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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 November 2024, 19:42:02
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This one's getting a lot of signatures very quickly! :y
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143
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It can get 10million signatures, Two tier Kier and Big Ange are going nowhere.
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This one's getting a lot of signatures very quickly! :y
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/700143
Signed! :y
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Well it's gone over 100,000 signatures in a few hours. :y
Labour got 9.7 million votes in July so it would be nice if this petition got more signatures than that. :)
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I just signed it and by the time I’d confirmed my email it had gained 20,000 more signatures. It’s absolutely flying. :y
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I wonder if Nigel Farage has signed it?
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I wonder if Vladimir Putin has signed it?
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Vlad probably started it.
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Done, for what it is worth.
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I signed at 10.30pm last night, and in 12 hours it has reached 516,000+ and climbing rapidly.....but as Steve says, it won't make a blind bit of difference :( :( :(
Just while I typed this post, it went up 8,000....awesome ???
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Well no of course TTK isn't going to call a General Election anytime soon however many signatures this petition gets, but it will be amusing watching all those smug Labour MP's squirm on the benches whenever Farage or whoever the current Tory leader brings it up! :)
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Vlad probably started it.
He's more likely to start up an ICBM for us! :o ;D
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It can get 10million signatures, Two tier Kier and Big Ange are going nowhere.
The Labour party will not be going anywhere before 2029, but Starmer could choose to stand down or be forced out.
Trouble is that then the gobby ginger growler gets the reins. :)
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790,000.
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It can get 10million signatures, Two tier Kier and Big Ange are going nowhere.
The Labour party will not be going anywhere before 2029, but Starmer could choose to stand down or be forced out.
Trouble is that then the gobby ginger growler gets the reins. :)
She might be entertaining at least? :-\
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Getting close to the million now.
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Getting close to the million now.
A vote for every pound you have in the bank, Ronny. :)
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Getting close to the million now.
A vote for every pound you have in the bank, Ronny. :)
;D Still can't get close to your vast wealth M'lud. :)
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Getting close to the million now.
A vote for every pound you have in the bank, Ronny. :)
;D Still can't get close to your vast wealth M'lud. :)
Every man, woman and child, including immigrants, in the UK would have to sign it, Ron.
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1.1 million. :)
I imagine that this will be brought up at PMQ's on Wednesday, which will be quite embarrassing for TTK, even though he will just shrug it off and will robotically repeat the mantra .... 14 years blah blah blah.... £22bn black hole blah blah blah.... Worst inheritance since WWII blah blah blah.... ::)
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It can get 10million signatures, Two tier Kier and Big Ange are going nowhere.
The Labour party will not be going anywhere before 2029, but Starmer could choose to stand down or be forced out.
Trouble is that then the gobby ginger growler gets the reins. :)
She might be entertaining at least? :-\
At this point I'm not sure that they would be reelected :-\
That said, at the rate it's climbing, the petition might get more votes than Labour did :D
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I know it will be pointless but Im going to sign it for a larf. :)
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Close to 1.25 million now. ;D
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Close to 1.25 million now. ;D
Well on its way to 1.6 million already... :o
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Close to 1.25 million now. ;D
Well on its way to 1.6 million already... :o
1.61 million now
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I'm sure the Tories wouldn't thank you for that , why do you think they committed suicide at the last election ? they realized the economy was turning into a total sh*t show and would be better to leave the mess to Labour to try , and fail to sort out (and lets not talk about Farage and his bunch of loonies forming a government , be serious ) the Tories will be happy to sit back and watch the upcoming financial disaster engulf Labour and then step in at the next election with the usual promises of lets get Britain going again , cut taxes , stop the boats etc) .
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Perhaps, but it makes the point that 'we the peeples' aren't happy.
It's going to be knocking on the door of 2 million by the end of today.
And you know it's significant when the BBC totally ignores it.
And whether you agree with it or not, half a million signatures in 5 hours isn't something to sneeze at.
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Exactly, and why not show distain? If I’m not happy I’ll make sure I complain about it I’m not for bending over and taking it up … ….
