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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 28 February 2025, 18:39:24
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Fu*cking hell.
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Indeed!
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Yes, we certainly saw the real Trump; a bully, a bore, a disrespectful bastard that many Americans knew already, but still voted for him!!! >:( >:(
He thinks his business skills will always win the day, although his diplomatic skills that is a must for any country leader, especially the USA, is zero as we witnessed. This man is a monster and is very dangerous for the democracies of the World. As many Americans in federal jobs are finding out, he only wants Trump “yes” men, and perhaps women, around him. As I have said before, just like Hitler he wants to dictate everything and sod anyone who stands in his way as expected in a democracy. He wants to support Putin rather than the man who has led his country through the hell that only Putin wants to achieve his evil aims. And Trump calls Zelenskyy a dictator!!! >:( >:(
I am fuming, and so I am making this rare outburst. ::) ::) ::) >:( >:(
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It did seem a bit premature to be first in the queue for the spoils before showing any evidence of this peace he's going to negotiate nor any commitment to backing it up.
I admire Zelensky for not just holding his nose and kissing a$$, but not sure where this leaves him (and the rest of us).
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A very beautiful trap.
I wonder just what Putin has agreed with Trump in private?
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It did seem a bit premature to be first in the queue for the spoils before showing any evidence of this peace he's going to negotiate nor any commitment to backing it up.
I admire Zelensky for not just holding his nose and kissing a$$, but not sure where this leaves him (and the rest of us).
Up the creek, and in a very, potentially, dangerous situation. >:( :(
And the European, plus U.K. leaders, think they can get what they need from this American bastard!! ::) ::)
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Assuming that there is a ceasefire, Europe is going to have to police it. Good luck with that. Both sides will be trigger happy for years. Ukraine to get back what they see as theirs and Russia what they see in law as theirs. That is what their constitution says.
So Europe will have tens of thousands of troops there forever. Conscription or national service?
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I think the lights will burn brightly in the corriders of power all across Europe and beyond tonight .
I'm now beyond confinced that putin has trump well and truly under his control.
In trumps first tenure russia was flying high awash with rubles and dollars so the demands were tolerable and largly unnoticed .
russia is in a perilous state economically and not winning the war against a smaller neighbour .
This time putins demands were simple and desperate in that trump had to dance from day one to allow him to defeat Ukraine and frighten NATO into believing that it was all powerful again....or else .
My belief is that what we witnessed was also fully planned to completely embarrass Macron and Starmer( and that oaf lammy ) who basicaly waved a piece of paper in their hand when they got home stating " I have in my hand ........" They should rightly feel utterly humiliated.
Special relationship ? ... that was erased tonight .
I wish I could figure what the people of America feel tonight after watching that utterly unedifying spectacle .
I truly believe that we are more than one step closer to a European war now with an emboldend russia ,probably within 5 years , and possibly armed civil unrest in America .
It's like reading the history of the events leading to WW1 and 2 .
None of us will win from this .
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I think the lights will burn brightly in the corriders of power all across Europe and beyond tonight .
I'm now beyond confinced that putin has trump well and truly under his control.
In trumps first tenure russia was flying high awash with rubles and dollars so the demands were tolerable and largly unnoticed .
russia is in a perilous state economically and not winning the war against a smaller neighbour .
This time putins demands were simple and desperate in that trump had to dance from day one to allow him to defeat Ukraine and frighten NATO into believing that it was all powerful again....or else .
My belief is that what we witnessed was also fully planned to completely embarrass Macron and Starmer( and that oaf lammy ) who basicaly waved a piece of paper in their hand when they got home stating " I have in my hand ........" They should rightly feel utterly humiliated.
Special relationship ? ... that was erased tonight .
I wish I could figure what the people of America feel tonight after watching that utterly unedifying spectacle .
I truly believe that we are more than one step closer to a European war now with an emboldend russia ,probably within 5 years , and possibly armed civil unrest in America .
