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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 October 2020, 14:29:21
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https://youtu.be/8LHXSgmmhuk (https://youtu.be/8LHXSgmmhuk)
If it is illegal, as suggested here, why is this racist crap being taught to our children?
If this is happening then it takes the form of indoctrination rather than education. :-\
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Schools aren't the only places peddling leftist nonsense. Media is just as bad whether it's cinema/tv/faceachebook, and companies and organisations are prone to becoming conveniently woke when the need arise. I recently saw a regerence to current segregated in house training in the US. I think it's in the attached vid...
https://youtu.be/IkHpbZx0SzM
Even if it isn't, the subject is on point as CRT is fundamentally about leftist control of literally everything from what we watch to how we think. And incase you dismiss it as an American problem, it is genuinely a global one.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/22/the-guardian-view-on-race-and-the-met-making-matters-worse
Nothing is enough for the Left, and if they can use your kids to take everything from you, they will. They will demand your left kindney, and when you concede, they demand the other one and your spleen.
Andy Burnhams behaviour the last few days is testament to just how far down they are prepared to stoop to get their own way.
Well over half of our Council Tax here in Sussex goes to the Northwest, but that's obviously not enough. >:(
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Schools aren't the only places peddling leftist nonsense. Media is just as bad whether it's cinema/tv/faceachebook, and companies and organisations are prone to becoming conveniently woke when the need arise. I recently saw a regerence to current segregated in house training in the US. I think it's in the attached vid...
https://youtu.be/IkHpbZx0SzM
Even if it isn't, the subject is on point as CRT is fundamentally about leftist control of literally everything from what we watch to how we think. And incase you dismiss it as an American problem, it is genuinely a global one.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/oct/22/the-guardian-view-on-race-and-the-met-making-matters-worse
Nothing is enough for the Left, and if they can use your kids to take everything from you, they will. They will demand your left kindney, and when you concede, they demand the other one and your spleen.
Andy Burnhams behaviour the last few days is testament to just how far down they are prepared to stoop to get their own way.
Well over half of our Council Tax here in Sussex goes to the Northwest, but that's obviously not enough. >:(
Found a new organ there DG. :o
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As a hetrosexual middle-aged sexist white man I am right at the bottom of the intersectionality ladder.
I need to identify as a black disabled lesbian, or I should shut the f*uck up. :)
My victim status is poor.
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https://youtu.be/zb3XEEStnxQ :-X
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https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1319285469809537024?s=09
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https://youtu.be/zb3XEEStnxQ :-X
I actually watched this in bed this morning while enjoying a couple of poached eggs on toast made by Mrs Opti.
Is this really for real? :-\ If so there is a kind of madness that nobody dare mention. :-\
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https://twitter.com/andrewlawrence/status/1319285469809537024?s=09
I think many of the snowflakes in further education are easily indoctrinated. :-\
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https://youtu.be/zb3XEEStnxQ :-X
I actually watched this in bed this morning while enjoying a couple of poached eggs on toast made by Mrs Opti.
Is this really for real? :-\ If so there is a kind of madness that nobody dare mention. :-\
This is the real threat from the Leftists :o
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https://youtu.be/zb3XEEStnxQ :-X
I actually watched this in bed this morning while enjoying a couple of poached eggs on toast made by Mrs Opti.
Is this really for real? :-\ If so there is a kind of madness that nobody dare mention. :-\
This is the real threat from the Leftists :o
And being fuelled by the bias, left, money grabbing Farcical BBC and SKY predominantly. Devious crooked ba&sŁards
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Not a fan of our Piers generally, but credit where it's due...
https://youtu.be/DK8g3yjwG2c
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https://youtu.be/cQBopAmefXo (https://youtu.be/cQBopAmefXo)
Wrong assumption? ::)
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Once again .. the truth doesn't matter as long as your pre-conceived agenda is followedand you can make a point to the "social media" followers
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Once again .. the truth doesn't matter as long as your pre-conceived agenda is followedand you can make a point to the "social media" followers
I would expect nothing more from Commie Network News...
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Once again .. the truth doesn't matter as long as your pre-conceived agenda is followedand you can make a point to the "social media" followers
I would expect nothing more from Commie Network News...
