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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 20 August 2024, 10:44:27
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While the yacht accident seems to have been an "act of God" type weather tragedy, what are the odds of the other fella being knocked down and killed the day before ? :-\
https://www.itv.com/news/2024-08-19/missing-tech-tycoon-mike-lynch-fraud-trial-co-defendant-dies-after-car-crash
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Conspiracy?
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That's the risk of big business upset the wrong people & they can reach out wherever you are.
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That's the risk of big business upset the wrong people & they can reach out wherever you are.
Yep, this fella done us over, let's arrange for a typhoon to sink his yacht.
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That's the risk of big business upset the wrong people & they can reach out wherever you are.
Yep, this fella done us over, let's arrange for a typhoon to sink his yacht.
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I was referring to the guy running in Cambridgeshire Steve, as for the yacht simply wrong place wrong time.
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While the yacht accident seems to have been an "act of God" type weather tragedy, what are the odds of the other fella being knocked down and killed the day before ? :-\
https://www.itv.com/news/2024-08-19/missing-tech-tycoon-mike-lynch-fraud-trial-co-defendant-dies-after-car-crash
I thought the same thing when i read it this morning. Though calling up a tornado as a hit weapon does seem a bit tenuous. :-\
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If he was asleep in bed, then they'll find his body easily enough as the yacht is intact.
If they don't then that waterspout may have been an opportunity too good to pass up.
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If he was asleep in bed, then they'll find his body easily enough as the yacht is intact.
If they don't then that waterspout may have been an opportunity too good to pass up.
Ooo an opportunistic assassin posing as a member of the crew? ???
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I was thinking more of a 'lost at sea' type of conveniently restart your life opportunity ;)
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He'd just spent years and millions of dollars clearing his name, so I think that the assassin theory is more likely. :)
It is strange though.... :-\
There should have been at least one crew member on watch, who should have raised the alarm to batten down the hatches. ???
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I heard that Donald Trump is an alien, sent to destroy mankind so that his comrades, who breathe carbon dioxide, can settle on earth without any fuss. :-\
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I heard that Donald Trump is an alien, sent to destroy mankind so that his comrades, who breathe carbon dioxide, can settle on earth without any fuss. :-\
I always thought talk of little green men was a bit far fetched. Little orange men sounds much more likely! :y
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I did wonder yesterday - aquitted of all charges a few weeks ago, and dead in unusual circumstances now.
Thing is, it was HP he pissed off, and I can't really see them putting out a contract.
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He'd just spent years and millions of dollars clearing his name, so I think that the assassin theory is more likely. :)
It is strange though.... :-\
There should have been at least one crew member on watch, who should have raised the alarm to batten down the hatches. ???
Even if there was, getting hit by a waterspout on a yacht, regardless of how fancy, is akin to a tornado ripping through a caravan. https://youtu.be/j2JUQPHPvis?si=4-IAE_UgjSGBTSoi Took less than 10 seconds to go from upright to sunk.
Besides, at night the hatches should all have been closed anyway and the presence of a storm shouldn't have been a surprise to anyone onboard given the recent weather in the western Med.
https://youtu.be/EM5ESYiRwWo?si=rIUOlwQ1IjFSaufP barely a week ago...
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I heard that Donald Trump is an alien, sent to destroy mankind so that his comrades, who breathe carbon dioxide, can settle on earth without any fuss. :-\
Have you been watching ABC again :D
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He'd just spent years and millions of dollars clearing his name, so I think that the assassin theory is more likely. :)
It is strange though.... :-\
There should have been at least one crew member on watch, who should have raised the alarm to batten down the hatches. ???
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Nothing ever happens at night , all pissed up, complacency.
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Well, it looks like Mr Lynch is no longer missing.
Negligence is going to be the likeliest reason for the yacht being vulnerable enough to sink so quickly...
Lack of lookout in view of local and regional reports of storms coupled with failing to close the companionway hatch from the sunken well at the base of the mast and having the keel in the raised position would have all made the yacht significantly more vulnerable.
Be interesting to see what state it's in if they salvage it.
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I suspect it won't be salvaged. That said, it's not quite deep enough.
I'm struggling to get past the coincidence, though as I said earlier, HP, for all their ill gotten games, are unlikely to do such a thing. Private major investors though....
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If they salvage it, they might find a bleddy great hole in the bottom. :-X
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I suspect it won't be salvaged. That said, it's not quite deep enough.
I'm struggling to get past the coincidence, though as I said earlier, HP, for all their ill gotten games, are unlikely to do such a thing. Private major investors though....
FFS.....go and have a lie down. ;D
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Could have been ..The Meg
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I suspect it won't be salvaged. That said, it's not quite deep enough.
I'm struggling to get past the coincidence, though as I said earlier, HP, for all their ill gotten games, are unlikely to do such a thing. Private major investors though....
HP would have struggled to find a printer that works to print out the instructions. ;D
Hand written notes are too easy to trace.
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That's the risk of big business upset the wrong people & they can reach out wherever you are.
Yep, this fella done us over, let's arrange for a typhoon to sink his yacht.
When I worked in HP for a while years ago, one of the bigwigs told us that yes they set their printer cartridges to fail after so many prints even when it still has plenty of ink, so I wouldn't put it past them to have a waterspout making machine ;D
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The woman who survived along with her one year old baby was sat out on deck at the time, which suggests whatever happened was very sudden and unexpected.
