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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Mr Skrunts on 21 January 2022, 12:41:44
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Seen this posted a few times today about £1000 fines for opening the car door wrong. :-\
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/new-highway-code-rule-fine-22818984?fbclid=IwAR3J3-71n_CZa7IUtasGZ3qq5xpNysGDWVfvDLQWaMUso5pqvfNL-bq5xf0
When are they changeing the rules that all wheeled vehicles must have insurance and the road user has been certified to use the roads correctly. :-X
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it used to be in the highway code that when passing cars you should allow a doors width minimum . :-\
I've not read the HWC recently ,other than news items about changes .
I think there will be lots more accidents due to the latest mad rule changes,
which are clearly being put in place to protect stupid people :(
It's against Darwin's Law of Evolution
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Are we going to see hundreds of Police Officers deployed to observe drivers opening their car doors with the correct hand ?
What a load of boll ocks.
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It has been offence to negligently open a car door and cause injury to any person for years.
This amendment to the Highway Code is try to prevent further injuries or accidents by trying to 'educate' drivers to check behind them before opening their car doors.
Nothing particularly new in my opinion.
"It is an offence to open, or cause or permit to be opened, a car door so as to injure or endanger anyone (section 105, The Roads Vehicles (Constructions and Use) Regulations 1986 and section 42, Road Traffic Act 1988)"
This is thus expressed as a ‘MUST’ in Rule 239 of the HC, which states that you “MUST ensure you do not hit anyone when you open your door”, with further advice to “check for cyclists or other traffic”.
This rule, however, is not well-known or publicised, and fails to adequately alert drivers to the specific risks to cyclists and motorcyclists if car doors are opened into the road without looking behind first.
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Are we going to see hundreds of Police Officers deployed to observe drivers opening their car doors with the correct hand ?
What a load of boll ocks.
Yes, Mick. I think we're starting to realise that everything from covid figures to rules of the road to percentage of people who are trans, etc, is absolute nonsense and bears no relation to the real world. The media are leading us on a merry dance and I, like you, am starting to take less and less notice of it.
Dangerous to take notice and dangerous to ignore, I suppose, but that's the way it is.
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Or has April 1st come round sooner than I thought....?
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Are we going to see hundreds of Police Officers deployed to observe drivers opening their car doors with the correct hand ?
What a load of boll ocks.
Very true :y
There are not enough traffic officers at the moment to police all the other breaches of law, but certain people in suits, in offices, obviously think there is! ::) ::) ::)
The situation with police number is slowly improving back to somewhere near 2010 levels, but they are a long way off of being able to man the number of patrol cars we need out there.
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It has been offence to negligently open a car door and cause injury to any person for years.
This amendment to the Highway Code is try to prevent further injuries or accidents by trying to 'educate' drivers to check behind them before opening their car doors.
Nothing particularly new in my opinion.
"It is an offence to open, or cause or permit to be opened, a car door so as to injure or endanger anyone (section 105, The Roads Vehicles (Constructions and Use) Regulations 1986 and section 42, Road Traffic Act 1988)"
This is thus expressed as a ‘MUST’ in Rule 239 of the HC, which states that you “MUST ensure you do not hit anyone when you open your door”, with further advice to “check for cyclists or other traffic”.
This rule, however, is not well-known or publicised, and fails to adequately alert drivers to the specific risks to cyclists and motorcyclists if car doors are opened into the road without looking behind first.
Who opens their car door without looking? Idiots. Will a media campaign make any difference to idiots? No.
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It has been offence to negligently open a car door and cause injury to any person for years.
This amendment to the Highway Code is try to prevent further injuries or accidents by trying to 'educate' drivers to check behind them before opening their car doors.
Nothing particularly new in my opinion.
"It is an offence to open, or cause or permit to be opened, a car door so as to injure or endanger anyone (section 105, The Roads Vehicles (Constructions and Use) Regulations 1986 and section 42, Road Traffic Act 1988)"
This is thus expressed as a ‘MUST’ in Rule 239 of the HC, which states that you “MUST ensure you do not hit anyone when you open your door”, with further advice to “check for cyclists or other traffic”.
This rule, however, is not well-known or publicised, and fails to adequately alert drivers to the specific risks to cyclists and motorcyclists if car doors are opened into the road without looking behind first.