One good thing that Trump has achieved in the US is to ban the odious cullt of critical race theory. It is gaining traction here and many university snowflakes are fully indoctrinated by the time they leave 'uni'
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Once again .. the truth doesn't matter as long as your pre-conceived agenda is followedand you can make a point to the "social media" followers
I would expect nothing more from Commie Network News...
One good thing that Trump has achieved in the US is to ban the odious cullt of critical race theory. It is gaining traction here and many university snowflakes are fully indoctrinated by the time they leave 'uni'
You continue to devalue the young who go to uni Opti with an assumption that they will accept anything they are told. This is not true.
In real life the young of today, who especially manage to get to uni, are like those of yesterday, they question everything and as a very mixed 'culture' they have many, many political viewpoints about the past, the present and the future. They generally are no fools, as I had the pleasure of finding out when I attended uni late in life. In any one lecture a very healthy mix of political and cultural expressions were voiced from students who came from a very broad range of national cultures.
I remember my parents, teachers, and all around me having very different views on political philosophy and the events that shaped those theories. Views then and as now could be far right wing, centre, or far left wing. Some of the elders even tried to brainwash us with their ideals, but our own ideals rose above all that with me and my peers forming our own conclusions of what we believed was right or wrong, which generally I took into life as all others have before and since.
Yes there will always be a minority, even whole nations after the minority have got to them, who can be persuaded by extreme views and enact them. But no matter how far the pendulum swings one way, the educated majority make it swing the other way. Back in the sixties it was all about socialism against capitalism, and such things as "banning the bomb". Even my military father who grew up in the 1930's was a communist when the ideals of that took his fancy, but then reality struck home with the majority and our World going on to see the collapse of the Soviet Union and the easing of military tension.
I have gone deep there Opti, but what I am saying is that throughout history certain opinions have come and gone as political fashions change due to the realities of the time. The youth of today will grow up and become old as we have grown up and old, with them seeing what is the real political common sense to keep the World turning and free from, God willing, WW3, let alone an environment that humans / nature can thrive in. The young are fundamentally not stupid, although as naive as we were at their age, and will come up with collective answers.
One very real promise is they will not be as racist and ignorant as my parents generation was, and indeed as mine was, but will help the human race go forward together. ;)
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Ok, LZ, how many BLM protesters fall with the 'white middle class of university age' demographic?
No, it's not a coincidence...
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Ok, LZ, how many BLM protesters fall with the 'white middle class of university age' demographic?
No, it's not a coincidence...
As I touched on DG there has always been political “fashions” / ideology that has appealed to the young at the time. BLM is the current trend, the thing to follow, as was Ban the Bomb, Being a Hippy, and joining Mosley’ Black Shirt fascists back in the day.
All crazes that will tapper off as everyday life and maturity has its effect on the majority.
Read British history and you will see the rebellious (young) people of any period take on authority, the government, and the establishment generally to achieve their perceived perfection in life, that usually they never got until much later! The luddites, The Chartists, the Suffragettes, were all movements that were a mass threat on what was considered the established society, but tapered out as people and time moved on with slow change, but without fast radical revolution. Unlike of course in France in 1789, but a) we are talking about the hot headed French and b) they had a very real and reasonable gripe with the establishment that had to lead to the Revolution to change!
The young will always challenge, but all things will pass and move on with natural evolution. ;)
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Universities and latterly schools and colleges are instilling leftist ideals in the hope that at some point they will out umber the centre right older generations.
My question was a bit of a snare that you fell straight into. It's not a question of BLM being a fad, but rather the white upper middle class being the chosen mechanism for leftism.
For 'educated' kids, they are really stupid allowing themselves to effectively become weaponised drones.
Free speech, in its truest sense, is defined by freedom of thought. These hysterical unpeaceful protesters are so brainwashed that they don't even realise that what they are doing wasn't even their idea. Grotty Tongueberg being a case in point...
Their only saving grace is that they have short attention spans, so most get distracted by partners/careers/kids. The ones that don't recover/grow out of their hivemind dystopia will die in their fifties in a tree near a dual carriageway. Probably from a cannabis overdose.
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Universities and latterly schools and colleges are instilling leftist ideals in the hope that at some point they will out umber the centre right older generations.
My question was a bit of a snare that you fell straight into. It's not a question of BLM being a fad, but rather the white upper middle class being the chosen mechanism for leftism.
For 'educated' kids, they are really stupid allowing themselves to effectively become weaponised drones.
