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Title: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 September 2020, 12:37:56
Sadly after nearly 20 years and 4 different omegas, its looking like i'll be moving on next year  :'(
Cant justify 16mpg on a 2 mile journey to work then back anymore and LPG is getting hard to get off the beaten track  :(
Looking at the Audi A6 avant / Allroad or maybe depending on fuel consumption, a VW Touareg ?
V6 Turbo Diesel
Looking at a one registered before April 07 so I don't get my arse abused with the road fund tax  :-\

Needs to have some grunt, and tow a pikey van in the summer.

Anybody on here owned one ?
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: henryd on 09 September 2020, 12:54:37
Sadly after nearly 20 years and 4 different omegas, its looking like i'll be moving on next year  :'(
Cant justify 16mpg on a 2 mile journey to work then back anymore and LPG is getting hard to get off the beaten track  :(
Looking at the Audi A6 avant / Allroad or maybe depending on fuel consumption, a VW Touareg ?
V6 Turbo Diesel
Looking at a one registered before April 07 so I don't get my arse abused with the road fund tax  :-\

Needs to have some grunt, and tow a pikey van in the summer.

Anybody on here owned one ?

March 06  :y, I have had my Touareg nearly 6 years now and would have another :y
Mine is the 5 pot but tows very well indeed,I would have the V6 next for even more tug
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 September 2020, 13:33:09
Sadly after nearly 20 years and 4 different omegas, its looking like i'll be moving on next year  :'(
Cant justify 16mpg on a 2 mile journey to work then back anymore and LPG is getting hard to get off the beaten track  :(
Looking at the Audi A6 avant / Allroad or maybe depending on fuel consumption, a VW Touareg ?
V6 Turbo Diesel
Looking at a one registered before April 07 so I don't get my arse abused with the road fund tax  :-\

Needs to have some grunt, and tow a pikey van in the summer.

Anybody on here owned one ?

March 06  :y, I have had my Touareg nearly 6 years now and would have another :y
Mine is the 5 pot but tows very well indeed,I would have the V6 next for even more tug



Is that the 2.5ltr Henry ?
Are they best or chain ?
What sort of power / torque does that lump push out ?
I've been told that these lumps are tuneable for not a lot of sheckles  :-\
What sort of real world mpg do you get ?
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 September 2020, 14:28:03
Make your commute longer. Omegas are notoriously crap on fuel when cold, although being manualised, it should be better than 16mpg :-\, but can't see anything similarly sized being much better on such a short run... I would go as far as to suggest that a known/well kept Omega will always be cheaper overall to run than a slightly newer diesel. The newer/more expensive, the more you need to save on fuel to offset the purchase cost, and it's not a linear comparison  ;)

Budget is probably your greatest restriction on choice, but going too old leaves you exposed to timing chain and drivetrain wear, not to mention early dpf issues and fuel pump/injector failure. And it is almost impossible to avoid the DSG shaped elephant in the corner.

Not diesel, but probably more fun... https://www.elitecar.co.uk/used-cars/vauxhall-vxr8-6-0-v8-auto-4dr-bordon-202008011977816 :D

Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 September 2020, 15:09:18
Make your commute longer. Omegas are notoriously crap on fuel when cold, although being manualised, it should be better than 16mpg :-\, but can't see anything similarly sized being much better on such a short run... I would go as far as to suggest that a known/well kept Omega will always be cheaper overall to run than a slightly newer diesel. The newer/more expensive, the more you need to save on fuel to offset the purchase cost, and it's not a linear comparison  ;)

Budget is probably your greatest restriction on choice, but going too old leaves you exposed to timing chain and drivetrain wear, not to mention early dpf issues and fuel pump/injector failure. And it is almost impossible to avoid the DSG shaped elephant in the corner.

Not diesel, but probably more fun... https://www.elitecar.co.uk/used-cars/vauxhall-vxr8-6-0-v8-auto-4dr-bordon-202008011977816 :D



I know where your coming from Al but at the end of the day, the Omega isn't going to get any younger and is only going to be harder to maintain in years to come  :'(
Myself and the wife ain't getting any younger and she has a dodgy back hence looking at the Allroad or maybe the Touareg. The idea is something easier to get in and out of.
Longer route to work means getting out of bed earlier and I do love my beauty sleep  ;D

Drove back from Skeggy on Sunday after a few days away with the van.
Going round Louth, the bypass is 2 big hills which the Omega bounds up and down with ease.
This time I chased a A6 Avant 3.0TDI up it for fun  ::)
That was until he got board with me, gave me the finger and took off at a pace that made me feel like I was in REVERSE  ::)
Very VERY impressed (the tw&t  ;D)


We only have about 3 or 4 grand to play with
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: henryd on 09 September 2020, 16:14:23
Sadly after nearly 20 years and 4 different omegas, its looking like i'll be moving on next year  :'(
Cant justify 16mpg on a 2 mile journey to work then back anymore and LPG is getting hard to get off the beaten track  :(
Looking at the Audi A6 avant / Allroad or maybe depending on fuel consumption, a VW Touareg ?
V6 Turbo Diesel
Looking at a one registered before April 07 so I don't get my arse abused with the road fund tax  :-\

Needs to have some grunt, and tow a pikey van in the summer.

