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Title: Mexico F1
Post by: Varche on 28 October 2019, 00:21:31
Good race.

There will be some strategist jobs vacant at some of the teams. Maybe it was the altitude. Oh and the pit stops.
Title: Re: Mexico F1
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 October 2019, 12:14:36
Good race.

There will be some strategist jobs vacant at some of the teams. Maybe it was the altitude. Oh and the pit stops.


The 1968 olympic games were held in Mexico city. The altitude saw the first sub 10 second 100 metre sprint when Jim Hines clocked 9.95 seconds. There was also a world record in the men's 400 metres, a record that stood for 20 years.

Distance races (5000m.....10000m .......marathon.  ...... were much slower than usual due to the altitude.

 
Title: Re: Mexico F1
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 28 October 2019, 12:34:33
Although most of the race wasn't exciting wheel to wheel stuff (after the first lap at least), Hamiltons drive was superb and showed once again he on a different level. To drive for most of the race on one set of tyres with the much faster Ferraris behind him took a perfect combination of speed and tyre management.
Vettel was downright dangerous by squeezing Hamilton of the track on the run down to the first corner. Verstappen was clumsy in the close wheel racing in the first lap and when getting past Bottas. Vettel even drove into the back of his own team mate while concentrating on keeping Hamilton behind.
Title: Re: Mexico F1
Post by: Raeturbo on 28 October 2019, 12:40:00
Can’t see how the altitude can effect power to much on a forced induction engine, all you need to do is crank the boost up to compensate, and the cars are running through thinner air so less drag.
Title: Re: Mexico F1
Post by: Varche on 28 October 2019, 12:45:05
Agreed.

Max was driving like he speaks. Interesting that Hamilton allows extra space for wheel to wheel racing with Verstappen.

Another good drives from Sainz in particular and Norris.

The altitude effect was on the personnel rather than the cars. Quite a few mistakes were made.
Title: Re: Mexico F1
Post by: LC0112G on 28 October 2019, 13:56:34
Can’t see how the altitude can effect power to much on a forced induction engine, all you need to do is crank the boost up to compensate, and the cars are running through thinner air so less drag.

Yes, but thinner air also means less down-force, and these cars generate huge amounts of down-force to allow them to go round corners so quickly. Changing the down force also cocks up your tyre wear and heat calculations. They all lost some of Friday practice due to rain, so they didn't have as much data on tyre wear as they should have, which lead to Ferrari going a bit too conservative on the strategy. If the Merc's calcs had been a little bit out, then Lewis's car could have run out of tyres with a few laps to go, and then it would've been a Ferrari 1-3.
Title: Re: Mexico F1
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 28 October 2019, 14:20:41
Can’t see how the altitude can effect power to much on a forced induction engine, all you need to do is crank the boost up to compensate, and the cars are running through thinner air so less drag.

More negative impacts than  positives, cooling is less, air mass is less so boost has to be much higher, down force is less so more wing needed.

Drivers will notice to
Title: Re: Mexico F1
Post by: Raeturbo on 28 October 2019, 15:19:25
Mm just read this, explains it all,  https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.formula1.com/en/latest/article.tech-tuesday-why-its-the-air-that-poses-the-biggest-challenge-in-mexico.6qKZ7LcCKBT7xPTihVjIoq.html
Title: Re: Mexico F1
Post by: ronnyd on 28 October 2019, 18:02:44
Good race.

There will be some strategist jobs vacant at some of the teams. Maybe it was the altitude. Oh and the pit stops.


The 1968 olympic games were held in Mexico city. The altitude saw the first sub 10 second 100 metre sprint when Jim Hines clocked 9.95 seconds. There was also a world record in the men's 400 metres, a record that stood for 20 years.

Distance races (5000m.....10000m .......marathon.  ...... were much slower than usual due to the altitude.

 
Also Bob Beamons long jump which broke the existing world record by quite a margin. Stood for over 20 years.