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Title: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 22 May 2024, 17:14:00
Everyone in the know is expecting Rishi to announce this very shortly.

OOPS

He's doing it right now
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 22 May 2024, 17:17:07
Kier Starmer is trying to drown him out with music, he's not ready just yet  ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 22 May 2024, 17:25:41
 ;D

Labour with a smallish majority is my guess.
God help us.  ::)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 22 May 2024, 17:42:11
I was going to start a threadon "who are we voting for ?" but I cant remember how to add a poll.
Im sure there used to be an option for that.  :-\
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Nick W on 22 May 2024, 17:50:52
;D

Labour with a smallish majority is my guess.
God help us.  ::)


Look around you. It's already beyond God, even if he could be bothered to exist
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 22 May 2024, 17:57:33
We used say when a Labour Govt got elected, Can the last person to leave Britain turn the lights out please?, but these days if the wind ain't blowing the lights won't be on anyway!  :)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 22 May 2024, 18:01:22
I was going to start a threadon "who are we voting for ?" but I cant remember how to add a poll.
Im sure there used to be an option for that.  :-\
There you go, Albs

But I doubt it will garner much interest
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 22 May 2024, 18:06:50
Voted.  :)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: ronnyd on 22 May 2024, 21:13:41
Always said that Sunak was a bit wet.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 22 May 2024, 21:58:30
Tory MP,s are now trying to oust Sunak, replace him with someone else and then cancel the election.
They have a week to do it before Parliament is dissolved.
Cant see it working tbh, but I would like to see the little sh1t turfed out on his arse.
He is a waste of space, skin and fresh air.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Nick W on 22 May 2024, 22:31:51
Tory MP,s are now trying to oust Sunak, replace him with someone else and then cancel the election.
They have a week to do it before Parliament is dissolved.
Cant see it working tbh, but I would like to see the little sh1t turfed out on his arse.
He is THEY are a waste of space, skin and fresh air.


Fixed that for you.


Electing a new leader is the real reason for the Conservative Party to exist, as it's the only thing they've accomplished or even been interested in for the last 10 years
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 23 May 2024, 07:37:28
That may well be true, but I can say with confidence that Labour are going to be worse. They always are.
The Tories need to remind themselves what Conservatism is and return to the values of it. Otherwise they are a spent force imo.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Rangie on 23 May 2024, 08:54:01
I have lost all interest in politics MPs seem to be either corrupt or paedophiles, we have just returned from Spain where we are buying a villa so will be spending time lounging in the sun & drinking cold beer certainly not worrying about what's happening on the UK.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 May 2024, 10:45:47
That may well be true, but I can say with confidence that Labour are going to be worse. They always are.
The Tories need to remind themselves what Conservatism is and return to the values of it. Otherwise they are a spent force imo.

We have living proof of that in Wales as well.  ::)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 May 2024, 12:12:35
Net immigration figures out today of 685,000. :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 23 May 2024, 12:21:37
Net immigration figures out today of 685,000. :o :o :o :o
A 10% drop from the year before:

Net migration to UK fell 10% last year, ONS says https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 May 2024, 12:24:26
Net immigration figures out today of 685,000. :o :o :o :o
A 10% drop from the year before:

Net migration to UK fell 10% last year, ONS says https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po

1.22 million arrivals.......roughly 530,000 departed. :(
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Nick W on 23 May 2024, 12:51:42
Net immigration figures out today of 685,000. :o :o :o :o
A 10% drop from the year before:

Net migration to UK fell 10% last year, ONS says https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po)


Adding context to a big scary number? It will never catch on. Nobody wants to know that 685,000 in a population of 68million is a terrifying 1%....
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Nick W on 23 May 2024, 12:56:55
An important question is why July, and not closer to the deadline in December?
Is there some disaster the PM is expecting in December that he wants to dump on someone else?
Perhaps he's been offered a multi-million £ bung salary in a job where he doesn't have to face a critical public and justify a lack of results. A bit like the Tony Blair Institute
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 May 2024, 13:50:16
An important question is why July, and not closer to the deadline in December?
Is there some disaster the PM is expecting in December that he wants to dump on someone else?
Perhaps he's been offered a multi-million £ bung salary in a job where he doesn't have to face a critical public and justify a lack of results. A bit like the Tony Blair Institute

I've been pondering this and wondering if there is some kind of 'black swan' event on it's way.  ???

For example, we are more or less unofficially at war with Russia.  Could that be an official state of affairs in a few months?  :-\
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 23 May 2024, 15:38:44
I'm guessing the 1922 committee had almost enough letters of intent to kick him out. Ask Graham Brady.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 May 2024, 16:30:12
Net immigration figures out today of 685,000. :o :o :o :o
A 10% drop from the year before:

Net migration to UK fell 10% last year, ONS says https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po)


Adding context to a big scary number? It will never catch on. Nobody wants to know that 685,000 in a population of 68million is a terrifying 1%....

So in thirty, forty, or fifty years where does that leave us?.........bearing in mind where we already are regarding cultural change especially in our 3 largest cities London, Birmingham, and Manchester.

Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 23 May 2024, 16:44:39
Net immigration figures out today of 685,000. :o :o :o :o
A 10% drop from the year before:

Net migration to UK fell 10% last year, ONS says https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po)


Adding context to a big scary number? It will never catch on. Nobody wants to know that 685,000 in a population of 68million is a terrifying 1%....

So in thirty, forty, or fifty years where does that leave us?.........bearing in mind where we already are regarding cultural change especially in our 3 largest cities London, Birmingham, and Manchester.
It leaves you dead  :)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 May 2024, 16:57:55
Net immigration figures out today of 685,000. :o :o :o :o
A 10% drop from the year before:

Net migration to UK fell 10% last year, ONS says https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po)


Adding context to a big scary number? It will never catch on. Nobody wants to know that 685,000 in a population of 68million is a terrifying 1%....

So in thirty, forty, or fifty years where does that leave us?.........bearing in mind where we already are regarding cultural change especially in our 3 largest cities London, Birmingham, and Manchester.
It leaves you dead  :)

Quite possibly because I'll be 84 in fifty years from now, whereas you are already sitting comfortably in Gods waiting room, waiting for a tap on the shoulder from the big man upstairs. >:D 8)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 23 May 2024, 17:34:13
Rwanda flights are due to start taking off later in July, He knows it aint going to happen and that leaves him a dead duck PM whose party would get completely slaughtered in the polls a few months later.
Its damage limitation.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: dave the builder on 23 May 2024, 17:34:50


1.22 million arrivals.......roughly 530,000 departed. :(
that is just the number of the 'on record' official count
how many snuck in while no one was counting  :-\  :P  ::)  :(
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Nick W on 23 May 2024, 17:36:33
Net immigration figures out today of 685,000. :o :o :o :o
A 10% drop from the year before:

Net migration to UK fell 10% last year, ONS says https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po)


Adding context to a big scary number? It will never catch on. Nobody wants to know that 685,000 in a population of 68million is a terrifying 1%....

