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Title: Double standards
Post by: STEMO on 03 July 2019, 18:18:20
Our government is poking its nose in over the riots in Hong Kong. Taking the moral high ground and saying that these young people wouldn't behave in such a manner without good reason to do so.
Does anyone remember the poll tax riots? Or the student fees riots? The Toxteth and Bristol riots? No doubt those people thought they had good reasons too, but the general population, me included, thought that they'd gone way too far and should be subjected to the full weight of the law. What is so different about Hong Kong?
We need to always take the side of repressed groups of people, but we should not be defending this type of behaviour.
Title: Re: Double standards
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 July 2019, 18:30:14
Nothing really to do with us since 1997.

I'm not really surprised that the Chinese government think we should mind our own business.

The Empire is long gone but some have failed to notice.
Title: Re: Double standards
Post by: Varche on 03 July 2019, 18:36:34
A question. “This sort of behaviour”. Was that the small group of people ramming a glass door - focussed endlessly by our Hello! Culture media? Or the million people that had got off their backsides and taken to the streets?

Title: Re: Double standards
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 03 July 2019, 18:52:19
Nothing really to do with us since 1997.

I'm not really surprised that the Chinese government think we should mind our own business.

The Empire is long gone but some have failed to notice.

Yes it is.  Hong Kong is governed under the 'one country, two systems' principle enshrined in the Sino-British Joint Declaration, an international treaty lodged at the United Nations.  ;)

We might have to send in the gunboats to enforce this treaty.  :)  ::)
Title: Re: Double standards
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 03 July 2019, 18:56:06
I think there was a case for allowing Hong Kong citizens to have the right to come and live in the UK. They were part of "the British family" for 100 years, and were and are petrified of being ruled by Communist China.
Since the British lease ran out though, we have had god knows how many millions of extra people come into the UK and its now so overcrowded we couldn't possibly give Honk Kong folk the right to come here too.
Title: Re: Double standards
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 July 2019, 19:07:52
Nothing really to do with us since 1997.

I'm not really surprised that the Chinese government think we should mind our own business.

The Empire is long gone but some have failed to notice.

Yes it is.  Hong Kong is governed under the 'one country, two systems' principle enshrined in the Sino-British Joint Declaration, an international treaty lodged at the United Nations.  ;)

We might have to send in the gunboats to enforce this treaty.  :)  ::)

In that case we should invade China and give the chinks a bloody nose.

However, in reality, we have no power. :)
Title: Re: Double standards
Post by: Varche on 03 July 2019, 19:18:27
I think MigV6 could find a spare bedroom for a few Hong Kong folk to demonstrate goodwill. Surely there is space for a few more million in England. ;D
Title: Re: Double standards
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 03 July 2019, 19:20:15
A question. “This sort of behaviour”. Was that the small group of people ramming a glass door - focussed endlessly by our Hello! Culture media? Or the million people that had got off their backsides and taken to the streets?

There has also been a strong suspicion that the Hong Kong / Chinesse authorities were encouraging the riot on the administration building to politically devalue the aims of the majority of peaceful protestors. ;)
Title: Re: Double standards
Post by: STEMO on 03 July 2019, 20:16:27
A question. “This sort of behaviour”. Was that the small group of people ramming a glass door - focussed endlessly by our Hello! Culture media? Or the million people that had got off their backsides and taken to the streets?
Well, obviously, the people who not only rammed a glass door, but got inside the building where the legislature sits and trashed it, draping a union flag over a lectern.