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Title: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: tunnie on 15 August 2008, 22:12:53
Was running late, so got to the train just seconds before it left, got a seat at a table of 4.

Train had the new laptop friendly tables fitted with pull out thingys, and power points, i had to use the lappy too.

Train was packed, some were standing. Air-con was very weak, I was hot and sweaty all the way back. Was sqaushed in by a rather large bloke next to me, some 3 kids or so futher down the carriage screaming their heads off  >:(

Needed to get home quick problems, having in Singapore and i am on call  >:(, had the worse driver... usually train comes quick into the station, but she braked miles away, and we slooooly came in. I know for a fact no trains were ahead, just her crap skills with the brake.


Got into my car...

Ahh Space :)

Ahh my personal choice of music. :)

Ahh yes, lets set the climate to 20, ahh yes, thats nice and cool. :)

Humm driving along, the ride is smoother than the train too!


All from a car worth just 1k!
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: TheBoy on 15 August 2008, 22:15:46
What makes it worse, is your train is the infamous Chiltern Slug, the only train company that is always late (though their definition of late is more than 10m late).

A travelcard from Banbury to the smoke is £59 per day. Cheaper for me to drive in, park, and pay congestion charge.  Quicker too.
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 15 August 2008, 22:18:49
I pay £276/month between Cardiff and Cheltenham for an unrestricted season. Regular service, not often a delay.

Rarely stuck for a seat (two to myself) too

:y
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: bappy on 15 August 2008, 22:18:56
I need to train to work for a week. between me and my carshare it came to 17 quid a day. 1 hour on the train and a 40 minute walk from the station.

the mv6 costs 13 quid a day in petrol and the journey door-to-door with no walking is 35 mins.

screw the trains!
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: Kevin Wood on 15 August 2008, 22:20:21
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Train was packed, some were standing. Air-con was very weak, I was hot and sweaty all the way back. Was sqaushed in by a rather large bloke next to me, some 3 kids or so futher down the carriage screaming their heads off

Just had 9 hours of the above thanks to BA. >:(

Kevin
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: STMO123 on 15 August 2008, 22:26:37
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What makes it worse, is your train is the infamous Chiltern Slug, the only train company that is always late (though their definition of late is more than 10m late).

A travelcard from Banbury to the smoke is £59 per day. Cheaper for me to drive in, park, and pay congestion charge.  Quicker too.

I used the Chiltern Line once. Marylebone to Beaconsfield. Thought it was quite a nice journey. Mind you, it was 11 o'clock.
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: tunnie on 15 August 2008, 22:40:20
In general i rate Chiltern Trains very well, they are late yes, in 14 months of commuting generally on time.

They are limited by the very tight track. Trains are slow, better if they could be faster.

In total it costs me £460 a month.

£379 odd for the train with tube (unlimted travel that month), £80 for car parking for the month.

Compared to Southwest trains, where its a shorter distance by 30 odd miles, chiltern is a LOT faster. First Great Western suck, as trains go they aint bad, but no train in the UK will be the car.
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: bertiecbx550 on 16 August 2008, 01:16:15
My dad used to a train driver 39 yrs in total from fireman to steam driver to diesel and leccy loco until he developed a heart condition and was relegated to shunting in oxley sheds from top link main line driver and then took voluntary redundacy and retirement....i`ve never travelled on the railways since i was 16(we used to get free passes) .....its just a pity that a succession of govts have let them go to wrack and ruin over the years through neglect..... :'( :'(
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: Vamps on 16 August 2008, 01:40:08
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In general i rate Chiltern Trains very well, they are late yes, in 14 months of commuting generally on time.

They are limited by the very tight track. Trains are slow, better if they could be faster.

In total it costs me £460 a month.

£379 odd for the train with tube (unlimted travel that month), £80 for car parking for the month.

Compared to Southwest trains, where its a shorter distance by 30 odd miles, chiltern is a LOT faster. First Great Western suck, as trains go they aint bad, but no train in the UK will be the car.