Free speech, in its truest sense, is defined by freedom of thought. These hysterical unpeaceful protesters are so brainwashed that they don't even realise that what they are doing wasn't even their idea. Grotty Tongueberg being a case in point...
Their only saving grace is that they have short attention spans, so most get distracted by partners/careers/kids. The ones that don't recover/grow out of their hivemind dystopia will die in their fifties in a tree near a dual carriageway. Probably from a cannabis overdose.
As I have stated leftism / socialism movements are not new and can certainly be traced back to the 1920’s, 1930’s, and 1945 onwards after WW2.
As for your “snare”, you are not as clever as you think, as universities have always been breeding grounds for white upper middle class leftism, let alone communism, and has been a conduit for spreading such ideology. Have you not heard of the Cambridge Spy Ring when the likes of Blunt aided and abetted Soviet communism? That goes back into the 1930’s through to at least the early 1950’s. The Labour Party had hard left / communists throughout their ranks and on to the rest of our society.
Even all that weighty challenge to the British political system and British way of life as we know it had no immediate dramatic impression on it. Yes the age of aristocratic dictation and worker suppression gently faded with gradual change, much brought on by two World wars, only accelerated by the landslide Labour victory in 1945.
So yes, there is nothing to fear from movements that want change as they gave us the freedoms we enjoy today and will give us a better future. “Student” political activity is just part of the process and after maybe an ‘earthquake’ of action short term will petter out longer term with the underlying aims of the movements just becoming part of future everyday life. ;)
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These posts which pretend to use reason to explain their dogma, as religion preaches faith, are why I'm the first in four generations of Wheelers that isn't active in politics. It's also why I'm an atheist.
You're all using the same 'facts' mixed with meaningless wank-words to argue black is white/up is down/cats=dogs. And it is truly, tediously, desperately, oppsing sad.
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Probably the most reasonable statement in Gen Dis...
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While I agree with Lizzie up to a point - middle age is where the narrow waistline and broad mind tend to swap places - Im concerned by the movements in Uni,s and colleges recently to abolish and get rid of anything that doesnt fit the leftist worldview.
Even relatively moderate left wingers like Germaine Greer, being denied the right to speak their views in Uni,s because they dont exactly agree with the current fashionable thinking is scary.
If there is one place where every point of view should be rationally discussed its in Universities. If it cant happen there what hope is there for it happening in the wider world ?
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A better question might be why is it happening there of all places...
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A better question might be why is it happening there of all places...
What better place for an alien invasion?👀
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A better question might be why is it happening there of all places...
What better place for an alien invasion?👀
The Block? :D
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While I agree with Lizzie up to a point - middle age is where the narrow waistline and broad mind tend to swap places - Im concerned by the movements in Uni,s and colleges recently to abolish and get rid of anything that doesnt fit the leftist worldview.
Even relatively moderate left wingers like Germaine Greer, being denied the right to speak their views in Uni,s because they dont exactly agree with the current fashionable thinking is scary.
If there is one place where every point of view should be rationally discussed its in Universities. If it cant happen there what hope is there for it happening in the wider world ?
And in uni's it DOES happen, believe me as a mature former politics student. Everything is fully discussed and analysed with students needing to read many books and papers before compiling an essay that reflects their findings and conclusion(s) for assessment by their tutor. It is a very healthy process that balances ones mind and opens it up to more than preconceived ideas! I witnessed many young students "mature" their political outlook and take wonderful strides in their following contributions in discussions ;)
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.................anyway, why all this fear of what the youngsters are thinking or not?
I worry far more about the apparently "mature" politicians and peoples of this World and the crap being spouted. Just look at what is happening in the US to see where we are going due to (very) "mature" men and their followers. That fiasco is going to affect all of us more than any little student or group of them.
In fact out of the mess the young will learn the mistakes made and work to correct what is wrong with our societies, just as they have for generations before. :D :y
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My lad's at uni. He does his maths work, shags his girlfriend and eats shite. Normal behaviour with no mention of politics.
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My lad's at uni. He does his maths work, shags his girlfriend and eats shite. Normal behaviour with no mention of politics.
Exactly Steve :y :y
Unless you are studying politics, the girls and guys in uni will keep working on what they are aiming for in other disciplines.................and enjoy themselves (COVID allowing) as much as they can as the young in those age groups always have! :D :D ;)
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While I agree with Lizzie up to a point - middle age is where the narrow waistline and broad mind tend to swap places - Im concerned by the movements in Uni,s and colleges recently to abolish and get rid of anything that doesnt fit the leftist worldview.
