

Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 17:15:44
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Rather than spending all this time trying to find a board that has the specific layout, why not simply change the case??

You are looking for a board that seems to be very difficult to obtain so common sense says change the case and you will find a board that suits less specific needs.

Changing the case is not an option ;)
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: theolodian on 10 August 2008, 17:16:55
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Rather than spending all this time trying to find a board that has the specific layout, why not simply change the case??

You are looking for a board that seems to be very difficult to obtain so common sense says change the case and you will find a board that suits less specific needs.

Changing the case is not an option ;)
Then stop being a lazy wimp and fix the motherboard that you have!  :P ;D
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 17:18:16
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Rather than spending all this time trying to find a board that has the specific layout, why not simply change the case??

You are looking for a board that seems to be very difficult to obtain so common sense says change the case and you will find a board that suits less specific needs.

Changing the case is not an option ;)
Then stop being a lazy wimp and fix the motherboard that you have!  :P ;D
The existing mobo works fine, but only takes P4, which is getting a bit long in the tooth now, and is struggling slightly with the workload it has...
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: theolodian on 10 August 2008, 17:20:06
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Rather than spending all this time trying to find a board that has the specific layout, why not simply change the case??

You are looking for a board that seems to be very difficult to obtain so common sense says change the case and you will find a board that suits less specific needs.

Changing the case is not an option ;)
Then stop being a lazy wimp and fix the motherboard that you have!  :P ;D
The existing mobo works fine, but only takes P4, which is getting a bit long in the tooth now, and is struggling slightly with the workload it has...
So get a better faster computer and remote into it from that one.  ::) :D
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: Plomien on 10 August 2008, 17:20:36
fairly sure you can get USB to firewire adapters
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 17:22:02
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Rather than spending all this time trying to find a board that has the specific layout, why not simply change the case??

You are looking for a board that seems to be very difficult to obtain so common sense says change the case and you will find a board that suits less specific needs.

Changing the case is not an option ;)
Then stop being a lazy wimp and fix the motherboard that you have!  :P ;D
The existing mobo works fine, but only takes P4, which is getting a bit long in the tooth now, and is struggling slightly with the workload it has...
So get a better faster computer and remote into it from that one.  ::) :D
Nope, that won't work ;)
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: Plomien on 10 August 2008, 17:22:50
http://computers.shop.ebay.co.uk/items/Firewire__W0QQ_nkwZfirewireQ20toQ20usbQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZComputingQQ_pcatsZ31491Q2c58058QQ_sacatZ31493

was right you can
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 17:25:02
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fairly sure you can get USB to firewire adapters
Used to be mega bucks though, and not that stable.  I'd be much happier with firewire directly on the board...
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 17:26:57
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http://computers.shop.ebay.co.uk/items/Firewire__W0QQ_nkwZfirewireQ20toQ20usbQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_mdoZComputingQQ_pcatsZ31491Q2c58058QQ_sacatZ31493

was right you can
They aren't adapters, just leads ;)
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: theolodian on 10 August 2008, 17:30:27
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fairly sure you can get USB to firewire adapters
Used to be mega bucks though, and not that stable.  I'd be much happier with firewire directly on the board...
Even the expensive PCI cards are under 20 quid, isn't that good enough?  7.1 surround cards are under 20 as well.
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 17:31:44
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fairly sure you can get USB to firewire adapters
Used to be mega bucks though, and not that stable.  I'd be much happier with firewire directly on the board...
Even the expensive PCI cards are under 20 quid, isn't that good enough?  7.1 surround cards are under 20 as well.
No spare slots for extra PCI cards.
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: theolodian on 10 August 2008, 17:33:19
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fairly sure you can get USB to firewire adapters
Used to be mega bucks though, and not that stable.  I'd be much happier with firewire directly on the board...
Even the expensive PCI cards are under 20 quid, isn't that good enough?  7.1 surround cards are under 20 as well.
No spare slots for extra PCI cards.
Your creations are worse than Macs!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: Jimbob on 10 August 2008, 21:32:35
Guessing this is the media centre...

I can only recommend your disliked Asus boards.

Only used em with AMD though, and the golden rule there was to go for the nvidia chipsets, not the via shite.
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 21:40:01
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Guessing this is the media centre...

I can only recommend your disliked Asus boards.

Only used em with AMD though, and the golden rule there was to go for the nvidia chipsets, not the via shite.
Had too many experiences with Asus boards.  Got a few P4 ones here somewhere, if I haven't already thrown them out ;D

I would prefer, if poss, to stick with Intel chipset...
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 10 August 2008, 22:16:17
old Asus boards may have problems..in the past I see some..

But now in home one asus board (new model) is working day and night to record 2 cameras 7 * 24 .. And the DVR card is chinese ..

And trust me its too hot here (room temperature nearly 35-36 Celcius now)..

The only good thing is this board is after a 2.5 KW UPS..

Never had a problem..


ps: PSU also is special design  500 watt slient type.. Have a slow

turning big fan..

Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 10 August 2008, 22:18:39
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old Asus boards may have problems..in the past I see some..

But now in home one asus board (new model) is working day and night to record 2 cameras 7 * 24 .. And the DVR card is chinese ..

And trust me its too hot here (room temperature nearly 35-36 Celcius now)..

The only good thing is this board is after a 2.5 KW UPS..

Never had a problem..




Good to know, although I lost confidence, maybe I should give them another go :y
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: willyboy on 12 August 2008, 21:04:54
Built a few pc's over the years Gigabyte mainly[Many extras on them]
Asrock cheapo bought one to use as budget pc it was one of a few with agp & pcie Graphic cards slots on it also runs ddr & ddr2 memory well i still use it almost 2 yrs of hard gaming on it was less than £40 even then its been rock solid Via chipset though but checkout there products
 
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=775Dual-VSTA&s=Intel
What you need firewire for ? thought usb 2.0 was as fast now !

