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What a shit show that was. :o
"Mr Trump, you're an asshole, Madam VP, isn't he such an asshole!"
Sure, he could have responded better to some of the points but if Kamalala was in any way competent or had a shred of self respect then she would have had an actual debate with actual questions rather than a rerun of her interview a couple of weeks ago.
Whatever that was this morning, it was an affront to the process and to journalism itself.
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Quite disheartening.
One of these will be the leader.
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Whatever you think of The Donald, there's actually only one choice.
And it's not Kamalala.
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Whatever you think of The Donald, there's actually only one choice.
And it's not Kamalala.
We'll see :-X
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I think Trump will have more trouble with Kamala than he did with the senile old fool who is still POTUS.
Biden was/is so far past his prime that winning points against him was like shooting fish in a barrel for Trump.....who is no spring chicken himself.
Kamala is 20 years younger than Trump and also 'a woman of colour' ::) which may be enough for some to vote for her.
Personally I believe the Republicans should look toward a younger man. Although time is very short now.
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I think Trump will have more trouble with Kamala than he did with the senile old fool who is still POTUS.
Biden was/is so far past his prime that winning points against him was like shooting fish in a barrel for Trump.....who is no spring chicken himself.
Kamala is 20 years younger than Trump and also 'a woman of colour' ::) which may be enough for some to vote for her.
Personally I believe the Republicans should also look toward a younger man. Although time is very short now.
Yes. One of the comments I read this morning said a more competent republican candidate would wipe the floor with Harris, she is not a very good orator and her policies are vague. Unfortunately, it's the orange man baby, and he is so polarising that there's a good chance he'll turn moderate republicans against him.
He's a lying, narcissistic idiot and she is an imposter with no experience or charm. That's my opinion, not something I read ;D
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I did watch her interview a couple of weeks ago, this debate and the follow up on Megyn Kelley.
He didn't do as well as he should, and neither did she..
which says alot given the level of bias she received in the debate.
In a genuinely fair debate, ie the same treatment of both candidates, he would have beaten her as squarely as he did Biden.
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I did watch her interview a couple of weeks ago, this debate and the follow up on Megyn Kelley.
He didn't do as well as he should, and neither did she..
which says alot given the level of bias she received in the debate.
In a genuinely fair debate, ie the same treatment of both candidates, he would have beaten her as squarely as he did Biden.
No, he wouldn't, he's an idiot who is easily wound up, and no amount of spin can change that fact.
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I think Trump will have more trouble with Kamala than he did with the senile old fool who is still POTUS.
Biden was/is so far past his prime that winning points against him was like shooting fish in a barrel for Trump.....who is no spring chicken himself.
Kamala is 20 years younger than Trump and also 'a vagina of colour' ::) which may be enough for some to vote for her.
Personally I believe the Republicans should look toward a younger man. Although time is very short now.
Fixed that for you M'lud. :)
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I did watch her interview a couple of weeks ago, this debate and the follow up on Megyn Kelley.
He didn't do as well as he should, and neither did she..
which says alot given the level of bias she received in the debate.
In a genuinely fair debate, ie the same treatment of both candidates, he would have beaten her as squarely as he did Biden.
No, he wouldn't, he's an idiot who is easily wound up, and no amount of spin can change that fact.
That is why Harris hasn't needed to commit herself to anything much yet. All she needs to do is provoke him into another of his somehow increasingly incoherent rants and stand back. Trump made the campaign about personality and being too old for the job, without expecting to browbeat Biden into standing down. Now he's the decrepit old has-been whose only asset is the rabble he raised 12 years ago.
Harris is hardly an imposter as she's held elected offices for years, but she still comes across as a lawyer trying to be a politician. Fortunately for her, her opponent is an idiot who doesn't realise just how bad he is at the job. Any job.
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Not too bad at making money though👍
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I think Trump will have more trouble with Kamala than he did with the senile old fool who is still POTUS.
