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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: JamesV6CDX on 05 November 2008, 17:59:57
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http://www.simplyamsterdam.nl/news/Red_Light_District_in_Alkmaar_also_under_siege.htm
Don't get me wrong here (I have a girlfriend :D ) but I actually think these tolerance zones should be encouraged for such activities and given the support of local authorities and the Police.
End of the day, closing down such an area is only going to push things underground, rather than eradicate it - with the end result being increases in crime, diseases, etc.
I personally am against closing down these red light districts.
Controversial I know - any views?
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im all for it, saves me a few quid every weekend ;D ;D ;D
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im all for it, saves me a few quid every weekend ;D ;D ;D
Lol you dirty old man :D
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i worked with a bloke a few yrs ago, one of the nicest blokes ive ever known, he was obsessed with them, every weekend he would do all his money on them and borrow all week, permanat scabs on his face, then he came into work one day after a weekend on drugs and pros, this is what happened to him, nobody has heard from him in 3 yrs now, he just vanished
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj182/richierich1961/preston005.jpg)
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there was a time when the Red light areas in holland were one of the tourist attractions, i have been through the one in Amsterdam, with my then girlfriend i hasten to add.
I know this is going off thread a little but how would you feel if your local council set up an area of tolerance in/around your nieghbourhood? yes i know i am playing devils advocate here but i am trying to see it from the view point of the local residents and the council.
the other argument they are putting forward there is the fact that the funding could be from illegal activity......
I have a few friends who are dutch and they are tired of the perception that they are all doped up sex mad hippies who have a very laid back approach to life, possibly this is the first step in them changing that perception
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i worked with a bloke a few yrs ago, one of the nicest blokes ive ever known, he was obsessed with them, every weekend he would do all his money on them and borrow all week, permanat scabs on his face, then he came into work one day after a weekend on drugs and pros, this is what happened to him, nobody has heard from him in 3 yrs now, he just vanished
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj182/richierich1961/preston005.jpg)
that's a hell of a whipping!!!!!! :o :o :o :o
was that in the UK or holland?
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we was in preston 4 months at the time, fishergate i think it was called. i tried to tell him crack was rather him up but he swore it was just a weekend drug, we became great m8s working there, he put me up at his flat for a while. but he used to just vanish when we were out. after we worked in reading i could see he looked real ill and tried to get him to seek help but he laughed it off, few weeks later he just disapeared into thin air, never heard from him since. big big shame as he was a great bloke to know
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i worked with a bloke a few yrs ago, one of the nicest blokes ive ever known, he was obsessed with them, every weekend he would do all his money on them and borrow all week, permanat scabs on his face, then he came into work one day after a weekend on drugs and pros, this is what happened to him, nobody has heard from him in 3 yrs now, he just vanished
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj182/richierich1961/preston005.jpg)
that's a hell of a whipping!!!!!! :o :o :o :o
was that in the UK or holland?
sorry, wasnt whips, it was finger nails and his whole body was like it. looked like he fell into a vat of stanley blades
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i worked with a bloke a few yrs ago, one of the nicest blokes ive ever known, he was obsessed with them, every weekend he would do all his money on them and borrow all week, permanat scabs on his face, then he came into work one day after a weekend on drugs and pros, this is what happened to him, nobody has heard from him in 3 yrs now, he just vanished
(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj182/richierich1961/preston005.jpg)
that's a hell of a whipping!!!!!! :o :o :o :o
was that in the UK or holland?
sorry, wasnt whips, it was finger nails and his whole body was like it. looked like he fell into a vat of stanley blades
bloody hell :o :o :o :o
looks painful whatever caused it
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I'm going on the 14th, as long as the weed stays I'll be there, the tarts are good to window shop but are for dirty old men,
Best go in the shops and look at the mags until the owner turfs you out
'this is not a library, buy something or get out'
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Seen it from a number of angles when I was being shipped round the world for work and sad to say there is no 'right way' to do it. There are a number of wrong ways and stamping down on the girls is (fortunately) now being recognised as one of them. This is very much a supply and demand where the supply is virtually unlimited so you need to regulate the demand.