Who opens their car door without looking? Idiots. Will a media campaign make any difference to idiots? No.
It is meant to make us change our ways and open doors with the left hand so the left arm goes across the right hand and arm forcing us to look behind and not just in our door mirrors. I suppose we have to cater for all the idiots on the road! ;D ;D ;)
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Are we going to see hundreds of Police Officers deployed to observe drivers opening their car doors with the correct hand ?
What a load of boll ocks.
Very true :y
There are not enough traffic officers at the moment to police all the other breaches of law, but certain people in suits, in offices, obviously think there is! ::) ::) ::)
The situation with police number is slowly improving back to somewhere near 2010 levels, but they are a long way off of being able to man the number of patrol cars we need out there.
If there are not enough police to enforce the highway code then perhaps they should have an online self certification system so that stupid people who break the highway code can report themselves :)
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Are we going to see hundreds of Police Officers deployed to observe drivers opening their car doors with the correct hand ?
What a load of boll ocks.
Yes, Mick. I think we're starting to realise that everything from covid figures to rules of the road to percentage of people who are trans, etc, is absolute nonsense and bears no relation to the real world. The media are leading us on a merry dance and I, like you, am starting to take less and less notice of it.
Dangerous to take notice and dangerous to ignore, I suppose, but that's the way it is.
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My attitude now is I've got this far in life with a bit of commonsense & I simply refuse to be taken in by all the nonsense being spouted by " educated idiots" facts & figures that simply cannot be proven one way or the other . I don't know if you have watched After Life ( Netflix ) but I am becoming more like the main character every day. 😄
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Are we going to see hundreds of Police Officers deployed to observe drivers opening their car doors with the correct hand ?
What a load of boll ocks.
Yes, Mick. I think we're starting to realise that everything from covid figures to rules of the road to percentage of people who are trans, etc, is absolute nonsense and bears no relation to the real world. The media are leading us on a merry dance and I, like you, am starting to take less and less notice of it.
Dangerous to take notice and dangerous to ignore, I suppose, but that's the way it is.
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My attitude now is I've got this far in life with a bit of commonsense & I simply refuse to be taken in by all the nonsense being spouted by " educated idiots" facts & figures that simply cannot be proven one way or the other . I don't know if you have watched After Life ( Netflix ) but I am becoming more like the main character every day. 😄
I've been like that all my life......never did me any harm ;D
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Common sence says you allways check before you open a door.
What hacks me off is the fact that 90% of cyclists abuse the roads & traffic lights and pedestians just walk across a junction with a phone against thier ear and dont even look where they are going. I can just imagine the attitude change with the new laws. :-X
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Common sence says you allways check before you open a door.
What hacks me off is the fact that 90% of cyclists abuse the roads & traffic lights and pedestians just walk across a junction with a phone against thier ear and dont even look where they are going. I can just imagine the attitude change with the new laws. :-X
Highway Code rule number 101: If you knock a cyclist off his bike, stop, return to the scene of the accident and wrench his go pro from his helmet while he lies moaning on the ground.
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When I did my driving course for the LAS my instructor said if you treat every other motorist as a complete idiot you won't go far wrong, words I've remembered for 45 years , and it's worked.
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Highway Code rule number 101: If you knock a cyclist off his bike, stop, return to the scene of the accident and wrench his go pro from his helmet while he lies moaning on the ground.
If the Go Pro is attached to the cyclist's helmet surely you should beat the helmet off their head with a tyre iron /wheel brace rather than risking touching things with your hands :-\ Covid is rife
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Common sence says you allways check before you open a door.
What hacks me off is the fact that 90% of cyclists abuse the roads & traffic lights and pedestians just walk across a junction with a phone against thier ear and dont even look where they are going. I can just imagine the attitude change with the new laws. :-X
I was in town today with my daughter and 11 year old grandson when a young chap whizzed by us through a pedestrian zone on an electric scooter. A few minutes later he came back down and zoomed up to us again. I told him to slow own, and he was committing an offence by using one of those scooters in the manner he was. First he said " sorry, I'll slow down" then f.... off!
Of course there were no police officers around. That is how the stupid get away with it! ::) ::) >:(
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Ii still have difficulty with the Spanish highway code. On dual lane roundabouts it is “ correct “ to be in the slow lane and go round not indicating at all until your exit. Assume everyone else on the road is an idiot serves well.