It's like reading the history of the events leading to WW1 and 2 .
None of us will win from this .
It was very informative to hear the BBC talking to Mr John Bolton, a former advisor to the Trump administration. He couldn’t have been more damming about the “performance” we witnessed by Trump and his side kick, yes man, Vance. He said he was very worried for the future of not only Europe and Ukraine, but the USA itself. He reckoned this really does the future of NATO in doubt, with a tremendous danger to all. >:( >:( :(
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Everyone has got an opinion, everyone is entitled to that opinion. But I honestly don't think any one of us has really got a clue exactly what the 'A bit of how's yer father' is going on. Trump just changes like the flick of a switch, no one can predict what's going to come out of his mouth.
I'll keep my opinions to myself for now, and watch. Apart from the possibly tragic outcome, it really is fascinating stuff.
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The only thing that really makes sense to me is that Putin has something on Trump and is using it to pull his strings like a puppet.
Other than that, Im just confused by what could be going on in his head. :-\
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The only thing that really makes sense to me is that Putin has something on Trump and is using it to pull his strings like a puppet.
Other than that, Im just confused by what could be going on in his head. :-\
You need to worry about what's going on in your head ;D
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He might want to do a deal on my precious metals. ;D
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🤣🤣👍
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For all his posturing, Zelenskyy is grudgingly aiming for a ceasefire as a compromise to appease the suppliers of arms rather than a total end to the stalemate they call a war.
The reality is that he's not prepared to concede anything to anyone. And that's a problem.
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As for our PM I have never before witnessed a such an obvious display of " Arse licking" Starmer has no balls and is totally out of his depth, his invite to Trump from the King for his visit to the UK was embarrassing to watch.
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The reverse of that is why should an invaded country be prepared to concede? ( give away ) their territory to the invader. Surely the starting point is …….. we want all of our land back .
No wonder the Baltic states and Poland are worried. The new world order is the three big super powers can now grab what they want and the rest of us have to toe the line .
If there is a ceasefire Europe is going to be policing that for ever trying to keep Ukraine and Russians apart. That means Britain stumping up maybe 10,000 soldiers “ for ever”. That will make Starmers budget creak……..
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For all his posturing, Zelenskyy is grudgingly aiming for a ceasefire as a compromise to appease the suppliers of arms rather than a total end to the stalemate they call a war.
The reality is that he's not prepared to concede anything to anyone. And that's a problem.
Dont blame him. His Sovereign country has been invaded by an aggressor who had previously guaranteed Ukraines territorial Sovereignty.
The free world should be united in repelling the aggression, which would also bring about the end of Putin.
This war has been a huge mistake for Putin. It hasnt gone to plan by any stretch of the imagination, and its bankrupting Russia in the meantime.
Thats without even getting into how many Russian families have a son / father / husband who isnt coming home.
Putins position is much weaker than it was three years ago, and for the West to not take full advantage of that makes no sense whatsoever..
At the end of the day, its actually about right and wrong.
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The only thing that really makes sense to me is that Putin has something on Trump and is using it to pull his strings like a puppet.
Other than that, Im just confused by what could be going on in his head. :-\
There were rumours going round during Trumpy's first term that he was caught in a honey trap sting in a Moscow hotel room with a hooker, when he was on business there many years ago. Apparently there are pictures of the hooker giving him a golden shower. :o ;D
Obviously there is no substance to these rumours, but you have to wonder if Albs is right and Putin does have something on him. :-\
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For all his posturing, Zelenskyy is grudgingly aiming for a ceasefire as a compromise to appease the suppliers of arms rather than a total end to the stalemate they call a war.
The reality is that he's not prepared to concede anything to anyone. And that's a problem.
Dont blame him. His Sovereign country has been invaded by an aggressor who had previously guaranteed Ukraines territorial Sovereignty.
The free world should be united in repelling the aggression, which would also bring about the end of Putin.