So in thirty, forty, or fifty years where does that leave us?.........bearing in mind where we already are regarding cultural change especially in our 3 largest cities London, Birmingham, and Manchester.


Simple answer: we'll be dead ::)


A better answer requires a question: to get an idea of what's going on, what are the numbers over the last fifty years? The answer to that is they were pretty stable for thirty years from 1960, increasing slightly from 2000, doubling in 2022/3 and dropping again. That's an impressive spike, which must have a reason. Any ideas?
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 May 2024, 22:48:59
Net immigration figures out today of 685,000. :o :o :o :o
A 10% drop from the year before:

Net migration to UK fell 10% last year, ONS says https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po)


Adding context to a big scary number? It will never catch on. Nobody wants to know that 685,000 in a population of 68million is a terrifying 1%....

Well if you want context, 685,000 is not far short of the population of Bristol.

How many homes are there in Bristol?
How many Schools are there in Bristol?
How many GP surgeries are there in Bristol?
How many hospitals are there in Bristol?
Etc,etc,etc

If you abolished Bristol and dispersed all the Bristolians around the UK, no one would take much notice as it wouldn't have much impact on communities around the country, but do it year after year and people start to see the effects in their area. 
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 May 2024, 12:36:03
Net immigration figures out today of 685,000. :o :o :o :o
A 10% drop from the year before:

Net migration to UK fell 10% last year, ONS says https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce99y7l741po)


Adding context to a big scary number? It will never catch on. Nobody wants to know that 685,000 in a population of 68million is a terrifying 1%....

Well if you want context, 685,000 is not far short of the population of Bristol.

How many homes are there in Bristol?
How many Schools are there in Bristol?
How many GP surgeries are there in Bristol?
How many hospitals are there in Bristol?
Etc,etc,etc

If you abolished Bristol and dispersed all the Bristolians around the UK, no one would take much notice as it wouldn't have much impact on communities around the country, but do it year after year and people start to see the effects in their area.

You only have to look at the problems not just here in blighty, but across Europe.

France has no end of problems, as does Germany. And just look at the problems in Sweden.

Ireland have also been given a kicking as they have such a small population.

Also...the figure of 685,000 is likely to be rounded up.

The previous year the figure was 606,000 before being rounded up to almost 750,000.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 25 May 2024, 13:07:45
Would it be unreasonable for anyone with a title was automatically legally unelectable?
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: redelitev6 on 25 May 2024, 15:03:57
Sadly the Tories just seem to look shambolic , like they fully expect to lose and just can't be ars*d with the election , so many MPs not standing isn't a good sign for them .
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 26 May 2024, 12:46:03
I think Rishi has finally lost his marbles. Military service or weekend volunteering for every 18 year old.....as if 😂😂
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 May 2024, 12:50:34
It gives the media something to chatter about for a week, which means he doesnt actually have to conduct a proper election campaign or talk about the real issues.
Even if he did get elected, it would never happen and he must know it, unless he has genuinely gone mad.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: ronnyd on 26 May 2024, 13:35:28
I think Rishi has finally lost his marbles. Military service or weekend volunteering for every 18 year old.....as if 😂😂
He'll have to get some of 'em out of bed first.  ;)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 26 May 2024, 14:26:40
I think Rishi has finally lost his marbles. Military service or weekend volunteering for every 18 year old.....as if 😂😂

What a complete and utter clown show!  ;D

They keep bringing this up though, which makes me wonder what is coming down the tracks?  :-\
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 26 May 2024, 14:59:02
I think Rishi has finally lost his marbles. Military service or weekend volunteering for every 18 year old.....as if 😂😂

What a complete and utter clown show!  ;D

They keep bringing this up though, which makes me wonder what is coming down the tracks?  :-\
It really doesn't matter what's coming down the tracks, most 18 year old would rather learn to speak Russian than get out of bed.  ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 May 2024, 16:38:37
Who do you think you are kidding Mr. Sunak.  :D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 26 May 2024, 16:42:21
Who do you think you are kidding Mr. Sunak.  :D
Rishi would be more at home in it ain't half hot mum   ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 May 2024, 19:24:28
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Varche on 26 May 2024, 19:44:32
I think Rishi has finally lost his marbles. Military service or weekend volunteering for every 18 year old.....as if 😂😂

Maybe but it would be a good way for youngsters to know the right end of a gun.  War is inevitable. Also a vote winner for scared p ensioners
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 26 May 2024, 21:41:51
I think Rishi has finally lost his marbles. Military service or weekend volunteering for every 18 year old.....as if 😂😂

Maybe but it would be a good way for youngsters to know the right end of a gun.  War is inevitable. Also a vote winner for scared p ensioners
Most youngsters in Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds and, most definitely, London know exactly how a gun works.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Mister Rog on 27 May 2024, 05:01:36
I'm guessing the 1922 committee had almost enough letters of intent to kick him out. Ask Graham Brady.

Ah yes, Sir Graham Brady chair of the 1922 Committee that got shot of Boris and manipulated Sunak into No 10. The Sir Graham Brady who is now standing down at the election, deserting the sinking ship that he helped blow a hole in. That Sir Graham Brady  . .

https://www.itv.com/news/2024-05-24/full-list-of-the-119-mps-standing-down-at-the-general-election

Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 27 May 2024, 11:32:00
Just get rid of them all and put just two in the commons👍 husband and wife who have been married for decades with a few kids and know how to argue properly. Job done.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 27 May 2024, 12:58:25
Just get rid of them all and put just two in the commons👍 husband and wife who have been married for decades with a few kids and know how to argue properly. Job done.

Duck fat!  They never get past arguing what wallpaper to put up FFS!  ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Nick W on 27 May 2024, 14:04:04
I think Rishi has finally lost his marbles. Military service or weekend volunteering for every 18 year old.....as if 😂😂


It's just another distraction from solutions to real problems, just like the asinine Rwanda deportations to stop illegal immigration. The howls of laughter mean the perpetrators can stand back and say 'we had a plan, but you vetoed it'.


I think it's likely that the Conservative party as a whole has no expectation of winning the election, so they're playing the same fantasy politics that the Lib-Dems have for years.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 May 2024, 14:17:20
So what actual policies do Labour have beyond screwing over the hardworking to the benefit of the fat and lazy  :-\

SKS would be more credible as a potential PM if he was a baggage handler or bus driver. Although that's arguably true of all of them.