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When I did my driving course for the LAS my instructor said if you treat every other motorist as a complete idiot you won't go far wrong, words I've remembered for 45 years , and it's worked.
So true. Last time I was on the M1 a Civic Type R joined the motoroway about 6 feet in front of me, zapped straight into the fast lane, then used the slow lane to undertake cars in lanes 2/3 then lane 2 for an overtake going on to undertake 3 cars in the fast lane and carried on doing the same till I lost sight of him. :-X
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When I did my driving course for the LAS my instructor said if you treat every other motorist as a complete idiot you won't go far wrong, words I've remembered for 45 years , and it's worked.
So true. Last time I was on the M1 a Civic Type R joined the motoroway about 6 feet in front of me, zapped straight into the fast lane, then used the slow lane to undertake cars in lanes 2/3 then lane 2 for an overtake going on to undertake 3 cars in the fast lane and carried on doing the same till I lost sight of him. :-X
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Seen that type of driving so many times but they know chances are they will get away with it, however I believe some Police Forces are accepting dashcam evidence to pursue a prosecution don't know how successful the results are though.
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What if you don't have a left hand?
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The Dutch Reach sounds more like a kinky sexual position than a way of opening a car door. :)
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The poor motorist (us) are slowly and surely being forced off the road. It’s just a matter of time before they finally grind us down🙁
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However
https://youtu.be/BQYReHvnPfc
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Ii still have difficulty with the Spanish highway code. On dual lane roundabouts it is “ correct “ to be in the slow lane and go round not indicating at all until your exit. Assume everyone else on the road is an idiot serves well.
So, just like Milton Keynes then.
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If drivers now have to leave at least 1.5 metres distance when overtaking cyclists, surely that should mean that cyclists wont be allowed to use minor roads where there isnt enough space for vehicles to leave a1.5 metre gap. ::)
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If drivers now have to leave at least 1.5 metres distance when overtaking cyclists, surely that should mean that cyclists wont be allowed to use minor roads where there isnt enough space for vehicles to leave a1.5 metre gap. ::)
Remember, it's a speed limit. You don't have the right to overtake anything going slower, it's just accepted(well it used to be) that you might do so if it's safe.
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On the way back from Wakefield to Barnsley yesterday. Traffic light controlled road works, meaning only half of the carriageway was available. I was waiting behind several cars and there was a M&S truck at the front of the queue, bit of a tight squeeze for him when the lights changed, I thought.
So......just as the lights change, two cyclists decide to set off from the other end, the lights there were definitely on red. Mr M&S driver is having none of it and sets off from our end. The cyclists had to jump on to the pavement and were abused loudly as every driver passed. I don't know about the legalities, but I was very pleased the way it turned out. T.wats.
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So bikes won't be allowed within 1.5 M of a car to overtake either in traffic then ;D :-\ ::)
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The poor motorist (us) are slowly and surely being forced off the road. It’s just a matter of time before they finally grind us down🙁
Won’t be long before driving a car is something from the dark ages, wait till driverless cars have priority over driven cars. I bet in the early days driverless cars will be able to use taxi/bus lanes. Or allowed to travel faster than driven cars.
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If drivers now have to leave at least 1.5 metres distance when overtaking cyclists, surely that should mean that cyclists wont be allowed to use minor roads where there isnt enough space for vehicles to leave a1.5 metre gap. ::)
Will they leave us 1.5 metres when they undertake us in traffic?
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The poor motorist (us) are slowly and surely being forced off the road. It’s just a matter of time before they finally grind us down🙁
Won’t be long before driving a car is something from the dark ages, wait till driverless cars have priority over driven cars. I bet in the early days driverless cars will be able to use taxi/bus lanes. Or allowed to travel faster than driven cars.
And don't forget, from 2024, all newly designed cars will have to incorporate a speed limiter.
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The poor motorist (us) are slowly and surely being forced off the road. It’s just a matter of time before they finally grind us down🙁
Won’t be long before driving a car is something from the dark ages, wait till driverless cars have priority over driven cars. I bet in the early days driverless cars will be able to use taxi/bus lanes. Or allowed to travel faster than driven cars.
And don't forget, from 2024, all newly designed cars will have to incorporate a speed limiter.
I will be quite content with my oldly designed car...
