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Title: Don't forget...
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 December 2019, 05:06:29
... To vote ;)
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Post by: RossPhim on 12 December 2019, 06:39:17
Done DG, via post last weekend!
Fingers crossed!
 :y :y
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Post by: BazaJT on 12 December 2019, 07:43:38
Already done,just after the polling station opened.
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 December 2019, 08:03:48
Likewise  ;)
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Post by: Mutha Jugs n Speed on 12 December 2019, 08:09:42
Done by postal.....2 Tory and 1 Labour. ::)
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 December 2019, 10:24:17
Done.  :y
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Post by: redelitev6 on 12 December 2019, 12:03:56
There's an election ?
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Post by: henryd on 12 December 2019, 12:05:43
done :y
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Post by: STEMO on 12 December 2019, 12:42:30
There's an election ?
Nothing about it on the telly.  :-\
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 December 2019, 12:59:40
... To vote ;)

Yes.......Prime Minister Corbyn has a certain ring to it..... ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 12 December 2019, 13:57:18
Just been. Both voted for an Independent Brexiteer.
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Post by: STEMO on 12 December 2019, 14:05:24
I'm the only Blue in Barnsley  ;D
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Post by: ronnyd on 12 December 2019, 14:18:06
Just walked up in the pissing rain to cast my vote. I must be bonkers as none of ,em are worth it. ::)
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 December 2019, 14:48:25
Voted......in the pissing rain.
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Post by: Nick W on 12 December 2019, 16:49:42
I'm the only Blue in Barnsley  ;D


other way round here; we can only hope to reduce her majority.
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Post by: TheBoy on 12 December 2019, 17:26:00
I knew there was something about today.


How on earth can anyone possibly forget.  The media have been wanking themselves senseless for weeks. Still, its made all but the saddest forget about Brexit.
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Post by: redelitev6 on 12 December 2019, 17:33:13
I knew there was something about today.


How on earth can anyone possibly forget.  The media have been wanking themselves senseless for weeks. Still, its made all but the saddest forget about Brexit.
What's this Brexit of which you speak ?
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Post by: TheBoy on 12 December 2019, 17:35:09
I knew there was something about today.


How on earth can anyone possibly forget.  The media have been wanking themselves senseless for weeks. Still, its made all but the saddest forget about Brexit.
What's this Brexit of which you speak ?
I've forgotten ;D
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Post by: STEMO on 12 December 2019, 17:36:33
You'll be reminded very soon.
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Post by: TheBoy on 12 December 2019, 18:13:57
Just rechecked our local candidates in the hope that a viable candidate had come forward. But no.

Usual bunch of knobjockeys from the main 4. One of the independents is a nutter, the other is a fan of trashing all the countryside to create houses for the lame and lazy.

None mention HS2 - in fact I've only seen the Brexit Party mention in, but they aren't standing.


What a choice of nobodies.  Christ, I'm even considering the greens :o.


If Opti was here, I reckon he'd go Labour, as she is only a single bag job. Leadsom and the Greens are both 3 bag jobs.


Fortunately, I think Labour stand no chance here, as its Tory belt, and this constituency were bigoted enough to vote Leave 54/46%.  Although highly scientific research* shows nobody here likes Boris' deal, so who knows.



*asking me mates down the pub ;D
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Post by: dave the builder on 12 December 2019, 18:16:31
I've done the GREEN thing ,left my thirsty V6 Omega parked outside my house  :)
walked to the other side of the road ,the polling station is directly opposite me ,so about 10 paces  ;D
i didn't vote for the green party though  ::)
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Post by: TheBoy on 12 December 2019, 18:17:14
I *WILL* go down and vote, but not sure I can bring myself to vote for any of the 6 candidates. Might be a spoil as a protest.


In India (I think), there is a NOTA option, which if it gets a certain percentage, that region has to go through the process again, but none of the original candidates are allowed to stand.  I think that's a cracking idea.
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Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 12 December 2019, 18:23:47
Imo, how you vote depends on whether or not you live in a marginal seat. If I lived in one I would hold my nose and vote Tory.
I don't, so I have the luxury of having a protest vote.
It has to be any tactic which doesn't allow Corbyn into number 10, unless your a lunatic by the name of Michael Heseltine, who said on tv last night that he would rather that scenario than a Tory victory. His europhillia has literally driven him past the point of insanity.
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Post by: TheBoy on 12 December 2019, 18:26:53
Imo, how you vote depends on whether or not you live in a marginal seat. If I lived in one I would hold my nose and vote Tory.
I don't, so I have the luxury of having a protest vote.
It has to be any tactic which doesn't allow Corbyn into number 10, unless your a lunatic by the name of Michael Heseltine, who said on tv last night that he would rather that scenario than a Tory victory. His europhillia has literally driven him past the point of insanity.
Hesaltine - a local resident here - has a monk on because the government have approved and funded a new bypass around Farthinghoe. Its made him quite cross, which has cheered up the last few weeks ;D
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Post by: Andy B on 12 December 2019, 18:27:10
....