Reform is the domestic equivalent of the Leave campaign of Brexit.

Do the Lib Dems even exist?

The Tories, well, the 112 deserve what's coming, the rest are doing little to help their cause, or the country.

Basically we're going to end up with 400 or so independent MPs as the majority, united by the fact that they represent nothing.

Best case scenario is that we turn into Belgium, worst case we become part of China.

Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 27 May 2024, 14:31:25
Personally speaking, I will vote on my way to the US to enjoy the 4th in a country that has some actual pride in itself :-X

If nothing else, the ensuing hangover will help with the fallout that I will return to.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 28 May 2024, 22:08:31
Angela Rayner has been "cleared by the Police of any wrongdoing over her housing arrangements.
Must have been the same policw who cleared Starmer for breaking lockdown rules.
More importantly, thee ginger slapper was caught on camera in the last few days, speaking to Muslim elders and told them that "once we are in Govt. we will recognise the state of Palestine !
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 29 May 2024, 08:12:06
I have never been so disinterested in an election, so much so I am actively avoiding news and reports on it!

No confidence in any of them, Roland Rat is a muppet and I would not trust Starmer to sweep my drive.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 29 May 2024, 08:21:10
I think its a similar story with most people. I expect a record low turnout.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 May 2024, 12:09:39
The Tory party will get a good kicking and deservedly so.

However, a vast number of voters are yet to be convinced by the constipated dullard Starmer.

Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 29 May 2024, 12:11:25
Angela Rayner has been "cleared by the Police of any wrongdoing over her housing arrangements.
Must have been the same policw who cleared Starmer for breaking lockdown rules.
More importantly, thee ginger slapper was caught on camera in the last few days, speaking to Muslim elders and told them that "once we are in Govt. we will recognise the state of Palestine !
The 'Muslim vote' handed Starmer a document with 18 demands saying, if he didn't agree to implement them, they would put up candidates against Labour.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: ronnyd on 29 May 2024, 12:20:08
I have never been so disinterested in an election, so much so I am actively avoiding news and reports on it!

No confidence in any of them, Roland Rat is a muppet and I would not trust Starmer to sweep my drive.
Precisely my feelings too.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Rangie on 29 May 2024, 17:06:51
They're all a bunch of corrupt useless cu**s.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 29 May 2024, 17:20:28
Angela Rayner has been "cleared by the Police of any wrongdoing over her housing arrangements.
Must have been the same policw who cleared Starmer for breaking lockdown rules.
More importantly, thee ginger slapper was caught on camera in the last few days, speaking to Muslim elders and told them that "once we are in Govt. we will recognise the state of Palestine !
The 'Muslim vote' handed Starmer a document with 18 demands saying, if he didn't agree to implement them, they would put up candidates against Labour.

The interesting thing about the meeting where she was begging the Muslim elders to vote Labour. While she was speaking to them they all looked at the walls because they wouldnt look at a Woman who was speaking to them.
This from the party of equality etc. etc.
They would sell their own granny for a vote.  ::)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 29 May 2024, 17:23:29
Angela Rayner has been "cleared by the Police of any wrongdoing over her housing arrangements.
Must have been the same policw who cleared Starmer for breaking lockdown rules.
More importantly, thee ginger slapper was caught on camera in the last few days, speaking to Muslim elders and told them that "once we are in Govt. we will recognise the state of Palestine !
The 'Muslim vote' handed Starmer a document with 18 demands saying, if he didn't agree to implement them, they would put up candidates against Labour.


......and as the number rises so the demands will increase. Inevitable really.

The ginger growler has also tried to appeal to the Muslim community........or should that read appease rather than appeal.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 29 May 2024, 20:44:31
Angela Rayner has been "cleared by the Police of any wrongdoing over her housing arrangements.
Must have been the same policw who cleared Starmer for breaking lockdown rules.
More importantly, thee ginger slapper was caught on camera in the last few days, speaking to Muslim elders and told them that "once we are in Govt. we will recognise the state of Palestine !
The 'Muslim vote' handed Starmer a document with 18 demands saying, if he didn't agree to implement them, they would put up candidates against Labour.

The interesting thing about the meeting where she was begging the Muslim elders to vote Labour. While she was speaking to them they all looked at the walls because they wouldnt look at a Woman who was speaking to them.
This from the party of equality etc. etc.
They would sell their own granny for a vote.  ::)

Yes she had a very diverse audience!  ::)

Where were the gays, the trans, the intersex and the rest of the alphabet soup?  ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 29 May 2024, 22:02:53
Angela Rayner has been "cleared by the Police of any wrongdoing over her housing arrangements.
Must have been the same policw who cleared Starmer for breaking lockdown rules.
More importantly, thee ginger slapper was caught on camera in the last few days, speaking to Muslim elders and told them that "once we are in Govt. we will recognise the state of Palestine !
The 'Muslim vote' handed Starmer a document with 18 demands saying, if he didn't agree to implement them, they would put up candidates against Labour.


......and as the number rises so the demands will increase. Inevitable really.

The ginger growler has also tried to appeal to the Muslim community........or should that read appease rather than appeal.

               Yep she was bent over gagging for it👍
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Rangie on 30 May 2024, 07:43:00
We're in Crete at the moment with all the family, the more time we stay away from the UK the better, it's become an utter shithole & will only get worse. It's  absolutely spotless where we are & people are happy & smiling.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 30 May 2024, 08:30:35
It has been discovered that our future Deputy PM (the ginger slapper) has a son (and his wife) who are porn stars on only fans.  ;D
You can take the Chav out of the council estate....... ::)

https://order-order.com/2024/05/29/revealed-angela-rayners-porn-star-son/
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 30 May 2024, 11:38:21
It has been discovered that our future Deputy PM (the ginger slapper) has a son (and his wife) who are porn stars on only fans.  ;D
You can take the Chav out of the council estate....... ::)

https://order-order.com/2024/05/29/revealed-angela-rayners-porn-star-son/
That's getting sent to everyone I know  :)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 30 May 2024, 15:03:08
When the media were asking her awkward questions about her past living arrangements a couple of weeks ago she complained bitterly about her families privacy being invaded.
Looks like they arent too bothered about privacy. Not even in the bedroom. ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: TheBoy on 31 May 2024, 10:11:20
I was gonna vote just to get the useless current bint Ledsom out.  But as she's stepping down now anyway, that opens all options again...    ...although they are all equally pointless and full of shit.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 May 2024, 10:42:10
I would have assumed you would be voting Labour this time.
I will bet my pension that much of their efforts, once elected, will be put into lining us up to rejoin the EU, while all the time strongly denying that they have any intention of ever doing it.
If they get a second term, we will probably be back in. Their major problem will be how to get away with doing it without holding a referendum.
Blair will be pulling Starmers strings from day one. In fact he is almost certainly already pulling them.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 31 May 2024, 12:09:09
Meanwhil, would be working class hero and champion of all things green - Starmer -  been forced to admit that he has been flying around the UK this week in a private jet.  ::)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: TheBoy on 31 May 2024, 13:46:47
I would have assumed you would be voting Labour this time.
I will bet my pension that much of their efforts, once elected, will be put into lining us up to rejoin the EU, while all the time strongly denying that they have any intention of ever doing it.
If they get a second term, we will probably be back in. Their major problem will be how to get away with doing it without holding a referendum.
Blair will be pulling Starmers strings from day one. In fact he is almost certainly already pulling them.
The thought dreaded me, but it was potentially on the cards to vote that way to get our current MP out :o.  I mean, I'd potentially even vote for Reform to get her out, useless cow.  Fortunately, not necessary now. Not that any replacement (from any party) will be any more use.