That said, the way the traffic is getting around here, any limiter over 35mph is a moot point >:(
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I use my bike all the time when i need to do anything locally. I must sadly agree that a lot of so called 'cyclists', who are just pillocks who happen to use a bike, give cyclists like me a bad name. It isn't just cycling though, car drivers, pedestrians, dog walkers, bikers etc. If you're a t w@t, then you are still going to be one whatever you're doing. It's just life.
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So bikes won't be allowed within 1.5 M of a car to overtake either in traffic then ;D :-\ ::)
That's how it should be. :y They can't have it all ways.
Striking a cyclist with your car door is a fine art, open it too early and they spot it and swerve around. Open it too late and they just get a slap and wobble, and you damage your door skin, but time it to perfection and they hit the door edge, with no damage to your door but a world of pain for them. Of course, as you say, if they kept 1.5m away from motorists and parked vehicles they wouldn't have a problem as they'd miss the door completely. :)
Just to be clear, I always give cyclists plenty of room. ::) :y
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So bikes won't be allowed within 1.5 M of a car to overtake either in traffic then ;D :-\ ::)
That's how it should be. :y They can't have it all ways.
Striking a cyclist with your car door is a fine art, open it too early and they spot it and swerve around. Open it too late and they just get a slap and wobble, and you damage your door skin, but time it to perfection and they hit the door edge, with no damage to your door but a world of pain for them. Of course, as you say, if they kept 1.5m away from motorists and parked vehicles they wouldn't have a problem as they'd miss the door completely. :)
Just to be clear, I always give cyclists plenty of room. ::) :y
Should be like Deathrace 2000. ::)
10 points for opening a door forceing them to stop :-\
15 points . . . forceing them to change direction ???
20 points if they summersalt over the door :o
Double point score for each cyclist. :D :D :D
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So bikes won't be allowed within 1.5 M of a car to overtake either in traffic then ;D :-\ ::)
That's how it should be. :y They can't have it all ways.
Indeed how it should be :y but i bet it won't be the case >:(
How does a car driver police a cyclist entering into the cars "1.5M safety zone" :-\
I've already fitted the cars with front AND rear cameras
side cameras too :-\
brush or rake handle to stick out the window :-\ just to make sure they are 1.5 m away :D
Should be like Deathrace 2000. ::)
10 points for opening a door forceing them to stop :-\
15 points . . . forceing them to change direction ???
20 points if they summersalt over the door :o
Double point score for each cyclist. :D :D :D
unfortunately it will be the car driver that gets points but you are only allowed 12 apparently
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The rule change about pedestrians having priority at junctions is the stupidest thing and will cause carnage! >:(
A bloke walked out in front of me this afternoon as I was turning left into a car park. We glared at each other, but it was only when I was parking up that I remembered the rule change. ::)
Just as well I didn't hit him then! ;D
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The rule change about pedestrians having priority at junctions is the stupidest thing and will cause carnage! >:(
A bloke walked out in front of me this afternoon as I was turning left into a car park. We glared at each other, but it was only when I was parking up that I remembered the rule change. ::)
Just as well I didn't hit him then! ;D
I'm pretty sure that's always been the rule.
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The rule change about pedestrians having priority at junctions is the stupidest thing and will cause carnage! >:(
A bloke walked out in front of me this afternoon as I was turning left into a car park. We glared at each other, but it was only when I was parking up that I remembered the rule change. ::)
Just as well I didn't hit him then! ;D
I'm pretty sure that's always been the rule.
I'm pretty sure it hasn't. :P
(https://i.postimg.cc/MH0Cqyqb/highway-code.png)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10319707/Highway-Code-rule-change-cyclists-priority-drivers.html
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The rule change about pedestrians having priority at junctions is the stupidest thing and will cause carnage! >:(
A bloke walked out in front of me this afternoon as I was turning left into a car park. We glared at each other, but it was only when I was parking up that I remembered the rule change. ::)
Just as well I didn't hit him then! ;D
I'm pretty sure that's always been the rule.
I'm pretty sure it hasn't. :P
(https://i.postimg.cc/MH0Cqyqb/highway-code.png)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10319707/Highway-Code-rule-change-cyclists-priority-drivers.html
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If you observe a pedestrian walking towards the kerb speed up to ensure you beat them to it simple..👍
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I've always given way to the pedestrian, especially if it's a young mum with a pram.
