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Title: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 August 2018, 09:55:42
Ever since my ex and I rented a Ford Crown Victoria back in 1990 during one of our holidays in the States, with all the comfort, technology and big 5 litre engine you could want then, I have wanted one.

Another thread by an American member about importing a British Omega to the USA reminded me of my old wish, and I have just found these ex-police "interceptors" on Ebay:

https://www.ebay.com/bhp/ford-crown-victoria-police-interceptor

They are not exactly cheap, but by golly they are very tempting. With the Californian examples, as mentioned in the advert, they are rust free due to the climate, and then there are all the police extras on them.......... :D :D 8) ;)

Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Viral_Jim on 28 August 2018, 10:17:06
Yup, I'd love one, think they'd be great.

While we're on american cars, one of my favourite classics, Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham, just so cool!

https://goo.gl/images/VsWTDz (https://goo.gl/images/VsWTDz)
https://goo.gl/images/R9fw5X (https://goo.gl/images/R9fw5X)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: tunnie on 28 August 2018, 10:22:02
If I moved to the states I'd buy one, just because my childhood is all about films with them in.  ;D
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Viral_Jim on 28 August 2018, 10:26:07
Why wait, this looks tidy  :y

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1025978 (https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1025978)

I wonder if you can get an australian spec of the same car, just with the steering wheel fixed.  :D
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Mister Rog on 28 August 2018, 10:26:43

Here ya go Lizzie . . . . and it's in the uk. Get your credit cards out !

https://www.legacy-motors.co.uk/used-cars/ford-crown-victoria-null-berkhamsted-201807288901877
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 August 2018, 10:34:35
Why wait, this looks tidy  :y

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1025978 (https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1025978)

I wonder if you can get an australian spec of the same car, just with the steering wheel fixed.  :D

I like that!

The  " STAB PROOF seats &  BULLET PROOF front doors" could be very useful when going around certain parts of London :D ;)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 August 2018, 10:37:37

Here ya go Lizzie . . . . and it's in the uk. Get your credit cards out !

https://www.legacy-motors.co.uk/used-cars/ford-crown-victoria-null-berkhamsted-201807288901877

Yes, that does look good. 8) :y

I wonder why it was kept in storage for 10 years?  Strange. ???
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 August 2018, 11:16:52
Yup, I'd love one, think they'd be great.

While we're on american cars, one of my favourite classics, Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham, just so cool!

https://goo.gl/images/VsWTDz (https://goo.gl/images/VsWTDz)
https://goo.gl/images/R9fw5X (https://goo.gl/images/R9fw5X)

Wow! The 6.0L version had almost as much power as mrs. KW's 2.0 MX5. ;D

.. and about double the weight to haul around. :(
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Viral_Jim on 28 August 2018, 11:23:34
Kevin, that's clearly a safety feature.Any more bhp than that and you can bet you'd have some pretty sea sick occupants!
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 August 2018, 11:30:42
Kevin, that's clearly a safety feature.Any more bhp than that and you can bet you'd have some pretty sea sick occupants!
It's OK, I know all about that. I used to have an Ital. :o
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Omegatoy on 28 August 2018, 12:48:02
lol thats the look we tried to create with the car in the thread "anyone"
the police badges and decals are true as we could get them, it has the 4 litre v8,but with proper manual box,has terrific road presence and never fails to turn heads :y with a quick glance it is extremely similar to a vic crown,but uk built!
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 August 2018, 12:52:45
 :)
Kevin, that's clearly a safety feature.Any more bhp than that and you can bet you'd have some pretty sea sick occupants!
It's OK, I know all about that. I used to have an Ital. :o

Can you feel the envy dripping from the forum? :)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 August 2018, 12:54:17
:)
Kevin, that's clearly a safety feature.Any more bhp than that and you can bet you'd have some pretty sea sick occupants!
It's OK, I know all about that. I used to have an Ital. :o

Can you feel the envy dripping from the forum? :)

I never understood why BL didn't produce an Ital Coupe.  :-\ 
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 August 2018, 13:00:12
:)
Kevin, that's clearly a safety feature.Any more bhp than that and you can bet you'd have some pretty sea sick occupants!
It's OK, I know all about that. I used to have an Ital. :o

Can you feel the envy dripping from the forum? :)

I never understood why BL didn't produce an Ital Coupe.  :-\
They did...

Scroll down:

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/7-car-monstrosities-these-italian-design-houses-want-you-to-forget/ :o
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 August 2018, 13:09:38
Yup, I'd love one, think they'd be great.

