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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Doctor Gollum on 06 August 2024, 02:32:16
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Riots and looting never achieved anything positive or useful. Smashing up everything smacks of spoilt brats' temper tantrums. If you have an issue with illegal immigrants, do something about it on the beaches or in the Channel...
How many people involved in this travesty actually bothered to vote?
How long before we face curfews, lockdows, or worse, martial law?
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Martial law? Have you been listening to Elon?
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How long before we face curfews, lockdows, or worse, martial law?
I don't know, but we will end up with identity cards, facial recognition everywhere and everything contrary to the liberal left woke agenda being labelled "Far right extremism" and de-platformed. :(
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Martial law? Have you been listening to Elon?
No. Don't have much time for Electric Jesus, although he's preferable to Bill Gates and Mr Jobs legacy.
Realistically it's a ways off, but at some point burning and looting has to be stopped as all it does is decimate communities and small business.
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How long before we face curfews, lockdows, or worse, martial law?
I don't know, but we will end up with identity cards, facial recognition everywhere and everything contrary to the liberal left woke agenda being labelled "Far right extremism" and de-platformed. :(
Racing certainty Kevin. Maybe brought in under the guise of a national health implanted chip or Smart watch. Something sending health data to base and you get called in if something out of normal parameters is detected. Most people already have an Id card in the form of a driving licence. In Spain we have Id cards which you are bound to carry with you at all times in public. Personally I haven’t an issue with them. They are useful for ordering stuff to be delivered eg building materials. Give your address and your unique card number. Gives the company some redress if you later don’t pay. ( I still find it a bit heathen having to pay for your food and drink here before you get it or consume it)
Plenty of cameras everywhere. Very very noticeable compared to say Spain which has quite strict rules on what and who can be recorded. Cameras on roads and if needed data from modern cars is already a tracking reality. Facial recognition. Isn’t that already being used to Id football hooligans.
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I've seen lots of chat about the Starminator using these riots to impose 'digital ID's' on us, which will morph into a full on Chinese style social credit system. :-\
No doubt egged on by the evil bastard Blair. >:(
However... My phone is only about 4 years old and already several apps don't work anymore because my version of Android is too old. Even the Lidl app FFS! :D
So how do they impose something like that on us which surely would require up to date software on peoples phones? ??? :-\
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I've seen lots of chat about the Starminator using these riots to impose 'digital ID's' on us, which will morph into a full on Chinese style social credit system. :-\
No doubt egged on by the evil bastard Blair. >:(
However... My phone is only about 4 years old and already several apps don't work anymore because my version of Android is too old. Even the Lidl app FFS! :D
So how do they impose something like that on us which surely would require up to date software on peoples phones? ??? :-\
Government issued phones to access government issued sites. :-\
That Treasonous waste of oxygen would be a very good starting point for something constructive :-X
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I'm glad I'm old ;D
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I'm glad I'm old ;D
Start stocking up on fuel for the log burner... No more winter fuel payments for ever.
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I'm glad I'm old ;D
Start stocking up on fuel for the log burner... No more winter fuel payments for ever.
Thanks to Rachel Theeves he can't afford logs. Brrr! ;D
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I'm glad I'm old ;D
Start stocking up on fuel for the log burner... No more winter fuel payments for ever.
I burn loads of wood.
Give me a 2 stroke petrol chainsaw and I'm a happy man. :y
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Problems in Brumingham last night. Very few police involved. ::)
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I've seen lots of chat about the Starminator using these riots to impose 'digital ID's' on us, which will morph into a full on Chinese style social credit system. :-\
No doubt egged on by the evil bastard Blair. >:(
However... My phone is only about 4 years old and already several apps don't work anymore because my version of Android is too old. Even the Lidl app FFS! :D
So how do they impose something like that on us which surely would require up to date software on peoples phones? ??? :-\
https://youtu.be/NXyzpMDtpSE?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/NXyzpMDtpSE?feature=shared)
Personally I like 'small government' that keeps it's nose out of my business.
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Personally I like 'small government' that keeps it's nose out of my business.
You used to be the forums resident lefty, but these days you're quite the Thatcherite! :)
What happened? ??? :-\
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The road to Damascus. :D
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Personally I like 'small government' that keeps it's nose out of my business.
You used to be the forums resident lefty, but these days you're quite the Thatcherite! :)
What happened? ??? :-\
Yes, but I was barely out of my teens back then. ::)
...and every young person is a socialist. :)
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The road to Damascus. :D
You are well to the right of Vlad the Impaler. ;D
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Personally I like 'small government' that keeps it's nose out of my business.