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Fuk there’s going to be lot of rearenders over this I’d bet anyone. And… When do you give way to pedestrians? I was taught the answer was…. AT ALL TIMES! Although it’s good when I’m walking about, I don’t like it when I’m driving😂😂😂
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I've always given way to the pedestrian, especially if it's a young mum with a pram.
The times I've seen women push a pram out into the road they want to cross from behind a car or van. :o Stupid bints! >:( :P
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I've always given way to the pedestrian, especially if it's a young mum with a pram.
The times I've seen women push a pram out into the road they want to cross from behind a car or van. :o Stupid bints! >:( :P
I'm talking about when turning into a junction.
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https://www.reddrivingschool.com/2020/08/5-times-you-didnt-know-that-pedestrians-have-right-of-way/
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(https://i.postimg.cc/MH0Cqyqb/highway-code.png)
In the second picture the poor driver is likely to crash into that GIVE WAY sign ,
probably put there by that p155ed up pedestrian :(
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All this talk about change but nothing will, hopefully the majority of drivers will still use commonsense, and the majority of pedestrians will stroll about with their minds on their mobiles & listening to them on earpieces , blissfully unaware what is going on around them.
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Yeah he looks suspicious too, he has one hand in his pocket👀, unless he’s got a hole in it of course😂
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Yeah he looks suspicious too, he has one hand in his pocket👀, unless he’s got a hole in it of course😂
Indeed
he should have both hands free to pick himself up when the car knocks him flying :P
he's looking strait ahead ,the stupid ****
he should be watching the car :P
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Ha ha ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Looks like he’s wearing slippers too although he’s hiding them behind the X in the first picture. Slovenly bastard🐀
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Slippers? They are Nike Air YEezy sneakers. He also has Apple Earpods 3
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Looks like he’s wearing slippers too although he’s hiding them behind the X in the first picture. Slovenly bastard🐀
I thought that was a big pozi drive screw ,securing him to the pavement :-\
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Slippers? They are Nike Air YEezy sneakers. He also has Apple Earpods 3
so he's got plenty of money to pay for a new bumper and bonnet he's about to dent then :-\
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Shouldn’t be expensive it looks a bit like an Omega
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Shouldn’t be expensive it looks a bit like an Omega
you can't get the parts new now
It cost Lizzies insurance about 7 grand to fix her bumper :P
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Shouldn’t be expensive it looks a bit like an Omega
Looks like it's got my old Desmond CDX wheels on it. ;)
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Yes that’s another thing you can’t turn your back on this government without them knicking something.. even if it’s only for their bloody brochure🤣
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Shouldn’t be expensive it looks a bit like an Omega
you can't get the parts new now
It cost Lizzies insurance about 7 grand to fix her bumper :P
It wasn’t just the bumper I’m afraid, but a list of front end parts damage. :-X
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Hope you fix your front end Liz👍👀😂😵💫
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Shouldn’t be expensive it looks a bit like an Omega
you can't get the parts new now
It cost Lizzies insurance about 7 grand to fix her bumper :P
It wasn’t just the bumper I’m afraid, but a list of front end parts damage. :-X
so you didn't just have your front "touched up" then :D
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What are you lot like ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Bumper, bonnet, both wings, radiator, condenser, slam panel and both headlights is about £1,200 including a VX 10 year guarantee on the installation (welding/painting) of the slam panel and repainting the front end.
£7,000 has long* been very nice replacement Omega money...
*since the newest hit 5 years old in 2008
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(https://i.postimg.cc/X7HMLP7Y/Green-XCode.jpg)
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Regarding the cyclist priority, there's a clip on interweb that shows a cyclist riding in the primary position (middle of the road), then a vehicle overtakes on the opposite lane giving the cyclist plenty of room. A little bit further up the road the vehicle signals its intention to turn left but just as the vehicle is about to turn left a pedestrian has started to cross, so the driver waits while they cross the junction. The cyclist has now caught up but has switched to kerbside position so that he now has priority. The driver does see the cyclist so there is no issue, but the moral being that the cyclist will change position to suit themselves.
