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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: STMO123 on 19 November 2008, 22:30:15
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Just had a look at this BNP membership list. It would take an age to trawl through it so if you fess up now it will save me staying up all night. :y
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heard on the news today that plod are banned from BNP membership,cant undeerstand why,they may be distasteful etc;but not an illegal party. :-/
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i looked earlier but cant find the list, want to see if anyone i know on there
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i looked earlier but cant find the list, want to see if anyone i know on there
Email sent.
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:y :y
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Not me, no interest in most of what they are about.
Actually I did check in case there was another person with the same name. There wasn't.
Which is a releif, coz I reckon the lot of them will be classed as terrorists once the media have spent a week hyperventilating over it. ;D ;D ;D
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thats one long list. shall have a gander tomorrow :y
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Well my name should be on but it aint! :o
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Someone local to me on it.
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heard on the news today that plod are banned from BNP membership,cant undeerstand why,they may be distasteful etc;but not an illegal party. :-/
I agree. It's the thin end of the wedge. If the BNP is regarded by the media as distasteful, which it may well be though I haven't ever studied their manifesto, then how distasteful is a ban on anyone having a political opinion? The latter is more insidious, IMHO.. >:(
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Have you found my name on it yet. ::)
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No one called Elite Pete ;D
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BTW I don't like the policies on "repatriation", where do mixed race people go?
A young Sikh I know has been to India and hated it - he liked it in the country of his birth and would rather stay here.
Mind you who would run the Indian takeaways?
My other big dislike is their economic policies - too left wing for me
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heard on the news today that plod are banned from BNP membership,cant undeerstand why,they may be distasteful etc;but not an illegal party. :-/
I agree. It's the thin end of the wedge. If the BNP is regarded by the media as distasteful, which it may well be though I haven't ever studied their manifesto, then how distasteful is a ban on anyone having a political opinion? The latter is more insidious, IMHO.. >:(
they are more than distateful, they go against any sense of impartiality and fairness that Britain has - of course you shouldn't be allowed to hold extreme views and be a cop - not only does it show a distinct lack of intelligence, it denies the right of EVERY citizen to be accorded fair, even-handed treatment - if you are blatantly prejudiced against large sections of the community then you cannot do your job as a cop.
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One thing I will say - banning them would be stupid and irresponsible - who do you ban next? Thin end of a wedge. Here they are all in one place!
They will never be more than a fringe party like the Communists, Respect (haha), and Monster Raving Loo Knees.
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currently looking through the list -if any cop in Perth is on it - I'm complaining to the Chief Superintendent - may pop in and see him if I have the time ;)
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Any chance of a copy please? They've taken it off the blog site.
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im not posting a link or "pm"ing it - but a simple search in google found it in a few seconds...put it that way
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mention in dispatches to the guy who, underneath his address states he is in the services:intelligence corps - lol not anymore you're not m8 - unless you move quickly of course :y
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im not posting a link or "pm"ing it - but a simple search in google found it in a few seconds...put it that way
It has been removed from blogspot.
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Now, call me controversial. And im not going to say i am not a racist ( as it could be argued that anyone on here that has an issue with the Immigration issues we haev is a racist)
But....this is a really disgusting state of affairs and breach of freedom and free speech.
I think more should be made of the DPA breaches and finding WHO let the list out than persecuting those that are on it.
And no i am not on it ;D
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fk em - its the bnp - an organisation who regularly target email addresses bombarding them with foul-racism and race-hate filth -
payback's a bee-atch aint it? ;D ;D ;D
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heard on the news today that plod are banned from BNP membership,cant undeerstand why,they may be distasteful etc;but not an illegal party. :-/
I agree. It's the thin end of the wedge. If the BNP is regarded by the media as distasteful, which it may well be though I haven't ever studied their manifesto, then how distasteful is a ban on anyone having a political opinion? The latter is more insidious, IMHO.. >:(
they are more than distateful, they go against any sense of impartiality and fairness that Britain has - of course you shouldn't be allowed to hold extreme views and be a cop - not only does it show a distinct lack of intelligence, it denies the right of EVERY citizen to be accorded fair, even-handed treatment - if you are blatantly prejudiced against large sections of the community then you cannot do your job as a cop.
Sorry, but that's illogical bannjax. Any person can hold extremist views. Preventing them being a member of a political party does not take away their extremist views. What you're saying is that a cop who is a member of the BNP will be prejudiced against large sections of the community, while a cop who isn't a member (but still holds extremist views) won't be.
Indeed, it could be argued that a cop who is known to hold extremist views will be less of a problem than the cop who is secrtly holds such views.
It is the use of laws in these ways that causes problems. A law will not change a person's views...only education and peer-pressure will do that. Laws designed to remove prejudice merely remove the problem from view, they do not destroy it.