You used to be the forums resident lefty, but these days you're quite the Thatcherite! :)
What happened? ??? :-\
Yes, but I was barely out of my teens back then. ::)
...and every young person is a socialist. :)
Well yes I guess this forum has been around for some time now. :y
About 50 years M'lud? >:D
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The road to Damascus. :D
You are well to the right of Vlad the Impaler. ;D
Name rings a bell. Wasnt he that Communist fella ? :D
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He liked nailing hats to heads :D
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Sounds like a good man. :y ;D
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I'm more and more bewildered at the speed and spectrum of change that is occurring in the UK , and indeed here in Ireland too .
I thought it would be our children in later life that would start to feel the discomfort that diversity and happy happy multi culturism would bring but it's here ....now.
I do believe that we are all in a perilious state .
I've watched many videos by presenters on SM and Youtube over the weekend but this one really stood out . I think it may be that he spoke spontaniously with no , it seems , notes to prompt him ,his composure and matter of fact presentation kept me watching to the end .
It's not a short vid but you may feel the same as me when , or if , you watch it through .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEdB0fm_aaY
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Personally I like 'small government' that keeps it's nose out of my business.
You used to be the forums resident lefty, but these days you're quite the Thatcherite! :)
What happened? ??? :-\
He grew up. :D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEdB0fm_aaY
Not seen him before
he talks a lot of sense
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Yes I agree
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Yes I agree
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He certainly explains it very well.
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Appently 100 'far right' protests were planned for yesterday, but to my knowledge there was nothing organised anywhere near where I live. :-\ In fact if you drew a line from Bournemouth to Bristol, I'd confidently say there was nothing planned west of that line. A good chunk of the country. ::)
Yet the Stand Up To Racism crowd seemed to know exactly where it was all going on, and turned up in force to counter protest with their professionally printed placards at non existent events, which has uniformly been on all of the front pages today and presented as a victory. :-X
Is it me? ???
I do love a good conspiracy theory tho! ;D
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Appently 100 'far right' protests were planned for yesterday, but to my knowledge there was nothing organised anywhere near where I live. :-\ In fact if you drew a line from Bournemouth to Bristol, I'd confidently say there was nothing planned west of that line. A good chunk of the country. ::)
Yet the Stand Up To Racism crowd seemed to know exactly where it was all going on, and turned up in force to counter protest with their professionally printed placards at non existent events, which has uniformly been on all of the front pages today and presented as a victory. :-X
Is it me? ???
I do love a good conspiracy theory tho! ;D
They are saving the world by hunting Nazi scum.
Even to the point of slitting Nazi throats. ::)
They must be 'nice people ' though because they were holding refugees welcome placards, and no doubt have 'be kind' along with they/them pronouns on their Facebook page. :)
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Appently 100 'far right' protests were planned for yesterday, but to my knowledge there was nothing organised anywhere near where I live. :-\ In fact if you drew a line from Bournemouth to Bristol, I'd confidently say there was nothing planned west of that line. A good chunk of the country. ::)
Yet the Stand Up To Racism crowd seemed to know exactly where it was all going on, and turned up in force to counter protest with their professionally printed placards at non existent events, which has uniformly been on all of the front pages today and presented as a victory. :-X
Is it me? ???
I do love a good conspiracy theory tho! ;D
They are saving the world by hunting Nazi scum.
Even to the point of slitting Nazi throats. ::)
They must be 'nice people ' though because they were holding refugees welcome placards, and no doubt have 'be kind' along with they/them pronouns on their Facebook page. :)
Yes these people make a big song and dance about refugees welcome, just not in their leafy neighbourhoods that's all. :-X
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Appently 100 'far right' protests were planned for yesterday, but to my knowledge there was nothing organised anywhere near where I live. :-\ In fact if you drew a line from Bournemouth to Bristol, I'd confidently say there was nothing planned west of that line. A good chunk of the country. ::)
Yet the Stand Up To Racism crowd seemed to know exactly where it was all going on, and turned up in force to counter protest with their professionally printed placards at non existent events, which has uniformly been on all of the front pages today and presented as a victory. :-X
Is it me? ???
I do love a good conspiracy theory tho! ;D
They are saving the world by hunting Nazi scum.
Even to the point of slitting Nazi throats. ::)
They must be 'nice people ' though because they were holding refugees welcome placards, and no doubt have 'be kind' along with they/them pronouns on their Facebook page. :)
Yes these people make a big song and dance about refugees welcome, just not in their leafy neighbourhoods that's all. :-X
I'll wager that most of 'operation scatter' get distributed to the poorer parts of the north and midlands. :-X
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Al those pink & purple placards indicate Socialist Workers party.
