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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Sir Tigger KC on 27 September 2025, 22:54:10
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So we've touched on this in other threads, but I decided it deserved a thread all to itself! :)
Apparently/allegedly the company that has been selected to run Labour's digital ID app is called Multiverse, whose CEO is a fella called Euan Blair, whose Dad happens to be the war criminal former PM Tony Blair, whose think tank the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change has been advising governments all round the world on Digital ID systems. :-X
Follow the money as they say.... ::)
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https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/05/02/digital-id-is-a-danger-to-us-all/
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Yes, this has Bliar's stench all over it.
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Sadly it is inevitable. Everyone in the world ( when it is controlled by Emperor Xi) will have implanted chip to ID them. Naturally countries championing freedom, free speech and so on will kick against it. Yet you have ANPR, cars that can report where and how you were driving, phones and social media. In fact people are happy to be bombarded with offers based on their surfing.
So what is the actual issue with having ID? Everyone in Spain has an ID card. In twenty years I have been asked for it once ( when Igot stopped at a routine roadside stop). It is however very useful in transactions eg ordering goods as it gives the vendor solid info as to who you are.
If it was linked to social security/ health number, national insurance and bank accounts it would help weed out fraud perhaps.
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An ID card I'd have no issue with. I have a driving licence and a passport, after all.
..but this is a government-mandated "app" on your phone which you require to exercise the privilege of having a job. With this country's track record on delivering IT projects and securing data. :-X
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I heard this is for adults, but what about teenagers, underage drinking etc.
I had my 1st drink in a pub at the age of 14, the 2 lads I went with , both older and with tattoos were asked to leave but I was told I was OK to stay. so maybe ID may have been useful for my friends.
I understand the need for it but like everything it's only any good if applied properly.
Then there's all the fake ID like driving license, passports, will this become the same.?
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This is from the .gov site. The bit about digital ID deterring illegal immigrants from making dangerous journeys is a joke surely. They can’t really believe that will stop them can they. This digital ID idea appears to be further along than we’d like it to be, and I have zero confidence of our data being secure. ::)
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/digital-id-scheme-explainer/digital-id-scheme-explainer
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An ID card I'd have no issue with. I have a driving licence and a passport, after all.
..but this is a government-mandated "app" on your phone which you require to exercise the privilege of having a job. With this country's track record on delivering IT projects and securing data. :-X
Add in all the wonders of AI and the world is going to grind to a halt very quickly.
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All very well if you need it to work / gain employment, but neither my wife or myself have no intention of working again so presumably we won't need one.
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All very well if you need it to work / gain employment, but neither my wife or myself have no intention of working again so presumably we won't need one.
You will probably need it for a hospital visit, or when dealing with any government department.
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Truth be known Starmer and his Fabian society mates are all big fans of the Chinese social credit system.
Speak against the 'system' and you may find you are not allowed to travel, or your bank account has been frozen. :-X :-\
Expect even more knocks at the door from plod because they may need to check and correct your thinking.
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All very well if you need it to work / gain employment, but neither my wife or myself have no intention of working again so presumably we won't need one.
This goes way beyond showing ID, they’ll link it to your National Insurance number, your NHS number, your pension, your banking and whatever else they see fit to do.
On the .gov site link, the ID will contain your name, date of birth, nationality, your photo, and they are in discussions regarding adding your address on as well. But don’t worry, it will all be secure, said nobody. ;D
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Indeed, and it will be far more than that too!
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I don't think he'll get it past his own MPs.
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The petition against it has 2,291,399 signatures. :y
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194
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The petition against it has 2,291,399 signatures. :y
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194
2,311,896. :)
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I suspect that if you started a petition to hang Tone E B Liar for treason it would take off just as quickly.
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I suspect that if you started a petition to hang Tone E B Liar for treason it would take off just as quickly.
Oh definitely. :y Starmer’s Blair’s puppet, if you look closely you can see the string. ::)
I’m sure that Starmer has some mental issues.
He told an interviewer that he has 2 sons, one son of 15 and one son of age 13. He actually has a son and a daughter so that’s weird.
He then wanted his sausages returned, and now he thinks he’s Tony Blair and needs a digital ID to remind himself that he’s not.
His family must be so ashamed of him. Just imagine the shit you’d get at school if that was your dad.
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I suspect that if you started a petition to hang Tone E B Liar for treason it would take off just as quickly.
Oh definitely. :y Starmer’s Blair’s puppet, if you look closely you can see the string. ::)
I’m sure that Starmer has some mental issues.
He told an interviewer that he has 2 sons, one son of 15 and one son of age 13. He actually has a son and a daughter so that’s weird.
He then wanted his sausages returned, and now he thinks he’s Tony Blair and needs a digital ID to remind himself that he’s not.
His family must be so ashamed of him. Just imagine the shit you’d get at school if that was your dad.