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That's the risk of big business upset the wrong people & they can reach out wherever you are.
Yep, this fella done us over, let's arrange for a typhoon to sink his yacht.
When I worked in HP for a while years ago, one of the bigwigs told us that yes they set their printer cartridges to fail after so many prints even when it still has plenty of ink, so I wouldn't put it past them to have a waterspout making machine ;D
How many times can they use it though? 8)
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Caught the tail end of the news tonight, I think all bodies have now been recovered.
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Three things seem strange to me...
1) I would have thought that a modern yacht like that would have so much buoyancy built in that should the worst happen it would become a semi submersible, rather than drop to the sea bed.
2) The only way I can see a boat like that going down, is that all the hatches were wide open, and it was totally swamped, but see above.
3) Is it feasible that a sudden storm happened, but only affected this boat. Apparently all the other yachts moored in the vicinity were unaffected?
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Three things seem strange to me...
1) I would have thought that a modern yacht like that would have so much buoyancy built in that should the worst happen it would become a semi submersible, rather than drop to the sea bed.
2) The only way I can see a boat like that going down, is that all the hatches were wide open, and it was totally swamped, but see above.
3) Is it feasible that a sudden storm happened, but only affected this boat. Apparently all the other yachts moored in the vicinity were unaffected?
Like something out of the twilight zone, innit? ;D
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Yes :)
Just another thing.... On Wednesday the BBC were reporting that divers were struggling to get inside the wreck and were considering cutting through a 3cm thick window, which suggests that all the hatches and doors were closed.
See point 2. :-X
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Yes :)
Just another thing.... On Wednesday the BBC were reporting that divers were struggling to get inside the wreck and were considering cutting through a 3cm thick window, which suggests that all the hatches and doors were closed.
See point 2. :-X
Unless the position of the yacht on the seabed rendered conventional access impossible. Equally, if the rigging is still attached it could easily be obstructing access. Demasted doesn't necessarily mean detached. ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_(yacht)
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Just seen it on the late news still 1 body to be recovered.
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The 18 year old Daughter is still missing. Probably in a cabin that hasnt been searched yet. :(
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Three things seem strange to me...
1) I would have thought that a modern yacht like that would have so much buoyancy built in that should the worst happen it would become a semi submersible, rather than drop to the sea bed.
2) The only way I can see a boat like that going down, is that all the hatches were wide open, and it was totally swamped, but see above.
3) Is it feasible that a sudden storm happened, but only affected this boat. Apparently all the other yachts moored in the vicinity were unaffected?
It displaced 540 tonnes and had a metal hull. No amount of buoyancy is going to stop that sinking if it fills with water.
It had a 240 odd foot mast. With a mast that size, it's going to depend on a bloody great heavy keel for stability, and the keel was retractable.
A hot evening, a bit of complacency, maybe an intention to take it into the harbour followed by CBA... I know the square root of eff all about boats, but I can imagine how it might have unravelled. :'(
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At €195,000 a week to charter, you'd like to think that the crew would have been reasonably competent.
Certainly the builder has taken it personally...
https://youtu.be/OFOpw5UCn8s?si=Zerc4wdmZ2sPK2S8
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Its the coincidence of the other Autonomy geezer getting mowed down in rural Fenshire on the same day that makes it a conspiracists wet dream.
I worked for HP at the time of the utter mess that 3 CEO's in about 1 year that ended up in the state that HP couldn't pull out of the stupid Autonomy deal, and during the aftermath of having to write down $8.8bn the following year. And how cross the silly tart from Ebay was over it, despite her completing the deal and saying how they had no option to go through with it. That said, she had similar form at Ebay over the Skype takeover.
A lot of investors were mighty pissed at how HP managed to become a cash rich company to one in masses of debt in such a short period, and HP deflected all that to the Autonomy deal.
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Three things seem strange to me...
1) I would have thought that a modern yacht like that would have so much buoyancy built in that should the worst happen it would become a semi submersible, rather than drop to the sea bed.
2) The only way I can see a boat like that going down, is that all the hatches were wide open, and it was totally swamped, but see above.
3) Is it feasible that a sudden storm happened, but only affected this boat. Apparently all the other yachts moored in the vicinity were unaffected?
It displaced 540 tonnes and had a metal hull. No amount of buoyancy is going to stop that sinking if it fills with water.
It had a 240 odd foot mast. With a mast that size, it's going to depend on a bloody great heavy keel for stability, and the keel was retractable.
A hot evening, a bit of complacency, maybe an intention to take it into the harbour followed by CBA... I know the square root of eff all about boats, but I can imagine how it might have unravelled. :'(
Ah didn't realise it is a steel hull. Thought it was a big plastic gin palace type thing with sails. :)
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Ah didn't realise it is a steel hull. Thought it was a big plastic gin palace type thing with sails. :)
All accurate apart from the plastic, I reckon. ;)
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Ah didn't realise it is a steel hull. Thought it was a big plastic gin palace type thing with sails. :)
All accurate apart from the plastic, I reckon. ;)
A l u m I n u m*, but yeah...
https://youtu.be/KbdidVAbxhk?si=9eVgh5Vkj_gn1Sg1
* aka aluminium >:D