Cant get much more far left then that, but the media call them Anti racism supporters.
Two tier reporting / policing / Government. ::)
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Al those pink & purple placards indicate Socialist Workers party.
Cant get much more far left then that, but the media call them Anti racism supporters.
Two tier reporting / policing / Government. ::)
There was definately something very peculiar occurred last night .
The complete absence of " far right " demonstrators but the en masse appearance on a Wednesday night of the " everybody's welcome ,we love you " brigade stretches credulity .
It's difficult not to occassionaly ponder if dark forces are pulling strings ......
Meanwhile , whilst our eyes are on these events the back door is still open and they are still piling in unnoticed.
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they where meant to come and smash up Burton on Trent
It didn't happen
they probably couldn't get here with all the roadworks, detours, pot holes etc ;D
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Al those pink & purple placards indicate Socialist Workers party.
Cant get much more far left then that, but the media call them Anti racism supporters.
Two tier reporting / policing / Government. ::)
There was definately something very peculiar occurred last night .
The complete absence of " far right " demonstrators but the en masse appearance on a Wednesday night of the " everybody's welcome ,we love you " brigade stretches credulity .
It's difficult not to occassionaly ponder if dark forces are pulling strings ......
Meanwhile , whilst our eyes are on these events the back door is still open and they are still piling in unnoticed.
Completely agree Don. :y
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So it seems that when the state is threatened they can deliver justice swiftly and TwoTierKeir seems to have taken a leaf out of the Yanks J6 playbook when it comes to handing down draconian sentences.
Although, I've not seen any convictions and sentences handed down so far, for carrying an offensive weapon, but then many of those types were allowed to 'self police' or were advised by police to leave their weapons in their place of worship so they wouldn't have to arrest them. :-X I even saw pictures of an elderly gent with a big bushy white beard dressed in white robes with a sodding great curved sword! :o ::)
Meanwhile if you are a victim of rape, sexual abuse, violence, robbery etc you have to wait months/years for justice and then see your assailant let off with a slap on the wrist! >:(
Ho hum... :-\
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Has anyone got any constructive suggestions on how these matters can be resolved? No?
We appear to be in a minority, so console yourselves with the fact that the majority are idiots who can't see what's coming and, when they do, it will be too late for them.
Great Britain ain't so great any more and the United Kingdom is definitely not united. It was ok while it lasted. Will the last one out turn off the lights.
Oh, and, I'm glad I'm old :)
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So it seems that when the state is threatened they can deliver justice swiftly and TwoTierKeir seems to have taken a leaf out of the Yanks J6 playbook when it comes to handing down draconian sentences.
Although, I've not seen any convictions and sentences handed down so far, for carrying an offensive weapon, but then many of those types were allowed to 'self police' or were advised by police to leave their weapons in their place of worship so they wouldn't have to arrest them. :-X I even saw pictures of an elderly gent with a big bushy white beard dressed in white robes with a sodding great curved sword! :o ::)
Meanwhile if you are a victim of rape, sexual abuse, violence, robbery etc you have to wait months/years for justice and then see your assailant let off with a slap on the wrist! >:(
Ho hum... :-\
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgj28e508jo No such urgency here >:(
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So it seems that when the state is threatened they can deliver justice swiftly and TwoTierKeir seems to have taken a leaf out of the Yanks J6 playbook when it comes to handing down draconian sentences.
Although, I've not seen any convictions and sentences handed down so far, for carrying an offensive weapon, but then many of those types were allowed to 'self police' or were advised by police to leave their weapons in their place of worship so they wouldn't have to arrest them. :-X I even saw pictures of an elderly gent with a big bushy white beard dressed in white robes with a sodding great curved sword! :o ::)
Meanwhile if you are a victim of rape, sexual abuse, violence, robbery etc you have to wait months/years for justice and then see your assailant let off with a slap on the wrist! >:(
Ho hum... :-\
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgj28e508jo No such urgency here >:(
Exactly. ::)
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I dare not post what I’m thinking right now but I’m sure there are many thinking the same things🤬🤬
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Regardless, smashing everything up and using it as a loose excuse for anarchy serves absolutely no useful purpose.
Civil order needs to be maintained and people who are unable to abide by the law of the land need to be held accountable swiftly and proportionately, regardless of where they are from or how they came to be here.
Being white or otherwise and born here doesn't exempt anyone from those laws.
The thing that pisses me off is that my taxes are expected to pay to support stupid lazy arseholes with nothing better to do than burn down libraries and Greggs.
Bringing back the death penalty and removing ourselves from the ECHR would go along way to incentivising civil obedience.
