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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: terry paget on 24 October 2018, 19:19:30

Title: MOT failure rear suspension to cill brackets missing
Post by: terry paget on 24 October 2018, 19:19:30
MOT tester spotted the rear brackets attaching the cill to the triangular plate beneath the semi trailing arms were corroded through. Pics follow, with pics of an older estate parts.
Y342 right hand
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ud2owapagwlo9db/Y342RHcillMOUNT.jpg?dl=1)
Y342 left hand
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/1icbhki42zv2mal/Y342lhCILLmount.jpg?dl=1)
V828 right hand
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/62f0g9nrts0zs27/V828RHcillMOUNT.jpg?dl=1)
V828 left hand
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/srt033qharbm8cr/V828LHcillMOUNT.jpg?dl=1)
Looks terminal to me. MOT tester said I should weld a plate on the cill inside face and weld a bracket to it. I invite your comments.
 
Title: Re: MOT failure rear suspension to cill brackets missing
Post by: dave the builder on 24 October 2018, 19:34:15
be easier to fab it up on the bench,make the bracket,weld to the plate
Then weld the plate to the sill  :-\
worth cleaning up the sill first to see what is viable metal
fiddly job with not much room to work
had worse rot welded up on the in-laws sierra sill/suspension area £160
Title: Re: MOT failure rear suspension to cill brackets missing
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 October 2018, 19:37:26
Scrap them, pop your feet up and let the kids sort themselves out  :y
Title: Re: MOT failure rear suspension to cill brackets missing
Post by: dave the builder on 24 October 2018, 19:43:11
Scrap them, pop your feet up and let the kids find other cars for you to fix   :y
Fixed that for you Doc  ;)
Title: Re: MOT failure rear suspension to cill brackets missing
Post by: Nick W on 24 October 2018, 20:33:40

You have rotten inner sills, and I doubt that there's much metal left behind the plastic cover in the wheel tub. Which includes the end of the floor under the seat and the seatbelt mount.
Title: Re: MOT failure rear suspension to cill brackets missing
Post by: terry paget on 24 October 2018, 20:37:35
be easier to fab it up on the bench,make the bracket,weld to the plate
Then weld the plate to the sill  :-\
worth cleaning up the sill first to see what is viable metal
fiddly job with not much room to work
had worse rot welded up on the in-laws sierra sill/suspension area £160
Good thinking. Clean up the cill, weld a plate to it, clean up the suspension triangle, fabricate a bracket, and weld the bracket to the plate and the triangle corner. Sounds good. I will give it some thought, meanwhile look around at Astras. I will take advice from my tame welder.
Title: Re: MOT failure rear suspension to cill brackets missing
Post by: Nick W on 24 October 2018, 20:41:18
Good thinking. Clean up the cill, weld a plate to it, clean up the suspension triangle, fabricate a bracket, and weld the bracket to the plate and the triangle corner. Sounds good. I will give it some thought, meanwhile look around at Astras. I will take advice from my tame welder.


Cleaning up that sill will make a hole. It will be bigger than the crusty surfaces in your picture, and there are lots of other panels that will need attention. Even an MOT patch snotted over the top will be a lot of very ugly work.
Title: Re: MOT failure rear suspension to cill brackets missing
Post by: terry paget on 24 October 2018, 20:43:54

You have rotten inner sills, and I doubt that there's much metal left behind the plastic cover in the wheel tub. Which includes the end of the floor under the seat and the seatbelt mount.
I removed the plastic covers at the front of the wheel arches before my welder did the cills, and he did patch the front of the wheel arches. But I take your point, I think you are suggesting that the rust is terminal, as I feared. Yet could be a minor welding job attaching rear corner of triangle to cill might get me one more year out of the car.
Title: Re: MOT failure rear suspension to cill brackets missing
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 October 2018, 21:04:07
Your eternal optimism is most noble and futile all at once  ;D

Either restore it properly or scrap it... What you spend on repairs will easily buy another shitter with most of an MoT ::)
Title: Re: MOT failure rear suspension to cill brackets missing
Post by: terry paget on 24 October 2018, 21:43:10
Thank you for your advice gentlemen. I shall sleep on it. Wife - across the room - tells me to stop hesitating and buy a decent Astra; not a £300 MOT failure, but a decent car under 10 years old that will last a while. And cost £2000 plus, I retort.
It's too late to pop a new clutch in the 2.2, I have already stripped it for spares and SORNed it. My only decent remaining Omegas are the ancient 2.5 estates. Long may they last!