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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: olm on 18 January 2019, 03:53:53
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Hello, I have seen that many of you use LPG in your cars, I have a X30XE wich I´m going to convert. Could you tell me if these engines are reliable to LPG or are they delicate valves?
Thanks
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Very reliable if done correctly :y
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Converted mine at about 70K, if memory serves. It's now on 230K and still sweet as a nut. I doubt it's done more than a couple of K on petrol (plus warmup time) in that period. So yes, go for it. Get a decent SGI system (many of us have used the AC Stag systems) and you can't go wrong. :y
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Would of considered doing mine when first bought as cover some 100 +miles a day and accept the fuel saving would of been considerable...trouble was I couldn't afford to loose the boot space being part of the reason I own an Omega. :)
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Would of considered doing mine when first bought as cover some 100 +miles a day and accept the fuel saving would of been considerable...trouble was I couldn't afford to loose the boot space being part of the reason I own an Omega. :)
Same reason I didn't convert mine. ideally a dual fuel tank in place of the existing would be the answer, but prohibitively expensive to manufacture I imagine. :y
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My beloved Silver Bullet was a 3.0l, and worked very well with LPG for the 80k it was on LPG. And frequently driven very hard. It does suffer the lag that auto 3.2s seem to (that's there on petrol, but amplified by LPG).
I was slow to convert it due to boot space, until that light bulb moment that I only needed a boot 3 or 4 times a year, so a roof box was viable.
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I unfortunately drive around with a boot full of work stuff,which for practical reasons cannot sit on the back seat or floor and being rather heavy is best in the boot.
Only time it gets all taken out is for holidays when boot gets filled back up with suitcases/etc etc,so my boot is essential and gets a very hard life :o
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Ok, thanks, I'm more relaxed :y
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Having an estate makes it easier as you can put the tank in the spare wheel well ;)
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My 2.2 hasn’t missed a beat on lpg since I bought it 3 years ago runs really well too. Mines a zovoli setup.
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Having an estate makes it easier as you can put the tank in the spare wheel well ;)
Although to get a decent sized tank in there you have to do a little bit more than just drop it in ;)
To answer the OP’s question. My first Omega did around 75k trouble free miles, my second did about 70k and was running fine when Bambi jumped out ::)
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TBE is about 80k on LPG (about what the Silver Bullet managed), but the injectors I think have had it. I might put on the Valteks of the Silver Bullet. When I CBA :D
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My 3.2 was converted in May 2008 at 73568 miles ... it is now February 2019 (11 years) and 177831 miles (104263 miles) and still going strong ... average saving over the period 10.56 pence / mile or 38.22%...
Whats not to like :)
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Whats not to like :)
The difficultly in getting LPG around these parts (so she tells me). The pump at Shell in Little Oxford (Bicester) doesn't fit the car. Countrywide at Banburyshire is still awaiting for them to fix the pump, though I suspect they won't bother (its been out for months), BP here and on M40 have ripped their LPG pumps out.
Which is why I ended up with a tractor, because LPG was starting to get hassle to get without significant detours.
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I did around 70k I think on LPG, not V6, but 2.2 inline 4. Never had any issues :y
But I personally would not go LPG again, not enough stations do it, quite a few are puling pumps out and the price difference is rubbish now, so really reduces the benefit.
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I can't be arsed to work out how many miles but i've had this Stag kit on 2 different Omega V6's (3ltr / 3.2ltr) for a good 7 or 8 years.
No real problems to talk about either :y
As for LPG availability, we have a Morrisons just down the road.
IF they every get rid of the LPG, i'll probably end up getting rid of the car :'(
Must admit, I do think about what i'd replace it with .............. :(
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I had the same dilemma . LPG outlets disappeared around here, so I got rid om my LPG 2.5 and opted for an old WVO burner for day to day stuff (approx.65% of mileage, and got my 3.2 Elite on petrol for the other 35%. Works out very cheap, even with the extra ved, mot, insurance etc. involved in having two cars.
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Having an estate makes it easier as you can put the tank in the spare wheel well ;)
How large (or small) tank would fit in bolt-on -style?