Anybody on here owned one ?

March 06  :y, I have had my Touareg nearly 6 years now and would have another :y
Mine is the 5 pot but tows very well indeed,I would have the V6 next for even more tug



Is that the 2.5ltr Henry ?
Are they best or chain ?
What sort of power / torque does that lump push out ?
I've been told that these lumps are tuneable for not a lot of sheckles  :-\
What sort of real world mpg do you get ?

gear driven engine, no belts or chains or DPF, 175bhp out of the box but mine has been "helped" to around 210 so does very well, 6 speed auto(not DSG) and does about 23mpg around the houses down here and 30-32 on a run. It weighs 2.5 tonnes so can't expect brilliant mpg
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 September 2020, 16:24:26
That sounds like a better bet than the 3.0 V6 diseasal ;)
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 September 2020, 16:29:44
Sadly after nearly 20 years and 4 different omegas, its looking like i'll be moving on next year  :'(
Cant justify 16mpg on a 2 mile journey to work then back anymore and LPG is getting hard to get off the beaten track  :(
Looking at the Audi A6 avant / Allroad or maybe depending on fuel consumption, a VW Touareg ?
V6 Turbo Diesel
Looking at a one registered before April 07 so I don't get my arse abused with the road fund tax  :-\

Needs to have some grunt, and tow a pikey van in the summer.

Anybody on here owned one ?

March 06  :y, I have had my Touareg nearly 6 years now and would have another :y
Mine is the 5 pot but tows very well indeed,I would have the V6 next for even more tug



Is that the 2.5ltr Henry ?
Are they best or chain ?
What sort of power / torque does that lump push out ?
I've been told that these lumps are tuneable for not a lot of sheckles  :-\
What sort of real world mpg do you get ?

gear driven engine, no belts or chains or DPF, 175bhp out of the box but mine has been "helped" to around 210 so does very well, 6 speed auto(not DSG) and does about 23mpg around the houses down here and 30-32 on a run. It weighs 2.5 tonnes so can't expect brilliant mpg


What Reg / Year ?
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 September 2020, 16:31:07
That sounds like a better bet than the 3.0 V6 diseasal ;)


Yeh true ( but opps, that Avant impressed me the way he took off ;))
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 September 2020, 16:32:12
Any info / experience on the 2.7 tdi engine ?
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 09 September 2020, 16:54:46
Make your commute longer. Omegas are notoriously crap on fuel when cold, although being manualised, it should be better than 16mpg :-\, but can't see anything similarly sized being much better on such a short run... I would go as far as to suggest that a known/well kept Omega will always be cheaper overall to run than a slightly newer diesel. The newer/more expensive, the more you need to save on fuel to offset the purchase cost, and it's not a linear comparison  ;)

Budget is probably your greatest restriction on choice, but going too old leaves you exposed to timing chain and drivetrain wear, not to mention early dpf issues and fuel pump/injector failure. And it is almost impossible to avoid the DSG shaped elephant in the corner.

Not diesel, but probably more fun... https://www.elitecar.co.uk/used-cars/vauxhall-vxr8-6-0-v8-auto-4dr-bordon-202008011977816 :D

I believe this is ideal for curing depression and low mood. Perhaps it is available on the NHS. :) ;)
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 September 2020, 17:19:44
One can only ask... :D
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Entwood on 09 September 2020, 18:12:41
2014 Audi A6 Allroad, 3.0 ltr V6 turbo diesel here .. as a replacement for the omega... and in 18 months I can't fault it to be honest ...  pulls like a train , very good economy solo, decent economy towing, probably the best towcar I've had, handles my 1700Kg van with ease.

And I've not put a spanner or a screwdriver to it at all !!

If I was being VERY picky then the "boot" space with the rear seats "up" is somewhat limited, due to the very sloping back, but with the seats "down" it's a veritable chasm !!

Very pleased with it
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 September 2020, 18:39:49
2014 Audi A6 Allroad, 3.0 ltr V6 turbo diesel here .. as a replacement for the omega... and in 18 months I can't fault it to be honest ...  pulls like a train , very good economy solo, decent economy towing, probably the best towcar I've had, handles my 1700Kg van with ease.

And I've not put a spanner or a screwdriver to it at all !!

If I was being VERY picky then the "boot" space with the rear seats "up" is somewhat limited, due to the very sloping back, but with the seats "down" it's a veritable chasm !!

Very pleased with it


Hi Nige
What sort of mpg are you getting ?
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: henryd on 09 September 2020, 19:43:09
Sadly after nearly 20 years and 4 different omegas, its looking like i'll be moving on next year  :'(
Cant justify 16mpg on a 2 mile journey to work then back anymore and LPG is getting hard to get off the beaten track  :(
Looking at the Audi A6 avant / Allroad or maybe depending on fuel consumption, a VW Touareg ?
V6 Turbo Diesel
Looking at a one registered before April 07 so I don't get my arse abused with the road fund tax  :-\

Needs to have some grunt, and tow a pikey van in the summer.

Anybody on here owned one ?