The most effective I have seen was a 'tolerated in a controlled way' as it allowed the health and disease side to be monitored making the freelancers a much less desirable route and when run in conjunction with hammering kerb-crawlers it is very effective. This route allows you to keep the trade away from residential areas in the main.
The other advantage is that if it is allowed then it can be taxed!!!
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Call me old fashoined but I think the whole thing is just sad.
Detached sex makes people feel empty,and what has happened to those girls to bring them to the point where they sell their bodies. :(
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Call me old fashoined but I think the whole thing is just sad.
Detached sex makes people feel empty,and what has happened to those girls to bring them to the point where they sell their bodies. :(
very good point..
but solution is not..oldest job in history ..as long as there is demand will be the supply.. :-/
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Seen it from a number of angles and sad to say there is no 'right way' to do it.
i agree this is very much a double edged sword.....
There are a number of wrong ways and stamping down on the girls is (fortunately) now being recognised as one of them. This is very much a supply and demand where the supply is virtually unlimited so you need to regulate the demand.
again the risk with hammering the girls is they are driven more and more underground, this means that just keeping a basic eye on things becomes more difficult and, heaven forbid, if we had a repeat of the ripper or that chap in Ipswich it becomes even more difficult to track because the girls are trying to keep out of the way of the law
The most effective I have seen was a 'tolerated in a controlled way' as it allowed the health and disease side to be monitored making the freelancers a much less desirable route and when run in conjunction with hammering kerb-crawlers it is very effective. This route allows you to keep the trade away from residential areas in the main.
The other advantage is that if it is allowed then it can be taxed!!
yes, having a 'tolerance area' will assist in the control of disease and makes dealing with abuse issues far easier, the issue then lies with 'where do you put these areas?'
i believe some years ago there were trials of tolerance areas in parts of northern england and scotland, the girls were encouraged to use industrial areas in order to maintain a human presence and so hopefully drive down crime, but the lorry drivers who used these areas for breaks and the local residents were up in arms as what was a quiet area on an evening had turned into a constantly busy part of town, there was also the issue of used condoms and needles all over the place as well.
The ability to enforce tax upon the girls is a good idea, but you have to think about why they are doing this? it is not to make a million, for the majority they are feeding a drug habit or they are being forced into this to feed someone else's drug habit, getting them to do an end of year self assessment is going to be a complete non starter, no doubt they would try and claim the drugs as 'business use'
Call me old fashioned but I think the whole thing is just sad.
Detached sex makes people feel empty,and what has happened to those girls to bring them to the point where they sell their bodies
a lot of it is issues i have covered above, but going back to your first statement about it being sad, yes i agree, but for many detached sex is what they want, no fuss, no risk of a bunny boiler, just pay the money and do the deed, a means to an end, and in reality a lot of society is like that these days....detached, emotionless, sad i know.
i used to work with a guy who was in his early 20, he loved spending his money on pros, like the chap Richie was on about, he would get to the week before payday and go asking people in work if they would lend him a tenner or £20, he even went up to accounts and asked for an advance on his wages, and was very direct when they asked him what he wanted it for!!! he saw nothing wrong with it :-/ :-/
There is no right way of dealing with this, but control would be the less contentious, but its a brave government who attempts to deal with it in the UK
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What's wrong with detached sex? Never made me feel empty mate. Have you never had a w*nk or a one night stand?
Stop being so soppy. It might suprise you to know girls use blokes for sex as well. God bless the age of equality & in case you had'nt noticed "Massage Parlours" have been legal & government approved for some time now. I don't think you're being old fashioned mate, but you speak before you think & are a little wet behind the ears.
Prostitution is legal in the UK & why not? We pay for everything else. ::)
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Seen it from a number of angles and sad to say there is no 'right way' to do it.
i agree this is very much a double edged sword.....