Biden was/is so far past his prime that winning points against him was like shooting fish in a barrel for Trump.....who is no spring chicken himself.
Kamala is 20 years younger than Trump and also 'a vagina of colour' ::) which may be enough for some to vote for her.
Personally I believe the Republicans should look toward a younger man. Although time is very short now.
Fixed that for you M'lud. :)
In 2024 she can be a black woman with a 'a penis of colour' :)
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Yeah then she can go …. Herself >:D
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I did watch her interview a couple of weeks ago, this debate and the follow up on Megyn Kelley.
He didn't do as well as he should, and neither did she..
which says alot given the level of bias she received in the debate.
In a genuinely fair debate, ie the same treatment of both candidates, he would have beaten her as squarely as he did Biden.
No, he wouldn't, he's an idiot who is easily wound up, and no amount of spin can change that fact.
That is why Harris hasn't needed to commit herself to anything much yet. All she needs to do is provoke him into another of his somehow increasingly incoherent rants and stand back. Trump made the campaign about personality and being too old for the job, without expecting to browbeat Biden into standing down. Now he's the decrepit old has-been whose only asset is the rabble he raised 12 years ago.
Harris is hardly an imposter as she's held elected offices for years, but she still comes across as a lawyer trying to be a politician. Fortunately for her, her opponent is an idiot who doesn't realise just how bad he is at the job. Any job.
That's actually not a good thing...
Like him or loathe him most everyone on the planet knows all there is to know about Trump... Good and bad.
Kamalala on the other hand is practically a ghost. Hardly anyone knows anything about her or her policies* because she has effectively bypassed the whole process. The problem with this is that people won't vote for someone they know nothing about.
And as for Tim Walz, he makes Bernie Sanders look like a conservative Baptist preacher... that no one has ever heard of.
At least with Trump people know what to expect, and regardless of the specific numbers, most Americans feel they were better off with him as President than under Biden/Harris and that alone will probably see him reelected.
*Not entirely sure that she does either as they change as much as her accent.
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I did watch her interview a couple of weeks ago, this debate and the follow up on Megyn Kelley.
He didn't do as well as he should, and neither did she..
which says alot given the level of bias she received in the debate.
In a genuinely fair debate, ie the same treatment of both candidates, he would have beaten her as squarely as he did Biden.
No, he wouldn't, he's an idiot who is easily wound up, and no amount of spin can change that fact.
That is why Harris hasn't needed to commit herself to anything much yet. All she needs to do is provoke him into another of his somehow increasingly incoherent rants and stand back. Trump made the campaign about personality and being too old for the job, without expecting to browbeat Biden into standing down. Now he's the decrepit old has-been whose only asset is the rabble he raised 12 years ago.
Harris is hardly an imposter as she's held elected offices for years, but she still comes across as a lawyer trying to be a politician. Fortunately for her, her opponent is an idiot who doesn't realise just how bad he is at the job. Any job.
That's actually not a good thing...
Like him or loathe him most everyone on the planet knows all there is to know about Trump... Good and bad.
Kamalala on the other hand is practically a ghost. Hardly anyone knows anything about her or her policies* because she has effectively bypassed the whole process. The problem with this is that people won't vote for someone they know nothing about.u
And as for Tim Walz, he makes Bernie Sanders look like a conservative Baptist preacher... that no one has ever heard of.
At least with Trump people know what to expect, and regardless of the specific numbers, most Americans feel they were better off with him as President than under Biden/Harris and that alone will probably see him reelected.
*Not entirely sure that she does either as they change as much as her accent.
But they will vote against someone like Trump. As we all know, most people don't vote for the party/person they find most attractive, they vote for the party/person they dislike the least.
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There's very little to like about Kamalala and many people want a man in charge rather than a woman, including women.
We're talking about a country that elected Trump over a Clinton, and a black man over a conservative woman.
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We'll see :)
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Would it be true to say there is very little to like of Harris and Trump?
