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Title: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 September 2020, 13:41:08
An Alien arriving on planet Earth may well come to this conclusion based on the amount of black people in British TV adverts.

Of course, I'm obviously a racist for even mentioning this. :-\

Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Bigron on 08 September 2020, 13:54:26
Don't you just love the old films on TV where the sreets are in black and white - and the people are not?

Ron.
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 September 2020, 14:03:03
Don't you just love the old films on TV where the sreets are in black and white - and the people are not?

Ron.

According to Gov. uk.
 
The UK consists of ...... 86% white
                                  7.5% asian
                                  3.3% black
                                  3.2% mixed/multiple/other.










Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 September 2020, 14:10:12
Positive discrimination is just as dangerous as open racism.

There's a lot to be said for genuine proportional representation in the workplace/media/wider society...

But...

It would appear that even suggesting such a rational and considered thing is as bad as spitting at blacks and gays.

God forbid that someone should get a job on merit. For example.
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: deviator on 08 September 2020, 14:19:36
I don't believe the race problem is as big as people are making out in this the country. I honestly believe the problem is a class problem. Granted a significant number of minorities live in deprived areas, but these are still predominantly white areas. The biggest divide is between those with money and those without. If we had a race problem, we wouldn't have Asian doctors, who prove perfectly that even though their parents may have faced a race problem and a 'ceiling', they have overcome the adversity and made it one of the most respected professions. Should they have those jobs because they are a minority, no. They should have those jobs because they have worked hard and earned the right to be called a doctor.

However and sadly, it's just easier for people to shout RACIST at me.
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 September 2020, 14:33:37
Positive discrimination is just as dangerous as open racism.

There's a lot to be said for genuine proportional representation in the workplace/media/wider society...

But...

It would appear that even suggesting such a rational and considered thing is as bad as spitting at blacks and gays.

God forbid that someone should get a job on merit. For example.

Much like saying 'all lives matter'.......apparently this the mark of a racist and both blacks and wealthy white liberals will hate you equally.
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 September 2020, 15:02:29
Even Malcolm X recognised that "there's nothing more dangerous than a white Liberal..."

And last time I checked, he was as African American as Samue L Jackson :-X
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Olympia5776 on 08 September 2020, 16:52:10
An Alien arriving on planet Earth may well come to this conclusion based on the amount of black people in British TV adverts.

Of course, I'm obviously a racist for even mentioning this. :-\

S'funny but I mentioned that only last night to Mrs Olympia .
I was watching "Supershoppers " on ITV , I believe ,and every person bar the second of the two presenters were bame. At the end of the programme I was a little more than irritated .
Most ,as in almost all , adverts now have a wonderfully happy mixed race couple with their carefully shaded kids featured .
Bring back the Hovis adverts of the 70's say I ......

Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: biggriffin on 08 September 2020, 18:02:12
I have a relative who works in the media, I question them about the fact, that the Media seems to be going very colourful, she said it's all to do with the new diversity legislation. FFS.

I'm going to buy a black n white tv to do my bit for diversity ;D
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Viral_Jim on 08 September 2020, 18:46:11
The balance or imbalance of how different races are represented on TV and in the media is, like a lot of things a product of design by committee.

Very few companies will lose sales through an 'over-representation' of bame people in their advertising, whereas an allegation of being racist could easily do so, because we live in an era of trial by social media. So, from the company's perspective, it makes sense for them to use bame actors/actresses regardless of whether it accurately represents their target demographic or not.

Those who don't like it will, I am sure, vote with their wallets.  :y
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Bigron on 08 September 2020, 19:03:55
I believe that the problem has very little to do with racism and mo to do with territorialism. We are being overwhelmed by large numbers of those wo do not subscribe to our culture and seek to make it their own. If they don't like it here, they know what they can do!

Ron.
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 September 2020, 19:29:43
I have a relative who works in the media, I question them about the fact, that the Media seems to be going very colourful, she said it's all to do with the new diversity legislation. FFS.