This war has been a huge mistake for Putin. It hasnt gone to plan by any stretch of the imagination, and its bankrupting Russia in the meantime.
Thats without even getting into how many Russian families have a son / father / husband who isnt coming home.
Putins position is much weaker than it was three years ago, and for the West to not take full advantage of that makes no sense whatsoever..
At the end of the day, its actually about right and wrong.
Indeed, and a cease fire without any international backing is simply an opportunity for Putin to re-arm, just as he did after annexing Crimea.
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That's the thing, for it to work, everyone needs to be on the same page otherwise it becomes yet another Middle East.
Regardless of how it started*, both sides need to sit down, behind closed doors if it cuts out the BS, and start having sensible conversations. Nobody came out of yesterday's meeting in a positive light.
Putin may well be the aggressor in this chapter, but the whole of eastern europe has been argued over for millennia.
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I think Zelenskyy will either resign, or shortly be replaced.
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I think Zelenskyy will either resign, or shortly be replaced.
That might not be a bad thing. A bit like Biden but he got the timing wrong or Farage. At the same time Putin and Trump could also resign and be replaced by statesmen ( or women)
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Putin is totally behind the devious machinations here , there is no other explanation.
Trump and that little c***sucker vance have alienated and thrown into confusion NATO , every western democratic country ( except Hungary ) , the EU as a whole, and the UK whilst at the same time humiliating Ukraine and Zelinsky on the world stage and also giving russia a seat at the big table again whilst espoucing the belief that poor russia is the victim in all of this .
All of this because he didn't get his share of the mineral rights and Zelensky didn't wear a suit ?
No , the speed and intensity of all of this is because putin is desperate and needs trump to pony up now .....right now !
There is no diplomacy or etiquatte being displayed here , just brutal coertion .
It's conceivable that at a swipe of a pen trump will sign an exectutive order ceasing supply of all weaponry , ceasing sanctions ,musk switches off starlink and the satellite info closely guarded by America will be unavailable to ALL parties .
I hope that Mr & Mrs middle America are utterly disgusted with what trump has done allowing their long term enemy to control their direction in the world stage .
This will get worse , quickly .
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Just came in and turned the telly on. Sky news popped on, just in time for me to hear Ed Davey saying "Britain leading the world, as we have done so many times in the past". I was overcome with embarrassment, imagining Trump and Putin pissing themselves laughing, and pitying the poor suckers who listen to this shite.
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Just came in and turned the telly on. Sky news popped on, just in time for me to hear Ed Davey saying "Britain leading the world, as we have done so many times in the past". I was overcome with embarrassment, imagining Trump and Putin pissing themselves laughing, and pitying the poor suckers who listen to this shite.
Coalition of the willing, apparently. ::)
Presumably some are more willing than others.
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They cannot call it army of Europe or NATO. Australia and Canada are willing to send boots. I think it is quite a fitting term.
The proof of the pudding will be numbers and just where is all the money going to come from. 0.1 percent increase in the defence budget for the UK is from stopping overseas aid ( 6 billion). I think the other 6 billion by 2030 isn’t funded. None of that covers this army of the willing. National service or conscription? Home guard. How much will a rolling contingent of 10,000 soldiers ( my guesstimate) cost Britain to send and maintain ( forever) on the ceasefire line in Ukraine?
There will be a lot of midnight oil burnt in Europe this week. Trump will be rubbing his hands on the sidelines.
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Ah it'll be fine. Our peacekeepers can work from home! :y
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As for our PM I have never before witnessed a such an obvious display of " Arse licking" Starmer has no balls and is totally out of his depth, his invite to Trump from the King for his visit to the UK was embarrassing to watch.
Sadly since brexit we have to ar*e anybody who we can trade with , no matter how odious they are :(
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Starmer seems to think that stroking and patting everyone is diplomacy.