There are a number of wrong ways and stamping down on the girls is (fortunately) now being recognised as one of them. This is very much a supply and demand where the supply is virtually unlimited so you need to regulate the demand.
again the risk with hammering the girls is they are driven more and more underground, this means that just keeping a basic eye on things becomes more difficult and, heaven forbid, if we had a repeat of the ripper or that chap in Ipswich it becomes even more difficult to track because the girls are trying to keep out of the way of the law
The most effective I have seen was a 'tolerated in a controlled way' as it allowed the health and disease side to be monitored making the freelancers a much less desirable route and when run in conjunction with hammering kerb-crawlers it is very effective. This route allows you to keep the trade away from residential areas in the main.
The other advantage is that if it is allowed then it can be taxed!!
yes, having a 'tolerance area' will assist in the control of disease and makes dealing with abuse issues far easier, the issue then lies with 'where do you put these areas?'
i believe some years ago there were trials of tolerance areas in parts of northern england and scotland, the girls were encouraged to use industrial areas in order to maintain a human presence and so hopefully drive down crime, but the lorry drivers who used these areas for breaks and the local residents were up in arms as what was a quiet area on an evening had turned into a constantly busy part of town, there was also the issue of used condoms and needles all over the place as well.
The ability to enforce tax upon the girls is a good idea, but you have to think about why they are doing this? it is not to make a million, for the majority they are feeding a drug habit or they are being forced into this to feed someone else's drug habit, getting them to do an end of year self assessment is going to be a complete non starter, no doubt they would try and claim the drugs as 'business use'
Call me old fashioned but I think the whole thing is just sad.
Detached sex makes people feel empty,and what has happened to those girls to bring them to the point where they sell their bodies
a lot of it is issues i have covered above, but going back to your first statement about it being sad, yes i agree, but for many detached sex is what they want, no fuss, no risk of a bunny boiler, just pay the money and do the deed, a means to an end, and in reality a lot of society is like that these days....detached, emotionless, sad i know.
i used to work with a guy who was in his early 20, he loved spending his money on pros, like the chap Richie was on about, he would get to the week before payday and go asking people in work if they would lend him a tenner or £20, he even went up to accounts and asked for an advance on his wages, and was very direct when they asked him what he wanted it for!!! he saw nothing wrong with it :-/ :-/
There is no right way of dealing with this, but control would be the less contentious, but its a brave government who attempts to deal with it in the UK
Prostitution is a way of making a quick few pounds, usually to support, not just the girls drug habit but that of her boyfriend, I have seen young women and their families ruined by the drugs that prostitution paid for. I don't have an answer, and as has been said, clamping down does just push it further underground. :-/
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I remember seeing a C4 documentary about a severely disabled chap who'd never experienced intercourse. His mate took him to Amsterdam, where there was a pro who specialised in providing this service. That documentary changed my views quite profoundly. Yes, that was an extreme case, but there are men (maybe women, too) who for a variety of medical/emotional reasons are not able to indulge in the physical act. In my view, it is better that they are able to go and pay for the service, than make do without.
Its just too easy for those who have physical relationships to call others who don't/can't saddos.
If prostitution were fully legalised, it would enable the authorities to break the bond between pros and the criminal fraternity as well as ensuring health standards.
I say legalise them.
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What's wrong with detached sex? Never made me feel empty mate. Have you never had a w*nk or a one night stand?
Stop being so soppy. It might suprise you to know girls use blokes for sex as well. God bless the age of equality & in case you had'nt noticed "Massage Parlours" have been legal & government approved for some time now. I don't think you're being old fashioned mate, but you speak before you think & are a little wet behind the ears.
Prostitution is legal in the UK & why not? We pay for everything else. ::)
I am 49 years old and far from wet behind the ears.I am speaking from personal experience.I have had my fair share of no strings sex in the past and have reached the conclusion that one night with the one you love is worth a hundred nights with people you dont really know or want to know.