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heard on the news today that plod are banned from BNP membership,cant undeerstand why,they may be distasteful etc;but not an illegal party. :-/
I agree. It's the thin end of the wedge. If the BNP is regarded by the media as distasteful, which it may well be though I haven't ever studied their manifesto, then how distasteful is a ban on anyone having a political opinion? The latter is more insidious, IMHO.. >:(
they are more than distateful, they go against any sense of impartiality and fairness that Britain has - of course you shouldn't be allowed to hold extreme views and be a cop - not only does it show a distinct lack of intelligence, it denies the right of EVERY citizen to be accorded fair, even-handed treatment - if you are blatantly prejudiced against large sections of the community then you cannot do your job as a cop.
Sorry, but that's illogical bannjax. Any person can hold extremist views. Preventing them being a member of a political party does not take away their extremist views. What you're saying is that a cop who is a member of the BNP will be prejudiced against large sections of the community, while a cop who isn't a member (but still holds extremist views) won't be.
Indeed, it could be argued that a cop who is known to hold extremist views will be less of a problem than the cop who is secrtly holds such views.
It is the use of laws in these ways that causes problems. A law will not change a person's views...only education and peer-pressure will do that. Laws designed to remove prejudice merely remove the problem from view, they do not destroy it.
good point nickbat - but someone willing to join the BNP and show such ill-judgement doesn't make a good cop imo
racists are easy to spot - they're never the smartest guys in the room - sorry if i sound elitist but in my experience, there are very few, if any, intelligent racists
and on extremist views - listen to the BNP justify their racism - its our right to free speech, its our right to believe what we want
funny how extremists turn all liberal when they're backs are against the wall eh?
hold any view you like - just dont expect society to have the same views, and don't expect to be able to do any job you like
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wikileaks appears interesting if up
I have met racists - two of them - together their intelligence equalled that of a fart.
Just sat there moaning that all the immigrants had taken their jobs with quite a few tasteless comments for other races, until they were reminded the reason they were unemployed was because they were completely thick.
Most people with more intelligence than an amoeba realise that you must take every person as an individual.
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currently looking through the list -if any cop in Perth is on it - I'm complaining to the Chief Superintendent - may pop in and see him if I have the time ;)
Are you in the job - what do you do?
I remember when I joined up I had to declare on my papersift whether or not I was a member of BNP - the question was asked outright on the application form!
I must be honest, in as much as I don't know enough about the BNP and what it does to make an informed judgement on this thread - but I gather their views are prejudiced against certain sections of the community, so I doubt it would be appropriate for a Police Officer to be a member, given that he or she has sworn to treat everyone with fairness and impartiality :-?
I personally believe it's right that Police cannot be members of any party with an extreme view against certain people. For exactly the same reason that people cannot (usually) become Police officers if they've had certain past convictions, etc. It's just not appropriate -
It's not discrimination in my opinion - it would be in some occupations, but with the Police I think it's just a case of selecting people who can meet the necessary criteria to do the job and uphold the oath?
As an aside, did you hear about the cop who was hauled in front of Professional Standards recently because he was seen wearing a BNP badge off duty?
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currently looking through the list -if any cop in Perth is on it - I'm complaining to the Chief Superintendent - may pop in and see him if I have the time ;)
Are you in the job - what do you do?
I remember when I joined up I had to declare on my papersift whether or not I was a member of BNP - the question was asked outright on the application form!
I must be honest, in as much as I don't know enough about the BNP and what it does to make an informed judgement on this thread - but I gather their views are prejudiced against certain sections of the community, so I doubt it would be appropriate for a Police Officer to be a member, given that he or she has sworn to treat everyone with fairness and impartiality :-?
I personally believe it's right that Police cannot be members of any party with an extreme view against certain people. For exactly the same reason that people cannot (usually) become Police officers if they've had certain past convictions, etc. It's just not appropriate -
It's not discrimination in my opinion - it would be in some occupations, but with the Police I think it's just a case of selecting people who can meet the necessary criteria to do the job and uphold the oath?
As an aside, did you hear about the cop who was hauled in front of Professional Standards recently because he was seen wearing a BNP badge off duty?
Tend to agree here, when I was still playing 'hobby-bobby' it was made VERY clear to us that as in all professions, being in the force in any capacity means the rules were a little more elastic but stretch them too far and the backlash would really really hurt. While there are exceptions everywhere, to be a police officer you should be (and appear to be) impartial which takes a saint to do properly, ask any copper who has to deal with the same group of 'gentlemen' week after week for anti-social behaviour where no matter how often they are arrested they get little more than a slapped wrist and spend less time off the streets that the copper does while he fills out the paperwork.