Blimy, that's nearly my mortgage payment, pleased i live in the North :y
Commuting costs me about £60 per month in the Citroen and as long as I do a few miles each day for work it covers my commuting costs, an no car parking charges either, at the office. ;D ;D ;D
Last train I was on was steam powered :y Last bus I was on I was driving. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: CaptainZok on 16 August 2008, 02:40:55
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In general i rate Chiltern Trains very well, they are late yes, in 14 months of commuting generally on time.

They are limited by the very tight track. Trains are slow, better if they could be faster.

In total it costs me £460 a month.

£379 odd for the train with tube (unlimted travel that month), £80 for car parking for the month.

Compared to Southwest trains, where its a shorter distance by 30 odd miles, chiltern is a LOT faster. First Great Western suck, as trains go they aint bad, but no train in the UK will be the car.

Blimy, that's nearly my mortgage payment, pleased i live in the North :y
Commuting costs me about £60 per month in the Citroen and as long as I do a few miles each day for work it covers my commuting costs, an no car parking charges either, at the office. ;D ;D ;D
Last train I was on was steam powered :y Last bus I was on I was driving. ;D ;D ;D

I wondered what happened to Reg Varney, or are you Blakey?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 August 2008, 02:51:30
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In general i rate Chiltern Trains very well, they are late yes, in 14 months of commuting generally on time.

They are limited by the very tight track. Trains are slow, better if they could be faster.

In total it costs me £460 a month.

£379 odd for the train with tube (unlimted travel that month), £80 for car parking for the month.

Compared to Southwest trains, where its a shorter distance by 30 odd miles, chiltern is a LOT faster. First Great Western suck, as trains go they aint bad, but no train in the UK will be the car.

Blimy, that's nearly my mortgage payment, pleased i live in the North :y
Commuting costs me about £60 per month in the Citroen and as long as I do a few miles each day for work it covers my commuting costs, an no car parking charges either, at the office. ;D ;D ;D
Last train I was on was steam powered :y Last bus I was on I was driving. ;D ;D ;D

I wondered what happened to Reg Varney, or are you Blakey?  ;D ;D

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0890118/
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 August 2008, 02:52:17
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Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: FRE07962128 on 16 August 2008, 05:17:29
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Was running late, so got to the train just seconds before it left, got a seat at a table of 4.

Train had the new laptop friendly tables fitted with pull out thingys, and power points, i had to use the lappy too.

Train was packed, some were standing. Air-con was very weak, I was hot and sweaty all the way back. Was sqaushed in by a rather large bloke next to me, some 3 kids or so futher down the carriage screaming their heads off  >:(

Needed to get home quick problems, having in Singapore and i am on call  >:(, had the worse driver... usually train comes quick into the station, but she braked miles away, and we slooooly came in. I know for a fact no trains were ahead, just her crap skills with the brake.


Got into my car...

Ahh Space :)

Ahh my personal choice of music. :)

Ahh yes, lets set the climate to 20, ahh yes, thats nice and cool. :)

Humm driving along, the ride is smoother than the train too!


All from a car worth just 1k!

What do you mean "HER"!! :o :o :o  

Typical; if any form of transport isn't running correctly then it must be a woman driving! ::) ::) ::)  Bloody cheek! :D ;)

......and how do you know there was not a train ahead of yours? ::) ::)
Unless you have wonderful vision into the sections in front of you, then you would not possibly know unless you are at the front of the train and able to read the multi-aspect signals or temporary speed limit indicators.  I suspect a previous train, probably ahead in the section after the one in front of you was running slow for a reason, or there was work on the line, and was holding yours in check as per the railway Rule Book, Rules 43,77 & 78 81 of 1950 (amended 1st October 1961)!!!! 8-) 8-) 8-)   Well it is the newest I own!! ;D ;D ;D ;)

Don't worry though eventually a forward thinking, railway historian, steam preservationist, and minded political activist such as me will give this country a railway to be proud of again, with interconnecting services that all work successfully and on time!!! :D :D :D ;)

I must say though that I actually found Chiltern Railways far better than many others when I used to commute regularly from Banbury to Marlebone and back every day for 18 months! :y :y   They were far better certainly than Connex in the South East at the time! ;D ;)



Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: tunnie on 16 August 2008, 09:19:34
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Was running late, so got to the train just seconds before it left, got a seat at a table of 4.