In India (I think), there is a NOTA option,  ...

That's what they said on the telly.  :y
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Post by: BazaJT on 12 December 2019, 18:27:48
Never seen the point of "doing a spoil" it'll get the same notice paid to it as not voting in the first place so you might as well save some time and not bother turning out to the polling station.I know none of them are really worth voting for but someone has to be in government.
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Post by: Andy B on 12 December 2019, 18:30:10
my dilemma was that the local Labour councillor has been good for the area but is against Brexit ...... and I voted leave!
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Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 12 December 2019, 18:34:19
Brexit is the only game in town this time around. Normal service can be resumed next time. Its whether or not we finally kill off whats left of our democracy or give it the kiss if life imo.
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Post by: TheBoy on 12 December 2019, 19:03:26
Never seen the point of "doing a spoil" it'll get the same notice paid to it as not voting in the first place so you might as well save some time and not bother turning out to the polling station.I know none of them are really worth voting for but someone has to be in government.
I see, understand, and accept what you are saying.

However, we are privileged to be able to vote. And I feel that everybody* should/must cast a vote.  That's just the way I feel.  But I am really struggling to put a cross against any of the wet dreams I can chose from.



*Those I consider eligible. ie, adults who pay NI and without a criminal record.
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Post by: Shackeng on 12 December 2019, 19:06:30
Imo, how you vote depends on whether or not you live in a marginal seat. If I lived in one I would hold my nose and vote Tory.
I don't, so I have the luxury of having a protest vote.
It has to be any tactic which doesn't allow Corbyn into number 10, unless your a lunatic by the name of Michael Heseltine, who said on tv last night that he would rather that scenario than a Tory victory. His europhillia has literally driven him past the point of insanity.
Hesaltine - a local resident here - has a monk on because the government have approved and funded a new bypass around Farthinghoe. Its made him quite cross, which has cheered up the last few weeks ;D
Hopefully it goes throught his garden. ::)
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Post by: TheBoy on 12 December 2019, 19:07:30
Imo, how you vote depends on whether or not you live in a marginal seat. If I lived in one I would hold my nose and vote Tory.
I don't, so I have the luxury of having a protest vote.
It has to be any tactic which doesn't allow Corbyn into number 10, unless your a lunatic by the name of Michael Heseltine, who said on tv last night that he would rather that scenario than a Tory victory. His europhillia has literally driven him past the point of insanity.
Hesaltine - a local resident here - has a monk on because the government have approved and funded a new bypass around Farthinghoe. Its made him quite cross, which has cheered up the last few weeks ;D
Hopefully it goes throught his garden. ::)
Sadly not.  As that would be funny as F
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Post by: Viral_Jim on 12 December 2019, 19:24:08
Cast my (completely pointless) vote this morning on the way to the office.

Like Eboy, I struggle with any of the shower of excrement that's on offer but hey ho. Given our constituency has never* had a less than 10,000 majority for the Tories, I don't have to give it any kind of serious consideration.


* At least once the turn of the century, which is all the data I could find
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 December 2019, 21:34:23
I *WILL* go down and vote, but not sure I can bring myself to vote for any of the 6 candidates. Might be a spoil as a protest.


In India (I think), there is a NOTA option, which if it gets a certain percentage, that region has to go through the process again, but none of the original candidates are allowed to stand.  I think that's a cracking idea.
Something to consider when the bullets run out ;)
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Post by: Rangie on 12 December 2019, 21:40:12
All done here 😎
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Post by: STEMO on 12 December 2019, 21:48:09
The time is nearly here. The bookies have Boris odds on for a majority.
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Post by: Nick W on 13 December 2019, 10:39:58
Imo, how you vote depends on whether or not you live in a marginal seat. If I lived in one I would hold my nose and vote Tory.
I don't, so I have the luxury of having a protest vote.
It has to be any tactic which doesn't allow Corbyn into number 10, unless your a lunatic by the name of Michael Heseltine, who said on tv last night that he would rather that scenario than a Tory victory. His europhillia has literally driven him past the point of insanity.


and that shows the tribal nature of British politics.
On the slightly more reasoned side, we were talking about this at practice on Wednesday evening when one of the ringers said "I've never voted Labour before, and can't believe how easy the current government has made it for me to do so".