I can't see how we could rejoin the EU as it exists now without a referendum. If such a referendum happened, then the whole thing was a waste of time, as all what would have happened is the UK lost its privileges.  I suspect another referendum would have a different outcome this time around, as even the most blinkered can see we are worse off than we were 5 years go, and we've seen none of the promised benefits. Not even a hint.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 31 May 2024, 19:03:30
Whilst conveniently ignoring the impact of TCV on the public purse.

We're better off than our primary competitors in Euroland, in spite of what the leftist media wants you to believe.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Kevin Wood on 31 May 2024, 19:22:48
Whilst conveniently ignoring the impact of TCV on the public purse.

We're better off than our primary competitors in Euroland, in spite of what the leftist media wants you to believe.

.. and it's not as if we'd sail back into membership without the EUrocrats getting their revenge. We'd have to sign up to the Euro, Schengen and who knows what else they'll invent that would never fly here? For better or worse, that door is now closed for a generation.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 May 2024, 21:01:01
Whilst conveniently ignoring the impact of TCV on the public purse.

We're better off than our primary competitors in Euroland, in spite of what the leftist media wants you to believe.

.. and it's not as if we'd sail back into membership without the EUrocrats getting their revenge. We'd have to sign up to the Euro, Schengen and who knows what else they'll invent that would never fly here? For better or worse, that door is now closed for a generation.

It doesn't stop the poor demented souls from bleating about it though.  ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 01 June 2024, 11:42:39
Let’s hope the door is firmly shut on that. People need to get on with now not if this if that fairy tales
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: TheBoy on 01 June 2024, 18:19:00
For better or worse, that door is now closed for a generation.
What's what we thought for the Scots, but I bet as soon as July 5th, if the outcome is not clear cut, the SNP will do a coalition if they get another bash...
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 01 June 2024, 18:22:29
Whilst conveniently ignoring the impact of TCV on the public purse.

We're better off than our primary competitors in Euroland, in spite of what the leftist media wants you to believe.

.. and it's not as if we'd sail back into membership without the EUrocrats getting their revenge. We'd have to sign up to the Euro, Schengen and who knows what else they'll invent that would never fly here? For better or worse, that door is now closed for a generation.

Never underestimate the deviousness of the Europhile movement.  ;)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 03 June 2024, 18:35:37
Farage has U turned and decided to stand for election as an MP. Also taking over the leadership of Reform from Richard Tice. Oh dear, Rishi 😂
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 03 June 2024, 19:09:57
I may have to move in with Brother in law for a month so I can cast my vote accordingly.  :)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 June 2024, 19:33:18
It certainly changes things somewhat...
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 June 2024, 19:52:07
Farage has U turned and decided to stand for election as an MP. Also taking over the leadership of Reform from Richard Tice. Oh dear, Rishi 😂

Yes....but I also believe Reform can also take a significant number of Labour votes in the north. I doubt the people from the former red wall will give the Tory party their vote again.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Varche on 03 June 2024, 20:40:44
So where does Reform stand on the US election?

I thought Farage was all for Trump?
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 03 June 2024, 20:46:15
So where does Reform stand on the US election?

I thought Farage was all for Trump?

Reform can't stand in the US election!  ::)  :P  ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 June 2024, 21:12:04
So where does Reform stand on the US election?

I thought Farage was all for Trump?
Largely irrelevant. Trump will do what he did last time and run the country with the best interest of the US in mind rather than the interests of the Biden and Obama families and secondly, the WEF.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 June 2024, 21:12:46
So where does Reform stand on the US election?

I thought Farage was all for Trump?

Reform can't stand in the US election!  ::)  :P  ;D
Nor can our Nige, however much he might want to  ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Varche on 03 June 2024, 21:57:51
Largely irrelevant?

I don’t think so. People vote on wider issues.

The way the US goes has a huge bearing on us here in Europe.

Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 June 2024, 23:34:04
But we go to the polls first. It's nearly six months until the next President elect is, er, elected. ;)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 04 June 2024, 00:23:51
So where does Reform stand on the US election?

I thought Farage was all for Trump?
Largely irrelevant. Trump will do what he did last time and run the country with the best interest of the US in mind rather than the interests of the Biden and Obama families and secondly, the WEF.

                 Hear hear👏🏿
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 04 June 2024, 07:29:45
Ive just read on another forum that the Tories had some kind of election broadcast last night at 7pm.
They had footage of a Union flag fluttering - upside down ffs !
Says it all really.  ::)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 June 2024, 10:41:02
Ive just read on another forum that the Tories had some kind of election broadcast last night at 7pm.
They had footage of a Union flag fluttering - upside down ffs !
Says it all really.  ::)
There's no end of AI engineered shyte floating around, and very little of it is either genuine or accurate.

This might be even more of an issue than it was for Brexit or the last US election.

Basically ignore anything you see about the election and go with your instinct.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 04 June 2024, 11:32:50
Ive just read on another forum that the Tories had some kind of election broadcast last night at 7pm.
They had footage of a Union flag fluttering - upside down ffs !
Says it all really.  ::)
It was very amateurish, just sound bites with pictures of Tory politicians being tŵats up and down the country, lots of big letters on screen and crap music. Oh, and an upside down union flag  ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 June 2024, 12:31:04
Ive just read on another forum that the Tories had some kind of election broadcast last night at 7pm.
They had footage of a Union flag fluttering - upside down ffs !
Says it all really.  ::)
It was very amateurish, just sound bites with pictures of Tory politicians being tŵats up and down the country, lots of big letters on screen and crap music. Oh, and an upside down union flag  ;D
Pretty similar to the Leftie ones then ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 04 June 2024, 14:38:21
They’re all shitheads
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 05 June 2024, 07:54:37
 ;D ;D

(https://i.ibb.co/n6wwxYg/IMG-0508.png) (https://ibb.co/pb11YM0)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 05 June 2024, 08:35:30
Clacton is known locally as Cracktown on sea. Its an absolute dump of a place, although some of the surrounding areas are nice.
We had a wander around Clacton for an hour about a year ago.
There seemed to be two main groups of people who hang around the town. The drug addicts and the alcoholics.
A shame but probably not untypical of seaside towns whose heyday is long gone.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Nick W on 05 June 2024, 09:09:47
Ive just read on another forum that the Tories had some kind of election broadcast last night at 7pm.
They had footage of a Union flag fluttering - upside down ffs !
Says it all really.  ::)
There's no end of AI engineered shyte floating around, and very little of it is either genuine or accurate.