Even relatively moderate left wingers like Germaine Greer, being denied the right to speak their views in Uni,s because they dont exactly agree with the current fashionable thinking is scary.
If there is one place where every point of view should be rationally discussed its in Universities. If it cant happen there what hope is there for it happening in the wider world ?
Yep...cancel culture is the order of the day in 2020. The students (those with the most influence) won't allow anyone who doesn't fit 100% with their post modernist view of the world to speak. PM theory has already decided they are 100% correct, and will remain so for all eternity. No need for further debate.
Post Modernism is no more than a dangerous cult. It does not rely on objective evidence or evidence of any sort to make it's argument. PM simply relies on the lived experiences of the biggest victim class. According to PM 'evidence' along with 'science' is simply a construct of white male oppressors and as such is simply dismissed as lies. The bigger the 'perceived victim' the bigger the say they have when 'obediently' following the PM doctrine.
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I remember when you used to be a fully signed up, card carrying lefty. You must be getting wiser as you get older. :y :D
A very well thought out and written post btw. :y
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I remember when you used to be a fully signed up, card carrying lefty. You must be getting wiser as you get older. :y :D
A very well thought out and written post btw. :y
I am a socialist in as much as I don't believe in taking advantage of, and exploiting other human beings........(with the exception of attractive and sexually available women, obviously) :)
But yes.....some of the dogmatic crap that is being 'obediently' lapped up by students of 2020 is of concern. It's the sort of doctrine you would expect to find in China or North Korea.
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Capitalism should be both parties taking advantage of a particular situation in a way which mutually benefits both. Its a superb system when operated that way.
People who use it to exploit others, are either to stupid, lazy or greedy to do it properly.
Socialism doesnt and cant work. It flies in the face of human nature.
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Capitalism should be both parties taking advantage of a particular situation in a way which mutually benefits both. Its a superb system when operated that way.
People who use it to exploit others, are either to stupid, lazy or greedy to do it properly.
Socialism doesnt and cant work. It flies in the face of human nature.
I believe (where possible) in equality of opportunity.
Equality of outcome I do not believe to be possible......or even desirable.
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My lad's at uni. He does his maths work, shags his girlfriend and eats shite. Normal behaviour with no mention of politics.
As a God fearing church goer I don't hold with sex before marriage. I think your lad should 'slip his ring over her finger' before engaging in any rumpo. ::) :)
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Capitalism should be both parties taking advantage of a particular situation in a way which mutually benefits both. Its a superb system when operated that way.
People who use it to exploit others, are either to stupid, lazy or greedy to do it properly.
Socialism doesnt and cant work. It flies in the face of human nature.
I believe (where possible) in equality of opportunity.
Equality of outcome I do not believe to be possible......or even desirable.
Probably the best tool we ever had for that in this country was Grammar schools. Socialist dogma abolished almost all of them.
Luckily for both my kids, we still have a couple near here, which is a big part of why they both have good professional careers, despite the fact their Dad was a thick as pigshit concrete shoveller.
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My lad's at uni. He does his maths work, shags his girlfriend and eats shite. Normal behaviour with no mention of politics.
As a God fearing church goer I don't hold with sex before marriage. I think your lad should 'slip his ring over her finger' before engaging in any rumpo. ::) :)
I think he'd prefer to slip his finger up a female ring, rather than his own. But I don't know this for sure, of course :-X
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Capitalism should be both parties taking advantage of a particular situation in a way which mutually benefits both. Its a superb system when operated that way.
People who use it to exploit others, are either to stupid, lazy or greedy to do it properly.
Socialism doesnt and cant work. It flies in the face of human nature.
I believe (where possible) in equality of opportunity.
Equality of outcome I do not believe to be possible......or even desirable.
Probably the best tool we ever had for that in this country was Grammar schools. Socialist dogma abolished almost all of them.
Luckily for both my kids, we still have a couple near here, which is a big part of why they both have good professional careers, despite the fact their Dad was a thick as pigshit concrete shoveller.
Whadderyermean, was? ;D
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Stopped shovelling concrete 12 years ago. The rest still applies. ;D
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My lad's at uni. He does his maths work, shags his girlfriend and eats shite. Normal behaviour with no mention of politics.