And I stand by my view that woman join the sex industry mostly out of desperation-force,drugs,etc; and they are someones daughter/sister/mother.I find that quite sad.
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I didn't settle down till over 40 and have had a couple of relationships over the years that was purly for a night out followed by Sex on a saturday night, no strings implied or expected, an arrangment between 2 consenting adults, before the drink flowed ;D
I think there will be others out there in similar situations, I have never paid for a prostitute, but have been paying for sex since I became an adult...... ::) ::) ::)
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Not saying its wrong ,or that consenting adults should be told what they can or cant do,just saying that my experience has led me to this conclusion. :y
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Not saying its wrong ,or that consenting adults should be told what they can or cant do,just saying that my experience has led me to this conclusion. :y
I was just adding an alternative, not related to any thread, just that there are alternatives to prostitution, that wreck so many lives. :y
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understood Mike :y :y
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What's wrong with detached sex? Never made me feel empty mate. Have you never had a w*nk or a one night stand?
Stop being so soppy. It might suprise you to know girls use blokes for sex as well. God bless the age of equality & in case you had'nt noticed "Massage Parlours" have been legal & government approved for some time now. I don't think you're being old fashioned mate, but you speak before you think & are a little wet behind the ears.
Prostitution is legal in the UK & why not? We pay for everything else. ::)
I am 49 years old and far from wet behind the ears.I am speaking from personal experience.I have had my fair share of no strings sex in the past and have reached the conclusion that one night with the one you love is worth a hundred nights with people you dont really know or want to know.
And I stand by my view that woman join the sex industry mostly out of desperation-force,drugs,etc; and they are someones daughter/sister/mother.I find that quite sad.[/quote
Not everyone want's a cosy loving marriage. The sex industry has come on in leaps & bounds. Where regulated, clean & legal is a different world to the one you're portraying (which is sick) These girls pay off mortgages years early, it's their choice, they know what they're doing as do their accountants.
If you choose to be single does that mean you 're not allowed sex?
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A nice controversial thread James.
There is a school of thought that says all men pay for sex, whether it is with a pro, or drinks for some girl in a club or a nice meal etc. out with your partner.
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A nice controversial thread James.
There is a school of thought that says all men pay for sex, whether it is with a pro, or drinks for some girl in a club or a nice meal etc. out with your partner.
My point exactly.......... :y for life...... ::) ::) ::)
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What's wrong with detached sex? Never made me feel empty mate. Have you never had a w*nk or a one night stand?
Stop being so soppy. It might suprise you to know girls use blokes for sex as well. God bless the age of equality & in case you had'nt noticed "Massage Parlours" have been legal & government approved for some time now. I don't think you're being old fashioned mate, but you speak before you think & are a little wet behind the ears.
Prostitution is legal in the UK & why not? We pay for everything else. ::)
I am 49 years old and far from wet behind the ears.I am speaking from personal experience.I have had my fair share of no strings sex in the past and have reached the conclusion that one night with the one you love is worth a hundred nights with people you dont really know or want to know.And I stand by my view that woman join the sex industry mostly out of desperation-force,drugs,etc; and they are someones daughter/sister/mother.I find that quite sad.[/quote
Not everyone want's a cosy loving marriage. The sex industry has come on in leaps & bounds. Where regulated, clean & legal is a different world to the one you're portraying (which is sick) These girls pay off mortgages years early, it's their choice, they know what they're doing as do their accountants.
If you choose to be single does that mean you 're not allowed sex?
:y I couldn`t agree more. Well articulated :y :y
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Interesting... I'm glad this thread opened up such a debate.
I know this is far too simplistic, but my views are this -
Regulated, Policed, and controlled red light districts are a GOOD thing, providing:
- the girls are doing it because the WANT to, not because they have to, have no other option, or have to fund drugs etc. Anyone forced into it through threat of violence, or need to get by, is really not good.