This might be even more of an issue than it was for Brexit or the last US election.

Basically ignore anything you see about the election and go with your instinct.




That sums up the real problem with politics - the encouragement to make important decisions using emotion instead of reason. It also explains how each faction can use the same simple fact to justify diametrically opposed policies.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 June 2024, 11:30:12
Clacton is known locally as Cracktown on sea. Its an absolute dump of a place, although some of the surrounding areas are nice.
We had a wander around Clacton for an hour about a year ago.
There seemed to be two main groups of people who hang around the town. The drug addicts and the alcoholics.
A shame but probably not untypical of seaside towns whose heyday is long gone.

When Net Zero really lands on us with the legally binding 'carbon budgets' imposed by the all powerful and completely unaccountable Climate Change Committee, and cheap holiday flights are banned, those seaside town heydays might come back if people can't jet off to Shagaluf for their week in the sun.  :)

That's if they're even allowed out of their 15 minute city.  :-X
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Varche on 05 June 2024, 14:45:21
Saw what is probably a 7 minute on social media. Horrible block of flats housing 20,000 folk with everything they need on site. What a truly horrible existence.

I think you are right about seaside towns renaissance . Those with families could do worse than snap up property in an unloved seaside town as an inheritance.

It can’t be long before someone spots the lunacy of holiday makers flying out to then catch a cruise. Maybe you could cycle to work for a year to earn carbon etc credits for two weeks of mass pollution.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Andy B on 05 June 2024, 14:58:33
....
 Maybe you could cycle to work for a year to earn carbon etc credits for two weeks of mass pollution.

.... it'd be time to set off to work again by the time I got home  ..... I'd have to stop over,  it wouldn't be worth coming back home!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Varche on 05 June 2024, 15:47:52
There you are . You need the 15 minute city!  ;D

We would just have to go hungry
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Andy B on 05 June 2024, 17:44:49
There you are . You need the 15 minute city!  ;D
;D ;D ;D

We would just have to go hungry
Does anyone still buy Heinz Beanz considering how expensive they are compared to other & own brands?  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 05 June 2024, 18:09:29
There you are . You need the 15 minute city!  ;D
;D ;D ;D

We would just have to go hungry
Does anyone still buy Heinz Beanz considering how expensive they are compared to other & own brands?  :-\ :-\
Yes, I do.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: countrywoman on 05 June 2024, 18:53:32
and so you should as they are the only ones that taste right!
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 June 2024, 18:58:17
There you are . You need the 15 minute city!  ;D
;D ;D ;D

We would just have to go hungry
Does anyone still buy Heinz Beanz considering how expensive they are compared to other & own brands?  :-\ :-\
Yes, I do.[/highlight]

The only beans I actually avoid are Heinz beanz.

Ridiculously expensive soggy tasteless shite.

Lidl, Aldi, and Tesco beanz are what us poor people eat at about 35p a tin. :)

Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 05 June 2024, 19:08:17
https://youtu.be/GUkWeVEXFcU?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/GUkWeVEXFcU?feature=shared)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Varche on 05 June 2024, 19:30:12
There you are . You need the 15 minute city!  ;D
;D ;D ;D

We would just have to go hungry
Does anyone still buy Heinz Beanz considering how expensive they are compared to other & own brands?  :-\ :-\

Well yes. Local Spanish supermarkets stock them but the price is astronomical. Enough is enough. We buy the Spanish brand which are surprisingly good.but for a treat I buy a jar or beans and drain them and create my own sauce………….
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 05 June 2024, 20:44:21
Far too much sugar in them for my liking. Rarely eat beans anyway, just junk food imo.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 June 2024, 20:56:01
(https://i.postimg.cc/hvj93VrK/2cheeks.jpg)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 05 June 2024, 22:13:47
Brilliant.  :y ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 June 2024, 17:40:37
Ive just read on another forum that the Tories had some kind of election broadcast last night at 7pm.
They had footage of a Union flag fluttering - upside down ffs !
Says it all really.  ::)
There's no end of AI engineered shyte floating around, and very little of it is either genuine or accurate.

This might be even more of an issue than it was for Brexit or the last US election.

Basically ignore anything you see about the election and go with your instinct.




That sums up the real problem with politics - the encouragement to make important decisions using emotion instead of reason. It also explains how each faction can use the same simple fact to justify diametrically opposed policies.
That's the thing, if you can't trust whatever is being presented what else do you have?
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: grifter on 06 June 2024, 22:41:51
Instead of an election can't we the public have a vote of no confidence and see who gets the least votes?
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 07 June 2024, 19:44:13
Labour agreed their manifesto a couple of hours ago.
Unite have already refused to endorse it. They will have to rewrite the script.  ::)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 07 June 2024, 21:21:20
To be fair Lab/Con/Lib, they have never done anything good I would say for many years let’s give Reform a chance👍 how the fu(k could they be any worse??
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Andy B on 07 June 2024, 21:36:40
https://youtu.be/GUkWeVEXFcU?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/GUkWeVEXFcU?feature=shared)

 :-[
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: grifter on 07 June 2024, 22:35:56
To be fair Lab/Con/Lib, they have never done anything good I would say for many years let’s give Reform a chance👍 how the fu(k could they be any worse??

Same cheeks of the same arse (if you had 3 arse cheeks!) you could probably not do any worse than that shower even if you tried, it's obvious their paymasters aren't the British electorate, more likely Klaus "anal" Schwab!
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 07 June 2024, 23:03:40
Indeed at least it would probably expose some of the parasites
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 08 June 2024, 12:55:40
Labour agreed their manifesto a couple of hours ago.
Unite have already refused to endorse it. They will have to rewrite the script.  ::)

Probably not enough tax and spend in it!  ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 11 June 2024, 15:29:41
Was that Uncle STEMO chucking stones at Farage in Barnsley today?   :o   ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Rangie on 11 June 2024, 16:43:47
I'm really looking forward to all the marvellous things that are in store for us , once we have a new PM we won't believe how lucky we are.. what a load of absolute shite they're all promising. 😂
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 June 2024, 18:56:44
Was that Uncle STEMO chucking stones at Farage in Barnsley today?   :o   ;D


The stone chucker was about 80 years younger than your uncle......and he didn't have a whippet. :)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 11 June 2024, 22:22:35
I saw Bill Nighty looking most dapper on the front of a paper today and thought for a moment he was running for PM...

