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Title: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 September 2008, 01:22:00
Background...

For the last month or so we have had a cat trying to get into our house but ours keeps fighting it off! Getting a bit annoying now because ours is starting to get a few war wounds and before long it's going to start costing me money! >:( >:(

Anyway, tonight I finally managed to catch it to see if it had any contact details on its collar! Unfortunately it doesn't even have a collar and tonight it sounds really distressed. We actually think it may have been abandoned and just want to try and help it! Tried for over an hour to get hold of various animal welfare charities, even tried the police contact centre and some local 24hr vets.

Upshot is, can't get an answer from any of the charities. Police, although as helpful as ever, were unable to anything other than supply the numbers we had already tried. And as for the vets... Managed to get through to one who said they wouldn't even take it in out of working hours unless it was injured. If we took it in during office hours they would quite happily scan it to check for a chip, providing WE paid for the appointment!  :o :o :o

I'm absolutely disgusted... You try and help by catching a stray cat and get nothing in the way of help from anyone! :o :o :o

Although I would NEVER do it, it makes me wonder why I don't just kill it and put it out of its obvious misery! If it were at all viable I would have brought it into the house to try and sort something in the morning but this isn't an option with our, very possessive and territorial Moggy!

I know what the answer will be next time I have a begging letter/call from one of the animal charity collectors...

Sorry... Rant over... I'm off to bed!!

Just out of interest, what would you guys and girls do in this situation? :question :question
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Beconboy on 12 September 2008, 01:26:22
sell it to the nearest chinese takeaway ;D
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 September 2008, 01:37:34
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sell it to the nearest chinese takeaway ;D

Did you not read the title... Serious topic :D :D :D

Just breaks my heart to hear the little fella crying and not be able to help!

In the end we took it to the woods over the road (all of about 20 yards) and let it go with some food on the ground!

I know one thing... There's nothing wrong with its claws!!! ::)
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Beconboy on 12 September 2008, 01:40:30
on a serious note i don,t know why some people have pets Paul >:(
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: willyboy on 12 September 2008, 01:57:07
Could you take it to RSPCA in morning see what they say, as we have one near thats what I would do ...
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Jimbob on 12 September 2008, 07:15:09
EVERYONE will do the same, and refuse help.

We had it a few years back.

Our solution - It went in a box with please look after me on it, and was on the vets doorstep a few minutes before opening.

No idea what happened, buy my concience is clear, and our cat aint got big vets bills
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: mantahatch on 12 September 2008, 08:03:12
I really do feel for you, it can be heartbreaking listening to a cat cry. (not howl) we had a similar situation many years ago. I won't bore you with details but we did end up adopting the cat, or should I say the cat adopted us !
There where a few scraps with our own cat but they did eventually settle down.

All the best

Mike
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: sir moanalot on 12 September 2008, 08:06:29
same as jimbob, or drive it for 10 miles and let it out somewhere else, thay may have a caring rspca/ vet near there for someone else to deal, after you having no joy.
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Jo_Kent on 12 September 2008, 08:40:00
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sell it to the nearest chinese takeaway ;D

Noooooo because your nearest could be my nearest too as I'm in Dagenham as well !  :(

Seriously tho, bad show on the part of the animal charities.


Lin.
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 September 2008, 09:04:59
I would quite happily have delivered it somewhere last night but unfortunately had to let it go because there was absolutely no way we could keep it anywhere overnight!

I think I'll be in touch with the local rag today, as well as telling the various charities what I think of them >:( >:(
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: TheBoy on 12 September 2008, 09:15:14
I think the animal charities are a bit overrun, and will get worse as the Christmas period approaches.

Other issue is most charities are so poorly run and inefficient, they never have any money
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 September 2008, 09:18:41
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I think the animal charities are a bit overrun, and will get worse as the Christmas period approaches.

Other issue is most charities are so poorly run and inefficient, they never have any money

I do have complete sympathy for them... I know that most are volunteers but still? When my mum used to take in cats for the Cats Protection she had to be available to at least answer the door on a call out rosta! Last night I couldn't even get an answer to a phone call!
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 12 September 2008, 09:33:59
Suffered in similiar situations many times..

so heres some info:

if both cats are male and adult , you are in trouble ..

if both cats are female and adult: you can solve the problem within few weeks..

if they are different (male , female)  : you will have babies after ;D


So for solving the problem (if you will keep the other)

you must love and give importance to the other in the eyes of your

old cat..Under any fight circumstance punish the cat who start the

fight..Feed them together but keep their plates seperate (min 1 meter apart)

within few days fights will diminish..

But if they are adult males during their seasons to find females they will pee everywhere(territory sign) and again fight for their territory..