I must admit that I was taken aback by the way that situation between Zelenskyy, Vance and Trump unfolded.
That said, I don't believe that we should be escalating our involvement in Ukraine, or at least be in such a rush to do so, as that could itself lead to a much deeper conflict.
With NATO focussing on Ukraine rather than its member states, the Baltic States are much more vulnerable without NATO support being available to them even though they are members.
The way I see it one of two things can happen and we need to be very careful about the choice we make.
1. Increase our focus on Ukraine and start another European/World war as Russia takes the Baltic States and into Poland.
2. Draw a line in the Ukraine conflict even if Putin and Zelenskyy end up having to concede something and put it to bed.
The more we escalate the more likely option 1 becomes the only path.
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Starmer didn't bother inviting Latvia, Lithuania or Estonia to his little Euro shindig in London on Sunday, which is strange as they are probably the most vulnerable NATO countries at the moment and British troops are stationed in Estonia. :-\ ::)
I wonder if they would be seen as collateral damage in the event of all out war with Russia? :-X
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Starmer didn't bother inviting Latvia, Lithuania or Estonia to his little Euro shindig in London on Sunday, which is strange as they are probably the most vulnerable NATO countries at the moment and British troops are stationed in Estonia. :-\ ::)
I wonder if they would be seen as collateral damage in the event of all out war with Russia? :-X
Precisely. Their biggest threat at the moment is Europe.
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I think a war is overdue, and might be a good thing if it jolts some of the morons that roam our streets back to reality. We had some silly little girlie complaining in parliament yesterday that we shouldn't take money away from saving the planet from global warming to put it into defence. Can she really not see just how warm Putin could make it if we don't stop him? Can't she?
Can you imagine the horror of all the freaks when they realise that big Ivan is coming? Mental health problems? You ain't seen nothing yet ;D
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Yes we have not fought a war for 30 or 40 years, well according to that dick head Vance
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What an utterly ignorant cretin. >:(
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Yes we have not fought a war for 30 or 40 years, well according to that dick head Vance
Watching the news tonight & the comments Vance made were being discussed, I was quite taken by suprise at Swmbos comment
" The man's an arsehole " she declared 👍
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I haven't seen his comments, but in the interest of balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_Kingdom
The Falklands was 43 years ago, the spat on Lebanon was 41 years ago, and the last war we actively engaged in out side of a UN coalition was the Gulf War in '90/91.
And much as the passage of time is frightening, that was 34 years ago.
Have we been involved in conflicts since, absolutely, but not on our own, and ostensibly always in some sort of suppressive peace keeping role.
Has the US been doing much else, in the grand scheme of things not really, but from their perspective, we left Afghanistan in 2014 whereas they left, albeit in a total shit show, a couple of years ago.
US foreign policy hasn't been this abrasive since George Bush, but it could be argued that this is half the reason that things have got to the point they're at. Everything has only gone to pieces over the last four years :-X
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I haven't seen his comments, but in the interest of balance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_Kingdom
The Falklands was 43 years ago, the spat on Lebanon was 41 years ago, and the last war we actively engaged in out side of a UN coalition was the Gulf War in '90/91.
And much as the passage of time is frightening, that was 34 years ago.
Have we been involved in conflicts since, absolutely, but not on our own, and ostensibly always in some sort of suppressive peace keeping role.
Has the US been doing much else, in the grand scheme of things not really, but from their perspective, we left Afghanistan in 2014 whereas they left, albeit in a total shit show, a couple of years ago.
US foreign policy hasn't been this abrasive since George Bush, but it could be argued that this is half the reason that things have got to the point they're at. Everything has only gone to pieces over the last four years :-X
;D ;D ;D ;D
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The whole situation is only being made worse by the media repeating sound bites rather than doing any actual reporting.