As a God fearing church goer I don't hold with sex before marriage. I think your lad should 'slip his ring over her finger' before engaging in any rumpo. ::) :)
I think he'd prefer to slip his finger up a female ring, rather than his own. But I don't know this for sure, of course :-X
No...I refer to an eternity or engagement ring. The way your mind works, by thinking of a 'bumhole ring'...... :) ;)
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My lad's at uni. He does his maths work, shags his girlfriend and eats shite. Normal behaviour with no mention of politics.
As a God fearing church goer I don't hold with sex before marriage. I think your lad should 'slip his ring over her finger' before engaging in any rumpo. ::) :)
I think he'd prefer to slip his finger up a female ring, rather than his own. But I don't know this for sure, of course :-X
No...I refer to an eternity or engagement ring. The way your mind works, by thinking of a 'bumhole ring'...... :) ;)
I try not to think about bumhole rings, not too often, anyway ;D
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Oh dear, you two off again ;D
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Oh dear, you two off again ;D
It's something to do, on a cold, dark night :)
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Ok I've got the idea of the millenials but who/what the hell is generation Z??
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Ok I've got the idea of the millenials but who/what the hell is generation Z??
I think they were in Dr Who in the 80's.
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Ok I've got the idea of the millenials but who/what the hell is generation Z??
Post Millenial Snowflakes
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Ok I've got the idea of the millenials but who/what the hell is generation Z??
Post Millenial Snowflakes
They actually don't exist, only in the minds of people who've got nowt better to do than make such shite up.
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Ok I've got the idea of the millenials but who/what the hell is generation Z??
Post Millenial Snowflakes
They actually don't exist, only in the minds of people who've got nowt better to do than make such shite up.
It's one of the meaningless wank-words phrases I mentioned in an earlier post. One that's carefully designed to make a few brain cells rub together and give idiots a nice warm feeling between their ears.
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Ok I've got the idea of the millenials but who/what the hell is generation Z??
Post Millenial Snowflakes
They actually don't exist, only in the minds of people who've got nowt better to do than make such shite up.
Once again exactly right Steve :y :y
What is it with all this devaluing and demeaning of the younger generations?
We were once young and my children and grandchildren I am proud to know, with the former already reliable, steady, citizens and I can see no reason why the latter cannot be exactly the same ;)
There is just a load of old farts around (as there was in my day) that too easily start saying "it was different in my day" (yes it was and generally far worse than now in many, many respects) or "look at the youth of today, they should be in the army" (so that is all that they are fit for, or we need them to do as a society!!)................I could go on, but whats the point!! >:( >:( >:(
It is 2020 thank God, not 1914 or 1939 or the conforming, grey, 1950's so lets move on and live and let live. A lot of us in our age groups will be gone over the next 20 years if we are lucky so just enjoy what we have left! 8) 8) ;)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowflake_(slang)
Snowflake isn't a preserve of Gen Z, but to answer the original question, Millenials are followed by Gen Z and the next lot are Gen A.
There are as many baby boomer snowflakes as there aremodern ones and for every Gen Z snowflake, there's thise that have their shit together. And generally speaking you won't find them in the streets screaming about things.
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snow·flake (snō′flāk′)
n.
1. A single flake or crystal of snow.
2. Any of several bulbous perennial plants of the genus Leucojum, native to Europe, having nodding white bell-shaped flowers.
3. A snow bunting.
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Or... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowflake_(slang)
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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3fterm=Snowflake&=true
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I think the term 'snowflake' as used to describe the young of today, is to describe a generation of young adults as being overly emotionally fragile, and easily led. A generation that is unable to cope with adult life. This is certainly true of a number of them, but not all. Kidults, as they are somtimes called.
Back in 1914.......we had 'boys' go off to war who knew nothing about sex or politics. A kiss, the clitoris, and G-Spot would remain an unsolved mystery for many years to come. They knew how to be men though. The same applies in 1939-45 with 19 and 20 year old kids flying Spitfire's and Hurricane's......probably with only a one in two chance of returning back to base.
Would the young of today cope as well when the shit really hits the fan? Some would step up to the plate.....not so sure about some of the 'cotton wool' kids though.
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I think the term 'snowflake' as used to describe the young of today, is to describe a generation of young adults as being overly emotionally fragile, and easily led. A generation that is unable to cope with adult life. This is certainly true of a number of them, but not all. Kidults, as they are somtimes called.
