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Title: Behold!
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 02 July 2025, 23:03:36
My new steed.  :y

(https://i.postimg.cc/85M7tC0J/20250628-134500.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/DZMxdBRy/20250628-134635.jpg)

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Picked it up on Friday afternoon and drove it to Scotland. On my way home now.  :)

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Another pic of Scotland... Just because.  8)
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Post by: Raeturbo on 02 July 2025, 23:15:13
Do you always drive to Scotland when you buy a new car?😀
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Post by: Viral_Jim on 02 July 2025, 23:25:46
Great choice! Hope it serves you well. Not M-sport spec either, which I would consider a big plus   :y
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Post by: Rangie on 02 July 2025, 23:48:02
That looks very nice 👍
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 03 July 2025, 02:53:33
At least it's German :D

Joking aside, looks very smart 8)
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Post by: STEMO on 03 July 2025, 06:46:25
Very nice, very economical and very quick  :y
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Post by: VXL V6 on 03 July 2025, 08:32:07
Welcome to the club! I have a 530D F10 M Sport. :y
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Post by: TheBoy on 03 July 2025, 08:51:26
Looks tidy :y

And a good run to a pretty part of the world to test it out :y
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Post by: Raeturbo on 03 July 2025, 09:04:06
Yes he may even visit Wales as well😎👍. Good choice BTW, think I sent you an ad on one of those👍
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Post by: YZ250 on 03 July 2025, 09:05:54
Very nice.  :y  The engine/gearbox set-up on these makes them such a pleasure to drive. It’s a fantastic allrounder, fast but surprisingly economical, and the gearbox is equally at home plodding around town as it is when pressing on. It’s still my favourite bmw engine/gearbox combo.  :y
Hope it serves you well.
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Post by: ronnyd on 03 July 2025, 12:31:59
Do you always drive to Scotland when you buy a new car?😀
Nah Rae, that's just outside Weymouth, honest. ;)
Though i'm not a fan of light interiors, that Tig, looks very nice. :y
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 03 July 2025, 16:06:16
Well I'm home now, and I think I've done just over 800 miles* in the last few days and it's telling me it's doing 42.2 mpg.  I filled up just outside Edinburgh and I've got just less than half a tank left. Pretty good for a big heavy motor!  :y

*Haven't worked out how to reset the trip yet.  :D
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Post by: YZ250 on 03 July 2025, 20:14:19

*Haven't worked out how to reset the trip yet.  :D

Has it got the button under the fuel gauge on the dash or BC on the left hand stork. I seem to recall that the F10 had the dash button. Incidentally, if it does have the button to reset the trip, you can press and hold it to show other information. You can also use that button to unlock other menus to show any error codes stored.
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 03 July 2025, 21:20:25

*Haven't worked out how to reset the trip yet.  :D

Has it got the button under the fuel gauge on the dash or BC on the left hand stork. I seem to recall that the F10 had the dash button. Incidentally, if it does have the button to reset the trip, you can press and hold it to show other information. You can also use that button to unlock other menus to show any error codes stored.

I found this one thanks!  :y

It shows the basic vehicle status as well, as found with the rotary knob, apart from the oil level (even when engine running) for some reason.  :-\
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 July 2025, 05:21:50
Ot probably only reads the oil level when cold. Once running/hot the level will be very different.
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Post by: VXL V6 on 04 July 2025, 08:16:10
Oil Level is shown on the Idrive and there is also a dipstick on the N57 engine - red on the N/S of the block at the rear.
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Post by: Viral_Jim on 04 July 2025, 09:28:50
Ot probably only reads the oil level when cold. Once running/hot the level will be very different.