Last night has ruined any chance of much needed UK government and constitutional reform for another generation.
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 December 2019, 11:00:24
You say that, but there's a lot of fresh blood elected last night regardless of whether a seat changed party or not... ;)
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Post by: Nick W on 13 December 2019, 11:10:05
You say that, but there's a lot of fresh blood elected last night regardless of whether a seat changed party or not... ;)


that won't change an outdated system.
Those new people are already working on their parliamentary careers.
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 December 2019, 11:19:18
They've five years to prove you wrong. I'm not naive enough to believe that being new makes them infallible, but I am prepared to give them the chance to try.  :)
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Post by: STEMO on 13 December 2019, 11:22:41
Not that much will change(for me) with Boris, but that was the best I could hope for. The change that could have happened with Corbyn would have definitely been for the worst.
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Post by: Nick W on 13 December 2019, 11:28:53
They've five years to prove you wrong. I'm not naive enough to believe that being new makes them infallible, but I am prepared to give them the chance to try.  :)


I've known too many politicians, both amateur and professional, to have much hope of that. The worthwhile ones are soon weeded out so as not to spoil things for the rest.
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Post by: TheBoy on 13 December 2019, 16:46:25
I thought voting was supposed to be anonymous?  I know my ballot paper can be traced back to me.

Isn't that a bit naughty?
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 December 2019, 16:48:50
I thought voting was supposed to be anonymous?  I know my ballot paper can be traced back to me.

Isn't that a bit naughty?
No, the electoral role isn't covered by the data protection act aiui :-\
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Post by: TheBoy on 13 December 2019, 16:50:59
I thought voting was supposed to be anonymous?  I know my ballot paper can be traced back to me.

Isn't that a bit naughty?
No, the electoral role isn't covered by the data protection act aiui :-\
But the actual ballot paper should not be personally identifiable, surely?
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 December 2019, 16:54:13
It technically isn't, in that the ballot paper tally and electoral roll are on separate pieces of paper... But it doesn't take a genius to match them up.
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Post by: TheBoy on 13 December 2019, 17:00:10
It technically isn't, in that the ballot paper tally and electoral roll are on separate pieces of paper... But it doesn't take a genius to match them up.
OK, it has a unique number printed on the ballot paper, which allows whomever runs the vote to see the name and address associated with that unique number.

Surely they would only do that if they wanted to store and us that data.  Added to that, lets face it, the civil service don't have a good reputation of securing any data, so I assume it will be available to anyone soon.
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Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 13 December 2019, 17:03:20
Sold to the Ruskies by Monday I should imagine.
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 December 2019, 17:07:33
If you wanted to mess with it, you only need to know any person's full name and address to vote, and as long as you vote before them, job done. Don't even need a polling card, so actually traceability is the least of your issues...

A couple of hours with a phone book and a decent map would probably allow you to cast a vote at at least three local polling stations before 8 am. Not sure what the punishment would be if you were caught :-\
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Post by: TheBoy on 13 December 2019, 17:25:39
If you wanted to mess with it, you only need to know any person's full name and address to vote, and as long as you vote before them, job done. Don't even need a polling card, so actually traceability is the least of your issues...

A couple of hours with a phone book and a decent map would probably allow you to cast a vote at at least three local polling stations before 8 am. Not sure what the punishment would be if you were caught :-\
No. My point being they have a record of who I voted for.
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 December 2019, 17:29:56
Theoretically speaking, but they aren't counted where you voted, so the two pieces of paper should never meet again once you have been handed your ballot paper  ;)
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Post by: ronnyd on 13 December 2019, 20:08:29
Have just bothered to check and the local Tory got in with an increased majority of almost 25k. That makes me spoiling my ballot slip totally irrelevant.  ;D






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Post by: TheBoy on 14 December 2019, 20:45:57
Theoretically speaking, but they aren't counted where you voted, so the two pieces of paper should never meet again once you have been handed your ballot paper  ;)
How do we know that though? I imagine the voting profile and demographics is very valuable....