Back in 1914.......we had 'boys' go off to war who knew nothing about sex or politics. A kiss, the clitoris, and G-Spot would remain an unsolved mystery for many years to come. They knew how to be men though. The same applies in 1939-45 with 19 and 20 year old kids flying Spitfire's and Hurricane's......probably with only a one in two chance of returning back to base.
Would the young of today cope as well when the shit really hits the fan? Some would step up to the plate.....not so sure about some of the 'cotton wool' kids though.
There's a phrase for all of the phrases that are made up by the 'clever' bastards who work for the agencies tasked with pigeon holing groups of people. Irrelevant shite.
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Previous generations of youngsters protested and even rioted when they felt strongly about issues.
However, I dont remember them painting "RACIST" on Churchills statue or climbing up the Cenotaph to set fire to the Union flag.
Maybe they do need to go to war to understand what it means to respect those who did previously to defend their freedom to protest ?
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In my experience over the last few years in HMPS, most new younger staff when given advice or being warned about timekeeping or appearance classed it as " bullying" so standards were dropped to accommodate them,as for go to war they could barely go to the lavatory unaccompanied..😄😄😄
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I think the term 'snowflake' as used to describe the young of today, is to describe a generation of young adults as being overly emotionally fragile, and easily led. A generation that is unable to cope with adult life. This is certainly true of a number of them, but not all. Kidults, as they are somtimes called.
Back in 1914.......we had 'boys' go off to war who knew nothing about sex or politics. A kiss, the clitoris, and G-Spot would remain an unsolved mystery for many years to come. They knew how to be men though. The same applies in 1939-45 with 19 and 20 year old kids flying Spitfire's and Hurricane's......probably with only a one in two chance of returning back to base.
Would the young of today cope as well when the shit really hits the fan? Some would step up to the plate.....not so sure about some of the 'cotton wool' kids though.
Yes, in 1914 many young lads, and adults, went joyfully off to war as they thought it would be fun and anyway it would all be over by Christmas! That's how naive, and generally ignorant, they were so the poor sods never knew what was to come when serving God, King (the upper classes who told them what to do all the time, and country who would deny those that came back home "a country fit for heroes".
Would the young of today be so naive? In the main most would know about being possible "cannon fodder" because they read and understand what happened before, so hopefully would not get so readily involved in such a stupid, waste of life, that the Great War was.
As for the young of today, yes they will fight in the army, navy and air force, but now many at levels that require real skill and so often diplomacy and knowing international laws when fighting a war. Most are well educated and join the services to learn a trade. They are intelligent enough to join for the right reasons, as my youngest son did when joining the Royal Engineers back in 1995. Now he is a railway electrical engineer in signalling and associated disciplines.
But are they stupid enough to join up for just a good fight as in 1914? Well........yes some will, but in the main they are not so daft and want something much more! If the country faced the same challenge as in 1939 against an evil force that threatened the safety, freedom and everything they treasure, like all there loved ones, then again YES the vast majority would still do so as did the young men in WW2, even when losses, like the total of 55,573, in bomber command was being so cruelly accumulated over 5 years.
It is so easy to base assumptions as a senior adult about the young when they hang around street corners and appear aimless. Now, come on let's be honest, in our youth we had contemporaries who did that, but can our whole generation be accused of being lazy and useless, as our then elders thought we were in hippy dress and the men with long hair? ::) ::) :)
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Previous generations of youngsters protested and even rioted when they felt strongly about issues.
However, I dont remember them painting "RACIST" on Churchills statue or climbing up the Cenotaph to set fire to the Union flag.
Maybe they do need to go to war to understand what it means to respect those who did previously to defend their freedom to protest ?
No they didn't, instead the anger of the youth of my day painted "Ban the Bomb" signs everywhere and various anti-Vietnam war slogans, along with "Give Peace a Chance" were they could. Also there were riots over the American war, especially outside their embassy. Then there was the union led protests, which came to a head with much violence around the coal pits during the big strike by the miners.
Certainly since the war, and I know before the war that of course I did not see, there have been regular protests over our countries politics by the then young and not so young. That is life in a democracy; in China that type of action is not so easy as the Hong Kong protests proved so well ;)
So why should the young of today be any different? :)
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The thing that makes them different is the fact that they will paint RACIST on Churchills statue and set fire to the flag on the Cenotaph.