Put bluntly, some will take the piss. :)
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Regarding the cyclist priority, there's a clip on interweb that shows a cyclist riding in the primary position (middle of the road), then a vehicle overtakes on the opposite lane giving the cyclist plenty of room. A little bit further up the road the vehicle signals its intention to turn left but just as the vehicle is about to turn left a pedestrian has started to cross, so the driver waits while they cross the junction. The cyclist has now caught up but has switched to kerbside position so that he now has priority. The driver does see the cyclist so there is no issue, but the moral being that the cyclist will change position to suit themselves.
Put bluntly, some will take the piss. :)
Nothing new there, then.
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What about Deliveroo riders with no lights on cutting all over the place, are they still fair game?
How about at night?
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What about Deliveroo riders with no lights on cutting all over the place, are they still fair game?
How about at night?
Could this be a natural compassionate and painless way to implement TB's cull of the feeble minded?..... ::) ::) ::) :)
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What about Deliveroo riders with no lights on cutting all over the place, are they still fair game?
How about at night?
Could this be a natural compassionate and painless way to implement TB's cull of the feeble minded?..... ::) ::) ::) :)
Trouble is you're only taking out the supply side of the problem, and not addressing the real problem which is the demand side ???
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What about Deliveroo riders with no lights on cutting all over the place, are they still fair game?
How about at night?
Could this be a natural compassionate and painless way to implement TB's cull of the feeble minded?..... ::) ::) ::) :)
Trouble is you're only taking out the supply side of the problem, and not addressing the real problem which is the demand side ???
Cut off the supply and the demand will move on.
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Biked across town this afternoon doing my best to avoid numerous zombie pedestrians on the way. ::) When is cull starting TB?
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Round here most of the cyclists ride on the pavements, too dangerous in the road with no lights, fu**ing tw**s.
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Saw several news reports last weekend that on the first day of the new regs. a group of cyclists rode along a road (Sussex I think ?) taking up the whole road and didnt let any cars pass them for 8 miles.
Looking back and laughing at the motorists stuck behind them.
Natural justice tells me you should be allowed to run over cretins like that, but the law doesnt see it that way apparently.
Could have been someone in one of the cars who needed to get to hospital urgently, or on their way to say goodbye to a loved one who was at deaths door.
Dont suppose plod are trying hard to track them down and prosecute them. >:(
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Saw several news reports last weekend that on the first day of the new regs. a group of cyclists rode along a road (Sussex I think ?) taking up the whole road and didnt let any cars pass them for 8 miles.
Looking back and laughing at the motorists stuck behind them.
Natural justice tells me you should be allowed to run over cretins like that, but the law doesnt see it that way apparently.
Could have been someone in one of the cars who needed to get to hospital urgently, or on their way to say goodbye to a loved one who was at deaths door.
Dont suppose plod are trying hard to track them down and prosecute them. >:(
Dashcam footage on YouTube is the way to go, cause outrage and some 'soldier' will take it upon himself to go out after dark.
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Get in front of them all and do 5mph, speed up when they try to go past
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Get in front of them all and do 5mph, speed up when they try to go past
And the cover them in soot when you get bored and floor it ;)
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Get in front of them all and do 5mph, speed up when they try to go past
And the cover them in soot when you get bored and floor it ;)
Nah, we'll all have to cover them in electrons soon ;D
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Get in front of them all and do 5mph, speed up when they try to go past
And the cover them in soot when you get bored and floor it ;)
Nah, we'll all have to cover them in electrons soon ;D
Are you buying a milk float then? :D
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Get in front of them all and do 5mph, speed up when they try to go past
And the cover them in soot when you get bored and floor it ;)
Nah, we'll all have to cover them in electrons soon ;D
Are you buying a milk float then? :D
Never, but young'uns will have no choice.
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They'll be too busy stepping into traffic to notice or care :'(
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interesting floor in the new rules clicky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm2LLBec9LM)
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interesting floor in the new rules clicky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm2LLBec9LM)
A very interesting point that :y. It is a flaw (see others do what I often do! ;D ;D ;))
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I just tried "pedestrian mode" down to Sainsburys (1.5 mile round trip)
I think I'd be dead about 6 times if I adopted the new rules .
that's not including waiting for the pelican crossing both ways
perhaps the new rules are to increase Covid death figures :P
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breakless-cyclist-mocks-new-highway-26150037?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=mirror_main&fbclid=IwAR1MOLVzeXiDhxBcVH3ZxplOppdcpQgfeV6Q9hiJuy1LNlirVVoabxhNdmg
Theres allways going to be one :-X
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Theres allways going to be one :-X
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But I assure you ,there are far more than ONE :D
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Theres allways going to be one :-X
the link won't work due to the swear filter
But I assure you ,there are far more than ONE :D
few options here. :y :y
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It would appear nobody actually explained the pedestrain right of way bit to pedestrians, they now seem to think they can walk into the road anywhere and the traffic will stop :o
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Is anyone really surprised that there is total confusion? It was bad enough before. Darwinism is accelerating faster.