That may have been an improvement over the other options.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Andy B on 12 June 2024, 15:42:33
poor under privileged Rishi not having had SKY telly when he was a kid. I've only had SKY for a year .... not for the telly but for their interweb.

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qql1wk794o
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Andy B on 12 June 2024, 15:43:57
I saw Bill Nighty looking most dapper on the front of a paper today and thought for a moment he was running for PM...

That may have been an improvement over the other options.

Who's he?  ::) Is that Bill Nighy when he's ready for bed?  ;) ;)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 June 2024, 16:59:49
poor under privileged Rishi not having had SKY telly when he was a kid. I've only had SKY for a year .... not for the telly but for their interweb.

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qql1wk794o

I'm not Sunak's biggest fan as I think he's done some stupid things whilst Chancellor and PM, like jacking up Corporation Tax for example.  ::)

However... These constant digs about his wealth do get on my tits, as yes his parents sent him to a top private school, but they are exactly the type that will get clobbered with Labour's VAT raid on private schools. As I understand it his dad was a GP and his Mum was a Pharmacist, so while probably 'comfortable', not exactly super wealthy, and Winchester Colleges fees were probably a stretch for them. 

It turned out to be a good investment as young Rishi went on to forge a successful career in banking and finance and obviously made a lot of cash in his own right.  Good for him!  :y
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Andy B on 12 June 2024, 17:21:49
poor under privileged Rishi not having had SKY telly when he was a kid. I've only had SKY for a year .... not for the telly but for their interweb.

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qql1wk794o

I'm not Sunak's biggest fan as I think he's done some stupid things whilst Chancellor and PM, like jacking up Corporation Tax for example.  ::)

However... These constant digs about his wealth do get on my tits, as yes his parents sent him to a top private school, but they are exactly the type that will get clobbered with Labour's VAT raid on private schools. As I understand it his dad was a GP and his Mum was a Pharmacist, so while probably 'comfortable', not exactly super wealthy, and Winchester Colleges fees were probably a stretch for them. 

It turned out to be a good investment as young Rishi went on to forge a successful career in banking and finance and obviously made a lot of cash in his own right.  Good for him!  :y

a bit more than comfortable I would say if the average GP's salary is £92k .... though as you say, college fees would be considerable.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 12 June 2024, 18:08:20
poor under privileged Rishi not having had SKY telly when he was a kid. I've only had SKY for a year .... not for the telly but for their interweb.

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qql1wk794o

I'm not Sunak's biggest fan as I think he's done some stupid things whilst Chancellor and PM, like jacking up Corporation Tax for example.  ::)

However... These constant digs about his wealth do get on my tits, as yes his parents sent him to a top private school, but they are exactly the type that will get clobbered with Labour's VAT raid on private schools. As I understand it his dad was a GP and his Mum was a Pharmacist, so while probably 'comfortable', not exactly super wealthy, and Winchester Colleges fees were probably a stretch for them. 

It turned out to be a good investment as young Rishi went on to forge a successful career in banking and finance and obviously made a lot of cash in his own right.  Good for him!  :y

a bit more than comfortable I would say if the average GP's salary is £92k .... though as you say, college fees would be considerable.
I would say £92K was just a 'comfortable' salary today, especially if there is only a single earner.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Andy B on 12 June 2024, 18:36:49
....
I would say £92K was just a 'comfortable' salary today, especially if there is only a single earner.

I don't go short myself .... but as SWMBO only works 14 hours a week, I wouldn't mind being paid a comfortable salary  ::)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 12 June 2024, 18:48:14
I wouldnt mind being paid half a comfortable salary, and I am a single earner in the house.  ::)

I do agree about the annoyance of media banging on about Rishis money though.
Especially when they claim he s a billionaire. His father in law is one, but that doesnt make him one.  ::)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Andy B on 12 June 2024, 18:56:55
but my point wasn't about money/salary, it was the fact that Rishi thought that going without SKY telly was a big thing!  ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 June 2024, 18:57:22
I wouldnt mind being paid half a comfortable salary, and I am a single earner in the house.  ::)

I do agree about the annoyance of media banging on about Rishis money though.
Especially when they claim he s a billionaire. His father in law is one, but that doesnt make him one.  ::)

It's like he committed a cardinal sin for marrying a girl from a wealthy family FFS!  >:(

I despise the envy, bitterness and hatred that people have in this country towards wealthy people. The country would quickly collapse if they left and took their money with them.  ::)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 June 2024, 19:05:14
I saw Bill Nighty looking most dapper on the front of a paper today and thought for a moment he was running for PM...

That may have been an improvement over the other options.

Who's he?  ::) Is that Bill Nighy when he's ready for bed?  ;) ;)
;D

He'd probably wear a three piece suit for that too :D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Andy B on 12 June 2024, 19:28:37
I saw Bill Nighty looking most dapper on the front of a paper today and thought for a moment he was running for PM...

That may have been an improvement over the other options.

Who's he?  ::) Is that Bill Nighy when he's ready for bed?  ;) ;)
;D

He'd probably wear a three piece suit for that too :D

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: ronnyd on 12 June 2024, 19:59:22
I wouldnt mind being paid half a comfortable salary, and I am a single earner in the house.  ::)

I do agree about the annoyance of media banging on about Rishis money though.
Especially when they claim he s a billionaire. His father in law is one, but that doesnt make him one.  ::)

It's like he committed a cardinal sin for marrying a girl from a wealthy family FFS!  >:(

I despise the envy, bitterness and hatred that people have in this country towards wealthy people. The country would quickly collapse if they left and took their money with them.  ::)
I think that's what we'd all be happy with.  :D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 12 June 2024, 20:08:11
I wouldnt mind being paid half a comfortable salary, and I am a single earner in the house.  ::)

I do agree about the annoyance of media banging on about Rishis money though.
Especially when they claim he s a billionaire. His father in law is one, but that doesnt make him one.  ::)
I'm guessing you have a good military pension as well.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 13 June 2024, 06:55:15
Me ? Military ?  :o
Im assuming theres a punchline to come ?  ;D

No pension of any kind so far. Im planning to work until 70, then work and state pension will hopefully pay the bills and leave some for buying spanners Im too old to use.  ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 13 June 2024, 11:55:31
Me ? Military ?  :o
Im assuming theres a punchline to come ?  ;D

