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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: pete.h on 14 September 2008, 08:51:18

Title: MOT  Queries
Post by: pete.h on 14 September 2008, 08:51:18
Hi, I'm new to the forum but I've been an MOT tester for the last 10 years . There are probably loads of testers on here but if the regulars get fed up answering questions I am happy to try and help with anything MOT related. I might not answer straight away as I can't get to the internet all the time , but I'll reply asap , cheers , Pete
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: Banjax on 14 September 2008, 09:00:21
thats good to know  :y

welcome to OOF  ;)
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: Kevin Wood on 14 September 2008, 10:24:02
Thanks for the heads-up. As it's a quiet Sunday morning I have one for you:

I have noticed the following has crept into the online MOT tester's manual as reasons for failure on registration plates for cars registered after Sep 2001:

a. not displaying the name and postcode of the supplying outlet
b. not displaying a BSAU145d marking

Are cars seriously going to be failed for not displaying the name and postcode of the supplier? I put new plates on mine fairly recently, and am pretty sure there's no name and postcode on them despite them being obtained from a reputable motor factors and showing BSAU145d.

Surely if the plates visually comply with the requirements (don't get me wrong, chavvy fonts and mis-spaced plates I detest) that's enough?

OK, this is turning into more of a rant than a technical question, for which I appologise, but I'd welcome your view on it.

.. and welcome to the forum. :y

Kevin
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: Andy B on 14 September 2008, 10:36:38
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I have noticed the following has crept into the online MOT tester's manual as reasons for failure on registration plates for cars registered after Sep 2001:

a. not displaying the name and postcode of the supplying outlet
b. not displaying a BSAU145d marking .....

Just another of the Governments ill thought out plans to try to prevent cloning etc. You just buy your plates online now from Ireland.

And ...... I'd like to know why you can't buy plates with the 'font' that we had before Sep 01, even when it's going on a pre Sept 01 car.
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: MickAP on 14 September 2008, 11:35:01
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Thanks for the heads-up. As it's a quiet Sunday morning I have one for you:

I have noticed the following has crept into the online MOT tester's manual as reasons for failure on registration plates for cars registered after Sep 2001:

a. not displaying the name and postcode of the supplying outlet
b. not displaying a BSAU145d marking

Are cars seriously going to be failed for not displaying the name and postcode of the supplier? I put new plates on mine fairly recently, and am pretty sure there's no name and postcode on them despite them being obtained from a reputable motor factors and showing BSAU145d.

Surely if the plates visually comply with the requirements (don't get me wrong, chavvy fonts and mis-spaced plates I detest) that's enough?

OK, this is turning into more of a rant than a technical question, for which I appologise, but I'd welcome your view on it.

.. and welcome to the forum. :y

Kevin

Yep like to know myself as I have just purchased a pair, very legal fonts and spacing just has the Vauxhall badge on the left instead of say a euro or country badge no other names numbers etc.......would this pass MOT, it is on a pre 2001 car.

Mick
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: pete.h on 14 September 2008, 12:16:36
Crazy though it may seem , all these things should fail the MOT , but , unlike VOSA  , we all live in the real world and we know that if the car is failed on these things , one of a number of outcomes is likely : a) the plates get swapped for correct ones and then swapped back again after the test  , b)the customer gets narked and goes somewhere else for a test next time  , or c) the customer gets narked and punches tester on the nose , or d) any combination of the above .  Of course if the tester is caught passing a vehicle with these "defects" , ie in a spot check , he could get penalty points against his name and the MOT stations .  Mad world eh?
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: Kate on 14 September 2008, 13:35:49
Welcome to the forum! :y

What is BSAU145d by the way?
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: tmx on 14 September 2008, 13:45:50
BSAU145D  is the british standard relating to number plates

my car just passed its MOT with no postcode on the plates
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: Kate on 14 September 2008, 13:49:35
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BSAU145D  is the british standard relating to number plates

my car just passed its MOT with no postcode on the plates

Great! :y
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: pete.h on 14 September 2008, 17:12:18
I think in the end most testers don't want the hassle they are going to get from customers if they fail plates on minor points. Mind you the police don't seem to do much about wrong spacing and fonts , and they've got the authority to enforce it , whereas MOT stations haven't ,so it can seem a bit pointless failing  on these things as well.  (sorry to confuse anyone but all these things like postcodes , logos , backgrounds etc. only apply after 2001 , before that it was mainly fonts and spacing they were bothered about )
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: Entwood on 14 September 2008, 18:37:45
It is my belief that the new regulations were withdrawn by a DVLA Notice sometime in Nov 2007 ... as there were contradictions in 2 pieces of law.

I used to have a copy of the notice on this system but seem to have lost it .. :(

Found a link on line ...  :)

http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/repository/Special%20Notice%2010-07.pdf

HTH
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 14 September 2008, 18:40:27
In Doha, you can pass the Government equivalent with busted link rods, shot wishbone bushes and dodgy tyres  :o
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: RobG on 14 September 2008, 19:12:51
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In Doha, you can pass the Government equivalent with busted link rods, shot wishbone bushes and dodgy tyres  :o
didn`t think you needed tread on sand ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: pete.h on 14 September 2008, 19:28:30
Yeah , forgot about the withdrawal notice , we never used to fail cars anyway so it didn't make any difference to us when they withdrew it !   ( Wonder how many VOSA employees are members of the Omega forum !! )
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: Omegadoha, Desert Member on 14 September 2008, 19:41:08
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In Doha, you can pass the Government equivalent with busted link rods, shot wishbone bushes and dodgy tyres  :o
didn`t think you needed tread on sand ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yep you're right. Common sense would be more useful in this part of the world !  :o
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: Martin_1962 on 14 September 2008, 19:41:42
Hmm no BS logo, no postcode, but I have a web address on them, badges, well I have GB and Vauxhall
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 14 September 2008, 20:05:42
Where do we stand on exhaust modifications?

Lots of people mention taking the Cat out and replacing with a straight tube for the MOT.

But other often ask about taking out silencers/resonators from the system.

Also noise levels?

What can be passed regards exhaust modding on the Miggy?
Title: Re: MOT  Queries
Post by: pete.h on 14 September 2008, 20:47:43
You can take the cat out but the car has still got to pass the required emissions test for a cat equipped vehicle . So in practice I think you'd have to somehow lean off the mixture so it would get below the limit which would probably damage your engine if you're not careful.  As to noise levels I think the manual says something about it not being much noisier than any similar vehicle so to a certain extent it's down to the tester's assessment of it .