STEMO hit it on the head with folk will vote for the least worst.
I believe we in Europe need Harris to win . ( Well those of us that actually see the grave peril we are in from Putin backed by Iran, North Korea and supported by China and India to name but two)
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Would it be true to say there is very little to like of Harris and Trump?
STEMO hit it on the head with folk will vote for the least worst.
I believe we in Europe need Harris to win . ( Well those of us that actually see the grave peril we are in from Putin backed by Iran, North Korea and supported by China and India to name but two)
We've already sold our souls to China. North Korea is largely stable, and I think you'll find it's Russia propping up Iran to keep just enough tension in the Middle East to keep Russian fuel competitive.
The world is in its current state because the current administration has repeatedly proven itself to be weak..You can't blame Trump for that, because he wasn't in the White House when any of the current issues kicked off.
Can he actually stop the war in Ukraine? I don't know, but at least he's prepared to try. Which is more than the current status quo are prepared to do :-X Constant escalation is only going to end one way...
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Ending wars by capitulating is never a good idea.
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Ending wars by capitulating is never a good idea.
Neither is forcing them to a point of mutually assured destruction.
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Ending wars by capitulating is never a good idea.
Neither is forcing them to a point of mutually assured destruction.
Oh well, if you're in the sky when it happens, you'll get a ringside seat :)
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Besides, I'll probably freeze to death anyway, now I've got no winter fuel payment to help me out :'(
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Nah Putin will warm us up nicely 👍
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Nah Putin will warm us up nicely 👍
Your sheep still glow in the dark from Chernobyl >:D makes them easy to find,.or so I am told :D
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Trump has ruled out a second debate with Kamala.
He'd have jumped at the chance of another debate with Biden. Biden (being senile) was the low hanging fruit and easy to beat.
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Besides, I'll probably freeze to death anyway, now I've got no winter fuel payment to help me out :'(
You are not on Starmer's 'like list' ::)
Living in the frozen Tundra that is the north, and voting for Brexit means you are a unsophisticated heathen in the eyes of our new dictator. :)
You need to spent more time in trendy north London wearing a BLM/gay/queer shirt while eating vegan food. :)
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Besides, I'll probably freeze to death anyway, now I've got no winter fuel payment to help me out :'(
You are not on Starmer's 'like list' ::)
Living in the frozen Tundra that is the north, and voting for Brexit means you are a unsophisticated heathen in the eyes of our new dictator. :)
You need to spent more time in trendy north London wearing a BLM/gay/queer shirt while eating vegan food. :)
Yes. All of the ex-miners up here (who voted Brexit and burned effigies of Maggie when she died) have been praying for a labour government for years. Their joy was short lived.
He'll no doubt cut their benefits soon as well.
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Besides, I'll probably freeze to death anyway, now I've got no winter fuel payment to help me out :'(
You are not on Starmer's 'like list' ::)
Living in the frozen Tundra that is the north, and voting for Brexit means you are a unsophisticated heathen in the eyes of our new dictator. :)
You need to spent more time in trendy north London wearing a BLM/gay/queer shirt while eating vegan food. :)
Yes. All of the ex-miners up here (who voted Brexit and burned effigies of Maggie when she died) have been praying for a labour government for years. Their joy was short lived.
He'll no doubt cut their benefits soon as well.
I would have thought that most of the Labour loving ex-miners are pensioners by now, poor pensioners if they didn't find work when t'pit closed. :-\
They've been properly shafted by Sir Starmer and Rachel Thieves! :)
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So when Trump gets in and carries out his cut off aid to Ukraine, presumably we in the West will have to stump up the deficit.
Even getting creative with assets “ held” from Russia, that means more from our pockets………. Vote Harris.
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So when Trump gets in and carries out his cut off aid to Ukraine, presumably we in the West will have to stump up the deficit.
Even getting creative with assets “ held” from Russia, that means more from our pockets………. Vote Harris.