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Why not go the whole hog and introduce facial recognition cameras on every street corner a la Chinese and add death rays to save prison spaces and the police/ courts time.?
On the subject of prisons, I thought they were full? Where did the 500 spaces magic up from? Was it as simple as earlier early release for some lucky incarcerates?
I haven’t been following any serious TV debates but has the subject been given a fair, post start of riots, airing or does that not fit the governments direction to the media.? I am appalled at the truly sloppy and sensationalist reporting that I have seen on British TV.
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https://youtu.be/l99jLWhMSN0?si=rGmYEFjUXlbziVVg
Some interesting observations about the way the world is going...
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Al those pink & purple placards indicate Socialist Workers party.
Cant get much more far left then that, but the media call them Anti racism supporters.
Two tier reporting / policing / Government. ::)
There was definately something very peculiar occurred last night .
The complete absence of " far right " demonstrators but the en masse appearance on a Wednesday night of the " everybody's welcome ,we love you " brigade stretches credulity .
It's difficult not to occassionaly ponder if dark forces are pulling strings ......
Meanwhile , whilst our eyes are on these events the back door is still open and they are still piling in unnoticed.
Completely agree Don. :y
In fact, it turns you you hit the nail on the head. The threat of hundreds of "far right" protests was a left wing hoax.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/i-think-there-is-a-concerted-attempt-to-pull-the-wool-over-your-eyes-about-what-s-really-going-on-says-patrick-christys/ar-AA1otNUn?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=a403e2b415e4436994d99e727dfc5a5e&ei=11
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Has anyone got any constructive suggestions on how these matters can be resolved? No?
We appear to be in a minority, so console yourselves with the fact that the majority are idiots who can't see what's coming and, when they do, it will be too late for them.
Great Britain ain't so great any more and the United Kingdom is definitely not united. It was ok while it lasted. Will the last one out turn off the lights.
Oh, and, I'm glad I'm old :)
Agree with that apart from I dont believe we are in the minority. We are the quiet majority and far too compliant for our own good.
We just rely on Democracy, whichin reality, barely exists any more.
But is there a solution ? Probably not.
Im glad Im old too. In fact sometimes I think Im not old enough. :(
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Why not go the whole hog and introduce facial recognition cameras on every street corner a la Chinese and add death rays to save prison spaces and the police/ courts time.?
On the subject of prisons, I thought they were full? Where did the 500 spaces magic up from? Was it as simple as earlier early release for some lucky incarcerates?
I haven’t been following any serious TV debates but has the subject been given a fair, post start of riots, airing or does that not fit the governments direction to the media.? I am appalled at the truly sloppy and sensationalist reporting that I have seen on British TV.
Last first, state media does what state media always does.
To the first, I meant swift processing and accountability for crimes such as stabbing three kids for no apparent reason beyond being able to. Or gang raping white girls because a particular sector of society thinks it's ok.
Perhaps you would be happier with banishment :-\
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And by the way, if AI facial recognition is already in your local Tesco or Spar, don't believe it isn't on the streets :-X
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Regardless, smashing everything up and using it as a loose excuse for anarchy serves absolutely no useful purpose.
Civil order needs to be maintained and people who are unable to abide by the law of the land need to be held accountable swiftly and proportionately, regardless of where they are from or how they came to be here.
Being white or otherwise and born here doesn't exempt anyone from those laws.
The thing that pisses me off is that my taxes are expected to pay to support stupid lazy arseholes with nothing better to do than burn down libraries and Greggs.
Bringing back the death penalty and removing ourselves from the ECHR would go along way to incentivising civil obedience.
Have you not noticed the blatant two tier policing? That certain sections of society get to roam the streets mob handed all masked up and carrying weapons without apparent consequence? ::)
There was a man beaten to within an inch of his life in Birmingham on Wednesday night outside of a pub by a gang of masked muslims. There was not a policeman in sight, and it emerged that following 'discussions' with 'community leaders' West Midlands Police thought it was OK to let that community 'self police'. The police commander who made that decision has blood on his/her hands! >:(
They should be applying the law equally, without fear or favour and they're just not. :-X
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Indeed and I feel if these and others such as the Labour councillor spouting out hatred, such as cutting of throats continue with impunity, there will be a regrouping and things will get far worse. We’ve all said this was coming for years, but unfortunately the various governments are far too stupid and failed to understand that people are pissed off. There again they could have some sort of agenda? Being controlled by aliens? ( there are humans who can fit this criteria) there’s just got to be something going on, everyone can see it apart from the ones who have the power at least to try fixing the problems. I agree that all this rioting is bad, but the majority of these people have nothing left to try, continuing to try for the governments attention falls on deaf ears, I’m afraid there are many now who are of the mindset that enough is enough and feel it’s all they have left wrongly or rightly.