While we're on american cars, one of my favourite classics, Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham, just so cool!

https://goo.gl/images/VsWTDz (https://goo.gl/images/VsWTDz)
https://goo.gl/images/R9fw5X (https://goo.gl/images/R9fw5X)

Wow! The 6.0L version had almost as much power as mrs. KW's 2.0 MX5. ;D

.. and about double the weight to haul around. :(

Ah, but these cars, like so many in the States, are designed not for speed but constantly cruising across the open country for hours if necessary; land cruisers ;)

What is the top speed of these police interceptors?  In the standard Crown Victoria we hired all those years ago, with a 5 litre engine, it certainly was not up to the sprint, but glided around up to the then common 55 mph speed limit (we pushed it up to 70 when in open territory as the Yanks do), but it was certainly not a speed car. These police ones must be different, but whatever, they are as I said land cruisers 8) 8) ;)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: aaronjb on 28 August 2018, 13:13:35
(we pushed it up to 70 when in open territory as the Yanks do)

Do that these days and the "big rigs" will be sailing past you like you are on a sunday drive! I had one chasing me down a hill on the Interstate and I was already doing 90..
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 August 2018, 13:19:02
(we pushed it up to 70 when in open territory as the Yanks do)

Do that these days and the "big rigs" will be sailing past you like you are on a sunday drive! I had one chasing me down a hill on the Interstate and I was already doing 90..

There must be a shortage of bears hiding behind advertising hoardings! :o :o ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 August 2018, 13:25:22
(we pushed it up to 70 when in open territory as the Yanks do)

Do that these days and the "big rigs" will be sailing past you like you are on a sunday drive! I had one chasing me down a hill on the Interstate and I was already doing 90..
Their trucks are geared for it :y Also some states, albeit not many have no speed limit on open roads in daylight
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 August 2018, 13:42:35
(we pushed it up to 70 when in open territory as the Yanks do)

Do that these days and the "big rigs" will be sailing past you like you are on a sunday drive! I had one chasing me down a hill on the Interstate and I was already doing 90..
Their trucks are geared for it :y Also some states, albeit not many have no speed limit on open roads in daylight

Not so much geared for it, but they have no speed limiters fitted like ours.  ;)

It also accounts for the common sight of large vehicle skid marks on the roads and tyre shells strewn by the roadside.  ::)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: aaronjb on 28 August 2018, 13:59:42
It also accounts for the common sight of large vehicle skid marks on the roads and tyre shells strewn by the roadside.  ::)

"Road gators" IIRC?

And yeah, granted going back up hill we were steaming past them like they were stood still as they crawled down to ~40mph.. I wonder how much they are hauling, because they aren't short of engine, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 August 2018, 14:00:08
Even without a limiter, you would struggle to make a European truck exceed 70 on a level road ;)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 August 2018, 14:03:38
It also accounts for the common sight of large vehicle skid marks on the roads and tyre shells strewn by the roadside.  ::)

"Road gators" IIRC?

And yeah, granted going back up hill we were steaming past them like they were stood still as they crawled down to ~40mph.. I wonder how much they are hauling, because they aren't short of engine, that's for sure.
Although the trailers are clearly longer, the all up weights are broadly similar to ours ;)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Nick W on 28 August 2018, 14:49:34
An Interceptor has similar performance to a V6 Omega; mid 16 second quarter mile and a top speed between 120 and 140mph depending on gearing. They use a fairly low spec engine, and most of the modifications are for durability rather than performance - the 17" steel wheels are a good example.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 August 2018, 14:52:43
An Interceptor has similar performance to a V6 Omega; mid 16 second quarter mile and a top speed between 120 and 140mph depending on gearing. They use a fairly low spec engine, and most of the modifications are for durability rather than performance - the 17" steel wheels are a good example.

Thanks for that info :y :y
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 28 August 2018, 15:05:44
Even without a limiter, you would struggle to make a European truck exceed 70 on a level road ;)

Nonsense.  ::)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 August 2018, 16:19:21
Even without a limiter, you would struggle to make a European truck exceed 70 on a level road ;)

Nonsense.  ::)
Nope, because they are generally limited to 90 km/h... Most are therefore geared to be most efficient at around the 80-90 mark...

Page 30 of this...

https://ec.europa.eu/clima/sites/clima/files/transport/vehicles/heavy/docs/technical_annex_en.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjd64bn_I_dAhXFJMAKHY_RBwkQFjANegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw1HbpF4oO6RyyybRLpCZLDJ&cshid=1535467415052

Simply removing the limiter won't make a given truck significantly faster...