That's probably why he has an injunction preventing the media from identifying or reporting on his family I expect. ::)
One of 5 injunctions so I believe. One of the others probably relates to Ukrainian rent boys! ;D
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That's probably why he has an injunction preventing the media from identifying or reporting on his family I expect. ::)
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Yes, probably a good idea given his lack of popularity. :y
I did hear that a reporter asked his son his name and Starmer said **“Don’t tell him, Toby”**. ;D
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Ok, so I made that bit up (although the name is correct).
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;D
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Ahh but that is the question… Toby or not Toby?
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I bet he wishes he wasn't.
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I suspect that if you started a petition to hang Tone E B Liar for treason it would take off just as quickly.
Oh definitely. :y Starmer’s Blair’s puppet, if you look closely you can see the string. ::)
I’m sure that Starmer has some mental issues.
He told an interviewer that he has 2 sons, one son of 15 and one son of age 13. He actually has a son and a daughter so that’s weird.
He then wanted his sausages returned, and now he thinks he’s Tony Blair and needs a digital ID to remind himself that he’s not.
His family must be so ashamed of him. Just imagine the shit you’d get at school if that was your dad.
The most ridiculous hallucination he's had is that the government can deliver a working IT project in 4 years. :D
Oh, wait! Blair Jr. has probably been working on it for years, bankrolled by his father. :-X
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Given how many big organisations have had data stolen in the past few months, and it appears at least one of them paid £20m ransom to the crooks, and the data was still leaked anyway, can you imagine a civil service department keeping the data remotely safe? Or even store it exclusively in sovereign territory?
No bloody chance. Not a hope in hell.
Silly me, I thought to legally get a job in the UK you had to prove you were allowed to work here. How is this ill considered idea any different?
There is a very simple way to stoop illegal small boat crossings, and the Royal Navy could use the target practice. That would be a proper deterent, though I accept would have to be done 9 miles out from France....
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I suspect that if you started a petition to hang Tone E B Liar for treason it would take off just as quickly.
Oh definitely. :y Starmer’s Blair’s puppet, if you look closely you can see the string. ::)
I’m sure that Starmer has some mental issues.
He told an interviewer that he has 2 sons, one son of 15 and one son of age 13. He actually has a son and a daughter so that’s weird.
He then wanted his sausages returned, and now he thinks he’s Tony Blair and needs a digital ID to remind himself that he’s not.
His family must be so ashamed of him. Just imagine the shit you’d get at school if that was your dad.
The most ridiculous hallucination he's had is that the government can deliver a working IT project in 4 years. :D
Oh, wait! Blair Jr. has probably been working on it for years, bankrolled by his father. :-X
He'd be flipping burgers otherwise.
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Given how many big organisations have had data stolen in the past few months, and it appears at least one of them paid £20m ransom to the crooks, and the data was still leaked anyway, can you imagine a civil service department keeping the data remotely safe? Or even store it exclusively in sovereign territory?
No bloody chance. Not a hope in hell.
Silly me, I thought to legally get a job in the UK you had to prove you were allowed to work here. How is this ill considered idea any different?
There is a very simple way to stoop illegal small boat crossings, and the Royal Navy could use the target practice. That would be a proper deterent, though I accept would have to be done 9 miles out from France....
My solution would be to immediately ship them back to various French beaches using RN landing craft. Let the French or whoever handle their asylum claims. Yes it would create a bit of a furore but in the grand scheme of things the French would get over it. Just a fortnight of returns would see the route dry up.
A friend says he would use Hercules to parachute them randomly back into Europe!
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That's a bit Liberal Leftie, Sir Varche ;D
And I suspect not a big deterrent, as they would try again next week. If their boats were sunk by the RN 9 miles out, it would be a big deterrent to those who managed to swim back, and a non-issue for those that didn't ;)
Yours faithfully,
Right Wing Thug
;D
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That's a bit Liberal Leftie, Sir Varche ;D
And I suspect not a big deterrent, as they would try again next week. If their boats were sunk by the RN 9 miles out, it would be a big deterrent to those who managed to swim back, and a non-issue for those that didn't ;)
Yours faithfully,
Far right Wing Thug
;D
Fixed that for you. :y ;D
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It seems likely that Oracle will be involved (as well as Blairs son ? ) in the scheme as the owner is a very good friend of Blairs.
He gave Blairs foundation a huge amount of money - £275 million if my memory serves.
https://archive.ph/mKi7s
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It seems likely that Oracle will be involved (as well as Blairs son ? ) in the scheme as the owner is a very good friend of Blairs.
He gave Blairs foundation a huge amount of money - £275 million if my memory serves.
https://archive.ph/mKi7s
Oracle who's Oracle Cloud hasn't just been hacked a few weeks ago. Oh sorry, that was Oracle's other cloud, so that doesn't count ;D
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The Swiss have just very narrowly voted for Digital ID Cards, 50.4% for and 49.6% against. ::)
Apparently the American tech company Palantir who are heavily involved in digital ID card systems worldwide, including the UK's proposed scheme, sponsored the Yes campaign. :-X
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdr624j16jpo
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Just do what old people do: Don't go online and keep all of your money in cash at home. Bullet proof.
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Just do what old people do: Don't go online and keep all of your money in cash at home. Bullet proof.
Wrapped up safely in a pair of your well-used under crackers.