March 06  :y, I have had my Touareg nearly 6 years now and would have another :y
Mine is the 5 pot but tows very well indeed,I would have the V6 next for even more tug



Is that the 2.5ltr Henry ?
Are they best or chain ?
What sort of power / torque does that lump push out ?
I've been told that these lumps are tuneable for not a lot of sheckles  :-\
What sort of real world mpg do you get ?

gear driven engine, no belts or chains or DPF, 175bhp out of the box but mine has been "helped" to around 210 so does very well, 6 speed auto(not DSG) and does about 23mpg around the houses down here and 30-32 on a run. It weighs 2.5 tonnes so can't expect brilliant mpg


What Reg / Year ?

Mine is on a 54 but 05 year
I should add that the fuel economy used to be much better,but since I have had the 9-5 aero both myself and the wife tend to drive it much harder because it feels a bit lethargic in comparison :-[
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 September 2020, 19:59:08
Sadly after nearly 20 years and 4 different omegas, its looking like i'll be moving on next year  :'(
Cant justify 16mpg on a 2 mile journey to work then back anymore and LPG is getting hard to get off the beaten track  :(
Looking at the Audi A6 avant / Allroad or maybe depending on fuel consumption, a VW Touareg ?
V6 Turbo Diesel
Looking at a one registered before April 07 so I don't get my arse abused with the road fund tax  :-\

Needs to have some grunt, and tow a pikey van in the summer.

Anybody on here owned one ?

March 06  :y, I have had my Touareg nearly 6 years now and would have another :y
Mine is the 5 pot but tows very well indeed,I would have the V6 next for even more tug



Is that the 2.5ltr Henry ?
Are they best or chain ?
What sort of power / torque does that lump push out ?
I've been told that these lumps are tuneable for not a lot of sheckles  :-\
What sort of real world mpg do you get ?

gear driven engine, no belts or chains or DPF, 175bhp out of the box but mine has been "helped" to around 210 so does very well, 6 speed auto(not DSG) and does about 23mpg around the houses down here and 30-32 on a run. It weighs 2.5 tonnes so can't expect brilliant mpg


What Reg / Year ?

Mine is on a 54 but 05 year
I should add that the fuel economy used to be much better,but since I have had the 9-5 aero both myself and the wife tend to drive it much harder because it feels a bit lethargic in comparison :-[



I think I can understand that  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Entwood on 09 September 2020, 20:06:05
2014 Audi A6 Allroad, 3.0 ltr V6 turbo diesel here .. as a replacement for the omega... and in 18 months I can't fault it to be honest ...  pulls like a train , very good economy solo, decent economy towing, probably the best towcar I've had, handles my 1700Kg van with ease.

And I've not put a spanner or a screwdriver to it at all !!

If I was being VERY picky then the "boot" space with the rear seats "up" is somewhat limited, due to the very sloping back, but with the seats "down" it's a veritable chasm !!

Very pleased with it


Hi Nige
What sort of mpg are you getting ?

On solo runs it's averaging around 35 mpg ... best is 43.2 mpg .. that was a trip to londoninium and back when it was limited to 50mph most of both ways !!

Towing it's around 23 mpg ... 

the spreadsheet at the moment shows an overall 28.1 mpg, over 7762 miles of which 5820 have been towing.

I know that over 18 months that's a very small mileage .. but between 13 February 2020 and 17 August 2020 she only did 740 miles !!! also... as I don't want to wreck the DPF we are now using the wifes cl-i-o  for journeys of less than 20 miles each way.

HTH
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 September 2020, 20:18:50
2014 Audi A6 Allroad, 3.0 ltr V6 turbo diesel here .. as a replacement for the omega... and in 18 months I can't fault it to be honest ...  pulls like a train , very good economy solo, decent economy towing, probably the best towcar I've had, handles my 1700Kg van with ease.

And I've not put a spanner or a screwdriver to it at all !!

If I was being VERY picky then the "boot" space with the rear seats "up" is somewhat limited, due to the very sloping back, but with the seats "down" it's a veritable chasm !!

Very pleased with it


Hi Nige
What sort of mpg are you getting ?

On solo runs it's averaging around 35 mpg ... best is 43.2 mpg .. that was a trip to londoninium and back when it was limited to 50mph most of both ways !!

Towing it's around 23 mpg ... 

the spreadsheet at the moment shows an overall 28.1 mpg, over 7762 miles of which 5820 have been towing.

I know that over 18 months that's a very small mileage .. but between 13 February 2020 and 17 August 2020 she only did 740 miles !!! also... as I don't want to wreck the DPF we are now using the wifes cl-i-o  for journeys of less than 20 miles each way.

HTH


That's great  :y

Been talking to Loo Knee who drives a chipped 3ltr BMW nowadays and he says similar to you  :)

Just had a chat with a bloke about his 06 Avant S-Line with the non DPF / cheap road tax going at a very reasonable price.