Iirc it only showed on my 335d when certain conditions were met (warm, parked on level ground, something, something else). As VXL V6 mentioned, dipstick is better
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Post by: TheBoy on 04 July 2025, 09:47:55
How's the ride Tig?  I found later 3 and 5 series a bit too hard, and caused some discomfort in my back (which is buggered in 2 places anyway, not helping)

Guessing not causing you any issues after a run back from Scotland?
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Post by: TheBoy on 04 July 2025, 09:52:35
Though i'm not a fan of light interiors, that Tig, looks very nice. :y
If you are prepared to put the effort in to keep a light leather interior clean, they always look really nice IMHO.

That's why I always opt for dark interiors ;D
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 July 2025, 10:04:17
Ot probably only reads the oil level when cold. Once running/hot the level will be very different.

The iDrive only reads the oil level when the engine is running for some reason.  :-\

Maybe it actually reads the oil pressure and calculates the oil level from that?  ???
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 July 2025, 10:09:32
Oil Level is shown on the Idrive and there is also a dipstick on the N57 engine - red on the N/S of the block at the rear.

Oh.. I assumed that the dipstick at the N/S rear is for the gearbox, as it dives towards the rear and the gearbox.  :-\

There's nothing in the manual about that dipstick either.  ::)
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 July 2025, 10:12:39
How's the ride Tig?  I found later 3 and 5 series a bit too hard, and caused some discomfort in my back (which is buggered in 2 places anyway, not helping)

Guessing not causing you any issues after a run back from Scotland?

It's certainly a harder firmer ride than my old Mondeo, but not uncomfortably so.  :y

I think my Mondeo was a taxi in it's former life and had a fat bastid sat in it for hours on end, as the driver's seat is like a favourite saggy old sofa!  ;D
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 July 2025, 10:19:10
Though i'm not a fan of light interiors, that Tig, looks very nice. :y
If you are prepared to put the effort in to keep a light leather interior clean, they always look really nice IMHO.

That's why I always opt for dark interiors ;D

I would have preferred a black interior, but I got to the stage where I just needed a car.  ::)

This one popped up on Autotrader on Thursday night and in the pics looked like it was parked on the drive of a very nice house (It was!), had under 100,000 miles, had FSH, was fairly local and was at a reasonable price. So I got the train to see it on Friday, bought it and carried on to Scotland.  :y

Too be honest when you're sat it it looking out of the windscreen, you don't notice the interior anyway.  :)
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 July 2025, 11:41:38
Forum members will know I'm not the greatest fan of derv cars but I think old Tigger has done well here. :y

Incidentally what is the difference between a 330D and the 335D as they both share the same 3 litre straight six lump?

Good choice. :y


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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 July 2025, 11:43:42
Though i'm not a fan of light interiors, that Tig, looks very nice. :y
If you are prepared to put the effort in to keep a light leather interior clean, they always look really nice IMHO.

That's why I always opt for dark interiors ;D

I would have preferred a black interior, but I got to the stage where I just needed a car.  ::)

This one popped up on Autotrader on Thursday night and in the pics looked like it was parked on the drive of a very nice house (It was!), had under 100,000 miles, had FSH, was fairly local and was at a reasonable price. So I got the train to see it on Friday, bought it and carried on to Scotland.  :y

Too be honest when you're sat it it looking out of the windscreen, you don't notice the interior anyway.  :)

SFA for a derv lump. :y

What year is she?
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 July 2025, 11:45:58
Forum members will know I'm not the greatest fan of derv cars but I think old Tigger has done well here. :y

Incidentally what is the difference between a 330D and the 335D as they both share the same 3 litre straight six lump?

Good choice. :y

Sorry.....I should have said. 530D and 535D.

My bad. :-[
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Post by: Mr Skrunts on 04 July 2025, 12:52:36
530D and 535D. difference.

The price?
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 July 2025, 13:26:34
530D and 535D. difference.

The price?

That could explain why Tigger went for the 530D.

Tight as a ducks arse... :D
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 July 2025, 13:52:23
530D and 535D. difference.

The price?

That could explain why Tigger went for the 530D.

