But as the type 75 BRM is 2 flat 8's stacked, then what would it be classed as. if that is it does fall under anything other than the "Type 75" named by BRM
Wot about the Wankel?
Sorry, should have said "Vot about the Wankel?"
Ah yes.
First one I remember is the RO80
Dont forget the H24 Napier Sabre engine with sleeve vales of the 1940's:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Napier_Sabre01.jpg/800px-Napier_Sabre01.jpg)
Just looked at the link, Thats interesting stuff, never even thought to find out any info on "The Delta" layout. Of to have a read through.
Did they ever build a small one for a car, Lizzie might fancy one for a Miggy transplant. :y :y
a marine engine if i remember correct.QuoteJust looked at the link, Thats interesting stuff, never even thought to find out any info on "The Delta" layout. Of to have a read through.
Did they ever build a small one for a car, Lizzie might fancy one for a Miggy transplant. :y :y
It was actually developed as a small powerful and light weight engine for military use!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tK8BfoTLG4
Now tell me that doesn't raise the hackles on the back of your neck - during the odd few seconds when it's actually firing on all 16!
Kevin
bet his neighbours love him...
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=N0f3TbWWMKA&feature=related
;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd_ZUgbu-DU&feature=related this one that makes you think jings how they build this in the 60 's when everyone run a bonneville and stuff like it . Amazing engineering really , 20k rpm with pistons the size of thimbells
Didn't someone put a gas turbine engine in a car in the 60's , might have been Rover but I'm not sure.
Didn't someone put a gas turbine engine in a car in the 60's , might have been Rover but I'm not sure.
QuoteDidn't someone put a gas turbine engine in a car in the 60's , might have been Rover but I'm not sure.
Didn't the police use them for a bit but gave up because the crims could here them coming and did a runner? I seem to remember my dad telling me this...
Does anyone remember the Honda with oval pistons? (ceramic I think)Yeah i remember it it had pistons like cans of Spam , double conrods and host technical stuff , but typical Big H well over enginerred and slow as hell compared to the 500 strokers ,didnt take long for them to drop it and revert to a 2 stroke
Strokers were ruling the roost & Honda came up with this 4 stroke with oval pistons, Mick Grant crashed the thing on its debut & it burst into flames, I'd bet they were pleased with him.
The Honda 6 (250 & 297) & Honda 5 (125) were light years ahead of anything in the sixties, & the Guzzi v8 was something special in the 50's also.
So far in advance of anything on 4 wheels.
If we go by design, we have the square 4, or boxer engine. the 4 pot, , 5 pot inline six, V6, straight 8, V12, V5, V8, V16. Then W12 and W16.hi the only time this engine won a race it was in a lotus ;D it was built for the 3 l f1 in 1966 at the works it was know as the H16
So up from the boxer, square 4 (that is if I am calling them correcly that is) or flat 4 as I could/will say, I maybe could assume there have been flat 6's, flat 8.s and maybe even flat 12's Silly me (sleep deprevation (Porche = Flat 6)
But as the type 75 BRM is 2 flat 8's stacked, then what would it be classed as. if that is it does fall under anything other than the "Type 75" named by BRM
i vaguely remember some one putting a RR merlin engine in a Roller and taking it down the autobahn in the 70's ,was a kid out in germany then and remember it being mentioned on BFBS but i could be wrong as it was a long time ago
QuoteQuoteDidn't someone put a gas turbine engine in a car in the 60's , might have been Rover but I'm not sure.
Didn't the police use them for a bit but gave up because the crims could here them coming and did a runner? I seem to remember my dad telling me this...
No, the gas turbine is vitually silent, apart from a slight whistle, Rover put one into a modified P4, but they didn't go into production.
The railways experimented with them for a while, I saw GT3 at an exhibition in Marylebone many years ago, it had coupling rods, and was designed to look similar to a steam loco.
i vaguely remember some one putting a RR merlin engine in a Roller and taking it down the autobahn in the 70's ,was a kid out in germany then and remember it being mentioned on BFBS but i could be wrong as it was a long time ago
http://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/stories/getobjectstory.php?rnum=L3522&enum=LE130&maxp=18&pnum=11
This was the GT3 to which I referred to in an earlier post.
Quotehttp://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/stories/getobjectstory.php?rnum=L3522&enum=LE130&maxp=18&pnum=11
This was the GT3 to which I referred to in an earlier post.
Thanks Bedders! :y Great picture of an interesting experimental period with alternative methods of power for railway engines other than steam. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :y :y :y
QuoteQuotehttp://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/stories/getobjectstory.php?rnum=L3522&enum=LE130&maxp=18&pnum=11
This was the GT3 to which I referred to in an earlier post.
Thanks Bedders! :y Great picture of an interesting experimental period with alternative methods of power for railway engines other than steam. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :y :y :y
A former colleague of mine (Ross Lowry) worked on that for English Electric and always commented on how it was the most effective fuel burner he had ever seen!
The Beast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxMxFE37Sxw
QuoteQuoteQuotehttp://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/stories/getobjectstory.php?rnum=L3522&enum=LE130&maxp=18&pnum=11
This was the GT3 to which I referred to in an earlier post.
Thanks Bedders! :y Great picture of an interesting experimental period with alternative methods of power for railway engines other than steam. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :y :y :y
A former colleague of mine (Ross Lowry) worked on that for English Electric and always commented on how it was the most effective fuel burner he had ever seen!