Previous generations of Protesters wouldnt have dared to do these things
Full of entitlement, very aware of their rights, unaware of their responsibilities, and unaware of or have no respect for what previous generations went through to give them the privileges they now enjoy and abuse.
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The thing that makes them different is the fact that they will paint RACIST on Churchills statue and set fire to the flag on the Cenotaph.
Previous generations of Protesters wouldnt have dared to do these things
Full of entitlement, very aware of their rights, unaware of their responsibilities, and unaware of or have no respect for what previous generations went through to give them the privileges they now enjoy and abuse.
. Yes^^
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The thing that makes them different is the fact that they will paint RACIST on Churchills statue and set fire to the flag on the Cenotaph.
Previous generations of Protesters wouldnt have dared to do these things
Full of entitlement, very aware of their rights, unaware of their responsibilities, and unaware of or have no respect for what previous generations went through to give them the privileges they now enjoy and abuse.
Correct, Albs. But they're still not Generation X Millennial Snowflakes or whatever, they're just a bunch of entitled wasters who resent authority. All goes back to Blair, as I said.
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It erupted into the public arena around that time but theres more to it then just Blair. Its prevalent across the Western world, not just the UK.
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It erupted into the public arena around that time but theres more to it then just Blair. Its prevalent across the Western world, not just the UK.
You're probably right, but the question is...what to do about it? Because it's only going to get worse.
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Send out properly equipped law enforcement to quash it whenever it happens. Like they used to.
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As an aside, it has been suggested that minority groups generally have lower credit ratings than white people. The solution? Apparently it's going to be to increase lending to minority groups.
https://youtu.be/cadNySpwyCI
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1322963321994289154?s=19
Still think these people are a good idea? ???
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As an aside, it has been suggested that minority groups generally have lower credit ratings than white people. The solution? Apparently it's going to be to increase lending to minority groups.
https://youtu.be/cadNySpwyCI
https://twitter.com/KamalaHarris/status/1322963321994289154?s=19
Still think these people are a good idea? ???
Who said they were a good idea? :-\
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And why would it matter to us?
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It matters because it isn't exclusively an American problem.
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It matters because it isn't exclusively an American problem.
Doesn't matter to me, I'm not American. ;D
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The thing that makes them different is the fact that they will paint RACIST on Churchills statue and set fire to the flag on the Cenotaph.
Previous generations of Protesters wouldnt have dared to do these things
Full of entitlement, very aware of their rights, unaware of their responsibilities, and unaware of or have no respect for what previous generations went through to give them the privileges they now enjoy and abuse.
I fully agree as that really angered me as it was done by ignorant people, probably full of hate, who did not understand at all what type of insult they were perpetrating on most decent people who have an inkling at least of what those symbols represent.
However, they are a minority in terms of numbers of the current population. They are also the generation that WE have raised and the efforts over the last 6 decades to get away from automatic respect of our "elders and betters", the ruling classes, and the 'doff your cap' black and white attitudes of that past. We now live, for better or worse, in a time when the masses CAN feel they have the right to challenge authority and not go along with everything they say or tell the masses to do. It has taken centuries to get to this point in the country's political and social evolution, greatly accelerated in the twentieth century, which has been assisted by some very bad / crass/ crap decisions and policies of "the high and mighty" leaders of those times. Respect has to be earnt in the modern age, and in the twentieth century the high and mighty leaders proved how they should not be respected by way of their actions. The Great War set that off, with then many bad decisions that affected the working classes where over the decades attitudes have changed as they no longer feel constrained by the rules and regulations of their times.
Now I am a Conservative, tinged with Socialism, believing in law and order, but recognising the events of history and how the working classes were downtrodden and poorly rewarded. In the context of this thread, I also recognise the blatant racism that has existed in my time, and still does. THat is the cause of the disrespect that some will openly display in public, that may anger us as in the case of Churchill and the flag, but that is the democracy WE have created, in a society that values consumerism more than God, Queen, Country, and other people. At the same time the young no longer can see a secure work life in our, whats left, industry that we allowed to be discarded, so they continue to have limited choices that in today's world they rebel against. But WE collectively expect the young to just get on with it and moan when they do bad things. THAT IS THE PROBLEM.