- It's not done in areas (such as housing/residential areas) that will cause alarm to people who may object, but in clearly controlled areas or premises that, if necessary, are designed for purpose.
Please don't get me wrong, I have a girlfriend who I love to bits and I don't need or want to pay for it....
But I still think, given both evils, it's best to keep it in view, and regulated, than let it slip underground....
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I notice no one on this thread has "ever been with one"
which i find interesting on a thread with so much input ...
Doug
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Maybe because to many people there is a social stigma attatched, but is is much different to going to a lap dance club? You still pay for your "thrills"
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A nice controversial thread James.
There is a school of thought that says all men pay for sex, whether it is with a pro, or drinks for some girl in a club or a nice meal etc. out with your partner.
Does that not apply both ways? Equal opportunities and all that? ::)
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I notice no one on this thread has "ever been with one"
which i find interesting on a thread with so much input ...
Doug
Lol... I personally never have, purely because I've not had the need to. :y
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I notice no one on this thread has "ever been with one"
which i find interesting on a thread with so much input ...
Doug
Lol... I personally never have, purely because I've not had the need to. :y
i bet they all say that ;)
did i kill the thread saying that ?
I must be getting old id rather have a bowl of soup (lasts longer) ;D
Doug
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I notice no one on this thread has "ever been with one"
which i find interesting on a thread with so much input ...
Doug
Lol... I personally never have, purely because I've not had the need to. :y
i bet they all say that ;)
did i kill the thread saying that ?
I must be getting old id rather have a bowl of soup (lasts longer) ;D
Doug
Lol, I'd be lying if I said the temptation wasn't there when walking around Amsterdam on a blokes weekend away... but the main things that stopped me, in this order probably, were
1) Already have a lovely girlfriend, couldn't hurt her and couldn't live with the guilt
2) Worry of contracting an STD (who's been there before you ;D )
3) Mates would take the p1ss forever...
4) Lack of cash!!
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I notice no one on this thread has "ever been with one"
which i find interesting on a thread with so much input ...
Doug
Lol... I personally never have, purely because I've not had the need to. :y
i bet they all say that ;)
did i kill the thread saying that ?
I must be getting old id rather have a bowl of soup (lasts longer) ;D
Doug
Lol, I'd be lying if I said the temptation wasn't there when walking around Amsterdam on a blokes weekend away... but the main things that stopped me, in this order probably, were
1) Already have a lovely girlfriend, couldn't hurt her and couldn't live with the guilt
2) Worry of contracting an STD (who's been there before you ;D )
3) Mates would take the p1ss forever...
4) Lack of cash!!
;D
Had similar thoughts when I was in Korea with one additional worry, what was actually under the covers? Eeeek!!
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Went there on my stag do and was doing a bit of window shopping (only window shopping, for largely the reasons James states).
A guy about my age and an older gentleman approach one of the windows and negotiate a deal whereby the younder guy stumps up some readies and wanders off with the words "I'll pick you up in half an hour, dad". :o
Seemed a slightly unusual father-son relationship to me. I'm more likely to see my Dad become the next F1 champion in his Volvo V70, TBH.
Kevin
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some of the points that have been made are really valid, especially about regulating the girls, their health and the financial elements, however.......
What about those girls who fall outside of anit would be so nice to have y criteria, but that i mean those who have been infected with an STD or something like HIV? in a legal environment i could envisage these girls being forced underground offering services that carry huge risks.....
then there is the 'taxable' element, given the governments love of stealth tax you can imagine them slapping some sort of 'shagging tax' this in turn drives up the cost of the girls and then we have a two-tier system, with those who cannot afford the 'clean girls' then venture into the underworld prostitution and so risks catching a serious disease.....
if only there was an easy solution.......the first part/challenge would be getting some sort of legislation in place
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Surely its better to visit a prostitute & pay for there services than go out & rape some poor girl on there way home from a club.
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Surely its better to visit a prostitute & pay for there services than go out & rape some poor girl on there way home from a club.