Tight as a ducks arse... :D

Yup.  :)

The difference between the 530d and 535d is about 50bhp I believe.  :-\
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Post by: YZ250 on 04 July 2025, 13:53:40
Forum members will know I'm not the greatest fan of derv cars but I think old Tigger has done well here. :y

Incidentally what is the difference between a 330D and the 335D as they both share the same 3 litre straight six lump?

Good choice. :y


The 535d is a twin turbo (one small turbo and one large), whereas the 530d is a variable geometry single turbo.  :y

Incidentally, at one stage the 525d, the 530d, the 540d, and the 550d all used the 3.0d block. The 525d was a down tuned 3.0d.  :y
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 July 2025, 15:18:47
Forum members will know I'm not the greatest fan of derv cars but I think old Tigger has done well here. :y

Incidentally what is the difference between a 330D and the 335D as they both share the same 3 litre straight six lump?

Good choice. :y


The 535d is a twin turbo (one small turbo and one large), whereas the 530d is a variable geometry single turbo.  :y

Incidentally, at one stage the 525d, the 530d, the 540d, and the 550d all used the 3.0d block. The 525d was a down tuned 3.0d.  :y

Probably performance overkill at Tigger's age. :)
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Post by: Viral_Jim on 04 July 2025, 15:23:31
. The 525d was a down tuned 3.0d.  :y

This is what I should have bought instead of the Chrysler. They're invariably in a nice old man spec with lots of toys and comfy seats and yet a remap alone will add 100hp and 170nm  :D

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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 July 2025, 15:52:49
. The 525d was a down tuned 3.0d.  :y

This is what I should have bought instead of the Chrysler. They're invariably in a nice old man spec with lots of toys and comfy seats and yet a remap alone will add 100hp and 170nm  :D


Was that the Crossfire, Jimmy?

The one that looks like a dog taking a dump when viewed in side profile. :)
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 July 2025, 17:54:28
Forum members will know I'm not the greatest fan of derv cars but I think old Tigger has done well here. :y

Incidentally what is the difference between a 330D and the 335D as they both share the same 3 litre straight six lump?

Good choice. :y


The 535d is a twin turbo (one small turbo and one large), whereas the 530d is a variable geometry single turbo.  :y

Incidentally, at one stage the 525d, the 530d, the 540d, and the 550d all used the 3.0d block. The 525d was a down tuned 3.0d.  :y

Probably performance overkill at Tigger's age. :)

Yes it will be a few years before I'm mature enough to handle the kind of cars you enjoy M'lud.  :)
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Post by: Viral_Jim on 04 July 2025, 20:23:25

Was that the Crossfire, Jimmy?

The one that looks like a dog taking a dump when viewed in side profile. :)

No, 300c diesel. Made you look like a seedy Atlantic City nightclub owner, but it was hella comfortable!  8)
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Post by: Raeturbo on 04 July 2025, 20:50:59
Forum members will know I'm not the greatest fan of derv cars but I think old Tigger has done well here. :y

Incidentally what is the difference between a 330D and the 335D as they both share the same 3 litre straight six lump?

Good choice. :y


       


The 535d is a twin turbo (one small turbo and one large), whereas the 530d is a variable geometry single turbo.  :y

Incidentally, at one stage the 525d, the 530d, the 540d, and the 550d all used the 3.0d block. The 525d was a down tuned 3.0d.  :y

       
And mightily expensive to refurb both including bypass actuator. I’ve done a couple 😵‍💫.  Stick with the single unless you’re  well off🤣
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Post by: Viral_Jim on 05 July 2025, 20:36:48
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And mightily expensive to refurb both including bypass actuator. I’ve done a couple 😵‍💫.  Stick with the single unless you’re  well off🤣

I'd argue that.300bhp and 450ft lbs is probably enough for a big diesel cruiser, so for my money I'd take a remapped 525/530d over the 535.

That said I had the same lump in my 335d and I couldn't help wondering what a remap might have done for that...  >:D
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Post by: YZ250 on 05 July 2025, 23:05:53
I'd argue that.300bhp and 450ft lbs is probably enough for a big diesel cruiser, so for my money I'd take a remapped 525/530d over the 535.