Let's face it, Europe is nothing without the US. We could never afford to support Ukraine without American money. We could never arm Ukraine without American weapons. And I doubt we could defend ourselves against Russia without American support.
Trump knows this.
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True but the EU is trying to raise 45 billion in support
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Nah Putin will warm us up nicely 👍
Your sheep still glow in the dark from Chernobyl >:D makes them easy to find,.or so I am told :D
Yes, a very fortunate side effect now the nights are drawing in… and the darkness……🙁
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What I don't understand, is why our useless clowns of 'leaders' are having a public debate about whether we are going to let Ukraine hit targets in Russia with western weapons. Or not. ::) :-\
Do they even realise what weak pathetic fools they look like? ??? And are! :-X
If you're going to do it, do it FFS, and let the Russians find out the hard way! ::)
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https://youtu.be/Ri6_nT84brQ?feature=shared
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What I don't understand, is why our useless clowns of 'leaders' are having a public debate about whether we are going to let Ukraine hit targets in Russia with western weapons. Or not. ::) :-\
Do they even realise what weak pathetic fools they look like? ??? And are! :-X
If you're going to do it, do it FFS, and let the Russians find out the hard way! ::)
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Got to agree with you entirely, never used to announce an attack in my day suprise was always the best way to get rid of the enemy.
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What I don't understand, is why our useless clowns of 'leaders' are having a public debate about whether we are going to let Ukraine hit targets in Russia with western weapons. Or not. ::) :-\
Do they even realise what weak pathetic fools they look like? ??? And are! :-X
If you're going to do it, do it FFS, and let the Russians find out the hard way! ::)
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Got to agree with you entirely, never used to announce an attack in my day suprise was always the best way to get rid of the enemy.
Maybe it's a bluff and they're just letting Putin think that they are weak incompetent fools? ::)
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What I don't understand, is why our useless clowns of 'leaders' are having a public debate about whether we are going to let Ukraine hit targets in Russia with western weapons. Or not. ::) :-\
Do they even realise what weak pathetic fools they look like? ??? And are! :-X
If you're going to do it, do it FFS, and let the Russians find out the hard way! ::)
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Got to agree with you entirely, never used to announce an attack in my day suprise was always the best way to get rid of the enemy.
Maybe it's a bluff and they're just letting Putin think that they are weak incompetent fools? ::)
They're doing a sterling job 😂
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We get nothing back from pouring cash into Ukraine. And if the only reason we're doing it is because the US is picking up the bulk of the bill and the next President doesn't want to subsidise it, they perhaps we shouldn't be paying either.
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Well if Trump gets in, he might completely blindside everyone and do something completely unexpected. ???
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We get nothing back from pouring cash into Ukraine. And if the only reason we're doing it is because the US is picking up the bulk of the bill and the next President doesn't want to subsidise it, they perhaps we shouldn't be paying either.
Well, other than not having the inconvenience of being forced to learn russian and live in a soviet state by the time he makes it this far across Europe.
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We get nothing back from pouring cash into Ukraine. And if the only reason we're doing it is because the US is picking up the bulk of the bill and the next President doesn't want to subsidise it, they perhaps we shouldn't be paying either.
Well, other than not having the inconvenience of being forced to learn russian and live in a soviet state by the time he makes it this far across Europe.
Fortunately, we and the French have nukes. Just enough of them to make him think twice. Now......all we need to do is get them seaborne.
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We get nothing back from pouring cash into Ukraine. And if the only reason we're doing it is because the US is picking up the bulk of the bill and the next President doesn't want to subsidise it, they perhaps we shouldn't be paying either.
Apart from the obvious not having to learn Russian* , Ukraine will be a cash cow for the EU ( not the UK of course) . How so? Rebuilding contracts. Plus all the Ukrainians that will become part of the mighty EU machine.
* did people not see Russia just walk in and take over the Prize of Crimea? Plenty of other prizes to be had in the Baltic and Eastern Europe. Britain itself would make a nice prize. At least Poland has woken up. Russia is spending 30% of GDP on war. We are lucky if we spend 2%.