Any x vs y review in Trucking magazine includes the max geared speed, rarely over 60 mph
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 28 August 2018, 17:10:58
Found these two links that are very interesting

https://www.topspeed.com/trucks/truck-reviews/volvo/volvo-fh16-ar90767.html

https://steamcommunity.com/app/227300/discussions/0/1486613649676661426/

I certainly have been out paced in my Omega by a super charged Volvo tractor unit pulling a trailer before now! :o :o :D ;)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 August 2018, 17:23:51
Yup, I'd love one, think they'd be great.

While we're on american cars, one of my favourite classics, Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham, just so cool!

https://goo.gl/images/VsWTDz (https://goo.gl/images/VsWTDz)
https://goo.gl/images/R9fw5X (https://goo.gl/images/R9fw5X)

I think Cagney and Lacey drove something similar. :)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 28 August 2018, 17:43:46
Found these two links that are very interesting

https://www.topspeed.com/trucks/truck-reviews/volvo/volvo-fh16-ar90767.html

https://steamcommunity.com/app/227300/discussions/0/1486613649676661426/

I certainly have been out paced in my Omega by a super charged Volvo tractor unit pulling a trailer before now! :o :o :D ;)
The second link can largely be dismissed due to being a discussion about a computer simulator with more holes than a kilo of emmental :D
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: grifter on 28 August 2018, 20:07:30
Or you could have a mercury grand marquis, which is for all intents and purposes the same car but I think more luxurious:

A bit like the difference between having an allegro and and an allegro vanden plas  ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Grand_Marquis

Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 August 2018, 23:06:21
Or you could have a mercury grand marquis, which is for all intents and purposes the same car but I think more luxurious:

A bit like the difference between having an allegro and and an allegro vanden plas  ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Grand_Marquis

.. and every bit as tasteful. :y
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Nick W on 29 August 2018, 10:45:40
Or you could have a mercury grand marquis, which is for all intents and purposes the same car but I think more luxurious:

A bit like the difference between having an allegro and and an allegro vanden plas  ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Grand_Marquis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Grand_Marquis)


I've had one, although mine was mid eighties. White, with a white vinyl roof and the only bits of the interior that weren't blood red were chrome plated plastic. It was like driving a 5.0l sofa. A 2.8 Scorpio is a MUCH better car in every respect.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: STEMO on 29 August 2018, 15:30:12
Big yanks just rumble nicely, they don't go anywhere fast.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: BazaJT on 29 August 2018, 19:30:39
Don't know how true it was but I did once read in a car magazine that the Mach1 Mustang[as used in Diamonds Are Forever]was flat out at 96mph :o Due mainly to all the emissions crap that they were forced to fit.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: aaronjb on 30 August 2018, 08:55:39
Don't know how true it was but I did once read in a car magazine that the Mach1 Mustang[as used in Diamonds Are Forever]was flat out at 96mph :o Due mainly to all the emissions crap that they were forced to fit.

Ah, the ugly Mustang .. and even those are going up in value now.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: biggriffin on 30 August 2018, 13:56:42
Even without a limiter, you would struggle to make a European truck exceed 70 on a level road ;)


Depends on the gearing, we in Europe have more hp than them spanks,  They haven't quite caught up, I think the vn Volvo is only available with a 610, were-as in Europe we can have 750.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 30 August 2018, 14:15:07
Even without a limiter, you would struggle to make a European truck exceed 70 on a level road ;)


Depends on the gearing, we in Europe have more hp than them spanks,  They haven't quite caught up, I think the vn Volvo is only available with a 610, were-as in Europe we can have 750.
The heavy hitters in the VN are Cat units iirc, the typical Volvo lump is the D13 in 480-520 flavours... The D16 is available in the flagship, but it's a rare beast.
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 30 August 2018, 18:36:12
Don't know how true it was but I did once read in a car magazine that the Mach1 Mustang[as used in Diamonds Are Forever]was flat out at 96mph :o Due mainly to all the emissions crap that they were forced to fit.

All I know is that a 1968 Fastback Mustang with even the great and lovely Steve McQueen needed anything more than a top speed of 96 mph when going around the streets of San Francisco! ;D ;D ;)

Mind you the out of City scenes may have needed 90 mph! :)
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: BazaJT on 30 August 2018, 19:50:12
Always preferred the bad guys Charger to the Mustang.One of the greatest car chases on film though :y
Title: Re: Ford Crown Victoria
Post by: biggriffin on 31 August 2018, 08:01:01
Would take to long, but European trucks are safer, than American units, and we have one set of cu. Regulation,the yanks have state regulations, our trucks are 24v,yanks are 12v, we have better braking systems.

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-an-American-truck-and-a-European-truck