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It would appear nobody actually explained the pedestrain right of way bit to pedestrians, they now seem to think they can walk into the road anywhere and the traffic will stop :o
That's not exactly news, they've been doing that as long as I can recall around here... The brighter ones actually look as they do it :D
Don't forget, pedestrians aren't encouraged to read the Highway Code, let alone understand it. At this rate we'll need a test just to get born...
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It would appear nobody actually explained the pedestrain right of way bit to pedestrians, they now seem to think they can walk into the road anywhere and the traffic will stop :o
It's amazing how many pedestrians you see totaly oblivious to traffic at juctions, they have thier mobile phone attched to thier ear and just switch off from thier surroundings. :-\
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It would appear nobody actually explained the pedestrain right of way bit to pedestrians, they now seem to think they can walk into the road anywhere and the traffic will stop :o
It's amazing how many pedestrians you see totally oblivious to traffic at junctions, they have their mobile phone attached to their ear and just switch off from their surroundings. :-\
Not that drivers ever hold phones while driving. And their situational awareness is always excellent.
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Not that drivers ever hold phones while driving. And their situational awareness is always excellent.
I tried once, took a call whilst drivng when I 1st had a mobile & instantly realised how dangerous it was. never tried since, either get my passenger to take the call or pull up to use the phone. (and on one occasion got a warning for being parked on the road with my headlights on dipped from a trffic cop (2am)) :-\
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Not that drivers ever hold phones while driving. And their situational awareness is always excellent.
I tried once, took a call whilst drivng when I 1st had a mobile & instantly realised how dangerous it was. never tried since, either get my passenger to take the call or pull up to use the phone. (and on one occasion got a warning for being parked on the road with my headlights on dipped from a trffic cop (2am)) :-\
That hits the nail on the head... Some people are more/less risk aware and some are more/less adapted to doing more than one thing at a time. Most people get better at things with practice, but whatever you do, you should do so with an understanding of the implications and potential consequences.
Is talking on the phone really more or less of a distraction than talking to a passenger?
Using a hand held phone is obviously a much greater hazard, but most newer cars allow you to dial by voice and a single button push on the steering wheel... As in fact will most phones. Same goes for navigation devices.
The only progress of sorts is that screens are now touch screen and nearer the driver's normal field of vision which makes them much more tempting.
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Not that drivers ever hold phones while driving. And their situational awareness is always excellent.
I tried once, took a call whilst drivng when I 1st had a mobile & instantly realised how dangerous it was. never tried since, either get my passenger to take the call or pull up to use the phone. (and on one occasion got a warning for being parked on the road with my headlights on dipped from a trffic cop (2am)) :-\
That hits the nail on the head... Some people are more/less risk aware and some are more/less adapted to doing more than one thing at a time. Most people get better at things with practice, but whatever you do, you should do so with an understanding of the implications and potential consequences.
Is talking on the phone really more or less of a distraction than talking to a passenger?
Using a hand held phone is obviously a much greater hazard, but most newer cars allow you to dial by voice and a single button push on the steering wheel... As in fact will most phones. Same goes for navigation devices.
The only progress of sorts is that screens are now touch screen and nearer the driver's normal field of vision which makes them much more tempting.
In 1990 I was blessed with a fitted company car phone. Simple calls were fine, but often I would be having to discuss complex business issues with the directors, and other senior managers. Generally it was not safe as I was distracted from the main task in hand; driving my car. In the end I used to park up the car to take, and make, the more serious calls in the interests of safety.
Talking on a mobile phone, in a car or as a pedestrian, is always a distraction as the human brain, as much as you try not to, becomes totally absorbed in the phone discussion at the cost of really what is happening around the car or pedestrian.
The times I have had near misses with other vehicle drivers and pedestrians using phones, and I cannot see how the new Highway Code rules will change the situation with the latter now the stupid ones think they have complete rights over everything else! ;)
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I thought women were predisposed to multitasking :D
So you presumably wouldn't discuss such matters with passengers in the car for the same reason ???