It's almost impossible to know what is actually being said, it's context and what else is happening in the background because all the focus is on a handful of words.
https://youtu.be/yRjSgv7kGm0?si=97Cv9xsCG4aIrvDA
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Something good could come out of this, even if everything settles down in Ukraine, and we get a period of relative stability. Trump has made the UK and Europe realise that they have to pour more money into defence spending.
I, naively perhaps, thought the world might be settling down by the 21st century, and people might realise that it's all a total waste of time and money to fight wars. But, no, it seems to be getting worse.
I blame the internet ;D
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We were pretty much fighting a war a week from the dawn of time until the end of the 1800s. Then technology caught up and escalated so much that everyone needed a nap afterwards*.
* That's tongue very firmly in cheek in case it wasn't clear.
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Yes looks like humans will never learn
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Something good could come out of this, even if everything settles down in Ukraine, and we get a period of relative stability. Trump has made the UK and Europe realise that they have to pour more money into defence spending.
I, naively perhaps, thought the world might be settling down by the 21st century, and people might realise that it's all a total waste of time and money to fight wars. But, no, it seems to be getting worse.
I blame the internet ;D
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Yes really don't understand why folk haven't learnt the lesson, the two main players are simply power mad psychopaths who care for nobody & nothing , a very dangerous time at present.
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That sounds like most people in charge...
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What I don't get is how Trumpy's mineral deal is supposed to stop the war. :-\
Who in their right mind is going to invest significant sums of money in Ukraine or send personnel there without US hard power guaranteeing their security? ???
Meanwhile, no one seems to have bothered to ask what Vladimir Putin's terms for peace might be?
I think that we can fully expect the Russians to take full advantage as the Ukrainians start to run out of kit thanks to Trumpy's arms embargo. Only a couple of nights ago they launched one of the biggest bombardments against Odessa since the start of the war. ::)
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Russia is basically bankrupt. They need to be a part of the global picture. That's their incentive and Putin isn't getting any younger and what better legacy than ensuring the future of his country? Certainly not squabbling over who's entitled to part of something that someone 1500 years ago said their cousin could have.
As to the mineral deal, that's a means to recoup some of the trillion dollar black hole in the US budget. Obviously the investment on infrastructure afterwards will need protecting and that's the link to ending the war and maintaining some sort of civility.
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Russia is basically bankrupt. They need to be a part of the global picture. That's their incentive and Putin isn't getting any younger and what better legacy than ensuring the future of his country? Certainly not squabbling over who's entitled to part of something that someone 1500 years ago said their cousin could have.
As to the mineral deal, that's a means to recoup some of the trillion dollar black hole in the US budget. Obviously the investment on infrastructure afterwards will need protecting and that's the link to ending the war and maintaining some sort of civility.
No it's not. Russia is happily selling oil and gas to China, India and..... Europe! European countries spent more on Russian oil and gas last year than they did on aid to Ukraine! :-X
Anyway, peace will just as likely bankrupt Russia, as a large proportion of it's industry has been turned over to the war effort, which has been sustaining their economy. ::)
That said, the Russian economy is obviously not booming with high inflation and punishing interest rates, but I saw plenty of Russian families on holiday in Vietnam and Thailand when I was there a few weeks ago, so things can't be that bad. There were also lots of young and youngish Russian men there.... for obvious reasons. :-X
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Russia is basically bankrupt. They need to be a part of the global picture. That's their incentive and Putin isn't getting any younger and what better legacy than ensuring the future of his country? Certainly not squabbling over who's entitled to part of something that someone 1500 years ago said their cousin could have.
As to the mineral deal, that's a means to recoup some of the trillion dollar black hole in the US budget. Obviously the investment on infrastructure afterwards will need protecting and that's the link to ending the war and maintaining some sort of civility.