What is now required is a solution, but I reckon that will take a little longer to come about looking at the continuing weaknesses in our political system and all the time capitalism exists as it does, which actually suits me (so I'm as wrong as many others!!) but is making the divide between rich and poor so much wider.
After saying all that, I will continue to state that not ALL the young are wasters and disrespectors, not by a long way, and actually are showing real grit in battling on to get the best out of life, just as WE did all those years ago, and previous generations did as well ;)
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People are flawed.....and many people who do great things are often the most flawed. The kids who pull down statues should be more aware and tolerant of this fact.
It was no secret that Churchill was a great admirer of eugenics along with many respected people of that time.
Marie Stopes
HG Wells
Helen Keller
George Bernard Shaw
Willian Berveridge
Teddy Roosevelt
Jacques Cousteau.
This stance was considered normal for the time and certainly not frowned upon. Much like being a slave owner a couple of hundred years before.
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People are flawed.....and many people who do great things are often the most flawed. The kids who pull down statues should be more aware and tolerant of this fact.
It was no secret that Churchill was a great admirer of eugenics along with many respected people of that time.
Marie Stopes
HG Wells
Helen Keller
George Bernard Shaw
Willian Berveridge
Teddy Roosevelt
Jacques Cousteau.
This stance was considered normal for the time and certainly not frowned upon. Much like being a slave owner a couple of hundred years before.
Yes rather than just mindlessly chucking Edward Colston's statue in the docks, wouldn't it be more productive to discuss what sort of a man would he be if alive today? ???
I would imagine he would still be a wealthy and successful businessman, but I very much doubt he would be engaging in human trafficking. ::)
We'll never know I guess....
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People are flawed.....and many people who do great things are often the most flawed. The kids who pull down statues should be more aware and tolerant of this fact.
It was no secret that Churchill was a great admirer of eugenics along with many respected people of that time.
Marie Stopes
HG Wells
Helen Keller
George Bernard Shaw
Willian Berveridge
Teddy Roosevelt
Jacques Cousteau.
This stance was considered normal for the time and certainly not frowned upon. Much like being a slave owner a couple of hundred years before.
Yes rather than just mindlessly chucking Edward Colston's statue in the docks, wouldn't it be more productive to discuss what sort of a man would he be if alive today? ???
I would imagine he would still be a wealthy and successful businessman, but I very much doubt he would be engaging in human trafficking. ::)
We'll never know I guess....
Apparently he was slave trader and philanthropist. But we can only put perfect people on a plinth according to BLM.....good luck with that. :)
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Yes rather than just mindlessly chucking Edward Colston's statue in the docks, wouldn't it be more productive to discuss what sort of a man would he be if alive today? ???
It would also be pertinent to discuss the motives of who commissioned the statues, especially ones that are much later than the person's death.
Statues have frequently been resited or replaced by ones that are more relevant. Medway has statues of both Gordon and Kitchener that were returned when Sudan became independent. They saw no need to commemorate either man, and I wonder how long we will.
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People are flawed.....and many people who do great things are often the most flawed. The kids who pull down statues should be more aware and tolerant of this fact.
It was no secret that Churchill was a great admirer of eugenics along with many respected people of that time.
Marie Stopes
HG Wells
Helen Keller
George Bernard Shaw
Willian Berveridge
Teddy Roosevelt
Jacques Cousteau.
This stance was considered normal for the time and certainly not frowned upon. Much like being a slave owner a couple of hundred years before.
Yes rather than just mindlessly chucking Edward Colston's statue in the docks, wouldn't it be more productive to discuss what sort of a man would he be if alive today? ???
I would imagine he would still be a wealthy and successful businessman, but I very much doubt he would be engaging in human trafficking. ::)
We'll never know I guess....
Ah, yes. That is the important thing to consider when studying history. We must always remember the context in which that history was being created and not judged by the values of today. ;)
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My guess is that Trump will eventually concede.......but will still be saying "I would have won if it hadn't been fixed" as they lead the old boy away. :)
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My guess is that Trump will eventually concede.......but will still be saying "I would have won if it hadn't been fixed" as they lead the old boy away. :)
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In all honesty I think the pair of them are way past their best.
If Trump ever had a best !
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Presumably that is the same Lord Kitchener who has given his name to the HMS Hampshire memorial atop Marwick Head in Orkney... :-\
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Kitchener_(calypsonian) :y