Got a feeling the wife ain't gonna love me anymore in a few days  ;D

Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 September 2020, 20:24:37
If you think the Omega is a bit low for getting in and out of, then you're going to hate the A6 in that trim :-X
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 September 2020, 20:53:22
If you think the Omega is a bit low for getting in and out of, then you're going to hate the A6 in that trim :-X


I’m okay.
Just thinking of the wife in the future
Maybe dig the old dog ramp out and pop the tailgate 🤣

The more I think about it, the toureg is too much for
90% town work and finding a allroad at the right price and year is looking slim.

If I get this one at this price and it doesn’t work out
I should be able to shift it next year without loss
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 September 2020, 21:07:25
The Allroad was introduced in '98 or so ;)

Alternatively...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009-SEAT-Altea-2-0-T-FSi-FR-Ex-Police-Estate-Petrol-Manual-/324173079359

Essentially a good looking Golf with a slightly higher seating position  ;)
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Nick W on 09 September 2020, 21:17:39
Do you really need an Allroad? It's just a jacked up A6 estate, the same mechanical bits are easily found in the 'normal' cars too.
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Entwood on 09 September 2020, 21:25:05
Do you really need an Allroad? It's just a jacked up A6 estate, the same mechanical bits are easily found in the 'normal' cars too.

For pulling a tin-tent as he does, I can only report how good the Allroad is. The self levelling suspension is brilliant, the "offroad" option gives excellent ground clearance in some rutted fields, (stops the van nosewheel digging in) and the all wheel drive goes a long way to ensuring you don't get stuck in mud .. although the road tyres are obviously a weak point in really muddy conditions
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 09 September 2020, 21:54:15
Yours is significantly newer/better specced than the budget would allow.  :-\
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 September 2020, 23:52:44
The Allroad was introduced in '98 or so ;)

Alternatively...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2009-SEAT-Altea-2-0-T-FSi-FR-Ex-Police-Estate-Petrol-Manual-/324173079359

Essentially a good looking Golf with a slightly higher seating position  ;)


Very similar to the Golf Plus from a few years ago that a mate had.
Trying to keep away from front wheel drive if i'm honest  :)
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 09 September 2020, 23:55:05
Do you really need an Allroad? It's just a jacked up A6 estate, the same mechanical bits are easily found in the 'normal' cars too.

Agree Nick.
Would have been nice to have got a allroad in budget and in the lower tax bracket but looking at what's out there, its looking like a non starter  :(
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 September 2020, 00:05:10
I've eyeballed a 06 plate (6/3/06) Avant 3ltr tdi down in Derbyshire.
Mileage is a bit high but looks well looked after.
Quite cheap £2200 with the added bonus of no DPF.
10 months MOT and looking at the MOT history, its been looked after with very few things every picked up  :y

Looking like my Mv6 estate may be up for sale soon  ;) ;)
Not sure what its worth yet but if anybody is interested in what it has had spent on it over the last 6 years of my ownership, PM me  :)

I'll let you know what happens ................

As always, thanks  :-*
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 September 2020, 00:27:23
Of course, you could actually try looking...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Audi-Allroad-2-5-TDI-quattro-5dr-/184420056114 :P

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDI-ALLROAD-QUATTRO-2-5-TDI-AUTO-SERVICE-HISTORY-/154080965582 more money, but arguably a better car ;)

The 2.5 is possibly a better engine than the twin turbo V6, certainly less complicated, although it is possible to get a 2.7 v6 diesel of '56 vintage in budget...
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Nick W on 10 September 2020, 09:16:54

The 2.5 is possibly a better engine than the twin turbo V6, certainly less complicated, although it is possible to get a 2.7 v6 diesel of '56 vintage in budget...



The V6 engine and gearbox are both very tough, the turbos are the biggest fault especially if the car has had long oil changes. They're also very quick when chipped to 350hp, which is the limit of the stock turbos.


I've a friend who ran one for ages, and his comment is if it says Bosch on it, it will go wrong. And there are a lot of Bosch parts in an Audi.......
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: deviator on 10 September 2020, 15:07:17
Cant justify 16mpg on a 2 mile journey to work then back anymore and LPG is getting hard to get off the beaten track  :(

Do you think a 2 mile journey in a diesel will do it any good?
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 September 2020, 15:32:44
Non dpf should be OK  :-\
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Broomies Mate on 10 September 2020, 15:49:33
I quite like this Clicky (https://www.togoautos.co.uk/used-cars/audi-a6-allroad-2-7-tdi-quattro-5dr-brentford-202009033244635)

Even though it is advertised as a 2.7..... it's actually a 3.0.  Been on the forecourt since April, so £4k should take it!
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: dave the builder on 10 September 2020, 16:56:11
I quite like this Clicky (https://www.togoautos.co.uk/used-cars/audi-a6-allroad-2-7-tdi-quattro-5dr-brentford-202009033244635)

Even though it is advertised as a 2.7..... it's actually a 3.0.  Been on the forecourt since April, so £4k should take it!
i'd want more than 300 quid off if it's been sat 6 months , those square tyres will cost more than that to replace with round ones  :P
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 September 2020, 17:31:55
Cant justify 16mpg on a 2 mile journey to work then back anymore and LPG is getting hard to get off the beaten track  :(

Do you think a 2 mile journey in a diesel will do it any good?