No it's not. Russia is happily selling oil and gas to China, India and..... Europe! European countries spent more on Russian oil and gas last year than they did on aid to Ukraine! :-X
Anyway, peace will just as likely bankrupt Russia, as a large proportion of it's industry has been turned over to the war effort, which has been sustaining their economy. ::)
That said, the Russian economy is obviously not booming with high inflation and punishing interest rates, but I saw plenty of Russian families on holiday in Vietnam and Thailand when I was there a few weeks ago, so things can't be that bad. There were also lots of young and youngish Russian men there.... for obvious reasons. :-X
Inflation 9.9%. Interest rates 21%.
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Russia is basically bankrupt. They need to be a part of the global picture. That's their incentive and Putin isn't getting any younger and what better legacy than ensuring the future of his country? Certainly not squabbling over who's entitled to part of something that someone 1500 years ago said their cousin could have.
As to the mineral deal, that's a means to recoup some of the trillion dollar black hole in the US budget. Obviously the investment on infrastructure afterwards will need protecting and that's the link to ending the war and maintaining some sort of civility.
No it's not. Russia is happily selling oil and gas to China, India and..... Europe! European countries spent more on Russian oil and gas last year than they did on aid to Ukraine! :-X
Anyway, peace will just as likely bankrupt Russia, as a large proportion of it's industry has been turned over to the war effort, which has been sustaining their economy. ::)
That said, the Russian economy is obviously not booming with high inflation and punishing interest rates, but I saw plenty of Russian families on holiday in Vietnam and Thailand when I was there a few weeks ago, so things can't be that bad. There were also lots of young and youngish Russian men there.... for obvious reasons. :-X
Inflation 9.9%. Interest rates 21%.
Do you fancy putting your savings into a Russian bank Comrade Uncle STEMO. ??? :)
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Russia is basically bankrupt. They need to be a part of the global picture. That's their incentive and Putin isn't getting any younger and what better legacy than ensuring the future of his country? Certainly not squabbling over who's entitled to part of something that someone 1500 years ago said their cousin could have.
As to the mineral deal, that's a means to recoup some of the trillion dollar black hole in the US budget. Obviously the investment on infrastructure afterwards will need protecting and that's the link to ending the war and maintaining some sort of civility.
No it's not. Russia is happily selling oil and gas to China, India and..... Europe! European countries spent more on Russian oil and gas last year than they did on aid to Ukraine! :-X
Anyway, peace will just as likely bankrupt Russia, as a large proportion of it's industry has been turned over to the war effort, which has been sustaining their economy. ::)
That said, the Russian economy is obviously not booming with high inflation and punishing interest rates, but I saw plenty of Russian families on holiday in Vietnam and Thailand when I was there a few weeks ago, so things can't be that bad. There were also lots of young and youngish Russian men there.... for obvious reasons. :-X
Inflation 9.9%. Interest rates 21%.
Do you fancy putting your savings into a Russian bank Comrade Uncle STEMO. ??? :)
I think those rates are probably charged for loans, not paid on savings. ;D
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Russia is basically bankrupt. They need to be a part of the global picture. That's their incentive and Putin isn't getting any younger and what better legacy than ensuring the future of his country? Certainly not squabbling over who's entitled to part of something that someone 1500 years ago said their cousin could have.
As to the mineral deal, that's a means to recoup some of the trillion dollar black hole in the US budget. Obviously the investment on infrastructure afterwards will need protecting and that's the link to ending the war and maintaining some sort of civility.
No it's not. Russia is happily selling oil and gas to China, India and..... Europe! European countries spent more on Russian oil and gas last year than they did on aid to Ukraine! :-X
Anyway, peace will just as likely bankrupt Russia, as a large proportion of it's industry has been turned over to the war effort, which has been sustaining their economy. ::)
That said, the Russian economy is obviously not booming with high inflation and punishing interest rates, but I saw plenty of Russian families on holiday in Vietnam and Thailand when I was there a few weeks ago, so things can't be that bad. There were also lots of young and youngish Russian men there.... for obvious reasons. :-X
Inflation 9.9%. Interest rates 21%.