So if somebody stays in home during day time its ok..Can keep an eye on them..Otherwise you need to keep them in different rooms or cages during these times..

if you have garden both in front of home and backside..Prepare them beds in different gardens and take them home only to feed ..fight problem will be solved..
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Guppy on 12 September 2008, 09:34:05
Don't know whether this could help if the cat does return, she is in my area and an absolutely brilliant lady, she may have contacts in your area.  :y

www.celiahammond.org/
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 September 2008, 09:38:09
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Suffered in similiar situations many times..

so heres some info:

if both cats are male and adult , you are in trouble ..

if both cats are female and adult: you can solve the problem within few weeks..

if they are different (male , female)  : you will have babies after ;D


So for solving the problem (if you will keep the other)

you must love and give importance to the other in the eyes of your

old cat..Under any fight circumstance punish the cat who start the

fight..Feed them together but keep their plates seperate (min 1 meter apart)

within few days fights will diminish..

But if they are adult males during their seasons to find females they will pee everywhere(territory sign) and again fight for their territory..

So if somebody stays in home during day time its ok..Can keep an eye on them..Otherwise you need to keep them in different rooms or cages during these times..

I know what you mean Cem... I got one of my previous cats in this way although both adult Males they were OK...

This time I can't let it happen. They've been fighting constantly and TBH I don't want another cat!
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 12 September 2008, 09:45:22
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Suffered in similiar situations many times..

so heres some info:

if both cats are male and adult , you are in trouble ..

if both cats are female and adult: you can solve the problem within few weeks..

if they are different (male , female)  : you will have babies after ;D


So for solving the problem (if you will keep the other)

you must love and give importance to the other in the eyes of your

old cat..Under any fight circumstance punish the cat who start the

fight..Feed them together but keep their plates seperate (min 1 meter apart)

within few days fights will diminish..

But if they are adult males during their seasons to find females they will pee everywhere(territory sign) and again fight for their territory..

So if somebody stays in home during day time its ok..Can keep an eye on them..Otherwise you need to keep them in different rooms or cages during these times..

I know what you mean Cem... I got one of my previous cats in this way although both adult Males they were OK...

This time I can't let it happen. They've been fighting constantly and TBH I don't want another cat!

if you decide to give the cat somewhere else its ok..

but if you want to stop the fights you need to punish(spray them water, take in the hand and give a knock in the head  :o ;D) them immediately after fight..if you scare them enough this will solve very quickly..I behave the cats very softly so none of our cats listen me >:(

But when wife says something they become like a soldier ;D

ps : some home cats are really really capricous ..and stubborn..

we have one female named "princess" ..trust me we have suffered with this very long..Dont eat normal things..Only eat expensive dry food and meat..(from its rather previous owner)..

But my wife trained -them- very well ..Now -they- even eat spagetti.. ;D
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: ians on 12 September 2008, 11:24:54
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But my wife trained very well ..Now even eat spagetti.. ;D


Great job you have done on your wife there cem :y ;D

I know what you mean though.  Our old cat loved chilli :)

LD - have you tried Cats Protection during the day?
My Dads partner runs her local CP and I have been around when she gets calls from people late at night frankly expecting miracles.  At the end of the day they are volunteers and human beings like the rest of us.
I am sure you were entirely reasonable, but it may be worth trying during the day time?
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 12 September 2008, 11:27:50
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But my wife trained very well ..Now even eat spagetti.. ;D


Great job you have done on your wife there cem :y ;D

I know what you mean though.  Our old cat loved chilli :)

LD - have you tried Cats Protection during the day?
My Dads partner runs her local CP and I have been around when she gets calls from people late at night frankly expecting miracles.  At the end of the day they are volunteers and human beings like the rest of us.
I am sure you were entirely reasonable, but it may be worth trying during the day time?

I'll try ;D
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: jimmas on 12 September 2008, 11:29:32
Did you say cat, I need a new one for my omega will it fit  :D :D

sorry not very helpfull  
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: ians on 12 September 2008, 11:35:50
from the picture I think Mark installed one on Jimbobs Omega at Newent.. ;)
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 September 2008, 11:51:40
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But my wife trained very well ..Now even eat spagetti.. ;D


Great job you have done on your wife there cem :y ;D

I know what you mean though.  Our old cat loved chilli :)

LD - have you tried Cats Protection during the day?
My Dads partner runs her local CP and I have been around when she gets calls from people late at night frankly expecting miracles.  At the end of the day they are volunteers and human beings like the rest of us.
I am sure you were entirely reasonable, but it may be worth trying during the day time?

Hi Ians... Couldn't even get hold of anyone last night but I do understand that they are all volunteers and I wasn't really after miracles, just somewhere to take it!

Anyway... Spoke to them this morning and they said they couldn't take it in anyway as they are already full.