No as the engine will not get warm
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Nick W on 10 September 2020, 18:33:21

Do you think a 2 mile journey in a diesel will do it any good?


A 2 mile trip is a good candidate for a bike!
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 10 September 2020, 18:41:04
Or the smallest engined car you can find. Then have a proper car for everything else.
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 September 2020, 19:36:53
Or a LEAF/Zoe... One charge would last a whole month :D
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 September 2020, 21:54:11
Of course, you could actually try looking...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-Audi-Allroad-2-5-TDI-quattro-5dr-/184420056114 :P

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AUDI-ALLROAD-QUATTRO-2-5-TDI-AUTO-SERVICE-HISTORY-/154080965582 more money, but arguably a better car ;)

The 2.5 is possibly a better engine than the twin turbo V6, certainly less complicated, although it is possible to get a 2.7 v6 diesel of '56 vintage in budget...


Nah
Decided to go for the big lump  ;)
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 September 2020, 21:58:11
Cant justify 16mpg on a 2 mile journey to work then back anymore and LPG is getting hard to get off the beaten track  :(

Do you think a 2 mile journey in a diesel will do it any good?

No as the engine will not get warm


Agree but that's the shortest journey I do and can't afford to run 2 cars  :(
Also i'm a bit of a fat tw&t so will look shit in lycra  ;D
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 September 2020, 22:03:55
Or a LEAF/Zoe... One charge would last a whole month :D

Been seriously considering a milk float one day for when i'm even older and don't care about throwing a car around.
Will have to drop in price / increase in usable range first though  :-\
With a bit of luck, hydrogen will be viable by then    :y
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Nick W on 10 September 2020, 22:10:17
Cant justify 16mpg on a 2 mile journey to work then back anymore and LPG is getting hard to get off the beaten track  :(

Do you think a 2 mile journey in a diesel will do it any good?

No as the engine will not get warm


Agree but that's the shortest journey I do and can't afford to run 2 cars  :(
Also i'm a bit of a fat tw&t so will look shit in lycra  ;D


You don't have to wear lycra on a bike. I never have in over forty years.
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 10 September 2020, 22:13:24
Not even on a Friday night? :D
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 10 September 2020, 22:23:36
Cant justify 16mpg on a 2 mile journey to work then back anymore and LPG is getting hard to get off the beaten track  :(

Do you think a 2 mile journey in a diesel will do it any good?

No as the engine will not get warm


Agree but that's the shortest journey I do and can't afford to run 2 cars  :(
Also i'm a bit of a fat tw&t so will look shit in lycra  ;D


You don't have to wear lycra on a bike. I never have in over forty years.


 ;D ;D ;D


Sorry, always think of this when cycling is mentioned  ;D

(https://i.postimg.cc/ncG23xvp/IMG-0148.jpg)
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 10 September 2020, 22:48:03
Brilliant.  :y ;D ;D
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 11 September 2020, 07:40:53
Or a LEAF/Zoe... One charge would last a whole month :D

Been seriously considering a milk float one day for when i'm even older and don't care about throwing a car around.
Will have to drop in price / increase in usable range first though  :-\
With a bit of luck, hydrogen will be viable by then    :y

There are milk floats around which will easily out handle what you are proposing to get, as my neighbour will tell you  :y :y :y
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: pscocoa on 11 September 2020, 09:43:45
Sadly after nearly 20 years and 4 different omegas, its looking like i'll be moving on next year  :'(
Cant justify 16mpg on a 2 mile journey to work then back anymore and LPG is getting hard to get off the beaten track  :(
Looking at the Audi A6 avant / Allroad or maybe depending on fuel consumption, a VW Touareg ?
V6 Turbo Diesel
Looking at a one registered before April 07 so I don't get my arse abused with the road fund tax  :-\

Needs to have some grunt, and tow a pikey van in the summer.

Anybody on here owned one ?

If you are not going to do repair work on the car yourself then an ageing Touareg V6 could become a liability. They share a lot of parts with the phaeton and presumably the Bentley logo on there somewhere. Ran my Phaeton for 10 years and it was heading into pain in the ass territory when I got rid with various sensors acting up, power steering pipes corroding and other stuff which I was surprised at. I think Henry D does his own repairs but having seen the VW alleged quality to be a bit of a myth I would tread carefully. The brake discs were highly prone to corrosion if left standing for any length of time and had warranty battles on this in first couple of years even which persisted out of warranty. These cars need to be regularly driven a decent distance from my experience.
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: henryd on 11 September 2020, 09:46:34
Sadly after nearly 20 years and 4 different omegas, its looking like i'll be moving on next year  :'(
Cant justify 16mpg on a 2 mile journey to work then back anymore and LPG is getting hard to get off the beaten track  :(
Looking at the Audi A6 avant / Allroad or maybe depending on fuel consumption, a VW Touareg ?
V6 Turbo Diesel
Looking at a one registered before April 07 so I don't get my arse abused with the road fund tax  :-\

Needs to have some grunt, and tow a pikey van in the summer.

Anybody on here owned one ?