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Apparently they are still looking into the Manchester airport incident that took place on the 23rd July.
Strangely the 'powers that be' are dragging their feet here despite the CCTV. ::)
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Its very much double standards.
To me you can riot and smash up London, attack Police and cause major issues whilst waving a Palestine/Israel/Black lives etc flag and its ok, hardly any arrests, slap on the wrist.
Try to defend the UK and its hit back hard
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Indeed and I feel if these and others such as the Labour councillor spouting out hatred, such as cutting of throats continue with impunity, there will be a regrouping and things will get far worse. We’ve all said this was coming for years, but unfortunately the various governments are far too stupid and failed to understand that people are pissed off. There again they could have some sort of agenda? Being controlled by aliens? ( there are humans who can fit this criteria) there’s just got to be something going on, everyone can see it apart from the ones who have the power at least to try fixing the problems. I agree that all this rioting is bad, but the majority of these people have nothing left to try, continuing to try for the governments attention falls on deaf ears, I’m afraid there are many now who are of the mindset that enough is enough and feel it’s all they have left wrongly or rightly.
I got pilloried on here for warning about the WEF. ::)
Starmer is knee-deep in the WEF.
https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=149697.msg2011069#msg2011069 (https://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=149697.msg2011069#msg2011069)
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Two tier policing may well be the crux of the issue, but it's still no excuse for mobs rioting and looting. All it does is play into the hands of those who would cry victim and apparently helps weaponise mob rule against the so called silent majority.
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True. :y
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Two tier policing may well be the crux of the issue, but it's still no excuse for mobs rioting and looting. All it does is play into the hands of those who would cry victim and apparently helps weaponise mob rule against the so called silent majority.
Nobody is making excuses for violence Al, just criticising the two tier policing.
In my opinion, the police have a lot to answer for with their heavy handed tactics. People saw the police run away from the Roma gypsy mob in Leeds, yet when they took to the streets to air their grievances, they were confronted with aggressive baton wielding riot police, dogs and horses.
Maybe if the police took a consistent approach to demonstrators, this might not have flared up quite as badly. ::)
In other news the Starminator is now having people arrested for their comments on Facebook and X. Mind how you go. :-X
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Apparently they are still looking into the Manchester airport incident that took place on the 23rd July.
Strangely the 'powers that be' are dragging their feet here despite the CCTV. ::)
They announced yesterday that a second police officer will face criminal charges.
Meanwhile the two thugs who attacked the police officers are enjoying TwoTierKeir's 'fast track' justice system and are out on bail holding press conferences. ::)
I wonder if we'll ever get to see the CCTV or any footage of what happened in the Starbucks that caused the police to track them down to the car park in the first place? ???
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Was Enoch Powell a prophet or a racist bigot? Depends on your leaning i suppose.
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The Labour councillor who called for people to have their throats cut has been charged with encouragement of violent disorder.
Why not incitement to murder ffs ? >:(
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The Labour councillor who called for people to have their throats cut has been charged with encouragement of violent disorder.
Why not incitement to murder ffs ? >:(
Because he's not a Tory or Reform councillor? ???
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It’s infuriating, It really, is most definitely different police tactics between indigenous good honest British with a scattering of right wing, and all out non intergrating violent machete wielding other types. Imo of course 🤬
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It’s infuriating, It really, is most definitely different police tactics between indigenous good honest British with a scattering of right wing, and all out non intergrating violent machete wielding other types. Imo of course 🤬
That's not entirely fair or accurate. A lot of people around the Commonwealth earned the right to be British during the Second World War and are respectfully established here.
If you mean distant relatives of people from various regions of the northern periphery of the Indian subcontinent sponsored by legitimatish older, established family members then you should say as much.
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Fair reply, but i think most readers are likely to know quite exactly where I’m coming from, and I know what/who I’m referring to👍
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Fair reply, but i think most readers are likely to know quite exactly where I’m coming from, and I know what/who I’m referring to👍
Of course we do, Rae. You're best ignoring Al when he gets on about something ;D
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https://www.youtube.com/live/IBJvE--vqm8?si=PJEq_igEW3t6f5de
Some sage words from someone who might otherwise tick Raes box.
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To be fair he speaks a lot of sense, it’s a shit show at the moment and no amount of hate can ever fix it, don’t make the mistake I think otherwise, I’m old I’ve been around observed a lot, dialogue/ the pen, is mightier than the sword. This prime minister however has no idea how to even instigate a meaningful solution, he’s an idiot.