That said I had the same lump in my 335d and I couldn't help wondering what a remap might have done for that...  >:D

On the 530d, Hartge tuning use to replace the intercooler with a larger one and remove the electronic limiter when doing a remap. This would increase the top speed to an alleged 170’ish mph. This puts it in line with the D5 Alpina (535d) which has a 170mph+ top speed.  :y
I’ve had enough of these to know just how quick they can reach the 155mph limiter. They pull like a train to around 125mph, then have a very slight lag for a few mph and then pull like a train again to the speed limiter.   :y
It’s a lovely engine/gearbox combo, and is plenty powerful enough without any mods.  :y  If I ever become interested in speed again, this is the engine I’d go for.  ::)  ;)
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Post by: TheBoy on 06 July 2025, 13:54:49
They pull like a train to around 125mph, then have a very slight lag for a few mph and then pull like a train again to the speed limiter.   :y
Allegedly. So you heard down the pub. Or a mate told you.

An upstanding member of the community like you wouldn't know such things first hand.
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Post by: VXL V6 on 06 July 2025, 21:45:11
They pull like a train to around 125mph, then have a very slight lag for a few mph and then pull like a train again to the speed limiter.   :y
Allegedly. So you heard down the pub. Or a mate told you.

An upstanding member of the community like you wouldn't know such things first hand.

It's a brilliant combination the N57 with a ZF 8 Speed in the 530D. Absolutely love driving mine, its a bit too effortless sometimes! Things to watch out for and fix on F10 / F11's are headlights, timing chains (realistically full uprated genuine BMW timing chain kit, all the bearings and oil pump is the way to go but expensive), don't skimp on discs and pads either.... worn front tension arms give wheel vibration issues that feel just like warped discs. It sounds like expensive stuff but its par the course on a big barge with a big diesel engine in it.
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Post by: VXL V6 on 06 July 2025, 21:51:05
Should add that I had the full chain kit, bearings, pump etc on mine at 137K for peace of mind, no chain rattle and when the camcover was removed the internals were spotless (I change the oil every 5K and use genuine filter and Liqui Moly specific oil) and the chain showed little signs of stretching.   You hear of cars with half the mileage rattling like a skeleton in a biscuit tin, but infrequent oil changes and driving them like you stole them from cold are probably the cause in my opinion.
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Post by: YZ250 on 06 July 2025, 22:11:12
They pull like a train to around 125mph, then have a very slight lag for a few mph and then pull like a train again to the speed limiter.   :y
Allegedly. So you heard down the pub. Or a mate told you.

An upstanding member of the community like you wouldn't know such things first hand.

I was based in Munich at the time on project work, honestly officer.  :) 
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 July 2025, 17:49:23
Hmmm.... I may have bought alot of expense and aggro with this BMW.....  :-\

It's a bit smoky when driven hard and sometimes there's a puff of smoke when started from dead cold in the morning.

The fella I bought it from told me that it had been smoky and the EGR had been deleted and it had been 'chipped' and that had sorted it. There was no evidence of smoke when I went to see it and test drove it.  ::)

Today I took it to the local BMW specialists for them to check it out and they think that as well as the EGR delete, the DPF has been tampered with/gutted/or partially gutted as they found the exhaust back pressure was showing negative values (-4 mbar) when positive values are expected.

They said that its best to live with it as it is, but it may or may not pass an MOT and if it fails, it will mean a new DPF, possibly a new EGR and coded back to stock. Ouch!  ::) 

I've checked the emissions test printout from the last two MOTs and they have very different readings , but I don't know when the EGR was deleted and possibly the DPF tampered with.  :-\  On the upside I guess I don't have to worry about the DPF clogging up. Every silver lining!  :D

Thoughts please?  :)

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Post by: STEMO on 31 July 2025, 18:02:06
Hmmm.... I may have bought alot of expense and aggro with this BMW.....  :-\

It's a bit smoky when driven hard and sometimes there's a puff of smoke when started from dead cold in the morning.