If you are not going to do repair work on the car yourself then an ageing Touareg V6 could become a liability. They share a lot of parts with the phaeton and presumably the Bentley logo on there somewhere. Ran my Phaeton for 10 years and it was heading into pain in the ass territory when I got rid with various sensors acting up, power steering pipes corroding and other stuff which I was surprised at. I think Henry D does his own repairs but having seen the VW alleged quality to be a bit of a myth I would tread carefully. The brake discs were highly prone to corrosion if left standing for any length of time and had warranty battles on this in first couple of years even which persisted out of warranty. These cars need to be regularly driven a decent distance from my experience.

I do but in the six years I have owned it its been maintenance and tyres only so I have been very lucky I think :y
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Nick W on 11 September 2020, 10:09:32

I do but in the six years I have owned it its been maintenance and tyres only so I have been very lucky I think :y


I recovered a number of early V6 Touaregs with serious engine or transmission failures. Interior quality was always unimpressive too.



Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: henryd on 11 September 2020, 12:03:30

I do but in the six years I have owned it its been maintenance and tyres only so I have been very lucky I think :y


I recovered a number of early V6 Touaregs with serious engine or transmission failures. Interior quality was always unimpressive too.

as I said I've been lucky :y
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 September 2020, 18:41:57
Don't discount a Volvo V70/XC70 Mr Gonads.  They might not be as sexy looking as an A6, but they don't rot and the 2.4 D5 has plenty of grunt!  :y

V70 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-Volvo-V70-2-4-D-SE-Geartronic-5dr/153850962898?hash=item23d23b63d2%3Ag%3AVzgAAOSwR4pd9zX6&LH_ItemCondition=3000%)

XC70 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-XC70-2-4TD-185bhp-AWD-Geartronic-2006MY-D5-SE/203097826867?hash=item2f4992e633%3Ag%3A3vYAAOSw30JfUmxj&LH_ItemCondition=3000%7C1000)







Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 September 2020, 18:54:27
Not sure that a picture of the car strapped to a trailer would be my first choice for a sales ad...  ;D
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 September 2020, 20:43:54
Not sure that a picture of the car strapped to a trailer would be my first choice for a sales ad...  ;D

That's a fair point.  ;D
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 13 September 2020, 09:19:53
Don't discount a Volvo V70/XC70 Mr Gonads.  They might not be as sexy looking as an A6, but they don't rot and the 2.4 D5 has plenty of grunt!  :y

V70 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-Volvo-V70-2-4-D-SE-Geartronic-5dr/153850962898?hash=item23d23b63d2%3Ag%3AVzgAAOSwR4pd9zX6&LH_ItemCondition=3000%)

XC70 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-XC70-2-4TD-185bhp-AWD-Geartronic-2006MY-D5-SE/203097826867?hash=item2f4992e633%3Ag%3A3vYAAOSw30JfUmxj&LH_ItemCondition=3000%7C1000)


A work colleague has a XC70 Awd Tiggs.
Had a good look and a little drive around month.
Yeh, its goes pretty well (he pulls a pikey van with it) but just couldn't seem to get my arse comfortable in the seats and our lass started whining about it been a Volvo so left it  ::)

Thanks anyway  :)
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 13 September 2020, 09:23:02
Or a LEAF/Zoe... One charge would last a whole month :D

Been seriously considering a milk float one day for when i'm even older and don't care about throwing a car around.
Will have to drop in price / increase in usable range first though  :-\
With a bit of luck, hydrogen will be viable by then    :y

There are milk floats around which will easily out handle what you are proposing to get, as my neighbour will tell you  :y :y :y


Hi Mark, What's your neighbour driving ?
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: TheBoy on 13 September 2020, 10:15:18
Don't discount a Volvo V70/XC70 Mr Gonads.  They might not be as sexy looking as an A6, but they don't rot and the 2.4 D5 has plenty of grunt!  :y

V70 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-Volvo-V70-2-4-D-SE-Geartronic-5dr/153850962898?hash=item23d23b63d2%3Ag%3AVzgAAOSwR4pd9zX6&LH_ItemCondition=3000%)

XC70 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-XC70-2-4TD-185bhp-AWD-Geartronic-2006MY-D5-SE/203097826867?hash=item2f4992e633%3Ag%3A3vYAAOSw30JfUmxj&LH_ItemCondition=3000%7C1000)


A work colleague has a XC70 Awd Tiggs.
Had a good look and a little drive around month.
Yeh, its goes pretty well (he pulls a pikey van with it) but just couldn't seem to get my arse comfortable in the seats and our lass started whining about it been a Volvo so left it  ::)

Thanks anyway  :)
I had similar issues with Volvo seats, both retail decent spec and base spec plod.  Though I know some say they are some of the most comfortable.  Which proves you always need to try cars before buying.
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: TheBoy on 13 September 2020, 10:16:19
Or a LEAF/Zoe... One charge would last a whole month :D

Been seriously considering a milk float one day for when i'm even older and don't care about throwing a car around.
Will have to drop in price / increase in usable range first though  :-\
With a bit of luck, hydrogen will be viable by then    :y

There are milk floats around which will easily out handle what you are proposing to get, as my neighbour will tell you  :y :y :y