No pension of any kind so far. Im planning to work until 70, then work and state pension will hopefully pay the bills and leave some for buying spanners Im too old to use.  ;D
Sorry, Albs, that was for Andy Beanz  :-[
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Andy B on 13 June 2024, 14:26:36
....
Sorry, Albs, that was for Andy Beanz  :-[

my Navy pension will be neither here nor there .... £3500ish per year IIRC the last time I looked.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 13 June 2024, 14:28:04
....
Sorry, Albs, that was for Andy Beanz  :-[

my Navy pension will be neither here nor there .... £3500ish per year IIRC the last time I looked.
That's not much! How long did you serve?
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 13 June 2024, 14:31:03
When I served in the army (only for six years), if you started at 18 and retired at 40, so 22 years, you'd retire on about two thirds of your pay, plus a lump sum. In your last year of service, you could take up the offer of training for a new career.
I believe the pension is nowhere near as much now.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 June 2024, 15:42:10
Pension, what pension. :-X

I live hand to mouth while all you coffin dodgers are living the life of a wealthy playboy. :)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 June 2024, 15:44:56
Me ? Military ?  :o
Im assuming theres a punchline to come ?  ;D

No pension of any kind so far. Im planning to work until 70, then work and state pension will hopefully pay the bills and leave some for buying spanners Im too old to use.  ;D

My grandfather did this which in turn allowed him a larger pension. :y

He was dead and gone well before his 71st birthday. ::) :-X
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 13 June 2024, 16:16:12
Pension, what pension. :-X

I live hand to mouth while all you coffin dodgers are living the life of a wealthy playboy. :)
Glad you're finally admitting that you're old enough to draw a pension.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 June 2024, 16:54:50
Pension, what pension. :-X

I live hand to mouth while all you coffin dodgers are living the life of a wealthy playboy. :)
Glad you're finally admitting that you're old enough to draw a pension.

I'm speaking of a private pension that I do not have.

It's food banks and sleeping under a bush for me. ::)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 June 2024, 17:28:10
Pension, what pension. :-X

I live hand to mouth while all you coffin dodgers are living the life of a wealthy playboy. :)

I think I'll sell up and exile myself in Thailand and live like a king!  :y
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 June 2024, 17:37:06
Pension, what pension. :-X

I live hand to mouth while all you coffin dodgers are living the life of a wealthy playboy. :)

I think I'll sell up and exile myself in Thailand and live like a king!  :y

Sounds like a plan. :y

Beware of ladyboys though, especially if you've been enjoying too much of the local brew. :)

Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 June 2024, 21:00:40
Pension, what pension. :-X

I live hand to mouth while all you coffin dodgers are living the life of a wealthy playboy. :)

I think I'll sell up and exile myself in Thailand and live like a king!  :y

Sounds like a plan. :y

Beware of ladyboys though, especially if you've been enjoying too much of the local brew. :)

Yes they are much more convincing than the caucasian versions that's for sure.  ::)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 13 June 2024, 22:29:06
Reform have overtaken the Tories in the latest poll on YouTube.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 June 2024, 23:10:09
Reform have overtaken the Tories in the latest poll on YouTube.

So a vote for the Tories is a vote for Labour?  :)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 June 2024, 23:39:33
(https://i.postimg.cc/yN9YBjw7/yougov-poll-12-13june.jpg)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 14 June 2024, 07:39:18
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49735-reform-now-1pt-ahead-of-the-tories-although-this-is-still-within-the-margin-of-error
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Andy B on 14 June 2024, 10:27:00
....
Sorry, Albs, that was for Andy Beanz  :-[

my Navy pension will be neither here nor there .... £3500ish per year IIRC the last time I looked.
That's not much! How long did you serve?
Not long .... about 8 & half years. Seemed a long time at the time though.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 14 June 2024, 14:44:21
A vote for reform is the only sensible option in my view.. we know fully well what the other two shit parties are like👍👍
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 June 2024, 15:39:38
https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/49537-faqs-about-yougovs-2024-general-election-mrp-model

I wouldn't take any stock in that 'poll'. It's exceptionally easy to manipulate... The only need to survey 35 people in each constituency... Ask 100 people in a Labour seat and 35 in a Tory/other seat and that will easily produce the graphics shown :-X
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migalot on 14 June 2024, 17:45:03
A vote for reform is the only sensible option in my view.. we know fully well what the other two shit parties are like👍👍

Indeed. Both globalists.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 14 June 2024, 18:13:52
Is anyone watching the party election broadcast for reform?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 14 June 2024, 18:15:12
Britain is Broken
Britain Needs Reform

That was it, on the screen for five minutes
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 14 June 2024, 18:24:02
Well it’s true, what more do they need to say? At least they are not l telling a pile of lies like the rest of the cu!ts
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 14 June 2024, 18:42:43
Well it’s true, what more do they need to say? At least they are not l telling a pile of lies like the rest of the cu!ts
You do know, Rae, that reform will probably get one MP, Nigel Farage, and by diluting the Tory vote will enable a landslide for Labour.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migalot on 14 June 2024, 22:57:57
I remember clearly in previous general elections, they would say if you don't vote Conservative, you'll get Labour.

I fell for it, I admit.  What did we get? A bunch of immature halfwits who couldn't care less about the country and drove it into despair and debt — exactly what Labour would have done. Con/Lab are two sides of the same globalist backside.

I won't get fooled again.

At least Reform will break the two-party establishment. That can only be a bit better for the future.  :y

 
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 14 June 2024, 23:00:34
I fully agree.  :y
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 14 June 2024, 23:13:48
Yes Stemo that could possibly be the case but I think you should vote for what you want, there is no way in hell I’ll give my vote to any of the other bastards I don’t fu!king like them👍
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 15 June 2024, 07:07:08
Yes Stemo that could possibly be the case but I think you should vote for what you want, there is no way in hell I’ll give my vote to any of the other bastards I don’t fu!king like them👍
That's fair enough, and the correct way of looking at things. But people seem to be getting carried away by the thought of Reform gaining lots of seats and actually having a say. That's a long way off. With our first past the post system, even 30% of the national vote can get you nowhere. Ask the Lib Dem's.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 15 June 2024, 11:32:04
Yes unfortunately I know that, we need change though and unless people come together and vote for what they want overwhelmingly, things will probably stay the same🙁 although they will most likely find a way to fk us over anyway 🤬
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 15 June 2024, 12:08:15
This made me laugh!   ;D

(https://i.postimg.cc/jS5nGZQg/Farage-BLM.jpg)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 15 June 2024, 21:04:53
🤣🤣
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 June 2024, 19:13:47
Read through the Reform proposals today...