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I thought women were predisposed to multitasking :D
So you presumably wouldn't discuss such matters with passengers in the car for the same reason ???
No I wouldn't have done as I was usually out on business alone, covering hundreds of miles in a day. It was only when we met up in the Division or at HQ that we had face to face discussions.
When I did have a colleague with me with one of us driving, the conversation was 'modeled' quite naturally on what was happening on the road ahead. Conversations were discontinued, continued, discontinued, as the road conditions dictated. That is THE difference with hands free telephone conversations in a car as opposed to the 'other person' being in the car. On the phone the other person does not break, or alter, their conversation to allow for what you the driver is having to deal with for each second / minute. That is why even using a hands free phone is not good for any detailed or complex conversation.
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That is THE difference with hands free telephone conversations in a car as opposed to the 'other person' being in the car. On the phone the other person does not break, or alter, their conversation to allow for what you the driver is having to deal with for each second / minute. ......
that's the same as having my Mum in the car ..... she just talks & talks & talks ..... ::)
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That is THE difference with hands free telephone conversations in a car as opposed to the 'other person' being in the car. On the phone the other person does not break, or alter, their conversation to allow for what you the driver is having to deal with for each second / minute. ......
that's the same as having my Mum in the car ..... she just talks & talks & talks ..... ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D Well, there is that, the exception to the general rule. :D :D ;)
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That is THE difference with hands free telephone conversations in a car as opposed to the 'other person' being in the car. On the phone the other person does not break, or alter, their conversation to allow for what you the driver is having to deal with for each second / minute. ......
that's the same as having my Mum in the car ..... she just talks & talks & talks ..... ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D Well, there is that, the exception to the general rule. :D :D ;)
She's no exception, they all do that. ;)
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Here's a question... If vehicles overtaking bicyclist have to leave 5 feet clearance, shouldn't a bicyclist overtaking a vehicle have to leave the same distance (for the same reasons)? :-\
Pondered this whilst in a traffic queue as a bicyclist that I had correctly passed eventually caught up and was buzzing down the centreline swerving around door morrors/oncoming traffic... And yes I did consider opening the door just to make a point :-X
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Here's a question... If vehicles overtaking bicyclist have to leave 5 feet clearance, shouldn't a bicyclist overtaking a vehicle have to leave the same distance (for the same reasons)? :-\
Pondered this whilst in a traffic queue as a bicyclist that I had correctly passed eventually caught up and was buzzing down the centreline swerving around door morrors/oncoming traffic... And yes I did consider opening the door just to make a point :-X
No. Motorists must obey the rules, cyclists can do whatever they like. Got it? Good.
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No. Motorists must obey the rules, cyclists can do whatever they like. Got it? Good.
Nothing new there then. :-X
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It would appear nobody actually explained the pedestrain right of way bit to pedestrians, they now seem to think they can walk into the road anywhere and the traffic will stop :o
Yes I nearly took out a stupid bint jogging in the road on a blind left hand bend a few nights ago! :o
To be fair it's a place which is a bit of a mare for pedestrians as the road narrows on the bend and there's no pavement, so its a bit of a squeeze when there's two cars passing and people walking as well. Usually though people generally walk round the outside of the bend where they are visible to traffic coming both ways, so it was a bit of a shock as I went round the bend to be confronted by this silly bint running at me in the road, flapping her arms at me presumably to tell me to get out of her way. :o
Luckily for her there was a car coming the other way as well, so I'd slowed down to go through, but I still had to stand on the brakes! >:(
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And yes I did consider opening the door just to make a point :-X
but you'd have used your left hand to open the door so would have been looking over your shoulder and would have seen her ::)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-60089225 :y
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And yes I did consider opening the door just to make a point :-X
but you'd have used your left hand to open the door so would have been looking over your shoulder and would have seen her ::)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-60089225 :y
Him, and yes, but the glare from the sun would obviously have obscured him from my view as I looked :D
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And yes I did consider opening the door just to make a point :-X
but you'd have used your left hand to open the door so would have been looking over your shoulder and would have seen her ::)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-60089225 :y
Him, and yes, but the glare from the sun would obviously have obscured him from my view as I looked :D
;D ;D