Hi Mark, What's your neighbour driving ?
Last time I was there, a Golf. Over a wall ;D
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 September 2020, 14:09:02
Don't discount a Volvo V70/XC70 Mr Gonads.  They might not be as sexy looking as an A6, but they don't rot and the 2.4 D5 has plenty of grunt!  :y

V70 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-Volvo-V70-2-4-D-SE-Geartronic-5dr/153850962898?hash=item23d23b63d2%3Ag%3AVzgAAOSwR4pd9zX6&LH_ItemCondition=3000%)

XC70 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Volvo-XC70-2-4TD-185bhp-AWD-Geartronic-2006MY-D5-SE/203097826867?hash=item2f4992e633%3Ag%3A3vYAAOSw30JfUmxj&LH_ItemCondition=3000%7C1000)


A work colleague has a XC70 Awd Tiggs.
Had a good look and a little drive around month.
Yeh, its goes pretty well (he pulls a pikey van with it) but just couldn't seem to get my arse comfortable in the seats and our lass started whining about it been a Volvo so left it  ::)

Thanks anyway  :)
I had similar issues with Volvo seats, both retail decent spec and base spec plod.  Though I know some say they are some of the most comfortable.  Which proves you always need to try cars before buying.

The seats in my V70 are a bit like a comfy saggy old armchair, which took a bit of getting used to after the BMW's firm and grippy seats.  ;D
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 September 2020, 14:17:12
Or a LEAF/Zoe... One charge would last a whole month :D

Been seriously considering a milk float one day for when i'm even older and don't care about throwing a car around.
Will have to drop in price / increase in usable range first though  :-\
With a bit of luck, hydrogen will be viable by then    :y

There are milk floats around which will easily out handle what you are proposing to get, as my neighbour will tell you  :y :y :y


Hi Mark, What's your neighbour driving ?

BMW 1 series  :y
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 17 September 2020, 15:28:28
Drove very well with no squeaks or rattles but a total shed  :(
Dodgy rear windows, windscreen, battered interior, outside not much better, potential starting problem and it was that dirty inside you would have to wipe your feet after getting out and shower too  :'(

Walked away  :y
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 September 2020, 18:22:08
Arschsprung durch Technik and all that...  :D
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: tigers_gonads on 17 September 2020, 18:44:54
Arschsprung durch Technik and all that...  :D


We really need a "Like" button on this forum  ;D
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: 456lbft on 07 October 2020, 14:11:21
I've just been considering the question of what to replace an Omega with, and stumbled on the Honda Legend.  Due to seemingly massive depreciation later ones are within budget, they share big saloon creature comforts, V6 petrol running costs which I am slowly becoming accustomed to (probably even worse than Omega give the extra weight of modern toys and safety) and add 4 wheel drive, and Jap built reliability (assuming they have been maintained properly, and not Gumtreed).  What does the audience think?
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Nick W on 07 October 2020, 14:14:14
Hondas don't go wrong much, but when they do the parts prices are horrific.


The biggest problem with a Legend is how are you going to find one?


Four wheel drive????
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 07 October 2020, 14:15:12
Research the V6 carefully, reasonably good seller in the US son information should be easy enough to find.

Cambelt driven 3.5 mounted for wwd...
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: 456lbft on 07 October 2020, 14:28:13
Hondas don't go wrong much, but when they do the parts prices are horrific.


The biggest problem with a Legend is how are you going to find one?


Four wheel drive????
Admittedly not very centrally located! But 30second search on AT->
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160167344?model=LEGEND&radius=1501&make=HONDA&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=nn113dp&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160167344?model=LEGEND&radius=1501&make=HONDA&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=nn113dp&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: 456lbft on 07 October 2020, 14:31:50
Research the V6 carefully, reasonably good seller in the US son information should be easy enough to find.

Cambelt driven 3.5 mounted for wwd...
A friend in Texas has the 2 door version with the same engine, currently on 300,000miles and still going strong...
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Nick W on 07 October 2020, 14:48:39
Hondas don't go wrong much, but when they do the parts prices are horrific.


The biggest problem with a Legend is how are you going to find one?


Four wheel drive? ???
Admittedly not very centrally located! But 30second search on AT->
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160167344?model=LEGEND&radius=1501&make=HONDA&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=nn113dp&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160167344?model=LEGEND&radius=1501&make=HONDA&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=nn113dp&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)


You learn something everyday :y


That would be very tempting.
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 October 2020, 15:41:36
As with all Jap cars of age, its rust that kills them, so check very carefully, particularly the likes of cross members, sub frames and the bolt on bits
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: 456lbft on 07 October 2020, 15:50:23
As with all Jap cars of age, its rust that kills them, so check very carefully, particularly the likes of cross members, sub frames and the bolt on bits
Just like an Omega then :y But with much more expensive replacement panels.
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: henryd on 07 October 2020, 16:19:55
Hondas don't go wrong much, but when they do the parts prices are horrific.


The biggest problem with a Legend is how are you going to find one?