I've told them, and decided myself, that if I catch it again I'll take it for a drive to the nearest vet/rescue centre and dump it! At least then it might get some care! It seems a shame but it is the only way I can see to get it off the street.

By the way... Looking at the highlighted section, are we all on best behaviour at the moment??? I was actually polite today when I managed to get hold of someone but last night I gave the ring tone what for... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: ians on 12 September 2008, 12:09:21
Oh indeed.  I will also be in trouble if banks etc record the language I use to their automated menu systems when I am just trying to get through to a human ;D
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Danny on 12 September 2008, 14:45:10
i'd be taking to my local cats and dogs home, cos we have a local cats and dogs home
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: jereboam on 12 September 2008, 17:49:12
If there's no cat sanctuary in Woodbridge, I know there's one in Walton village near Felixstowe - that's where our moggy came from.
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 September 2008, 22:45:06
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If there's no cat sanctuary in Woodbridge, I know there's one in Walton village near Felixstowe - that's where our moggy came from.

That'll be Blue Cross... Everyone has said that they can't help at the moment.

Good news is that after I caught it last night and held it captive for an hour and a half we haven't seen it since!! :y :y

I know it was fine but a few of the people I spoke to said that the fact I'd "imprisoned" it for a period of time it may well steer clear for a while. Here's hoping ::) ::)
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: feeutfo on 12 September 2008, 23:18:49
Try a magnetic cat flap. Magnet on cats colla activates the lock so only yours can get in. Sounds like the invader has not been castrated to me. Rspca will do all that and tagging if its taken in. If it comes back, maybe keep trying them, maybe make out you hit it with your car or something.
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Lazydocker on 12 September 2008, 23:55:50
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Try a magnetic cat flap. Magnet on cats colla activates the lock so only yours can get in. Sounds like the invader has not been castrated to me. Rspca will do all that and tagging if its taken in. If it comes back, maybe keep trying them, maybe make out you hit it with your car or something.

RSPCA in this area are no good... Couldn't even get hold of them! Anyway... I don't believe in their "re-home within 28 days or destroy" policy! :o :o >:( >:(
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: The Red Baron on 13 September 2008, 00:12:04
shame we are not a bit nearer to you paul, we would have had it from you.  :(
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Kate on 13 September 2008, 00:18:33
Hi I hope it works out with the cat.  I know what it's like, a similar thing happened to me.

Well at least I've got a story to make you laugh.  I was walking the dog one day when I saw this seagull jumping all over the road as if looking for scraps.  I didn't think anything of it at first but I noticed it seem to hop about forever.

It kept jumping wildly and I noticed a red mark on its wing.  Well I just walked home with the dog as you would and thought nothing more of it.

About two hours later I was driving down the same street after collecting my partner and we both saw the bird again still hopping about sadly.  It was only then did I realise it was injured.

You should have seen us after that running round the streets chasing a  crazy seagull like demented idiots while the locals laughed at us.  Chasing chasing peck peck peck it was mad.  I eventually grabbed the  gull covering it with a towel while it pecked my partner in the face.

The above cat story was worse I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Lazydocker on 13 September 2008, 00:18:34
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shame we are not a bit nearer to you paul, we would have had it from you.  :(

I wonder if I could Parcel Force it ::) ::) :D :D :D

In all seriousness Jon... I'm reluctant to give it to anyone just in case it does actually still live around here! I'm sure it was abandoned by someone who left 7 months ago... Looks like one of hers and "answered" to the name Pebbles, so to speak! But it was very vocal and TBH a bit full of claws... I have the scratches to prove the latter!!
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: Vamps on 13 September 2008, 00:21:56
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shame we are not a bit nearer to you paul, we would have had it from you.  :(

I wonder if I could Parcel Force it ::) ::) :D :D :D

In all seriousness Jon... I'm reluctant to give it to anyone just in case it does actually still live around here! I'm sure it was abandoned by someone who left 7 months ago... Looks like one of hers and "answered" to the name Pebbles, so to speak! But it was very vocal and TBH a bit full of claws... I have the scratches to prove the latter!!

We have a neighbours cat often tries to come in, sometimes does, our cat goes off it the dog, soft thing, just hides under the table. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Trying to help a cat... Serious topic
Post by: The Red Baron on 13 September 2008, 00:28:35
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shame we are not a bit nearer to you paul, we would have had it from you.  :(

I wonder if I could Parcel Force it ::) ::) :D :D :D

In all seriousness Jon... I'm reluctant to give it to anyone just in case it does actually still live around here! I'm sure it was abandoned by someone who left 7 months ago... Looks like one of hers and "answered" to the name Pebbles, so to speak! But it was very vocal and TBH a bit full of claws... I have the scratches to prove the latter!!
ha parcel force, ;D ;D. its a shame folks can dump an animal like that. poor thing. :(