Pretty much agree the whole thing is pretty reasonable, although there are elements in the crime part that rings of Germany in the mid thirties. Not the policies so much as an undertone. Trouble is, in the face of alternatives, it's all very reasonable  :-\

My local Tory MP has held a reasonable account of himself thus far, however Reform have a candidate standing and one of my neighbours has a Labour sign up.

Point being, The Conservative party has had a good opportunity to do things but have really dropped the ball since the last election... I know TCV really f*cked over everyone but they've undone all the work post New Labours' clusterf*ck.

Normally I would vote Conservative, and I wouldn't Vote Labour as long as I have a hole in my arse... LimpDems/SDP/Greens are all a waste of fresh air and serve no real purpose.

Which only leaves one actual choice and inspite of my initial reservation, this shit sandwich does at least come with ketchup, mayo AND onion rings.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 18 June 2024, 21:43:12
Indeed and as you say, reasonable, or at least as reasonable as, and more I’d say than the the rest of the w@nkers, I think Farage while no demigod has good intentions and will try to keep his word. He gets my vote👍
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 19 June 2024, 12:24:04
This made me laugh!   ;D

(https://i.postimg.cc/jS5nGZQg/Farage-BLM.jpg)

This reminds me when the living dead corpse known as Nancy Pelosi (along with a bunch of other woke democrats) took the knee in honour of George Floyd.

She couldn't get back up again without help.... ;D ;D >:D
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 June 2024, 19:18:13
This is quite a long read from @admcollingwood on X, but I think it's a good analysis of what Labour might do if they win the election.  :y

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1803104439697313995.html







Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: redelitev6 on 19 June 2024, 20:46:37
This is quite a long read from @admcollingwood on X, but I think it's a good analysis of what Labour might do if they win the election.  :y

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1803104439697313995.html
I think you mean when they win the election
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 19 June 2024, 21:34:47
This is quite a long read from @admcollingwood on X, but I think it's a good analysis of what Labour might do if they win the election.  :y

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1803104439697313995.html
I think you mean when they win the election

Yes you're right, but I live in hope that Labour will mess it all up before July 4th.  ::)

It's bizarre that the British people seem so hell bent on punishing the Tories that they haven't reallly considered how bad the alternative might be. We're sleep walking into disaster in my opinion.  :(
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: STEMO on 19 June 2024, 21:44:46
This is quite a long read from @admcollingwood on X, but I think it's a good analysis of what Labour might do if they win the election.  :y

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1803104439697313995.html
I think you mean when they win the election

Yes you're right, but I live in hope that Labour will mess it all up before July 4th.  ::)

It's bizarre that the British people seem so hell bent on punishing the Tories that they haven't reallly considered how bad the alternative might be. We're sleep walking into disaster in my opinion.  :(
There is the potential for things to get completely out of control.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: redelitev6 on 19 June 2024, 22:37:29
Stop the boats ? what were the figures from yesterday , 800 asylum seekers , economic migrants  ? trust us with security , the Tories seem hell bent on self destruction , shambolic is the only word for them  :(
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 19 June 2024, 22:57:29
Almost 900 actually.  ;)
The one thing Labour wil do, without a doubt, is to start the process of taking us back into the EU.
They will deny they are doing it. The line will be its to have good friendly relations etc.
If they win a second term they will move heaven and earth to take us back in during that term.
Also, I give it two years before they start raiding our private pension pots again, just like Gormless Brown did.  :'(
They will more than likely make people who work beyond state pension age pay national insurance, and of course Im 16 months away from my pension age, but planning on working until Im 70, at least in part due to the big chunk of my pension they robbed last time they got the chance.  >:(
Theres no stopping it happening though. Its a foregone conclusion.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 20 June 2024, 02:45:53
Here's the thing...

Have spent a few pints with a lifelong Labour supporter (who has a degree in American Studies) and a life long Conservative voter who is adamant that he will vote labour.

I don't claim to be politically motivated, but I know what I have seen over the years and I trust my instinct on it even if I don't fully understand why I think what I think.

My initial response to the poll was to vote Conservative. My instinct is to stand by that, and here's why...

My local MP has held a reasonable account of himself, and whilst he is a a Conservative candidate, he personally has some merit. So, as my parliamentary representative, he deserves to carry on as such.

I cannot ignore the niggling bells from reading the Reform manifesto that it wouldn't be out of place in 1930s Germany or Austria, very reasonable but with distinct undertones. And that doesn't sit well.

I will never vote for Labour, ever because I know that I am not a Socialist or Communist. And as long as they seek to play Robin Hood, they will achieve nothing positive. Especially whilst they live the high life whilst claiming to represent the working classes.

I may not be a particularly successful capitalist, but I appreciate the concept agree with it fundamentally. I work for what I have and begrudge paying to support those who rip the arse out of the system simply because it's there.

In short, whilst the Tories deserve a damn good shit kicking, and management change, I will vote for my Conservative candidate based on his form rather than an unknown and unproven band wagon subscriber. Put another way, were he to stand as an independent, I would still vote for him.

Take a closer look at the Reform press images... For an unelected bunch, they've some smug tinkers in their front ranks.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 20 June 2024, 06:20:42
Comparing Reform to the Nazis is beyond ludicrous.  :o
If your MP is a good constituency MP then I would vote for him by all means. Thats what its supposed to be about after all. Its just that many of them seem to forget that small fact.
Personally I think that anyone who votes Labour for any reason needs to have a serious talk with themselves, or get put on stronger meds.
Most who vote Labour wont really be supporting them, but determined to get rid of the current lot.
As much as anything because theyve just been there too long, and not done much good while they were there.
We are about to get a Govt. that very few people actually want.
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 20 June 2024, 13:11:36
Indeed the voting system is out of touch with reality
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 20 June 2024, 19:15:35
Comparing Reform to the Nazis is beyond ludicrous.  :o
If your MP is a good constituency MP then I would vote for him by all means. Thats what its supposed to be about after all. Its just that many of them seem to forget that small fact.
Personally I think that anyone who votes Labour for any reason needs to have a serious talk with themselves, or get put on stronger meds.
Most who vote Labour wont really be supporting them, but determined to get rid of the current lot.
As much as anything because theyve just been there too long, and not done much good while they were there.
We are about to get a Govt. that very few people actually want.
Not suggesting that they are the Nazi Party, just that I sensed an undertone to some of the phrasing within parts of their manifesto that doesn't sit right for me. I can't quite put a finger on it, but equally I can't ignore it ;)
Title: Re: General election, possibly 4th July
Post by: Raeturbo on 21 June 2024, 00:30:06
Try harder 👍😁