Train had the new laptop friendly tables fitted with pull out thingys, and power points, i had to use the lappy too.

Train was packed, some were standing. Air-con was very weak, I was hot and sweaty all the way back. Was sqaushed in by a rather large bloke next to me, some 3 kids or so futher down the carriage screaming their heads off  >:(

Needed to get home quick problems, having in Singapore and i am on call  >:(, had the worse driver... usually train comes quick into the station, but she braked miles away, and we slooooly came in. I know for a fact no trains were ahead, just her crap skills with the brake.


Got into my car...

Ahh Space :)

Ahh my personal choice of music. :)

Ahh yes, lets set the climate to 20, ahh yes, thats nice and cool. :)

Humm driving along, the ride is smoother than the train too!


All from a car worth just 1k!

What do you mean "HER"!! :o :o :o  

Typical; if any form of transport isn't running correctly then it must be a woman driving! ::) ::) ::)  Bloody cheek! :D ;)

......and how do you know there was not a train ahead of yours? ::) ::)
Unless you have wonderful vision into the sections in front of you, then you would not possibly know unless you are at the front of the train and able to read the multi-aspect signals or temporary speed limit indicators.  I suspect a previous train, probably ahead in the section after the one in front of you was running slow for a reason, or there was work on the line, and was holding yours in check as per the railway Rule Book, Rules 43,77 & 78 81 of 1950 (amended 1st October 1961)!!!! 8-) 8-) 8-)   Well it is the newest I own!! ;D ;D ;D ;)

Don't worry though eventually a forward thinking, railway historian, steam preservationist, and minded political activist such as me will give this country a railway to be proud of again, with interconnecting services that all work successfully and on time!!! :D :D :D ;)

I must say though that I actually found Chiltern Railways far better than many others when I used to commute regularly from Banbury to Marlebone and back every day for 18 months! :y :y   They were far better certainly than Connex in the South East at the time! ;D ;)




Well... been doing this now for 14/15 months, and you do notice the different styles in driving.

There are several women drivers who, and not trying to take the mick or anything are a lot softer on the brakes. Its like cars, the blokes tend to drive more aggresivly.

I KNOW there was no one ahead cause i got 6:30 express, first stop is mine, and there was nothing ahead... green signal at the station when i got off ;)

And it was almost full speed all the way, she braked before a bridge into the station, most brake well after... a smoother run yes, but not quicker!  :D
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: theolodian on 16 August 2008, 09:46:22
Trains will beat cars on their own when most cars are hybrids and most trains are like the Eurotunnel.  You drive on, run your climate and tv/dvd from the batteries, and next thing you know you are in Manchester with a car but without M6 traffic.
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: TheBoy on 16 August 2008, 10:07:37
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In general i rate Chiltern Trains very well, they are late yes, in 14 months of commuting generally on time.

They are limited by the very tight track. Trains are slow, better if they could be faster.

In total it costs me £460 a month.

£379 odd for the train with tube (unlimted travel that month), £80 for car parking for the month.

Compared to Southwest trains, where its a shorter distance by 30 odd miles, chiltern is a LOT faster. First Great Western suck, as trains go they aint bad, but no train in the UK will be the car.
In all the years I've used the Slug, I've never known it to arrived at published time.  OK, its rarely more than 5-10 mins late.

I care not if its Network Rail's fault or Chiltern's, those thieving idiots at Chiltern take my cash, I expect them to supply what they promise.

And rather than waste money on gay laptop points, I'd rather see a fare reduction.  And lose the tables so they can get more seats in - if city workers want to do extra work, they should bloody well stay in the office, rather than annoy everyone else by taking up lots of space and talking loudly on phone. Bloody retards.
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: FRE07962128 on 16 August 2008, 14:03:54
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Was running late, so got to the train just seconds before it left, got a seat at a table of 4.