Safe as houses. :)
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Just do what old people do: Don't go online and keep all of your money in cash at home. Bullet proof.
Wrapped up safely in a pair of your well-used under crackers.
Safe as houses. :)
Yes, sounds like something an old person would say, like you, would do.
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Just do what old people do: Don't go online and keep all of your money in cash at home. Bullet proof.
Yes where are you keeping it now exactly mate👍👍🤣. See you later🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I don't find the card per-se to be the issue - as others have said we have driving licenses, passports, NI numbers etc. For me the issues are...
1) Are we required to carry it at all times? Or is it like a driving license - you've got 3 days to get down the cop-shop with it?
2) Who can 'demand' to see it?
3) If I get attacked by a great white lesser spotted Somerset squirrel and am bleeding to death, are they going to demand to see the card before treating me?
Anyone who thinks this is going to stop illegal immigrants getting jobs or claiming benefits is an idiot, who will probably be voting Reform at the next election anyway so there is zero political capital for Labour in introducing it. Barking, the lot of them.
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Reform is the answer, now what’s the question?
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Although I would go so far as to say Chuck the wasters out and replace the house of commons with the OOF. We can surely do a far better job. How could we possibly do worse….,
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Left hand, right hand springs to mind. ::)
From the government guidelines:
Under the government's plans digital ID will be required in order to work in the UK, but the government says people who aren't looking to work (for example, pensioners) won't have to have one.
From Lisa Nandy :
While announcing the government’s plans to roll out digital IDs, the culture secretary Lisa Nandy said “ALL UK citizens will have a digital ID” and that “ALL UK citizens will have to have it”.
I don't find the card per-se to be the issue - as others have said we have driving licenses, passports, NI numbers etc. For me the issues are...
1) Are we required to carry it at all times? Or is it like a driving license - you've got 3 days to get down the cop-shop with it?
2) Who can 'demand' to see it?
3) If I get attacked by a great white lesser spotted Somerset squirrel and am bleeding to death, are they going to demand to see the card before treating me?
Anyone who thinks this is going to stop illegal immigrants getting jobs or claiming benefits is an idiot, who will probably be voting Reform at the next election anyway so there is zero political capital for Labour in introducing it. Barking, the lot of them.
From the .gov website :
1. No requirement to carry it with you. :y
2. Certainly NOT the Police according to the .gov site, but no doubt they’ll abuse that like their obsessive ego for normal ID. (That last bit was me, not the .gov site) ::)
3. Funnily enough they don’t mention that one, regardless of how you came about the injuries. :)
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so there is zero political capital for Labour in introducing it.
But there may well be massive financial gain for Labours puppet masters who are orchestrating the development of this. :-\
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Just do what old people do: Don't go online and keep all of your money in cash at home. Bullet proof.
Yes where are you keeping it now exactly mate👍👍🤣. See you later🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I didn't say me, Rae, I said old people. Someone like you :)
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Ahh, got ya youngster👍🤣
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Just do what old people do: Don't go online and keep all of your money in cash at home. Bullet proof.
Until they abolish cash. The plan wont work while cash is still legal tender. :)
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And, that’s when were truly fu( ed
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If we renounce our citizenship, do we still have to have one :-\
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And, that’s when we’re truly fu( ed
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I don't find the card per-se to be the issue - as others have said we have driving licenses, passports, NI numbers etc. For me the issues are...
1) Are we required to carry it at all times? Or is it like a driving license - you've got 3 days to get down the cop-shop with it?
2) Who can 'demand' to see it?
3) If I get attacked by a great white lesser spotted Somerset squirrel and am bleeding to death, are they going to demand to see the card before treating me?
Anyone who thinks this is going to stop illegal immigrants getting jobs or claiming benefits is an idiot, who will probably be voting Reform at the next election anyway so there is zero political capital for Labour in introducing it. Barking, the lot of them.
The only people who might possibly believe this will stop illegal immigration etc. etc. will be the hard of thinking who vote Labour.
No one who votes Reform will be taken in by this nonsense. Or indeed the nonsense the Tories spouted for fourteen years.
Thats why they vote Reform instead of the two parties who have run the country into the ground. :)
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Or it could be that reform turn out To be just as bad as the others?
I bet right now there are people who voted Trump thinking things aren’t going well just as there would be Biden voters who thought the same. They are all the same. Promise the earth and deliver beggar all ( but manage to get rich from it with books, after dinner speeches etc.)
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Worse than what exactly?
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Of course they could turn out worse, (although it would be hard to be worse than this lot) but we know for a fact that the others are utter shite, and have been for over thirty years, so bearing in mind their general direction of travel is the right one, its worth giving them a chance in my opinion.
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Certainly nothing to lose from it.
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Apparently the American tech company Palantir who are heavily involved in digital ID card systems worldwide, including the UK's proposed scheme, sponsored the Yes campaign. :-X
I vaguely recall they leaved a load of data to crooks a few years back....
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If we don’t give them a chance we’ll never know🤷♂️ and at the moment looks like they will get there anyway if the polls are anything to go by.