There's plenty to choose from: https://www.lpgshop.co.uk/lpg-tank-toroidal-internal-30-degree/
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Having an estate makes it easier as you can put the tank in the spare wheel well ;)
How large (or small) tank would fit in bolt-on -style?
There's plenty to choose from: https://www.lpgshop.co.uk/lpg-tank-toroidal-internal-30-degree/
https://www.lpgshop.co.uk/720-250-82l-4-hole-toroidal-tank-gzwm/
Is typically what goes in the UK estates... Boot floor needs raising slightly as the effect is approximately twice that of a full size spare wheel ;)
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I did around 70k I think on LPG, not V6, but 2.2 inline 4. Never had any issues :y
Apart from it always switching back to petrol when driven hard. Which is the only way to drive a 2.2 Omega
But I personally would not go LPG again, not enough stations do it, quite a few are puling pumps out and the price difference is rubbish now, so really reduces the benefit.
Many supermarkets in the smoke sell LPG, and supermarkets are usually around 55p. I'd be surprised if there wasn't one without a significant detour for you....
…now if you lived Aylesbury up to here, that's a different story, as there is a massive void.
If I lived/worked near a supermarket selling LPG, the Jag would be gone in an instant, and a good 3l Omega would be sort....
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I did around 70k I think on LPG, not V6, but 2.2 inline 4. Never had any issues :y
Apart from it always switching back to petrol when driven hard. Which is the only way to drive a 2.2 Omega
But I personally would not go LPG again, not enough stations do it, quite a few are puling pumps out and the price difference is rubbish now, so really reduces the benefit.
Many supermarkets in the smoke sell LPG, and supermarkets are usually around 55p. I'd be surprised if there wasn't one without a significant detour for you....
…now if you lived Aylesbury up to here, that's a different story, as there is a massive void.
If I lived/worked near a supermarket selling LPG, the Jag would be gone in an instant, and a good 3l Omega would be sort....
Nope, nothing close. Bare in mind even a 1 mile detour in London could add 30 mins easily to the commute.
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I did around 70k I think on LPG, not V6, but 2.2 inline 4. Never had any issues :y
Apart from it always switching back to petrol when driven hard. Which is the only way to drive a 2.2 Omega
But I personally would not go LPG again, not enough stations do it, quite a few are puling pumps out and the price difference is rubbish now, so really reduces the benefit.
Many supermarkets in the smoke sell LPG, and supermarkets are usually around 55p. I'd be surprised if there wasn't one without a significant detour for you....
…now if you lived Aylesbury up to here, that's a different story, as there is a massive void.
If I lived/worked near a supermarket selling LPG, the Jag would be gone in an instant, and a good 3l Omega would be sort....
Nope, nothing close. Bare in mind even a 1 mile detour in London could add 30 mins easily to the commute.
I filled up down your way the other day Mark on the way back from Epsom, Sainsburys Cobham just off the M25 at 56p, I least I think thats down your way. :-X
I should count myself lucky really, spoilt for choice around here, well on the way into London via M11 / East London anyway, 2 Morris,a Sainsburys and a Colar Gas being the cheapest at 55 to 58p, theres a couple of Shells that need to compete at around 61/63p if need be. another one I use on the North M25 is London Colney, Sainsburys at 54p :y
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Chobham services is a 34 mile detour ;D
Given that way of the M25 is basically gridlock everyday, it’s no way near practical.
Ones on my route are Texaco on A4 at 65p and BP at Hatton Cross, 68 today. Luckily I don’t need LPG now, I can live with 22mpg. :)
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Chobham services is a 34 mile detour ;D
Given that way of the M25 is basically gridlock everyday, it’s no way near practical.
Ones on my route are Texaco on A4 at 65p and BP at Hatton Cross, 68 today. Luckily I don’t need LPG now, I can live with 22mpg. :)
Rubbish Piffle... you can cut across to Ripley/Wisley then shoot up the A3 to Tolworth, skirt round Kingston and straight to Heathrow. Probably find it quicker than the M3 as well.
Especially as the place Zirk suggested is a whole thirty seconds from J10, and nowhere near Cobham services... ;D ;D ;D
You drive past Chobham on the M3 :-X