Train had the new laptop friendly tables fitted with pull out thingys, and power points, i had to use the lappy too.

Train was packed, some were standing. Air-con was very weak, I was hot and sweaty all the way back. Was sqaushed in by a rather large bloke next to me, some 3 kids or so futher down the carriage screaming their heads off  >:(

Needed to get home quick problems, having in Singapore and i am on call  >:(, had the worse driver... usually train comes quick into the station, but she braked miles away, and we slooooly came in. I know for a fact no trains were ahead, just her crap skills with the brake.


Got into my car...

Ahh Space :)

Ahh my personal choice of music. :)

Ahh yes, lets set the climate to 20, ahh yes, thats nice and cool. :)

Humm driving along, the ride is smoother than the train too!


All from a car worth just 1k!

What do you mean "HER"!! :o :o :o  

Typical; if any form of transport isn't running correctly then it must be a woman driving! ::) ::) ::)  Bloody cheek! :D ;)

......and how do you know there was not a train ahead of yours? ::) ::)
Unless you have wonderful vision into the sections in front of you, then you would not possibly know unless you are at the front of the train and able to read the multi-aspect signals or temporary speed limit indicators.  I suspect a previous train, probably ahead in the section after the one in front of you was running slow for a reason, or there was work on the line, and was holding yours in check as per the railway Rule Book, Rules 43,77 & 78 81 of 1950 (amended 1st October 1961)!!!! 8-) 8-) 8-)   Well it is the newest I own!! ;D ;D ;D ;)

Don't worry though eventually a forward thinking, railway historian, steam preservationist, and minded political activist such as me will give this country a railway to be proud of again, with interconnecting services that all work successfully and on time!!! :D :D :D ;)

I must say though that I actually found Chiltern Railways far better than many others when I used to commute regularly from Banbury to Marlebone and back every day for 18 months! :y :y   They were far better certainly than Connex in the South East at the time! ;D ;)




Well... been doing this now for 14/15 months, and you do notice the different styles in driving.

There are several women drivers who, and not trying to take the mick or anything are a lot softer on the brakes. Its like cars, the blokes tend to drive more aggresivly.

I KNOW there was no one ahead cause i got 6:30 express, first stop is mine, and there was nothing ahead... green signal at the station when i got off ;)

And it was almost full speed all the way, she braked before a bridge into the station, most brake well after... a smoother run yes, but not quicker!  :D


Well Tunnie, I must agree with you 100% on that one! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: TheBoy on 16 August 2008, 14:17:11
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Was running late, so got to the train just seconds before it left, got a seat at a table of 4.

Train had the new laptop friendly tables fitted with pull out thingys, and power points, i had to use the lappy too.

Train was packed, some were standing. Air-con was very weak, I was hot and sweaty all the way back. Was sqaushed in by a rather large bloke next to me, some 3 kids or so futher down the carriage screaming their heads off  >:(

Needed to get home quick problems, having in Singapore and i am on call  >:(, had the worse driver... usually train comes quick into the station, but she braked miles away, and we slooooly came in. I know for a fact no trains were ahead, just her crap skills with the brake.


Got into my car...

Ahh Space :)

Ahh my personal choice of music. :)

Ahh yes, lets set the climate to 20, ahh yes, thats nice and cool. :)

Humm driving along, the ride is smoother than the train too!


All from a car worth just 1k!

What do you mean "HER"!! :o :o :o  

Typical; if any form of transport isn't running correctly then it must be a woman driving! ::) ::) ::)  Bloody cheek! :D ;)

......and how do you know there was not a train ahead of yours? ::) ::)
Unless you have wonderful vision into the sections in front of you, then you would not possibly know unless you are at the front of the train and able to read the multi-aspect signals or temporary speed limit indicators.  I suspect a previous train, probably ahead in the section after the one in front of you was running slow for a reason, or there was work on the line, and was holding yours in check as per the railway Rule Book, Rules 43,77 & 78 81 of 1950 (amended 1st October 1961)!!!! 8-) 8-) 8-)   Well it is the newest I own!! ;D ;D ;D ;)

Don't worry though eventually a forward thinking, railway historian, steam preservationist, and minded political activist such as me will give this country a railway to be proud of again, with interconnecting services that all work successfully and on time!!! :D :D :D ;)

I must say though that I actually found Chiltern Railways far better than many others when I used to commute regularly from Banbury to Marlebone and back every day for 18 months! :y :y   They were far better certainly than Connex in the South East at the time! ;D ;)




Well... been doing this now for 14/15 months, and you do notice the different styles in driving.