Do you fancy putting your savings into a Russian bank Comrade Uncle STEMO. ??? :)
I think those rates are probably charged for loans, not paid on savings. ;D
https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/deposit-interest-rate
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Russia is basically bankrupt. They need to be a part of the global picture. That's their incentive and Putin isn't getting any younger and what better legacy than ensuring the future of his country? Certainly not squabbling over who's entitled to part of something that someone 1500 years ago said their cousin could have.
As to the mineral deal, that's a means to recoup some of the trillion dollar black hole in the US budget. Obviously the investment on infrastructure afterwards will need protecting and that's the link to ending the war and maintaining some sort of civility.
No it's not. Russia is happily selling oil and gas to China, India and..... Europe! European countries spent more on Russian oil and gas last year than they did on aid to Ukraine! :-X
Anyway, peace will just as likely bankrupt Russia, as a large proportion of it's industry has been turned over to the war effort, which has been sustaining their economy. ::)
That said, the Russian economy is obviously not booming with high inflation and punishing interest rates, but I saw plenty of Russian families on holiday in Vietnam and Thailand when I was there a few weeks ago, so things can't be that bad. There were also lots of young and youngish Russian men there.... for obvious reasons. :-X
Inflation 9.9%. Interest rates 21%.
Do you fancy putting your savings into a Russian bank Comrade Uncle STEMO. ??? :)
I think those rates are probably charged for loans, not paid on savings. ;D
https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/deposit-interest-rate
I am on Sberbank's website as I type :y
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Russia is basically bankrupt. They need to be a part of the global picture. That's their incentive and Putin isn't getting any younger and what better legacy than ensuring the future of his country? Certainly not squabbling over who's entitled to part of something that someone 1500 years ago said their cousin could have.
As to the mineral deal, that's a means to recoup some of the trillion dollar black hole in the US budget. Obviously the investment on infrastructure afterwards will need protecting and that's the link to ending the war and maintaining some sort of civility.
No it's not. Russia is happily selling oil and gas to China, India and..... Europe! European countries spent more on Russian oil and gas last year than they did on aid to Ukraine! :-X
Anyway, peace will just as likely bankrupt Russia, as a large proportion of it's industry has been turned over to the war effort, which has been sustaining their economy. ::)
That said, the Russian economy is obviously not booming with high inflation and punishing interest rates, but I saw plenty of Russian families on holiday in Vietnam and Thailand when I was there a few weeks ago, so things can't be that bad. There were also lots of young and youngish Russian men there.... for obvious reasons. :-X
Inflation 9.9%. Interest rates 21%.
Do you fancy putting your savings into a Russian bank Comrade Uncle STEMO. ??? :)
I think those rates are probably charged for loans, not paid on savings. ;D
https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/deposit-interest-rate
I am on Sberbank's website as I type :y
Don't accept the cookies whatever you do! :D
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Russia is basically bankrupt. They need to be a part of the global picture. That's their incentive and Putin isn't getting any younger and what better legacy than ensuring the future of his country? Certainly not squabbling over who's entitled to part of something that someone 1500 years ago said their cousin could have.
As to the mineral deal, that's a means to recoup some of the trillion dollar black hole in the US budget. Obviously the investment on infrastructure afterwards will need protecting and that's the link to ending the war and maintaining some sort of civility.
No it's not. Russia is happily selling oil and gas to China, India and..... Europe! European countries spent more on Russian oil and gas last year than they did on aid to Ukraine! :-X
Anyway, peace will just as likely bankrupt Russia, as a large proportion of it's industry has been turned over to the war effort, which has been sustaining their economy. ::)
That said, the Russian economy is obviously not booming with high inflation and punishing interest rates, but I saw plenty of Russian families on holiday in Vietnam and Thailand when I was there a few weeks ago, so things can't be that bad. There were also lots of young and youngish Russian men there.... for obvious reasons. :-X
Inflation 9.9%. Interest rates 21%.
