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Title: The gap is growing.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 April 2022, 13:16:13
A massive 24p a litre difference yesterday between fuel for cars and fuel for a lorry. :)



 
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 April 2022, 13:18:18
That is an extra £1.09 a gallon. :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 April 2022, 13:21:07
Yes I've been pondering switching to a petrol car not only because of the price difference, but also there's been suggestions of diesel shortages as we don't refine enough in this country so import about half of what we need.  Guess where we import diesel from?  ???  ::)

The problem is that the only petrol cars I like the look of do about 20 gallons to the mile!  ;D
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 April 2022, 13:25:42
Yes I've been pondering switching to a petrol car not only because of the price difference, but also there's been suggestions of diesel shortages as we don't refine enough in this country so import about half of what we need.  Guess where we import diesel from?  ???  ::)

The problem is that the only petrol cars I like the look of do about 20 gallons to the mile!  ;D

I know what you mean. The 'over optimistic' trip computer fitted to my classic Vauxhall is currently showing 24 MPG (about 21-22 MPG in reality)

The figures for the Tata were much the same despite having an extra 320 BHP. :-X
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 April 2022, 13:37:38
I wouldn't mind a Volvo V70 T6, but I was crunching some numbers the other day and I reckon it would cost 10p a mile more to run than my current V70 D5, plus the addition VED.  :-\
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 April 2022, 13:41:37
I wouldn't mind a Volvo V70 T6, but I was crunching some numbers the other day and I reckon it would cost 10p a mile more to run than my current V70 D5, plus the addition VED.  :-\

A quick google shows 300 BHP so it should be entertaining in a straight line.

Buy one.......we are all a long time dead. :y
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Rangie on 04 April 2022, 13:44:25
Our two vehicles do exactly the same 23 around town & 30 on a run fortunately only around 8,000 miles is our average now we've retired 3,000 in the Subaru (petrol) & around 5,000 in the RRS which is diesel.
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 April 2022, 13:47:16
I wouldn't mind a Volvo V70 T6, but I was crunching some numbers the other day and I reckon it would cost 10p a mile more to run than my current V70 D5, plus the addition VED.  :-\

A quick google shows 300 BHP so it should be entertaining in a straight line.

Buy one.......we are all a long time dead. :y

This is true!  :)

I need a big load lugger and was considering a Range Rover 3.6 TDV8 which has a similar fuel consumption to the V70 T6 but with diesel, so comparatively the V70 T6 is cheap to run!  :y

It's all relative really.   :)
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 04 April 2022, 13:48:42
Omega - 24mpg
Boxster - 28mpg
Pierre - 60mpg.

Diesel still makes sense for me while Im still working, which I plan to do for another seven years or so if possible.
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: TheBoy on 04 April 2022, 13:54:32
Price of diesel here is irrelevant. You just can't get any.

I hear on arsebook that the next town, 15 miles away, has limited quantities at some stations...   ...I have just about enough left to get there and back, so daren't risk it ;D
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Rangie on 04 April 2022, 13:59:02
Price of diesel here is irrelevant. You just can't get any.

I hear on arsebook that the next town, 15 miles away, has limited quantities at some stations...   ...I have just about enough left to get there and back, so daren't risk it ;D
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No problems here at present but I don't let either vehicle go below half before refuelling.
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 April 2022, 14:30:14
Price of diesel here is irrelevant. You just can't get any.

I hear on arsebook that the next town, 15 miles away, has limited quantities at some stations...   ...I have just about enough left to get there and back, so daren't risk it ;D

.....as bad as that. :-\
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Viral_Jim on 04 April 2022, 14:35:54
I had a van over the weekend and had to visit 4 petrol stations (and pay £1.90 /l) to get any to fill it back up.  :-\

 
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 April 2022, 14:37:54
Omega - 24mpg
Boxster - 28mpg
Pierre - 60mpg.

Diesel still makes sense for me while Im still working, which I plan to do for another seven years or so if possible.

I once had a test drive of an early 2.5 litre Boxster. It sounded great and was a proper drivers car. I think later cars were bored out to 2.7/3.0/3.2.

Very basic though....no AC if memory serves.

Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: STEMO on 04 April 2022, 14:42:15
Price of diesel here is irrelevant. You just can't get any.