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How about this for a scenario.
Trump enacts his policies. Europe including peripheral UK struggles economically and politically. China isn’t able to send it’s cheap tat.
Along comes some guy, friend of Trump. He declares unity with Trump and something catalyses a general election and Renew get in. The something could be a Vladimir missile strike in NATO Europe. Or a cold snap and pensioners freeze to death. Or food insecurity or collapse of UK car manufacturing .
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How about this for a scenario.
Trump enacts his policies. Europe including peripheral UK struggles economically and politically. China isn’t able to send it’s cheap tat.
Along comes some guy, friend of Trump. He declares unity with Trump and something catalyses a general election and Renew get in. The something could be a Vladimir missile strike in NATO Europe. Or a cold snap and pensioners freeze to death. Or food insecurity or collapse of UK car manufacturing .
You're a cheerful soul this morning El Varche! ;D
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How about this for a scenario.
Trump enacts his policies. Europe including peripheral UK struggles economically and politically. China isn’t able to send it’s cheap tat.
Along comes some guy, friend of Trump. He declares unity with Trump and something catalyses a general election and Renew get in. The something could be a Vladimir missile strike in NATO Europe. Or a cold snap and pensioners freeze to death. Or food insecurity or collapse of UK car manufacturing .
You're a cheerful soul this morning El Varche! ;D
He usually is :D
January can't come soon enough.
Obviously Trump is going to withdraw the US from whatever ecomental nonsense that Sippy Cup signed up to. That's not Trump's fault, but rather a spiteful attempt to make the Biden Presidency stand for something. Same with escalating the war between Ukraine and Russia. It serves no purpose.other than to make Trump's job much harder.
As for the rest, presumably our responsible idiot thinks food comes from the same orchard as the money trees.
And if you don't think that cheap tat from China isn't a problem, ask yourself how it is that they can produce anything for a thousandth of the price anywhere else inspite of shipping it around the world... If you don't have a problem with any of that, then you really need to ask yourself why.
As for this petition, it's just passed 2,000,000 signatures.
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Not too far from 2.4 million now...
That's almost 10 percent of the people who voted
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I'm a bit amused by this.
Think back a few years, how would most people of reacted if such a petition to rerun the Brexit referendum had been started?
Its democracy. "We" voted this shower in, in the same way "we" voted for Brexit. Man up, get over it, move on. Don't throw your toys out like spoilt children because democracy didn't go your way.
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Fair enough, but note that there was no such response to Liz Truss becoming PM...
And more people voted to Leave than voted Labour AND Conservative in the last election.
Brexit was a valid result with over half of the 72% turnout voting to leave.
This current shit show might have technically been Democratically elected in principle, but it was in no way a representative result.
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Fair enough, but note that there was no such response to Liz Truss becoming PM...
And more people voted to Leave than voted Labour AND Conservative in the last election.
Brexit was a valid result with over half of the 72% turnout voting to leave.
This current shit show might have technically been Democratically elected in principle, but it was in no way a representative result.
That's the way democracy works in this country, suck it up. And let's face it, the Tories were a shit show.
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Fair enough, but note that there was no such response to Liz Truss becoming PM...
And more people voted to Leave than voted Labour AND Conservative in the last election.
Brexit was a valid result with over half of the 72% turnout voting to leave.
This current shit show might have technically been Democratically elected in principle, but it was in no way a representative result.
That's the way democracy works in this country, suck it up. And let's face it, the Tories were a shit show.
I didn't vote for them either :D
The petition to reverse Article 50 got 6.1 million signatures and a 3 hour debate, so whilst the net result may not change anything, it is a way of voicing sentiment within the democratic process ;)
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I'm a bit amused by this.
Think back a few years, how would most people of reacted if such a petition to rerun the Brexit referendum had been started?
Its democracy. "We" voted this shower in, in the same way "we" voted for Brexit. Man up, get over it, move on. Don't throw your toys out like spoilt children because democracy didn't go your way.