Do you fancy putting your savings into a Russian bank Comrade Uncle STEMO. ??? :)
I think those rates are probably charged for loans, not paid on savings. ;D
https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/deposit-interest-rate
I am on Sberbank's website as I type :y
Don't accept the cookies whatever you do! :D
Too late! I had no sooner clicked on 'accept all cookies', than I got a pop up from Barclays saying 'You have paid uncle Ivan £10,000'.
We live and learn :(
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Russia is basically bankrupt. They need to be a part of the global picture. That's their incentive and Putin isn't getting any younger and what better legacy than ensuring the future of his country? Certainly not squabbling over who's entitled to part of something that someone 1500 years ago said their cousin could have.
As to the mineral deal, that's a means to recoup some of the trillion dollar black hole in the US budget. Obviously the investment on infrastructure afterwards will need protecting and that's the link to ending the war and maintaining some sort of civility.
No it's not. Russia is happily selling oil and gas to China, India and..... Europe! European countries spent more on Russian oil and gas last year than they did on aid to Ukraine! :-X
Anyway, peace will just as likely bankrupt Russia, as a large proportion of it's industry has been turned over to the war effort, which has been sustaining their economy. ::)
That said, the Russian economy is obviously not booming with high inflation and punishing interest rates, but I saw plenty of Russian families on holiday in Vietnam and Thailand when I was there a few weeks ago, so things can't be that bad. There were also lots of young and youngish Russian men there.... for obvious reasons. :-X
Inflation 9.9%. Interest rates 21%.
Do you fancy putting your savings into a Russian bank Comrade Uncle STEMO. ??? :)
I think those rates are probably charged for loans, not paid on savings. ;D
https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/deposit-interest-rate
I am on Sberbank's website as I type :y
Don't accept the cookies whatever you do! :D
Too late! I had no sooner clicked on 'accept all cookies', than I got a pop up from Barclays saying 'You have paid uncle Ivan £10,000'.
We live and learn :(
Well relations with Russia might have normalised in 10 years time and you might be able to get your money back. The good news is that if the interest rate stays at around 20% your £10,000 will have grown to about £63,000. :y
Of course, if Lord Opti is correct it will be Mrs STEMO getting a nice windfall. :)
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Ok....update. Sanctions on Canada and Mexico and probably everyone else have been postponed. Trump woke up this morning and decided to sanction Russia.
One problem, they're already sanctioned. ;D
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Just hope the orange idiot has an aneurism as he is doing his Violet Bott impression .
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Just hope the orange idiot has an aneurism as he is doing his Violet Bott impression .
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He seems to be a different shade of orange each day.
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He is a very Mad, Bad and very Sad Orange. In fact a lunatic in the highest office on Earth!! :-X >:( >:(
I hope he meets an orange juicer soon ;)
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I'm finding it impossible to understand the motifs behind his decisions and directives other than the obvious .
As has been pointed out every announcement , action and speech has been to the whole and sole benefit of russia the country who only weeks ago threatend to lauch a hypersonic nuclear missle at America.
I'm stunned at the openly hostile approach to Ukraine and the willingness to allow civilian and military deaths to increase by the withdrawl of all the assistence that they had up to recently given.
It wildly reported that trump holds a grudge like no other person known and I keep coming back to the inciident where Ukraine refused to covertly investigate Biden at trumps behest .
If this has any bearing on his vile and repugnant approach to the way he is seeking to " stop all the killing of young men" then he is a warped and seriously demented individual.
I am deeply saddend that America , the country that I have warmed to all my life , has almost overnight turned into the antithesis of all that I hold high.
I was at best ambivalent towards him '17 -'21 but find him truly loathsome now .
I wonder how the American miltary machine feels at suddenly being ordered to stop assisting the foe of russia and turn to assisting their own foe of 75 years .
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It wasn't that long ago that they were funding the Mujahedeen etc...
Global politics is a roundabout.