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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Lizzie Zoom on 21 April 2019, 19:03:35
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So a comedian has won a landslide victory to become the President of Ukraine.
What can go wrong? ??? ???
After all we have had an actor as President of the USA. :D ;)
No doubt Rod2 will have some views on this :D ;)
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It seems that the established order of things is getting a kicking at the ballot box all over the show! :)
All though in Ukraine's case the people probably take the view that it couldn't be any worse. ::) :-\
Maybe their new Prez will laugh Putin into submission! ;D
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OK he is anti corruption. He is going to end the war in Eastern Donbass. How?
Lets see how he pans out.
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Putin's toy like Yanukovych what can possibly go wrong especially on Maiden? Tells us all on what is wrong on Western media style over substance. Putin is winning again. >:( >:( >:(
All that can be said about 2019 so far we are still all here & not replaced by lots of glass yet, especially in Sandhurst. ??? ??? ???
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We've had a bunch of comedians in charge for years,so why should Ukraine be any different? :D
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The guy has got a few bob, apart from being an Actor and Comedian, he is also very succsefull Businessman also with a couple of Degrees in Law and Finance so with a bit of luck should know what he is doing, assuming of course no one else is pulling his strings.
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The guy has got a few bob, apart from being an Actor and Comedian, he is also very succsefull Businessman also with a couple of Degrees in Law and Finance so with a bit of luck should know what he is doing, assuming of course no one else is pulling his strings.
Might be successful......might not.
Ronald Reagan was a cretin but brighter than George W Bush......who was certainly not the sharpest tool in the box.
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Reagan was the best President in my liftetime. He was smarter than he appeared, which is why he was very instrumental in the downfall of the USSR.
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Reagan was the best President in my liftetime. He was smarter than he appeared, which is why he was very instrumental in the downfall of the USSR.
From a very average bunch I'd pick Kennedy and LBJ from my lifetime.
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Kennedy spent most of his time adulterating, and of course came very close to starting a nuclear war with the Soviets.
Cant remember anything great that he did, although he was cool, hip, trendy and charismatic. A bit like Obama.
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Kennedy spent most of his time adulterating, and of course came very close to starting a nuclear war with the Soviets.
Cant remember anything great that he did, although he was cool, hip, trendy and charismatic. A bit like Obama.
Getting shot in the head was pretty impressive...
Best Obama could manage was Obamacare. Which didn't turn out so great.
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Kennedy spent most of his time adulterating, and of course came very close to starting a nuclear war with the Soviets.
Cant remember anything great that he did, although he was cool, hip, trendy and charismatic. A bit like Obama.
That is somewhat unfair. It was the Soviets who pushed their luck, and the World to the brink of nuclear war, by sending ballistic missles to Cuba, just 228 miles from the southern tip of Florida. Kennedy actually held his cool and stopped short of pushing buttons. He also is credited with initiating the Washington to Moscow 'hot line' to inhibit the 'misunderstandings' that could occur between the two presidents and stop a future 'accidental' war.
In addition there is some evidence, although not much admittedly, that Kennedy was questioning the worth of the Vietnam War, with some planning to withdraw US advisors from South Vietnam in 1963, but his assignation put a halt to that and Hawk, LBJ, into office............. :(
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Although (allegedly) he had Marilyn Monroe killed to keep her quiet about their affair - very noble!
Ron.
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Kennedy spent most of his time adulterating, and of course came very close to starting a nuclear war with the Soviets.
Cant remember anything great that he did, although he was cool, hip, trendy and charismatic. A bit like Obama.
That is somewhat unfair. It was the Soviets who pushed their luck, and the World to the brink of nuclear war, by sending ballistic missles to Cuba, just 228 miles from the southern tip of Florida. Kennedy actually held his cool and stopped short of pushing buttons. He also is credited with initiating the Washington to Moscow 'hot line' to inhibit the 'misunderstandings' that could occur between the two presidents and stop a future 'accidental' war.