I'm going to buy a black n white tv to do my bit for diversity ;D
Diversity only calls for proportional representation... :-X
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 08 September 2020, 19:54:53
The balance or imbalance of how different races are represented on TV and in the media is, like a lot of things a product of design by committee.

Very few companies will lose sales through an 'over-representation' of bame people in their advertising, whereas an allegation of being racist could easily do so, because we live in an era of trial by social media. So, from the company's perspective, it makes sense for them to use bame actors/actresses regardless of whether it accurately represents their target demographic or not.

Those who don't like it will, I am sure, vote with their wallets.  :y

Represetation......fine.
PC Over-representation.......not fine. :)

I was listening to mangina Jeremy Vine this afternoon. Black woman talks about BLM and racism. No counter argument from Mr Vine, or anyone else for that matter though. :-\





Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 September 2020, 20:00:28
That pussy couldn't debate his way out of a soya yoghurt :-X
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Viral_Jim on 08 September 2020, 20:43:51
I wonder if Jeremey Whine is on the new Director General's hit list. I do hope so.

Or rather I would, if I ever listened to the station any longer... ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 08 September 2020, 20:45:32
I wonder if Jeremey Whine is on the new Director General's hit list. I do hope so.

Or rather I would, if I ever listened to the station any longer... ::)  ;D
Might just gain some listeners to Radio 2 if they got rid :y
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: biggriffin on 08 September 2020, 21:19:14
I wonder if Jeremey Whine is on the new Director General's hit list. I do hope so.

Or rather I would, if I ever listened to the station any longer... ::)  ;D
Might just gain some listeners to Radio 2 if they got rid :y

 Along with fatty Feltz, that wining whily,  to name but a few,, I've had R3 on lately, can't be done with  dab to many adverts.
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Viral_Jim on 08 September 2020, 21:29:26
Tbh I only ever listened to that ginger bloke (not popular in these parts I know  ;D) and Bob Harris.

Could never stomach feltz, particularly at cr@p o'clock in the morning!
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Nick W on 08 September 2020, 21:34:30
That pussy couldn't debate his way out of a soya yoghurt :-X


He's not there to debate, but to encourage the whinging, whining and incoherent rambling of the callers. It's exactly the same thing Jeremy Kyle did, but for Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells(retd) If you don't find yourself shouting at the speaker, neither of them are doing their jobs.


It's why both of them are on my list for the wall, come the revolution.
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 08 September 2020, 21:35:20
I was listening to mangina Jeremy Vine this afternoon.

Clearly misread that as "magician Jeremy Vine" and wondered when he'd decided to fill Paul Daniels' bow tie...
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: 78bex on 09 September 2020, 01:50:57
I was listening to mangina Jeremy Vine this afternoon.

Clearly misread that as "magician Jeremy Vine" and wondered when he'd decided to fill Paul Daniels' bow tie...

It`s one hell of an act for the £700K the beeb are paying him  ::)
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: biggriffin on 09 September 2020, 13:13:15
I was listening to mangina Jeremy Vine this afternoon.

Clearly misread that as "magician Jeremy Vine" and wondered when he'd decided to fill Paul Daniels' bow tie...

 There's only one thing that Paul Daniels had that needs filling,and it's not his bow tie :o
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: 78bex on 09 September 2020, 22:00:42
She declined the offer to join strictly  :(

https://news.sky.com/story/diane-abbott-reveals-she-turned-down-strictly-come-dancing-invite-12065134 (https://news.sky.com/story/diane-abbott-reveals-she-turned-down-strictly-come-dancing-invite-12065134)
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 09 September 2020, 22:03:48
Pity. That would have been the funniest spectacle in the history of TV ever.  ;D
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 September 2020, 13:25:07
 With all this racial tension perhaps the BBC should bring back  ' The Black and White Minstrel Show'
50% white and 50% black. Surely nobody could have a problem with this. :)
Title: Re: Are there more black than white people in the UK?
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 September 2020, 13:52:23
With all this racial tension perhaps the BBC should bring back  ' The Black and White Minstrel Show'
50% white and 50% black. Surely nobody could have a problem with this. :)
Channel 4 'news' is already showing it :-X