The fella I bought it from told me that it had been smoky and the EGR had been deleted and it had been 'chipped' and that had sorted it. There was no evidence of smoke when I went to see it and test drove it.  ::)

Today I took it to the local BMW specialists for them to check it out and they think that as well as the EGR delete, the DPF has been tampered with/gutted/or partially gutted as they found the exhaust back pressure was showing negative values (-4 mbar) when positive values are expected.

They said that its best to live with it as it is, but it may or may not pass an MOT and if it fails, it will mean a new DPF, possibly a new EGR and coded back to stock. Ouch!  ::) 

I've checked the emissions test printout from the last two MOTs and they have very different readings , but I don't know when the EGR was deleted and possibly the DPF tampered with.  :-\  On the upside I guess I don't have to worry about the DPF clogging up. Every silver lining!  :D

Thoughts please?  :)
Should have bought a nice, uncomplicated Vauxhall  :)

But, since you didn't, what more can you do other than to hope it passes its MOT. When is it due?
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 31 July 2025, 18:03:26
New fuel and air filters should improve matters.

If it's been badly tuned, then the excess fuel comes out as coal.
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 July 2025, 18:10:34
New fuel and air filters should improve matters.

If it's been badly tuned, then the excess fuel comes out as coal.

Yes, although it has had regular oil changes the air filter was last changed at about 53,000 miles and the fuel filter last changed at about 42,000 miles! It was on about 93,500 when I bought last month. ::)  Didn't spot that until after I bought it tho, just noted the regular oil changes. Doh!  ::)

Both replaced now, although I pulled out the air filter at my mates in Scotland and blew it out with his compressor and it was minging!  ::)
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Post by: Raeturbo on 31 July 2025, 18:11:07
Give me a ring when you’re here next Steve👍
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 July 2025, 18:12:47

Should have bought a nice, uncomplicated Vauxhall  :)

But, since you didn't, what more can you do other than to hope it passes its MOT. When is it due?

Like a Vauxhall Omega?  ;D
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 July 2025, 18:18:51

Should have bought a nice, uncomplicated Vauxhall  :)

But, since you didn't, what more can you do other than to hope it passes its MOT. When is it due?

Not till next March, so not sweating on it just yet.  ::)
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 July 2025, 18:19:15
Give me a ring when you’re here next Steve👍

Thanks Rae.  :y
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Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 31 July 2025, 18:55:13

Should have bought a nice, uncomplicated Vauxhall  :)

But, since you didn't, what more can you do other than to hope it passes its MOT. When is it due?

Not till next March, so not sweating on it just yet.  ::)

As the Americans say....."Life turns on a dime" :y

By March you may have won the Euro lottery and have big-titted wenches throwing themselves at you for a chance to sit in the passenger seat of your latest £2M Ferrari or Lambo.

But if this doesn't come to pass I hope  the mighty derv can be sorted relatively inexpensively. :y
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: YZ250 on 31 July 2025, 19:21:59
............
Today I took it to the local BMW specialists for them to check it out and they think that as well as the EGR delete, the DPF has been tampered with/gutted/or partially gutted ...........
They said that its best to live with it as it is, but it may or may not pass an MOT and if it fails, it will mean a new DPF, possibly a new EGR and coded back to stock. Ouch!  ::) 

Thoughts please?  :)

My son's pick up truck was remapped, had a gutted dpf and egr delete and it went through MOTs fine after it was done.  I know what was done to it because we did it. Things may have changed since then as it was smoke test back then but he had no issues.

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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 July 2025, 19:47:10
My son's pick up truck was remapped, had a gutted dpf and egr delete and it went through MOTs fine after it was done.  I know what was done to it because we did it. Things may have changed since then as it was smoke test back then but he had no issues.