In addition there is some evidence, although not much admittedly, that Kennedy was questioning the worth of the Vietnam War, with some planning to withdraw US advisors from South Vietnam in 1963, but his assignation put a halt to that and Hawk, LBJ, into office............. :(
I'm sure Albs will find your faux pas quite apt ......
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He may have kept his cool during the missile crisis, but that was caused by his Bay of pigs invasion, which was an unmitigated disaster.
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Kennedy spent most of his time adulterating, and of course came very close to starting a nuclear war with the Soviets.
Cant remember anything great that he did, although he was cool, hip, trendy and charismatic. A bit like Obama.
That is somewhat unfair. It was the Soviets who pushed their luck, and the World to the brink of nuclear war, by sending ballistic missles to Cuba, just 228 miles from the southern tip of Florida. Kennedy actually held his cool and stopped short of pushing buttons. He also is credited with initiating the Washington to Moscow 'hot line' to inhibit the 'misunderstandings' that could occur between the two presidents and stop a future 'accidental' war.
In addition there is some evidence, although not much admittedly, that Kennedy was questioning the worth of the Vietnam War, with some planning to withdraw US advisors from South Vietnam in 1963, but his assignation put a halt to that and Hawk, LBJ, into office............. :(
I'm sure Albs will find your faux pas quite apt ......
Yeah, that bloody auto spell checker does it again when I was tired! ::) ::) :D :D ;)
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He may have kept his cool during the missile crisis, but that was caused by his Bay of pigs invasion, which was an unmitigated disaster.
President Dwight D. Eisenhower was the one to initially authorize the CIA to recruit 1,400 Cuban exiles living in Miami and begin training them to overthrow Castro in 1960. However, due to the nature of the Cold War and the very real threat to the democratic West, and of course especially the USA, President Kennedy liked the plan when he came to office in January 1961. It was foolishly enacted with the known results!
When looking at the history of the time we must consider the context in which political decisions were made, and in this case the magnitude of the perceived, and very real threat, that the Soviet Union posed to USA and western allies interests after 1945. It had been just 10 years since the Soviet and Chinese backed North Korea had invaded the South in 1950, and after 3 years 300,000 had been killed. The Berlin Wall had been erected in 1961, and after the Americans successfully put into service a ballistic missile system in 1959, the USA was shocked to find the Soviets were trying to place their own ballistic system into Cuba, within the US backyard, in 1962 after that country had gone communist. Then you have the threat of spreading communism in Indochina,when in 1954, Viet Minh won a crucial battle which ended French dominance in Vietnam, and a year later, in 1955, the "unofficial" USA involvement in the Vietnam War started, only ending in a humiliating defeat for America in 1975.
So any American President heading the USA in those difficult times had to make some very difficult decisions, and, yes, with the assistance of the CIA could cock it all up! If anything we can thank our lucky stars that once the USA ballistic system came into use, there was no need for B52's of the US Strategic Air Command (SAC) to be patrolling 24/7 along the Soviet border, awaiting the crucial signals from a distant President to "send them in" for nuclear strikes, along with the British V Force. After 1959 all the President's had to do was press buttons to send the missiles up!! Of course the Soviets would have mirrored all that and Armageddon would have been complete!! :o :o ;)
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Well this thread is cheerful! ::)
Now..... About that comedian! :D ;D
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Well this thread is cheerful! ::)
Now..... About that comedian! :D ;D
Yep, we may have strayed again into the reality of the past............................but notice, we are still talking about the USA, it's allies, and what is now Russia, that Rod tells us is still a very real threat to us all, albeit in a different form than in the past.
Will a comedy actor resolve the issues of Ukraine and the bigger picture? I hope he can bring a "load of laughs"! ;D ;D ;D ;)
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The way the world is going, I'm starting to look forward to being melted by one of Vlad's nukes. ;D