Finally running Asus P5N-E now too I feel its a really good product you must have had some lemons its about 8mths old & not a blipadmitedly uses Nforce chipsets i'm afraid :-/
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2008, 21:09:26
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Built a few pc's over the years Gigabyte mainly[Many extras on them]
Asrock cheapo bought one to use as budget pc it was one of a few with agp & pcie Graphic cards slots on it also runs ddr & ddr2 memory well i still use it almost 2 yrs of hard gaming on it was less than £40 even then its been rock solid Via chipset though but checkout there products
 
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=775Dual-VSTA&s=Intel
What you need firewire for ? thought usb 2.0 was as fast now !

Finally running Asus P5N-E now too I feel its a really good product you must have had some lemons its about 8mths old & not a blipadmitedly uses Nforce chipsets i'm afraid :-/
Its likely I can't use gigabyte due to their inability to follow the ATX spec :( - I have a very specific slot layout I need as per original thread.

Firewire needed.


Sounds like nobody has come across a board matching my requirements  :'(
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: willyboy on 12 August 2008, 21:12:08
Get another case ?
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2008, 21:13:43
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Get another case ?
Nope, not an option.
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: willyboy on 12 August 2008, 21:37:54
You probably looked here
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=5&subid=326
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2008, 21:40:52
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You probably looked here
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=5&subid=326
Wrong slot layout on those Asus, Gigabit, as previously said, don't follow ATX/mATX standards, so cannot be used for this application.
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2008, 21:43:12
Actually, some of those gigabyte ones do follow ATX standards :o but wrong slot layout.
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 12 August 2008, 21:43:54
a new psu dont solve the problem ?
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: willyboy on 12 August 2008, 21:52:07
Am still searching TB   ::) this is close ?

http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase12.2&prodID=B83522
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 12 August 2008, 21:54:41
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Am still searching TB   ::) this is close ?

http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase12.2&prodID=B83522

That wont be anygood, it takes an AM2, probably gay in TB's book.   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: willyboy on 12 August 2008, 21:55:46
Sry just noticed its dual core  not  core duo  doh ! strugglin :-[
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 12 August 2008, 22:01:30
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Sry just noticed its dual core  not  core duo  doh ! strugglin :-[

You set me off now

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=5&subid=1057

I am ready for a new board, saw a Gigabyte board with quad lan on the other day, 10 Sata, 12 Usb.  

Just trying to work out which is the best chip set to go for
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: willyboy on 12 August 2008, 22:01:57
Looks like finding one with all the needs is a prob the Asrock is great but no firewire  :-[

As is this  no firewire !!
Abit motherboard LG-95C LGA775 i945GC Core 2 Duo integrated VGA HD 7.1CH Audio micro ATX Motherboard
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: willyboy on 12 August 2008, 22:05:48
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Sry just noticed its dual core  not  core duo  doh ! strugglin :-[

You set me off now

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701&catid=5&subid=1057

I am ready for a new board, saw a Gigabyte board with quad lan on the other day, 10 Sata, 12 Usb.  

Just trying to work out which is the best chip set to go for


Depends what you wanna do with it overclock etc i never bother anymore & to be honest the latest chipsets are all really pretty good

Plus I wont pay too much for one i reckon £60 is tops for my needs there are some good ones for that price
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: willyboy on 12 August 2008, 22:14:42
http://www.stuff-uk.net/?s=ST-BOXDG35EC

Last one  night ! ::)
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2008, 22:19:46
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Am still searching TB   ::) this is close ?

http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase12.2&prodID=B83522
Good slot layout, wrong cpu.
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2008, 22:20:35
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Am still searching TB   ::) this is close ?

http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase12.2&prodID=B83522

That wont be anygood, it takes an AM2, probably gay in TB's book.   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yup, Athlon/Athlon64/Opteron = gay
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2008, 22:23:17
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http://www.stuff-uk.net/?s=ST-BOXDG35EC

Last one  night ! ::)
Intel board would be my preference, due to non stop stability and reliability.

Sadly, like the one you picked out, I can't find one with SPD/IF  :'(
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 12 August 2008, 22:23:26
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Am still searching TB   ::) this is close ?

http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase12.2&prodID=B83522

That wont be anygood, it takes an AM2, probably gay in TB's book.   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yup, Athlon/Athlon64/Opteron = gay


When's it go to print.

The Gay Book of Wot Not's to Buy.

Auther: TheBoy
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: TheBoy on 12 August 2008, 22:26:25
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Am still searching TB   ::) this is close ?

http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase12.2&prodID=B83522

That wont be anygood, it takes an AM2, probably gay in TB's book.   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yup, Athlon/Athlon64/Opteron = gay


When's it go to print.

The Gay Book of Wot Not's to Buy.

Auther: TheBoy
I thought Debs, my Ghost Writer, was collating the gay list
Title: Re: New Motherboard needed
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 12 August 2008, 22:28:07
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Am still searching TB   ::) this is close ?

http://www.lambda-tek.com/componentshop/index.pl?origin=gbase12.2&prodID=B83522

That wont be anygood, it takes an AM2, probably gay in TB's book.   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yup, Athlon/Athlon64/Opteron = gay


When's it go to print.

The Gay Book of Wot Not's to Buy.

Auther: TheBoy
I thought Debs, my Ghost Writer, was collating the gay list

Wondered why Debs wasnt spending much time on the OOF recently.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D