Yes I bet it was.
Isn't it typical of the British to dump an idea, at just the point where it is almost perfected. :'(
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuotehttp://www.railwayarchive.org.uk/stories/getobjectstory.php?rnum=L3522&enum=LE130&maxp=18&pnum=11
This was the GT3 to which I referred to in an earlier post.
Thanks Bedders! :y Great picture of an interesting experimental period with alternative methods of power for railway engines other than steam. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :y :y :y
A former colleague of mine (Ross Lowry) worked on that for English Electric and always commented on how it was the most effective fuel burner he had ever seen!
Yes I bet it was.
Isn't it typical of the British to dump an idea, at just the point where it is almost perfected. :'(
Lol, far from perfected and far from practical sadly!
Does anyone remember the Honda with oval pistons? (ceramic I think)
Strokers were ruling the roost & Honda came up with this 4 stroke with oval pistons, Mick Grant crashed the thing on its debut & it burst into flames, I'd bet they were pleased with him.
The Honda 6 (250 & 297) & Honda 5 (125) were light years ahead of anything in the sixties, & the Guzzi v8 was something special in the 50's also.
So far in advance of anything on 4 wheels.
Wot about the Wankel?
Sorry, should have said "Vot about the Wankel?"
GT3 was too thirsty, needed turntables, had a lot of the same problems as steam locos, yet proved gas turbines could be simple
QuoteWot about the Wankel?
Sorry, should have said "Vot about the Wankel?"
Yes Jereboam, what has been the development of this "revolutionary" engine of the 1960s? :-/
I know Mazda once had the worldwide patent rights, and used it in some models, with, as understood it, problems developing on its tri-rotor contact points with the master 'cylinder / chamber'.
Was it further developed with these issue resolved? Is it installed in any cars in 2008? Is it still Mazda who have sole rights on it?
What, if any, are still the challenges with this engine design? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
:y :y
QuoteWot about the Wankel?
Sorry, should have said "Vot about the Wankel?"
Yes Jereboam, what has been the development of this "revolutionary" engine of the 1960s? :-/
I know Mazda once had the worldwide patent rights, and used it in some models, with, as understood it, problems developing on its tri-rotor contact points with the master 'cylinder / chamber'.
Was it further developed with these issue resolved? Is it installed in any cars in 2008? Is it still Mazda who have sole rights on it?
What, if any, are still the challenges with this engine design? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
:y :y
QuoteQuoteWot about the Wankel?
Sorry, should have said "Vot about the Wankel?"
Yes Jereboam, what has been the development of this "revolutionary" engine of the 1960s? :-/
I know Mazda once had the worldwide patent rights, and used it in some models, with, as understood it, problems developing on its tri-rotor contact points with the master 'cylinder / chamber'.
Was it further developed with these issue resolved? Is it installed in any cars in 2008? Is it still Mazda who have sole rights on it?
What, if any, are still the challenges with this engine design? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
:y :y
Mazda still produce the RX8 which has a rotary engine it in, but its emissions are very high and this could effectively see the end of it, which is a shame as it is now a engine that has it's issues pretty much sorted out.
The original Rotary engine in the RO80 was prone to burning it's rotor tips, this was very expensive and so people ended up putting ford V4 engines is as a replacement, Mazda were still having issues when the RX7 first came out, but during the life of the RX7 they ironed out a lot of the issues...
i believe it's swept capacity is about 1300/1400 CC and puts out approx 190bhp!!
In Britain, in the 1960s, Rolls Royce Motor Car Division at Crewe, Cheshire, pioneered a two-stage Diesel version of the Wankel engine.[2]
with2 conrods per piston and iirc 2 crankshafts (?)QuoteDoes anyone remember the Honda with oval pistons? (ceramic I think)
Strokers were ruling the roost & Honda came up with this 4 stroke with oval pistons, Mick Grant crashed the thing on its debut & it burst into flames, I'd bet they were pleased with him.
The Honda 6 (250 & 297) & Honda 5 (125) were light years ahead of anything in the sixties, & the Guzzi v8 was something special in the 50's also.
So far in advance of anything on 4 wheels.
NR500 - basically a 32v V8 using 4 pistons
i believe it's swept capacity is about 1300/1400 CC and puts out approx 190bhp!!
Quotei believe it's swept capacity is about 1300/1400 CC and puts out approx 190bhp!!
More like 240 BHP @ 9,000 RPM from the Jap spec models IIRC. 8-)
A little bit thirsty due to the low compression inherent in a Wankel engine (they're just begging for forced induction really).
Kevin
QuoteQuoteWot about the Wankel?
Sorry, should have said "Vot about the Wankel?"
Yes Jereboam, what has been the development of this "revolutionary" engine of the 1960s? :-/
I know Mazda once had the worldwide patent rights, and used it in some models, with, as understood it, problems developing on its tri-rotor contact points with the master 'cylinder / chamber'.
Was it further developed with these issue resolved? Is it installed in any cars in 2008? Is it still Mazda who have sole rights on it?
What, if any, are still the challenges with this engine design? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
:y :y
Norton developed a highly creditable rotary engine for motorcycle racing & swept all before them for a period. All that with 3 men in an old shed somewhere, where it took £m's & hundreds of engineers in Japan to do something similar.