I doubt that really happens i mean its easy enought to go home and knock one out if you must
anyway if you go to a club and cant pull there must be something wrong with you ;D
trust me i make my living as a dj :y its easy
Doug
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I notice no one on this thread has "ever been with one"
which i find interesting on a thread with so much input ...
Doug
Lol... I personally never have, purely because I've not had the need to. :y
i bet they all say that ;)
did i kill the thread saying that ?
I must be getting old id rather have a bowl of soup (lasts longer) ;D
Doug
Lol, I'd be lying if I said the temptation wasn't there when walking around Amsterdam on a blokes weekend away... but the main things that stopped me, in this order probably, were
1) Already have a lovely girlfriend, couldn't hurt her and couldn't live with the guilt
2) Worry of contracting an STD (who's been there before you ;D )
3) Mates would take the p1ss forever...
4) Lack of cash!!
;D
Had similar thoughts when I was in Korea with one additional worry, what was actually under the covers? Eeeek!!
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1 a standing cock has no conscience ;)
2 it must be common practice to bag it before going near anyone these days?
3 mates would probably all be thinking the same once the first one went they would all go
4 there not expensive ( i googled )
i think they have their place
i also believe that casual sex or sex with a prostitute is fine if there is a need for it but i do think that everytime you bed someone you dont love you give up a little bit of yourself
i have a brother how is a male whore and i honestly think he is addicted to sex however i think he just likes the chase it does not mean anything to him and to me i would rather do without (is it cos im getting old?)
Doug
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Surely its better to visit a prostitute & pay for there services than go out & rape some poor girl on there way home from a club.
I doubt that really happens i mean its easy enought to go home and knock one out if you must
anyway if you go to a club and cant pull there must be something wrong with you ;D
trust me i make my living as a dj :y its easy
Doug
hmmm.........you have got to remember there is a whole section of society for who communicating with a member of the opposite sex if very difficult....for one reason or another, whether that be a physical, mental or communication disability/difficulty.......and sometimes 'rubbing one off' isn't enough, whist it may be a brief encounter a visit to a 'lady of the night' may be the physical contact they require
Doug - all my life i have struggled to just talk up to a complete stranger, male or female, i am incredibly shy, this is perceived as me being aloof by a lot of people, so maybe there is something wrong with me?
By here's the irony, in my job i stand in front of complete strangers and talk to them all day?
there has always been a argument that a visit to a 'lady' does stop some innocent woman becoming a rape victim, but that doesn't stop an innocent woman becoming a prostitiute
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there has always been a argument that a visit to a 'lady' does stop some innocent woman becoming a rape victim, but that doesn't stop an innocent woman becoming a prostitiute
Though in MOST (not all) cases, the innocent lady has a choice in the matter... whereas rape victims generally dont...?
Even if I was single I'd never, ever, take a girl home from a club and do anything on the first night.
Chances are she's had a few to drink, and the next thing you know you'll be in custody on suspicion of "taking advantage..." (regardless if you have also consumed a few!)
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there has always been a argument that a visit to a 'lady' does stop some innocent woman becoming a rape victim, but that doesn't stop an innocent woman becoming a prostitiute
Though in MOST (not all) cases, the innocent lady has a choice in the matter... whereas rape victims generally dont...?
Even if I was single I'd never, ever, take a girl home from a club and do anything on the first night.
Chances are she's had a few to drink, and the next thing you know you'll be in custody on suspicion of "taking advantage..." (regardless if you have also consumed a few!)
or married with kids like me ;D ;D ;D
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there has always been a argument that a visit to a 'lady' does stop some innocent woman becoming a rape victim, but that doesn't stop an innocent woman becoming a prostitiute
Though in MOST (not all) cases, the innocent lady has a choice in the matter... whereas rape victims generally dont...?
Even if I was single I'd never, ever, take a girl home from a club and do anything on the first night.