Well there were loads. Here's a quick selection from 2015-17. I suspect that the same people who are sneering at the current petition were cheering on these kinds of petitions. :)
https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/241584
https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/235138
https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/239706
https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/200004
https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/205169
https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/131215
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That's the way democracy works in this country, suck it up. And let's face it, the Tories were a shit show.
;D ;D
If a government is elected on a set manifesto, then ignores it, that ain't a democracy!!
Besides which, without PR (which we desperately need, IMHO), this horrid lot would never have got such a majority in the HoC.
Those saying we should just "suck it up" should consider what the UK will be like by 2029. It'll be beyond saving. >:( >:(
We need to express out displeasure now!
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That's the way democracy works in this country, suck it up. And let's face it, the Tories were a shit show.
;D ;D
If a government is elected on a set manifesto, then ignores it, that ain't a democracy!!
Besides which, without PR (which we desperately need, IMHO), this horrid lot would never have got such a majority in the HoC.
Those saying we should just "suck it up" should consider what the UK will be like by 2029. It'll be beyond saving. >:( >:(
We need to express out displeasure now!
Every government goes back on its promises, when they face the reality of actual governing. I thought you'd been around long enough to realise that. Maybe not :-\
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Plus, they could argue, in relation to tax, they said they wouldn't raise income tax, NI or VAT for workers. They haven't, although they might as well have.
Bitching gets us nowhere, I thought you may have been around long enough to realise that too. It's up to each of us make the best we can from what's available, moaning is counter productive.
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Except if it's me, I'm allowed to moan cause I'm old.
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Plus, they could argue, in relation to tax, they said they wouldn't raise income tax, NI or VAT for workers. They haven't, although they might as well have.
Bitching gets us nowhere, I thought you may have been around long enough to realise that too. It's up to each of us make the best we can from what's available, moaning is counter productive.
It's getting so scary now, that bitching and moaning aren't enough. >:(
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I'm a bit amused by this.
Think back a few years, how would most people of reacted if such a petition to rerun the Brexit referendum had been started?
Its democracy. "We" voted this shower in, in the same way "we" voted for Brexit. Man up, get over it, move on. Don't throw your toys out like spoilt children because democracy didn't go your way.
I kind of agree............although, Brexit achieved 52 % of the vote. Labour achieved around 30% of the vote. But thats the system we have unfortunately.
I think the reason people are so angry is because of the bare faced lies they told and have shamelessly broken their election promises within weeks of taking power.
Remember them promising to fix the historically high tax burden the Tories had inflicted on us ?
Remember Millibands fully costed scheme to bring down energy bills ?
They met with farmers and promised full support and not to impose any more tax on them etc. etc. etc.
And of course there were petitions, marches, court cases, deliberate paralysis of our Parliament, and anything else you can think of to overturn the Brexit referendum.
They were all fully supported by Starmer, Lammy and most other members of the current Government.
Edit. Have just read the various posts above, mosst of which have covered most of what I just posted. Oh well, thats two minutes I wont get back. :)
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All of that is true, Albs, but we can't change the result of a general election like some banana republic. We're stuck with them, and it's just a case of trying to play them at their own game by undermining their authority.
We are are now considered dinosaurs, and I take a kind of evil delight reminding the Labour voters around here that they deserve everything they get. How do you think ex-miners feel about all the woke shite that 'their' party is enacting? Not good, I can tell you. But they, too, are dinosaurs.
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All of that is true, Albs, but we can't change the result of a general election like some banana republic. We're stuck with them, and it's just a case of trying to play them at their own game by undermining their authority.
We are are now considered dinosaurs, and I take a kind of evil delight reminding the Labour voters around here that they deserve everything they get. How do you think ex-miners feel about all the woke shite that 'their' party is enacting? Not good, I can tell you. But they, too, are dinosaurs.
We ARE a banana republic already. Democracy, like free speech, is dead – or at least on life-support. As for undermining their authority, well good luck with that!
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All of that is true, Albs, but we can't change the result of a general election like some banana republic. We're stuck with them, and it's just a case of trying to play them at their own game by undermining their authority.