OK that's interesting. Thanks.  :y
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 31 July 2025, 20:00:43

Should have bought a nice, uncomplicated Vauxhall  :)

But, since you didn't, what more can you do other than to hope it passes its MOT. When is it due?

Not till next March, so not sweating on it just yet.  ::)

As the Americans say....."Life turns on a dime" :y

By March you may have won the Euro lottery and have big-titted wenches throwing themselves at you for a chance to sit in the passenger seat of your latest £2M Ferrari or Lambo.

But if this doesn't come to pass I hope  the mighty derv can be sorted relatively inexpensively. :y

Big titted wenchies are always good whatever car you drive M'Lud!  :y

Even a Morris Marina!  :D
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Viral_Jim on 01 August 2025, 10:19:26
Although I never did it to the 335d, I was part of a very good forum (babybmw) back then and I knew several users who had done what you describe and had had no issues getting an MOT (same engine as yours, just in the 3 series platform).

The only place you may fall foul is if the MOT man can see the dpf has been tampered with from a visual inspection. I can't decide from you previous post if the specialist could actually see the dpf had been messed with, or if he deduced it from the readings. If it's visually noticable, one of those aftermarket theft guards might be your cheapest solution to hiding that fact.

If it does fail on emissions/smoke a good remap would sort that out, but honestly I wouldn't sweat the mot just because it's had dpf/egr delete and a remap.  :y
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Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 01 August 2025, 10:37:40
Although I never did it to the 335d, I was part of a very good forum (babybmw) back then and I knew several users who had done what you describe and had had no issues getting an MOT (same engine as yours, just in the 3 series platform).

The only place you may fall foul is if the MOT man can see the dpf has been tampered with from a visual inspection. I can't decide from you previous post if the specialist could actually see the dpf had been messed with, or if he deduced it from the readings. If it's visually noticable, one of those aftermarket theft guards might be your cheapest solution to hiding that fact.

If it does fail on emissions/smoke a good remap would sort that out, but honestly I wouldn't sweat the mot just because it's had dpf/egr delete and a remap.  :y

They didn't say anything about visual evidence that the DPF has been tampered with and think it was from the exhaust back pressure readings.

I think yesterday I was panicking at the prospect of having to spend lots of cash!  :D  So hopefully it will be OK.  :)

Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 August 2025, 07:30:22
It looks like the MOT will be changing to do a particulate measurement to catch cars with gutted DPFs (I suspect 2026 so you have some time)
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Viral_Jim on 04 August 2025, 10:36:19
Well that's going to disappoint a good number of people. Still, noting like a bit of economic stimulus from all those new DPFs  ::)
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Post by: STEMO on 04 August 2025, 12:03:30
Well that's going to disappoint a good number of people. Still, noting like a bit of economic stimulus from all those new DPFs  ::)
Most of the cars who've had the DPF removed will be cracking on in age, I think a lot of them will be scrapped. Which is probably a big part of the plan.
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 August 2025, 13:14:03
It looks like the MOT will be changing to do a particulate measurement to catch cars with gutted DPFs (I suspect 2026 so you have some time)
Not sure how that will work...

Surely a well maintained non DPF car won't produce any more soot that a dpf equipped one. :-\
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: YZ250 on 04 August 2025, 13:34:56
Well that's going to disappoint a good number of people. ………

In our case the dpf was suffocating the exhaust system so we tried forced regens but to no avail. It triggered the dash light and it was holding back on power. Luckily for us the dpf had a fitting flange on either side of it so we just unbolted it, smashed out the honeycomb inside with a long screwdriver , thoroughly cleaned it inside and put it back on. It had already had a remap and we’d blanked off the egr.
After it was taken for a test drive my lad returned and said “That’s cured it, it goes like a scolded cat now”.  ;D :y  He never had any issues after that.
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Viral_Jim on 04 August 2025, 14:36:27
Surely a well maintained non DPF car won't produce any more soot that a dpf equipped one. :-\

It must do surely? If the manufacturers could meet the particulate emission requirements without going to the expense of developing and fitting dpf units to cars they would have done so... :-\

After it was taken for a test drive my lad returned and said “That’s cured it, it goes like a scolded cat now”.  ;D :y  He never had any issues after that.