Four wheel drive????
Admittedly not very centrally located! But 30second search on AT->
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160167344?model=LEGEND&radius=1501&make=HONDA&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=nn113dp&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160167344?model=LEGEND&radius=1501&make=HONDA&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=nn113dp&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)

Nice looking car that :y
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 October 2020, 16:23:50
As with all Jap cars of age, its rust that kills them, so check very carefully, particularly the likes of cross members, sub frames and the bolt on bits
Just like an Omega then :y But with much more expensive replacement panels.

To be honest, I find they fair far worse, and show the issues earlier, and sadly in areas less obvious  :y
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 07 October 2020, 16:24:39
Hondas don't go wrong much, but when they do the parts prices are horrific.


The biggest problem with a Legend is how are you going to find one?


Four wheel drive????
Admittedly not very centrally located! But 30second search on AT->
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160167344?model=LEGEND&radius=1501&make=HONDA&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=nn113dp&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160167344?model=LEGEND&radius=1501&make=HONDA&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=nn113dp&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)

Nice looking car that :y

Corrected, they have nothing positive in the looks department (the very latest Hondas are even worse!)  :y
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: 456lbft on 07 October 2020, 16:36:06
Hondas don't go wrong much, but when they do the parts prices are horrific.


The biggest problem with a Legend is how are you going to find one?


Four wheel drive????
Admittedly not very centrally located! But 30second search on AT->
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160167344?model=LEGEND&radius=1501&make=HONDA&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=nn113dp&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160167344?model=LEGEND&radius=1501&make=HONDA&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=nn113dp&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)

Nice looking car that :y

Corrected, they have nothing positive in the looks department (the very latest Hondas are even worse!)  :y
I quite like the understated (bland) exterior, the interior looks comfy.  If it's looks you're after there's always another 3.2V6 to consider
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10185719?cId=10825963&cId=10848611&cId=10185719&cId=10807633&cId=10613803&cId=10845606&cId=10887812&cId=10875826&cId=10891450 (https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10185719?cId=10825963&cId=10848611&cId=10185719&cId=10807633&cId=10613803&cId=10845606&cId=10887812&cId=10875826&cId=10891450)
But I'm not sure I'm that brave...
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Nick W on 07 October 2020, 16:39:09

Admittedly not very centrally located! But 30second search on AT->
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160167344?model=LEGEND&radius=1501&make=HONDA&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=nn113dp&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160167344?model=LEGEND&radius=1501&make=HONDA&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=nn113dp&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)

Nice looking car that :y

Corrected, they have nothing positive in the looks department  :y


They're much better looking than their German equivalents with all the added 'design' which just looks hideous.
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Viral_Jim on 07 October 2020, 16:40:20
I was expecting that link to be an Alfa brera.  8)
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: biggriffin on 07 October 2020, 17:44:42
Arschsprung durch Technik and all that...  :D


We really need a "Like" button on this forum  ;D

 Here goes
 (https://i.postimg.cc/rwcNRQcc/b8e0ae0ea4bae4798716d521811cac11-finger-up-emoji-clipart-explore-pictures-thumbs-up-apple-emoji-320.jpg)
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 07 October 2020, 19:18:10
Hondas don't go wrong much, but when they do the parts prices are horrific.


The biggest problem with a Legend is how are you going to find one?


Four wheel drive????
Admittedly not very centrally located! But 30second search on AT->
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160167344?model=LEGEND&radius=1501&make=HONDA&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=nn113dp&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1 (https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202006160167344?model=LEGEND&radius=1501&make=HONDA&include-delivery-option=on&advertising-location=at_cars&postcode=nn113dp&sort=relevance&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&page=1)

Nice looking car that :y

Corrected, they have nothing positive in the looks department (the very latest Hondas are even worse!)  :y
I quite like the understated (bland) exterior, the interior looks comfy.  If it's looks you're after there's always another 3.2V6 to consider
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10185719?cId=10825963&cId=10848611&cId=10185719&cId=10807633&cId=10613803&cId=10845606&cId=10887812&cId=10875826&cId=10891450 (https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10185719?cId=10825963&cId=10848611&cId=10185719&cId=10807633&cId=10613803&cId=10845606&cId=10887812&cId=10875826&cId=10891450)
But I'm not sure I'm that brave...

I always think that Alfa's look as though the designer forgot about the front number plate when designing it, and afterwards thought Ah bollix, I'll just slap it there!   ;D
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: 456lbft on 08 October 2020, 11:09:48
I was expecting that link to be an Alfa brera.  8)
Brera looks nice, but not a booted saloon, or estate.
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: Viral_Jim on 08 October 2020, 14:14:38
I'm a fan of the hatchback/Shooting Brake type look anyway (not that I'm sure you could exactly describe the Brera as either of those things  ???) but on balance I think I prefer them just for their different silhouette, whilst maintaining that sexy alfa nose. Obviously the Busso v6 is the only engine worth having  8)
Title: Re: Replacment for the omega
Post by: 456lbft on 13 October 2020, 09:04:50
I'm a fan of the hatchback/Shooting Brake type look anyway (not that I'm sure you could exactly describe the Brera as either of those things  ???) but on balance I think I prefer them just for their different silhouette, whilst maintaining that sexy alfa nose. Obviously the Busso v6 is the only engine worth having  8)
I have never driven one, but they do sound nice :y