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Title: Corsa
Post by: Raeturbo on 28 January 2019, 17:02:44
 Heard on radio 4 today that the Vauxhall corsa was one of the hardest cars to get into/steal
As it uses keys :) apparently the top 7 selling cars in uk are easy to nick with cheap electrical
Devices from EBay!
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Andy B on 28 January 2019, 17:19:20
and to think, some pay extra to get a less secure car  ;D

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47023003
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 January 2019, 18:36:16
Nice to see the SMMT sticking to the party line as usual despite it being complete BS. ;D
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Nick W on 28 January 2019, 18:58:13
Heard on radio 4 today that the Vauxhall corsa was one of the hardest cars to get into/steal
As it uses keys :) apparently the top 7 selling cars in uk are easy to nick with cheap electrical
Devices from EBay!


Just a storm in a teacup: cars with mechanical locks are also easy to nick with cheap devices from Ebay. Or you can make your own picks from readily available materials. All it takes is a little practice.


As my grandfather used to say, if it can be made, it can be unmade
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Andy B on 28 January 2019, 19:09:27
Heard on radio 4 today that the Vauxhall corsa was one of the hardest cars to get into/steal
As it uses keys :) apparently the top 7 selling cars in uk are easy to nick with cheap electrical
Devices from EBay!


Just a storm in a teacup: cars with mechanical locks are also easy to nick with cheap devices from Ebay. Or you can make your own picks from readily available materials. All it takes is a little practice.


As my grandfather used to say, if it can be made, it can be unmade

but once you're in the car, you can't then just drive it away
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Kevin Wood on 28 January 2019, 22:42:11
Heard on radio 4 today that the Vauxhall corsa was one of the hardest cars to get into/steal
As it uses keys :) apparently the top 7 selling cars in uk are easy to nick with cheap electrical
Devices from EBay!


Just a storm in a teacup: cars with mechanical locks are also easy to nick with cheap devices from Ebay. Or you can make your own picks from readily available materials. All it takes is a little practice.


As my grandfather used to say, if it can be made, it can be unmade

but once you're in the car, you can't then just drive it away

Bingo! You need physical access to the keys. The whole idea of keys, in fact.
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Varche on 28 January 2019, 22:44:41
On tv they just rip a loomfull of wires out from behind the steering wheel column and then spark a blue with a red wire and the car starts! Seen it times .  :y
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 29 January 2019, 07:43:49
Heard on radio 4 today that the Vauxhall corsa was one of the hardest cars to get into/steal
As it uses keys :) apparently the top 7 selling cars in uk are easy to nick with cheap electrical
Devices from EBay!


Just a storm in a teacup: cars with mechanical locks are also easy to nick with cheap devices from Ebay. Or you can make your own picks from readily available materials. All it takes is a little practice.


As my grandfather used to say, if it can be made, it can be unmade

but once you're in the car, you can't then just drive it away

Bingo! You need physical access to the keys. The whole idea of keys, in fact.

Yep, the article is talking keyless entry and the Fiesta and Focus are incredibly easy to get when equipped with it. The Corsa scored well as keyless entry is not an option
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Rods2 on 29 January 2019, 11:42:56
Just put your car keys onto separate keyrings & store in a tin (or a metal key press) that acts as a Faraday cage & that defeats any long range scanners or use an alternative mechanical locking device. :y :y :y

A Krooklok on a steering wheel did stop the theft of a Renault 19 from my front garden, but the did write off the steering wheel in the process >:( >:( >:( where cars were regularly disappearing in the area, at the time, until the government clamped down on scrapyards.

Anything that stops an easy theft normally means the will nick somebody else's instead. ???
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Kevin Wood on 29 January 2019, 11:50:32
Just put your car keys onto separate keyrings & store in a tin...

Alternatively, suck it up and learn to press a button when you want to unlock your car. I've never found it that hard. Is it just me?  :-\
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 29 January 2019, 12:05:48
Nope. It's just you :D
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Andy B on 29 January 2019, 12:27:36
Just put your car keys onto separate keyrings & store in a tin...

Alternatively, suck it up and learn to press a button when you want to unlock your car. I've never found it that hard. Is it just me?  :-\

But while it's an option on Mercs etc , keyless entry & ignition is standard on some ie you get it whether you want it or not
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: STEMO on 29 January 2019, 12:43:12
Just put your car keys onto separate keyrings & store in a tin (or a metal key press) that acts as a Faraday cage & that defeats any long range scanners or use an alternative mechanical locking device. :y :y :y

A Krooklok on a steering wheel did stop the theft of a Renault 19 from my front garden, but the did write off the steering wheel in the process >:( >:( >:( where cars were regularly disappearing in the area, at the time, until the government clamped down on scrapyards.

Anything that stops an easy theft normally means the will nick somebody else's instead. ???
Yes, but you live in a rough area. We have no such trouble in Barnsley.
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Nick W on 29 January 2019, 17:41:52

Anything that stops an easy theft normally means they will nick somebody else's instead. ???