We are are now considered dinosaurs, and I take a kind of evil delight reminding the Labour voters around here that they deserve everything they get. How do you think ex-miners feel about all the woke shite that 'their' party is enacting? Not good, I can tell you. But they, too, are dinosaurs.
We ARE a banana republic already. Democracy, like free speech, is dead – or at least on life-support. As for undermining their authority, well good luck with that!
So...what did you just say? What are you proposing? A good moan?
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You can undermine their agenda every day. By buying a diesel car, by refusing to get a smart meter, by ignoring their woke agenda and grouping with like minded people. By not taking them, or yourself, too seriously. Hopefully, this shit will pass. I intend to live the way I've always lived, and I won't let others change that.
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Excellent moaning that man 🥇🥇👍
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Excellent moaning that man 🥇🥇👍
Bet you don't get many pride marches in the valleys, Dai. ;D
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Excellent moaning that man 🥇🥇👍
Bet you don't get many pride marches in the valleys, Dai. ;D
He's the only gay in the village! ;D ;D ;D
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Excellent moaning that man 🥇🥇👍
Bet you don't get many pride marches in the valleys, Dai. ;D
He's the only gay in the village! ;D ;D ;D
He shags rams??? :o
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Excellent moaning that man 🥇🥇👍
Bet you don't get many pride marches in the valleys, Dai. ;D
He's the only gay in the village! ;D ;D ;D
He shags rams??? :o
Given half a chance? :o Who knows.... :-\ ;D
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Excellent moaning that man 🥇🥇👍
Bet you don't get many pride marches in the valleys, Dai. ;D
He's the only gay in the village! ;D ;D ;D
He shags rams??? :o
Easier to get hold of. :)
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Bit of mint and lipstick and they’re all the same to me🤣🐑🐏🐩 oops
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My dislike of Labour leaders is the inability to answer one single question with anything other than "We inherited a 22 billion pound black hole". It's getting really boring now. ::)
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And afaik there has been no detail or explanation at all of this alleged black hole. ::)
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You can undermine their agenda every day. By buying a diesel car, by refusing to get a smart meter, by ignoring their woke agenda and grouping with like minded people. By not taking them, or yourself, too seriously. Hopefully, this shit will pass. I intend to live the way I've always lived, and I won't let others change that.
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I'm with you Steve & I would imagine most people of our age think exactly the same 👍
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And afaik there has been no detail or explanation at all of this alleged black hole. ::)
That's the thing with imaginary money from imaginary money trees...
It's easy for them to blame the Tories, but the reality is we're already still paying for the last Labour government. >:(
Sure with this petition, there will lots of conservative voters sticking a boot in, but I would wager that the majority are people who voted Labour having voted Tory for the first time at the last election...
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If a government is elected on a set manifesto, then ignores it, that ain't a democracy!!
Well it is, isn't it.
Everybody with half a brain cell knew Labour were going to kill business with taxation, yet "we" still voted them in.
If people are stupid enough to believe politicians, they need culling...
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If a government is elected on a set manifesto, then ignores it, that ain't a democracy!!
Well it is, isn't it.
Everybody with half a brain cell knew Labour were going to kill business with taxation, yet "we" still voted them in.
If people are stupid enough to believe politicians, they need culling...
I don't think that people believed TTK when he said that they wouldn't put up taxes, they just stupidly thought that Labour couldn't be much worse than the Tories. Ooops! ::)
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We all thought that Labour couldn’t be worse than what we had but.. out of the frying pan into the fire🔥
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We all thought that Labour couldn’t be worse than what we had but.. out of the frying pan into the fire🔥
Speak for yourself ;)
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Err that’s what I done mate.
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This bunch of idiots are really not what need at this delicate time Imho
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Err that’s what I done mate.
As I said at the time, I wouldn't have voted for them as long a I have a hole in my arse, no illusions of their proficiency from over here ;)
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Parliament will debate it on January 6th...
Interesting choice of date...
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Yes indeed😄. https://hls.harvard.edu/bibliography/the-supreme-court-and-the-risks-of-january-6-2025/