I hear on arsebook that the next town, 15 miles away, has limited quantities at some stations...   ...I have just about enough left to get there and back, so daren't risk it ;D

.....as bad as that. :-\
Only in that area because of extinction stop fuel eat grass rebellion glueing themselves to oil depots.
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: STEMO on 04 April 2022, 14:42:55
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1590453/Fuel-shortage-petrol-England-Just-Stop-Oil-protest-block-supply-latest
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: henryd on 04 April 2022, 16:09:12
I wouldn't mind a Volvo V70 T6, but I was crunching some numbers the other day and I reckon it would cost 10p a mile more to run than my current V70 D5, plus the addition VED.  :-\

I've just bought a mk3 V70 2.0 diesel, been re-mapped and goes well but brilliant on fuel here locally :y
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 April 2022, 16:09:30
Currently making full use of overnights for testing.

L462 Petrol S6 for the weekend, L494 Petrol V8 tonight, need to find another needing miles for tomorrow
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 April 2022, 16:19:58
Currently making full use of overnights for testing.

Discovery 5 Petrol S6 for the weekend, MK2 Range Rover Sport Petrol V8 tonight, need to find another needing miles for tomorrow

Translated.  :y  ;D


Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 04 April 2022, 16:32:03
Omega - 24mpg
Boxster - 28mpg
Pierre - 60mpg.

Diesel still makes sense for me while Im still working, which I plan to do for another seven years or so if possible.

I once had a test drive of an early 2.5 litre Boxster. It sounded great and was a proper drivers car. I think later cars were bored out to 2.7/3.0/3.2.

Very basic though....no AC if memory serves.

Mines a 2.7 (220bhp). It has A/C, CD changer, and memory drivers seat for example,but there was a long options list, so depended what boxes were ticked.
They developed over the years, and the 3.2 grew to 3.4.
Newer ones are very expensive and dont even look much like a Boxster. I believe they also have 4 cylinder (turbo presumably ?) engines.
Mine has a lovely sound, especially at higher revs, has enough grunt to have fun, and handles superbly.
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 April 2022, 12:18:02
The Alabama Mumsybus uses as much diesel as the S280 did petrol. Had I seen this coming I would have held out for the R500 ::)

I noticed when having a rummage around Crawley for diesel the other morning, that Tescos claimed to only have Momentum unleaded. What's to stop them filling the Momentum tank with E10 and charging extra for it over and above the already inflated base price?

The question is what happens when Russia implodes? Will the oligarchs go back to running their businesses or will China quietly step in and syphon the fuel away?

Spending £20k+ on a vehicle with less than half the range and a charge time measured in shifts isn't the solution. I would probably revert to the train for commuting, but that isn't reliable and have an impending job change with a standby element, so public transport simply won't work. Said job change will also probably be Heathrow based, so public transport becomes the day before, so again not viable and as the cheapest ev is a Smart for two, that will not work.

For an EV to be viable it needs to have at least a 300 mile real world range in order to use it in the same manner as a combustion car.
Title: Re: The gap is growing.
Post by: TheBoy on 06 April 2022, 13:47:45
Unless you live and work in London/Birmingham/Mancs etc, public transport is not viable.  It wasn't before Beeching had the right idea, so most definitely isn't now.

Most bus services outside of Londonium etc seem to be reducing, and aren't integrated into the rest of the public transport system.


For example, for me to get to Central London purely by public transport, its:
20 minute walk into town
Catch the bus, Tuesday at 11am
Run from Bicester bus station in order to catch the 12:56 choo choo, or walk, and wait nearly an hour for the 13:54
Hour* in to Marylebone
30mins on Bakerloo and Central to St Pauls etc.

So to get to London on a Tuesday, its 5hrs, assuming I want to arrive at 3:30pm.

The return journey is more fraught, as I have to wait for the following Tuesday for the bus.


Or I can take the car, about 2.5hrs, and cheaper even considering the congestion and ULEZ charges that the Mayor needs to pull down statues.


*Used to be around 40m, but every time there is a hint that HS2 might get scaled back further, HS2 Ltd's owners, Network Rail, who also run the timetables, extend it back out to an hour, in order to make the Birmingham to London routes 2 hours, rather than the 1hr15 it used to be.