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Title: Cheap Laptop
Post by: TheBoy on 26 September 2008, 20:19:02
Does under £230 for a new lappy, mainstream brand sound like a decent deal? Mrs TheBoy's Tosh has had it, and her Dell has a knackered system board.

Its a 1G Ram, 120G HDD, dvd writer, 17" screen, 965 chipset (so likely a X3100 integrated, though may have discreet ATI 1300 series), bluetooth, Celeron 550 (so 2Ghz). Wireless? Who knows.

Full spec is sketchy, as exact variation doesn't appear on manufacturers website.

Given the spec, may downgrade from the included Vista Home Premium (as won't work on our domain properly) to XP Pro, if I have a spare licence (which means removing it from her desktop she hasn't used in years!)


Is £230 a good price, or can I do better.  Of Core2 Duo, would happily spend another £50...
Title: Re: Cheap Laptop
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 September 2008, 20:23:20
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Does under £230 for a new lappy, mainstream brand sound like a decent deal? Mrs TheBoy's Tosh has had it, and her Dell has a knackered system board.

Its a 1G Ram, 120G HDD, dvd writer, 17" screen, 965 chipset (so likely a X3100 integrated, though may have discreet ATI 1300 series), bluetooth, Celeron 550 (so 2Ghz). Wireless? Who knows.

Full spec is sketchy, as exact variation doesn't appear on manufacturers website.

Given the spec, may downgrade from the included Vista Home Premium (as won't work on our domain properly) to XP Pro, if I have a spare licence (which means removing it from her desktop she hasn't used in years!)


Is £230 a good price, or can I do better.  Of Core2 Duo, would happily spend another £50...

would prefer core2 duo .. £50 is not an important amount if you divide into the period you use :)
Title: Re: Cheap Laptop
Post by: Bandit127 on 26 September 2008, 21:17:16
It sounds like a great deal.

But in practice, cheap laptops have a b*ggeration factor that makes them slow and ponderous no matter what you do to get rid of the bloatware, optimising the system etc.

At the end of the day/week/month you end up with what is still a cheap laptop.

If Mrs TB just wants to surf and write letters it will probably be great. If you are going to use it then the shine may wear off quickly.

My M90 and my Mrs Best Mate's Advent are very similar specs. But worlds different to use.
Title: Re: Cheap Laptop
Post by: TheBoy on 26 September 2008, 21:21:13
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It sounds like a great deal.

But in practice, cheap laptops have a b*ggeration factor that makes them slow and ponderous no matter what you do to get rid of the bloatware, optimising the system etc.

At the end of the day/week/month you end up with what is still a cheap laptop.

If Mrs TB just wants to surf and write letters it will probably be great. If you are going to use it then the shine may wear off quickly.

My M90 and my Mrs Best Mate's Advent are very similar specs. But worlds different to use.
Exactly, which is why I've check it has a full blown 965 chipset.

My own lappy looks very similar, but is Core2 Duo, so I wouldn't use it...
Title: Re: Cheap Laptop
Post by: TheBoy on 26 September 2008, 21:21:56
Both are HP/Compaq Business Laptops, not the overprice consumer Presario junk.
Title: Re: Cheap Laptop
Post by: zirk on 27 September 2008, 12:18:39
Seems a good price to me, how much more for Centrino rather than Celeron?.

Ripping out Vista and installing XP Pro is the sort of thing I would think about as well, but you need to convince yourself that your going to get all the Laptop drivers working again properly.

Im not a fan of Vista but hear that SP 1 on vista works well now, think if you put Vista in Windows Classic mode seems to get rid of all those security pop ups?
Title: Re: Cheap Laptop
Post by: TheBoy on 27 September 2008, 13:07:50
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Seems a good price to me, how much more for Centrino rather than Celeron?.

Ripping out Vista and installing XP Pro is the sort of thing I would think about as well, but you need to convince yourself that your going to get all the Laptop drivers working again properly.

Im not a fan of Vista but hear that SP 1 on vista works well now, think if you put Vista in Windows Classic mode seems to get rid of all those security pop ups?

Cannot get Core2 chipped ones cheap :(

As to Vista, and annoying pop-ups, they can, BUT ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT, be turned off.

XP has a bad security image.  The OS itself is pretty secure.  The problem comes because users think its a slur on their character to run as a normal user, and have to run as an Administrator to confirm the size of their manhood.  This is bad. Very bad.

To overcome this, knowing users would always insist on running as an Administrator, MS implemented a solution whereby anything potentially reducing OS security would pop up a prompt before continuing.  OK, it won't stop dimwits from being dimwits, but it at least allows users to know that an app/download/activex is trying to do something that probably it shouldn't.  These pop ups are good.


Linux, the haven of no security flaws (if you believe the fanboys) is starting to see similar breaches as its getting popular, as users think they need to run as root to prove themselves.  They do this, and BANG!, all Unix security is dropped, same as Windows.
Title: Re: Cheap Laptop
Post by: Phil on 29 September 2008, 09:13:56
Are these  available to 'the public' or a special deal only you can get?

Just i'm after a cheap laptop to surf 'the net' and use for photos and MP3's.

This seems to fit the bill

Title: Re: Cheap Laptop
Post by: TheBoy on 29 September 2008, 09:16:51
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Are these  available to 'the public' or a special deal only you can get?

Just i'm after a cheap laptop to surf 'the net' and use for photos and MP3's.

This seems to fit the bill

No, me and a few thousand others only.  Deal from ex-employer.
Title: Re: Cheap Laptop
Post by: Welung666 on 29 September 2008, 09:19:07
Can we put in our orders with you then TB ;) :y
Title: Re: Cheap Laptop
Post by: TheBoy on 29 September 2008, 09:23:46
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Can we put in our orders with you then TB ;) :y
Sadly, no.  Deal for employees, from ex-employer.  Don't want to draw attention to fact I don't work for them any more  :-X
Title: Re: Cheap Laptop
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 29 September 2008, 11:20:36
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Can we put in our orders with you then TB ;) :y
Sadly, no.  Deal for employees, from ex-employer.  Don't want to draw attention to fact I don't work for them any more  :-X

Surely a few hundred laptops wouldnt be drawing attention would it.    ::) ::) ::) :-X :y
Title: Re: Cheap Laptop
Post by: TheBoy on 29 September 2008, 11:22:10
I've order 1 now anyway.  It will make a good present for her birthday, and means I don't have to go out shopping ;D
Title: Re: Cheap Laptop
Post by: zirk on 29 September 2008, 13:49:26
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I've order 1 now anyway.  It will make a good present for her birthday, and means I don't have to go out shopping ;D

Dont forget to get it in Pink.
Title: Re: Cheap Laptop
Post by: TheBoy on 29 September 2008, 13:53:22
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I've order 1 now anyway.  It will make a good present for her birthday, and means I don't have to go out shopping ;D

Dont forget to get it in Pink.
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