Yes, that's how security works. The trick is making it secure enough without compromising usability - and durability is a big part of that. Electronic keys seem to be a lot less reliable than mechanical ones, and I'm not a fan.
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: aaronjb on 30 January 2019, 06:24:06
Electronic keys seem to be a lot less reliable than mechanical ones, and I'm not a fan.

Not including back when you could open any Ford with any other Ford key, clearly... (i.e. the 1980s and early 90s)
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Andy B on 30 January 2019, 08:23:05
....

Not including back when you could open any Ford with any other Ford key, clearly... (i.e. the 1980s and early 90s)

 ;) :y ftfy  :y
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 30 January 2019, 09:47:36
I knew a bloke who went to Brighton in his Dads Escort. He noticed an almost identical one parked a few yards away.
Later in the day he was shocked to find his car wasn't where he left it, although the other one was still parked in the same spot.
He went to find a police station to report the car stolen, but when he came back to the scene with the police, his car was back where he left it and the other Escort had gone.
Only explanation was that the other driver got in his car and drove off. Then realised they were driving the wrong car, so came back and swapped over.  ;D
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: henryd on 30 January 2019, 10:04:17
I knew a bloke who went to Brighton in his Dads Escort. He noticed an almost identical one parked a few yards away.
Later in the day he was shocked to find his car wasn't where he left it, although the other one was still parked in the same spot.
He went to find a police station to report the car stolen, but when he came back to the scene with the police, his car was back where he left it and the other Escort had gone.
Only explanation was that the other driver got in his car and drove off. Then realised they were driving the wrong car, so came back and swapped over.  ;D

Did similar with a Marina back in the day,got in it no problem but ignition lock was being awkward till I realised Stereo was different !!,beat a hasty retreat and re-locked car and went to find mine  :-\
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Kevin Wood on 31 January 2019, 18:14:42
I knew a bloke who went to Brighton in his Dads Escort. He noticed an almost identical one parked a few yards away.
Later in the day he was shocked to find his car wasn't where he left it, although the other one was still parked in the same spot.
He went to find a police station to report the car stolen, but when he came back to the scene with the police, his car was back where he left it and the other Escort had gone.
Only explanation was that the other driver got in his car and drove off. Then realised they were driving the wrong car, so came back and swapped over.  ;D

Did similar with a Marina back in the day,got in it no problem but ignition lock was being awkward till I realised Stereo was different !!,beat a hasty retreat and re-locked car and went to find mine  :-\

Fancy inadvertently stealing a car.. and then discovering it's a Marina. ;D

Still, could have been worse... It could have been Sir Tigger's, complete with footprints on the windscreen and dodgy stains on the back seat. Allegedly. :-X
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: zirk on 01 February 2019, 10:00:09
Heard on radio 4 today that the Vauxhall corsa was one of the hardest cars to get into/steal
As it uses keys :) apparently the top 7 selling cars in uk are easy to nick with cheap electrical
Devices from EBay!
As I own a Corsa Van I can insure you that putting a Brick through the Drivers Door and rear Tailgate Screen is no different to any other Car.  >:( >:(

On mine they do have a feature where the Key and Remote only unlocks the Drivers Door, you have to unlock twice to fully open. Which is a real pain in the arse when youve already started the engine and now have to remove the Key from the Ing. to gain entry to the other doors. Not sure if this is a Van feature or all Corsa C's do this.
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: dave the builder on 01 February 2019, 11:57:45
all Corsa C's do this
anti hijack
maybe you can turn it off in the ecu /bcm  :-\
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: zirk on 01 February 2019, 12:20:02
Right ok Dave, couldnt remember as I drove somebody eles's Corca C a while back (real basic 1000 model) and dont remember having to do the double unlock thingy,  :-\

Anti Hijack?, they do come out with strange features sometimes, my Veccy C, late one without the rear Hatch key lock, if it doesnt get used much, and the Battery gives up, normal thing unlock with Key, lift bonnet, lock car with Door Pins, remove Battery to Charge overnight, and the Boot is unlocked during that period without the Battery. I know what the answer is, just a pain having to get another Battery out and Jump Leads to sort it just to lock the Boot, but then youve got the Power Sounder issue over night, so I just tend to leave the Boot unlocked.  ::)

Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: dave the builder on 01 February 2019, 13:10:58
I have spares 075 (corsa,astra) and 096 (omega) batteries stat ready in case an of the fleet have a flat battery .
it's easy to leave an interior light on or side lights or whatever .
I know there are lightweight jump packs out now and technology has moved on ,but I much prefer to slap a big,fully charged battery in ,if the battery is flat or low ,then smart trickle charge the flat for stock .
having sent 2 astra G and a french turd for recycling last year during fleet updates  :P I've plenty of spare batteries ,and dead batteries i keep to put on scrappers ,along with bald tyres .
tight git  :-\ yes I am  ;D
Title: Re: Corsa
Post by: Raeturbo on 02 February 2019, 18:42:25
Ha ha, a true builder :)