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We get nothing back from pouring cash into Ukraine. And if the only reason we're doing it is because the US is picking up the bulk of the bill and the next President doesn't want to subsidise it, they perhaps we shouldn't be paying either.
Apart from the obvious not having to learn Russian* , Ukraine will be a cash cow for the EU ( not the UK of course) . How so? Rebuilding contracts. Plus all the Ukrainians that will become part of the mighty EU machine.
* did people not see Russia just walk in and take over the Prize of Crimea? Plenty of other prizes to be had in the Baltic and Eastern Europe. Britain itself would make a nice prize. At least Poland has woken up. Russia is spending 30% of GDP on war. We are lucky if we spend 2%.
Yes our regime says they will increase defence spending when economic conditions allow. ::)
I wonder if Sir Starmer has picked up the phone to Putin.... " Excuse me Mr Putin Sir.... I wonder if you'd mind holding back for a couple of years, until we can actually afford a war. There's this £22bn black hole you see? You will? Oh that's just splendid! "
Meanwhile poor old Uncle Stemo has to freeze this winter, £11bn gets sent off to foreign countries for climate aid, or directly to their leaders Swiss bank accounts, all of our Astute class attack submarines are alongside for one reason or another and it's much the same with the Type 45 Destroyers, but hell the train drivers are alright! :y
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We get nothing back from pouring cash into Ukraine. And if the only reason we're doing it is because the US is picking up the bulk of the bill and the next President doesn't want to subsidise it, they perhaps we shouldn't be paying either.
Apart from the obvious not having to learn Russian* , Ukraine will be a cash cow for the EU ( not the UK of course) . How so? Rebuilding contracts. Plus all the Ukrainians that will become part of the mighty EU machine.
* did people not see Russia just walk in and take over the Prize of Crimea? Plenty of other prizes to be had in the Baltic and Eastern Europe. Britain itself would make a nice prize. At least Poland has woken up. Russia is spending 30% of GDP on war. We are lucky if we spend 2%.
Yes our regime says they will increase defence spending when economic conditions allow. ::)
I wonder if Sir Starmer has picked up the phone to Putin.... " Excuse me Mr Putin Sir.... I wonder if you'd mind holding back for a couple of years, until we can actually afford a war. There's this £22bn black hole you see? You will? Oh that's just splendid! "
Meanwhile poor old Uncle Stemo has to freeze this winter, £11bn gets sent off to foreign countries for climate aid, or directly to their leaders Swiss bank accounts, all of our Astute class attack submarines are alongside for one reason or another and it's much the same with the Type 45 Destroyers, but hell the train drivers are alright! :y
£57,869 on average, according to Glassdoor. For holding a lever all day. An HGV driver but without responsibility for steering or changing gear. Easy to see why Starmer had to immediately capitulate. They must have been on bread and water. ;)
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Well if Trump gets in, he might completely blindside everyone and do something completely unexpected. ???
Unexpected - maybe.
Idiotic, unworkable and/or ineffective - definitely.
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Well if Trump gets in, he might completely blindside everyone and do something completely unexpected. ???
Unexpected - maybe.
Idiotic, unworkable and/or ineffective - definitely.
So more of what the current incumbent of the White House has delivered? ??? ::)
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Well if Trump gets in, he might completely blindside everyone and do something completely unexpected. ???
Unexpected - maybe.
Idiotic, unworkable and/or ineffective - definitely.
So more of what the current incumbent of the White House has delivered? ??? ::)
Delivered is an interesting choice of word...
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Both of them are unpredictable, and Uk is really not their top priority, I think I’d rather crazy trump who I know full well is not fit for the job over Harris. I think she could really fk things up even more than now🤡 what a situation when you have to choose one of them out of such a large population to choose from it really is a mental situation how the hell have we got to this ?? They are both too stupid to be called fools.