I understand many dpf cars perform better without it fitted, but presumably chuck more soot  ;D
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Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 August 2025, 14:55:06
Soot is the particulate. It's what makes smoke, er smoke.

It stands to reason that a DPF catches soot. But a clean burning diesel won't produce a notable amount of soot.

Put it another way, there's as much chance of a DPF equipped car producing a similar amount, ie negligible, of soot as a well maintained non DPF vehicle.

Unless they're trying to force old cars off the road regardless of what's coming out of the exhaust. A poorly maintained DPF car is more likely to fail the current visible smoke test than a well maintained non DPF one.
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: STEMO on 04 August 2025, 15:59:30
https://www.endsreport.com/article/1810762/updated-mots-include-air-pollution-testing-improvements
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 August 2025, 16:10:37
It looks like the MOT will be changing to do a particulate measurement to catch cars with gutted DPFs (I suspect 2026 so you have some time)
Not sure how that will work...

Surely a well maintained non DPF car won't produce any more soot that a dpf equipped one. :-\

A well maintained non DPF car will output a hell of a lot more particulates, even the cleanest burning ones still send out soot. (DPF drops the particulates by about 80%)

The same is very much true of NOx and there are those who disable the AdBlue and EGR systems as well (or in the case of VAG, on purpose so they didn't have to fit the emissions systems and saved themselves cash)

It is already checked as part of the TUF in Germany so the measuring tech is widely available
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 August 2025, 16:23:54
It looks like the MOT will be changing to do a particulate measurement to catch cars with gutted DPFs (I suspect 2026 so you have some time)
Not sure how that will work...

Surely a well maintained non DPF car won't produce any more soot that a dpf equipped one. :-\

If that were true why would they be fitted in the first place?
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 August 2025, 17:46:45
It looks like the MOT will be changing to do a particulate measurement to catch cars with gutted DPFs (I suspect 2026 so you have some time)
Not sure how that will work...

Surely a well maintained non DPF car won't produce any more soot that a dpf equipped one. :-\

If that were true why would they be fitted in the first place?
That's fair.

Presumably the proposed measurement standard can't be applied retrospectively? What's to say that a Euro 4/5/6 compliant vehicle meets the proposed measurement even though they have been approved to a set standard...

In other words, is this proposed nonsense simply being reported as news to scare people when in fact it only applies to new cars :-\
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Viral_Jim on 04 August 2025, 18:16:59
I would guess it will apply the emissions standard (which is known by the reg plate)that the car supposedly met when new, with perhaps a margin of error built in.
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: STEMO on 04 August 2025, 18:54:36
It looks like the MOT will be changing to do a particulate measurement to catch cars with gutted DPFs (I suspect 2026 so you have some time)
Not sure how that will work...

Surely a well maintained non DPF car won't produce any more soot that a dpf equipped one. :-\

If that were true why would they be fitted in the first place?
That's fair.

Presumably the proposed measurement standard can't be applied retrospectively? What's to say that a Euro 4/5/6 compliant vehicle meets the proposed measurement even though they have been approved to a set standard...

In other words, is this proposed nonsense simply being reported as news to scare people when in fact it only applies to new cars :-\
They will find a way to get rid of diesels
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Raeturbo on 04 August 2025, 19:10:14
And petrol cars… then people⛓️⛓️⛓️⛓️
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 04 August 2025, 19:11:53
Without people, the robots will have nothing to do.
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 August 2025, 21:40:18
Without people, the robots will have nothing to kill.  :o

Fixed.  :D
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 August 2025, 21:46:40

After it was taken for a test drive my lad returned and said “That’s cured it, it goes like a scolded cat now”.  ;D :y  He never had any issues after that.