There are several women drivers who, and not trying to take the mick or anything are a lot softer on the brakes. Its like cars, the blokes tend to drive more aggresivly.

I KNOW there was no one ahead cause i got 6:30 express, first stop is mine, and there was nothing ahead... green signal at the station when i got off ;)

And it was almost full speed all the way, she braked before a bridge into the station, most brake well after... a smoother run yes, but not quicker!  :D


Well Tunnie, I must agree with you 100% on that one! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
Lizzie Lizzie Lizzie.....   .....you've obviously never seen Tunnie drive, have you ;D


Actually, I think the young girls now seem to be the most erratic...
Title: Re: why the train will never beat the car
Post by: FRE07962128 on 16 August 2008, 15:04:46
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Was running late, so got to the train just seconds before it left, got a seat at a table of 4.

Train had the new laptop friendly tables fitted with pull out thingys, and power points, i had to use the lappy too.

Train was packed, some were standing. Air-con was very weak, I was hot and sweaty all the way back. Was sqaushed in by a rather large bloke next to me, some 3 kids or so futher down the carriage screaming their heads off  >:(

Needed to get home quick problems, having in Singapore and i am on call  >:(, had the worse driver... usually train comes quick into the station, but she braked miles away, and we slooooly came in. I know for a fact no trains were ahead, just her crap skills with the brake.


Got into my car...

Ahh Space :)

Ahh my personal choice of music. :)

Ahh yes, lets set the climate to 20, ahh yes, thats nice and cool. :)

Humm driving along, the ride is smoother than the train too!


All from a car worth just 1k!

What do you mean "HER"!! :o :o :o  

Typical; if any form of transport isn't running correctly then it must be a woman driving! ::) ::) ::)  Bloody cheek! :D ;)

......and how do you know there was not a train ahead of yours? ::) ::)
Unless you have wonderful vision into the sections in front of you, then you would not possibly know unless you are at the front of the train and able to read the multi-aspect signals or temporary speed limit indicators.  I suspect a previous train, probably ahead in the section after the one in front of you was running slow for a reason, or there was work on the line, and was holding yours in check as per the railway Rule Book, Rules 43,77 & 78 81 of 1950 (amended 1st October 1961)!!!! 8-) 8-) 8-)   Well it is the newest I own!! ;D ;D ;D ;)

Don't worry though eventually a forward thinking, railway historian, steam preservationist, and minded political activist such as me will give this country a railway to be proud of again, with interconnecting services that all work successfully and on time!!! :D :D :D ;)

I must say though that I actually found Chiltern Railways far better than many others when I used to commute regularly from Banbury to Marlebone and back every day for 18 months! :y :y   They were far better certainly than Connex in the South East at the time! ;D ;)




Well... been doing this now for 14/15 months, and you do notice the different styles in driving.

There are several women drivers who, and not trying to take the mick or anything are a lot softer on the brakes. Its like cars, the blokes tend to drive more aggresivly.

I KNOW there was no one ahead cause i got 6:30 express, first stop is mine, and there was nothing ahead... green signal at the station when i got off ;)

And it was almost full speed all the way, she braked before a bridge into the station, most brake well after... a smoother run yes, but not quicker!  :D


Well Tunnie, I must agree with you 100% on that one! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
Lizzie Lizzie Lizzie.....   .....you've obviously never seen Tunnie drive, have you ;D


Actually, I think the young girls now seem to be the most erratic...



No TB I have not! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)