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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Auto Addict on 09 December 2006, 08:36:27
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Went to the dealers yesterday to pick up some bits and pieces.
Outside the service bay was a brand new Vectra with it's bonnet up.
Had a quick look (being nosy) they were recharging the battery with a heavy duty battery charger with the battery still connected.
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probably been asked to do it like that cos the owners lost the radio code, i worked in the mechanics game for a few years and got out cos theres too many "tamperers".
i never wanted to get to the stage of electronic control engines. you would not believe how often we had "tamperers" come in with squealing brakes only to find they had put the pads in the wrong way round !!! tone
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probably been asked to do it like that cos the owners lost the radio code, i worked in the mechanics game for a few years and got out cos theres too many "tamperers".
Far better to loose the radio for a while, apply for the code and save the alternator ECU etc. in my opinion.
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This was a brand new unregistered Vectra.
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This was a brand new unregistered Vectra.
1. He'd have to go and find the correct size spanner.
2. Re-enter radio/cd code
3. Reset the electric windows/sunroof
Sod doing all that......lets just connect the charger with the battery connected ;D ::)
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This was a brand new unregistered Vectra.
Pitty, if it had a registration plate you could publish it here so that we all know not to buy it ;D
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I was in PC World earlier, picking up some shite I'd order via their website. Anyway, had to wait in queue for repairs, and watched in horror as 'technician' dismantled a laptop, removed SO-DIMM all without any antistatic protection, and fitted new module... ...I expect that will need replacing again in a few months. Tosser.
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I was in PC World earlier, picking up some shite I'd order via their website. Anyway, had to wait in queue for repairs, and watched in horror as 'technician' dismantled a laptop, removed SO-DIMM all without any antistatic protection, and fitted new module... ...I expect that will need replacing again in a few months. Tosser.
So who carnt spell sugar in the naughty words filter ::)
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I was in PC World earlier, picking up some shite I'd order via their website. Anyway, had to wait in queue for repairs, and watched in horror as 'technician' dismantled a laptop, removed SO-DIMM all without any antistatic protection, and fitted new module... ...I expect that will need replacing again in a few months. Tosser.
He was a Tosser if he didnt earth himself seconds before doing the job.....i used to quite often work on laptops/pc's etc and usually couldnt be arsed to wear an anti static strap.....but i always used to touch an earth before touching anything remotely static sensitve
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I was in PC World earlier, picking up some shite I'd order via their website. Anyway, had to wait in queue for repairs, and watched in horror as 'technician' dismantled a laptop, removed SO-DIMM all without any antistatic protection, and fitted new module... ...I expect that will need replacing again in a few months. Tosser.
So who carnt spell sugar in the naughty words filter ::)
That depends on whether you spell shit with or without an e
shit
shite
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I was in PC World earlier, picking up some shite I'd order via their website. Anyway, had to wait in queue for repairs, and watched in horror as 'technician' dismantled a laptop, removed SO-DIMM all without any antistatic protection, and fitted new module... ...I expect that will need replacing again in a few months. Tosser.
He was a Tosser if he didnt earth himself seconds before doing the job.....i used to quite often work on laptops/pc's etc and usually couldnt be arsed to wear an anti static strap.....but i always used to touch an earth before touching anything remotely static sensitve
Earthing by touching case before helps but does not prevent ESD.
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Most of the boards I work with are pretty bomb proof, not laptops though haha :-/
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Most of the boards I work with are pretty bomb proof, not laptops though haha :-/
No electronic boards are immune from ESD ;)
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Most of the boards I work with are pretty bomb proof, not laptops though haha :-/
No electronic boards are immune from ESD ;)
Think about that the next time you get in a lift then Mr TheBoy ;)
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Most of the boards I work with are pretty bomb proof, not laptops though haha :-/
No electronic boards are immune from ESD ;)
Think about that the next time you get in a lift then Mr TheBoy ;)
Noooo! Don't say that! ;D
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Most of the boards I work with are pretty bomb proof, not laptops though haha :-/
No electronic boards are immune from ESD ;)
Think about that the next time you get in a lift then Mr TheBoy ;)
Noooo! Don't say that! ;D
Muahahahaha! ;)
::)
Seriously though, I've seen boards stacked then carried and generally roughly handled...they can take it ;)
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They might at first....but time will tell.
Seriously, ESD is a big issue, even more so in the modern world of sub micron silicon (almost everywhere now).
In our factories, its a big deal with antistatic floors, footwear and heal straps (wrist straps are rarely used in a production environment) and ESd can build up with just the movement of an arm (hence touching a case before hand its no guarantee...)
The big issue is that ESD can often do un-seen damage which can ause problems later.....like damaging the aparsitic diodes on the IC's I/O, memory is very prone to such damage
It costs big bucks to impliment and follow and buisnesses dont spend money unless they have to...
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The big issue is that ESD can often do un-seen damage which can ause problems later
That is the big problemt with ESD - people change stuff without protection, and because it works afterwards, think that its OK. Its not, and damage would have been done - often resulting in differcult to find intermittent problems.
Also, "it's ok, I held by edge of board" type comments aren't valid either.
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Also, "it's ok, I held by edge of board" type comments aren't valid either.
Nope, inner planes extend right to the egde of the PWB....
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Also, "it's ok, I held by edge of board" type comments aren't valid either.
Nope, inner planes extend right to the egde of the PWB....
PWB? same as PCB? Last time i worked for a computer manufacturer (along time ago) they were designing PCB's upto 14 layers thick......wonders how many layers you can get to now? :-/