Chances are she's had a few to drink, and the next thing you know you'll be in custody on suspicion of "taking advantage..." (regardless if you have also consumed a few!)
not when the innocent has suffered abuse most of there memorable life and sees this as the only known way of life due to historics
there are so many way women get involved/sucked into prostitution, maybe they grew up in a violent household and have drifted into a similar relationship that has drugs as an additional element, maybe they got 'in with the wrong crowd' when they were younger and the drug habit has escalated, we could assume reasons for a lifetime, the fact is they are in the situation and many do not come out the other end.
James, you are no different to me, i wouldn't think of taking someone home after the first date, if i was out on a Saturday night it was generally with friends so going home without them was really considered.
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Surely its better to visit a prostitute & pay for there services than go out & rape some poor girl on there way home from a club.
I doubt that really happens i mean its easy enought to go home and knock one out if you must
so why do men pay for it instead of going home to "spank the monkey", which is free :question
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The funny thing about sex is we spend 9 months fighting to get out & the rest of our life trying to get back in.
When sex is good its brillient & when its bad its still pretty good.
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hmmm.........you have got to remember there is a whole section of society for who communicating with a member of the opposite sex if very difficult....for one reason or another, whether that be a physical, mental or communication disability/difficulty.......and sometimes 'rubbing one off' isn't enough, whist it may be a brief encounter a visit to a 'lady of the night' may be the physical contact they require
Doug - all my life i have struggled to just talk up to a complete stranger, male or female, i am incredibly shy, this is perceived as me being aloof by a lot of people, so maybe there is something wrong with me?
By here's the irony, in my job i stand in front of complete strangers and talk to them all day?
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Thats a tough one to get my head around someone who has problems approaching others but spends his day talking to strangers ..
so you can do it you choose not to ???
with regards "maybe there is something wrong with me "I dont know you to answer that but there could be i just dont know.
fair comment that not everyone is blessed with good communication skills and a bit of the chat
Pulling birds is something i found to be easy and i look like ive been set on fire and put out with a shovel :y
taking them home on the first night has never been a problem for me(in the past married and 2 kids now) and i never got accussed or raping anyone
I do take onboard that there is a small minority of people who could benefit from a prozzer
i think it would be safer if it were legal the ladies would be given medical checks, they would be safer' and they would pay income tax too
tho i still dont think its something i think the majority of us need
I honestly think i would feel dirty if i had shagged a prostitute even if i was single
Doug
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hmmm.........you have got to remember there is a whole section of society for who communicating with a member of the opposite sex if very difficult....for one reason or another, whether that be a physical, mental or communication disability/difficulty.......and sometimes 'rubbing one off' isn't enough, whist it may be a brief encounter a visit to a 'lady of the night' may be the physical contact they require
Doug - all my life i have struggled to just talk up to a complete stranger, male or female, i am incredibly shy, this is perceived as me being aloof by a lot of people, so maybe there is something wrong with me?
By here's the irony, in my job i stand in front of complete strangers and talk to them all day?
Thats a tough one to get my head around someone who has problems approaching others but spends his day talking to strangers ..
so you can do it you choose not to ???
with regards "maybe there is something wrong with me "I dont know you to answer that but there could be i just dont know.
fair comment that not everyone is blessed with good communication skills and a bit of the chat
Pulling birds is something i found to be easy and i look like ive been set on fire and put out with a shovel :y
taking them home on the first night has never been a problem for me(in the past married and 2 kids now) and i never got accussed or raping anyone
I do take onboard that there is a small minority of people who could benefit from a prozzer
i think it would be safer if it were legal the ladies would be given medical checks, they would be safer' and they would pay income tax too
tho i still dont think its something i think the majority of us need
I honestly think i would feel dirty if i had shagged a prostitute even if i was single
Doug
i struggle geting my head round it and i have to live with it......
i think it comes down to confidence and self confidence, i am confident about my work, know what i am doing there but have little self confidence.....
that's about the best way of describing it ;)