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Seems that there has been another attempt to remove Trumpy from the ballot. :-X
There have been shots fired in the vicinity of the Trump International Golf Course in Florida, where No.45 was enjoying a round of golf. :o
Apparently the Secret Service fired at at man with a AK47 prowling the golf course, he has been arrested and a weapon recovered. :(
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That tells you just how desperate the Dems are.
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Probably just another stunt to gain more sympathy votes. ;D. Just like 'eargate'. ;)
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Probably just another stunt to gain more sympathy votes. ;D. Just like 'eargate'. ;)
I don't even bother replying, Ron.
'Desperate Dems try to kill orange man baby' Even the Daily Star might think that's a bit too unbelievable for a front page splash ;D
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Probably just another stunt to gain more sympathy votes. ;D. Just like 'eargate'. ;)
I don't even bother replying, Ron.
'Desperate Dems try to kill orange man baby' Even the Daily Star might think that's a bit too unbelievable for a front page splash ;D
You just have. ;) ;D
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Probably just another stunt to gain more sympathy votes. ;D. Just like 'eargate'. ;)
I don't even bother replying, Ron.
'Desperate Dems try to kill orange man baby' Even the Daily Star might think that's a bit too unbelievable for a front page splash ;D
You just have. ;) ;D
Only to you, sweetheart :-*
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Get a room you two ;)
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Probably just another stunt to gain more sympathy votes. ;D. Just like 'eargate'. ;)
I don't even bother replying, Ron.
'Desperate Dems try to kill orange man baby' Even the Daily Star might think that's a bit too unbelievable for a front page splash ;D
You just have. ;) ;D
Only to you, sweetheart :-*
Careful, you'll give this old man a heart attack. ;D
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Apparently he's now claiming that God is saving him from these assassination attempts so that he can regain the White House and save America!
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;D ;D ;D
Apparently he's now claiming that God is saving him from these assassination attempts so that he can regain the White House and save America!
Yes that’s true I am👍 ;D
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He's on a mission from God! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz9F_YmD6MU) 8)
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Kamala's brilliant campaign video! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVspeqNnoWM) :y
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Kamala's brilliant campaign video! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVspeqNnoWM) :y
Ultimate diversity hire.....sounds about right.
Exclude all white women and white men....then exclude all black men.
Then pick a cackling crone from whatever remains.
What's the worst that can happen? ::) ::) ::)
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I'm quite surprised by the US TV coverage, or more the lack of it. Even CNN are calling Trump out on many of his more outlandish claims. Harris doesn't seem to be saying much, so there isn't anything for the news networks to quibble over. Reminds me a bit of the UK election where Starmer kept stum because he didn't have to say anything - just let the tories dig themselves ever deeper holes.
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Well that backfired beautifully...
Gavin Newsom bans AI created parody in California either side of an election... (https://youtu.be/S8QiJe181a4?si=Noyv1cj29HdmFNbZ)
;D
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-audience-harris-debate-gutfeld-b2615455.html
Do they think we're stupid? It was watched live by 67 million people. Surely that's an audience of 67,000,000 more than zero. >:(
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-audience-harris-debate-gutfeld-b2615455.html
Do they think we're stupid? It was watched live by 67 million people. Surely that's an audience of 67,000,000 more than zero. >:(
They know Trump supporters are stupid ;D
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-audience-harris-debate-gutfeld-b2615455.html
Do they think we're stupid? It was watched live by 67 million people. Surely that's an audience of 67,000,000 more than zero. >:(
They know Trump supporters are stupid ;D
I'll take stupidity over lunacy and insanity.
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https://youtube.com/shorts/RIT7FUDl_YU?si=obu7RAdZVM3N48QN
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Well that backfired beautifully...
Gavin Newsom bans AI created parody in California either side of an election... (https://youtu.be/S8QiJe181a4?si=Noyv1cj29HdmFNbZ)
;D
He looks like a used car salesman. Untrustworthy. :)