I understand many dpf cars perform better without it fitted, but presumably chuck more soot  ;D

You understand correctly.  :y

Mine goes like shit off a shovel, especially in Sport and Sport + modes. It's like having 3 different cars in one.  :)

I do leave a plume of smoke behind me when I boot it and it kicks down a gear though.  :-\
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: YZ250 on 05 August 2025, 09:52:23

The same is very much true of NOx and there are those who disable the AdBlue .........

Whilst not condoning it, I can certainly fully understand why people map out Adblue. The Adblue DTC error code doesn't distinguish between a failed Adblue tank pump and the inline heater, so garages replace both. Depending on the vehicle, the cost of replacement, plus labour, can be anything from £1200 to £2000, with the bulk of that being parts costs.
Mapping it out can be done for around £350 and if the person is willing to pay around £50 more, they can add a few ponies as well. They don't have to worry about Adblue fault costs ever again and their car feels more lively.  :y
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: countrywoman on 05 August 2025, 14:16:33
Getting the EGR mapped out on the Yeti next Tues, it will gain some ponies as well he said, £250.
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: TheBoy on 06 August 2025, 11:26:34
Mine goes like shit off a shovel, especially in Sport and Sport + modes. It's like having 3 different cars in one.  :)
I'm guessing all things are relative.  330d has never struck me as what I'll call quick, though generally quick enough :y
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 August 2025, 13:37:16
It has decent mid range and top end. Low down it's all straight 6 torque. The 8 speed box helps make it feel more refined.
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 August 2025, 13:46:02
Mine goes like shit off a shovel, especially in Sport and Sport + modes. It's like having 3 different cars in one.  :)
I'm guessing all things are relative.  330d has never struck me as what I'll call quick, though generally quick enough :y

As you say, its relative.  I've gone from a clapped out 178bhp Ford Mundano to a BMW 530d with an estimated 300bhp that goes like the clappers!  :)
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 August 2025, 14:23:22
Mine goes like shit off a shovel, especially in Sport and Sport + modes. It's like having 3 different cars in one.  :)
I'm guessing all things are relative.  330d has never struck me as what I'll call quick, though generally quick enough :y

As you say, its relative.  I've gone from a clapped out 178bhp Ford Mundano to a BMW 530d with an estimated 300bhp that goes like the clappers!  :)

Sadly you will soon get used to it, I am currently on 300bhp with 650Nm and it feels average now, the next one is 460bhp and 660Nm and I am sure that will feel normal after 6 months  ;D
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: TheBoy on 06 August 2025, 15:31:56
Sadly you will soon get used to it, I am currently on 300bhp with 650Nm and it feels average now, the next one is 460bhp and 660Nm and I am sure that will feel normal after 6 months  ;D
First time I rode a 1000cc bike I nearly shat myself.  Then before I melted mine, I was riding it everywhere on the throttle end stop ;D
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Raeturbo on 06 August 2025, 19:35:37
Mm… My Evo has gone through a few upgrades and is now 400/400 at 1100kg front and rear LSD. I thought it was ungodly powerful and luckily I still think the same,  but I don’t have so much fear of God when I open up. This will probably be all it’s going to get though as I’m getting older and it seems to be more ferocious (to me) and doesn’t allow so much time for mistakes, loving it though at the moment. 70 soon so maybe I will have to have a think if I want to survive ☹️😢. Moto cross resulted in a leg full of metal but to be honest even my CR 500, only scared me as much as this car can when pushed.
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Raeturbo on 06 August 2025, 19:37:45
Steve, as I said give me a ring when you’re down I will have a chat to you about how we’re going to sort any mot problems that may arise👍😉
Title: Re: Behold!
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 06 August 2025, 23:08:48
Steve, as I said give me a ring when you’re down I will have a chat to you about how we’re going to sort any mot problems that may arise👍😉

Will do Rae. Thanks!  :y