Bitter? twisted? moi? oddly enough no
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My vetting was very, very thorough...
I won't go into details on a public forum for obvious reasons, but prior to my appointment I had to have a meeting with a Superintendent, to discuss a time when I was rather naughty at school.. that's how far back they go!
Apparently cautions/convictions etc that would normally become spent under the Rehab of Offenders Act 74, are never really spent when joining certain positions...
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are plod banned from joining "extreme" left wing groups such as the socalists workers party ?
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Saw a talksport dj got the tintack because his name was on the list
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Not a list that I shall ever appear on, the fundaments of a British party is ideal to keep Britain and British people BRITISH, this includes ALL people born in Britain, whatever colour or religion. I personally have many ethnic friends with equal respect for each other. I detest the activist side of the BNP, it's very wrong, it's almost anarchic. The best thing that the BNP could do to exercise their mandate strategy to instil a points system for entry to the country and to make idle ba5tards claiming benefit get off their lard ar5es and sweep the streets.
:-XDC :-X
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Saw a talksport dj got the tintack because his name was on the list
I do hope they consulted lawyers....or checked his contract first....
I think thats shocking to lose a job because of "private" & personal opinions and thoughts >:( Especially when the individual iws not in any law making, political or judicial profession.
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currently looking through the list -if any cop in Perth is on it - I'm complaining to the Chief Superintendent - may pop in and see him if I have the time ;)
Are you in the job - what do you do?
I remember when I joined up I had to declare on my papersift whether or not I was a member of BNP - the question was asked outright on the application form!
I must be honest, in as much as I don't know enough about the BNP and what it does to make an informed judgement on this thread - but I gather their views are prejudiced against certain sections of the community, so I doubt it would be appropriate for a Police Officer to be a member, given that he or she has sworn to treat everyone with fairness and impartiality :-?
I personally believe it's right that Police cannot be members of any party with an extreme view against certain people. For exactly the same reason that people cannot (usually) become Police officers if they've had certain past convictions, etc. It's just not appropriate -
It's not discrimination in my opinion - it would be in some occupations, but with the Police I think it's just a case of selecting people who can meet the necessary criteria to do the job and uphold the oath?
As an aside, did you hear about the cop who was hauled in front of Professional Standards recently because he was seen wearing a BNP badge off duty?
I'm not in the job James - just a concerned citizen!! :-/
anyway, there was only one who admits to being a cop in the area and he's retired - so he can believe what he likes
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Not a list that I shall ever appear on, the fundaments of a British party is ideal to keep Britain and British people BRITISH, this includes ALL people born in Britain, whatever colour or religion. I personally have many ethnic friends with equal respect for each other. I detest the activist side of the BNP, it's very wrong, it's almost anarchic. The best thing that the BNP could do to exercise their mandate strategy to instil a points system for entry to the country and to make idle ba5tards claiming benefit get off their lard ar5es and sweep the streets.
:-XDC :-X
does that include white, british lard ar5es?
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Saw a talksport dj got the tintack because his name was on the list
I do hope they consulted lawyers....or checked his contract first....
I think thats shocking to lose a job because of "private" & personal opinions and thoughts >:( Especially when the individual iws not in any law making, political or judicial profession.
Used to be known as Mcarthyism in the U.S. known as a witch hunt elsewhere,very dangerous in a so called free country.
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Found it. Mixed feelings all round. I like the British Bulldog train of thought but things change & we have to change with them. Listening to the truck wireless today i heard Leicester is to become so multi racial that ALL ethnics will be minorities, including white brits, it's become that diverse now, so provided everyone works & pays in we may as well get on with it.
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Not a list that I shall ever appear on, the fundaments of a British party is ideal to keep Britain and British people BRITISH, this includes ALL people born in Britain, whatever colour or religion. I personally have many ethnic friends with equal respect for each other. I detest the activist side of the BNP, it's very wrong, it's almost anarchic. The best thing that the BNP could do to exercise their mandate strategy to instil a points system for entry to the country and to make idle ba5tards claiming benefit get off their lard ar5es and sweep the streets.
:-XDC :-X
does that include white, british lard ar5es?
My comments are predominantly directed at just the white brit lard arses.... there are very few of ethnic persuasion that I know who are idle, they all earn a crust :y
Think I've probably diversified on this topic somewhat, but, it's all connected..
DC ;)
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Found it. Mixed feelings all round. I like the British Bulldog train of thought but things change & we have to change with them. Listening to the truck wireless today i heard Leicester is to become so multi racial that ALL ethnics will be minorities, including white brits, it's become that diverse now, so provided everyone works & pays in we may as well get on with it.
Large numbers of non whites consider themselves British and I am happy for them to be British.
Better than the two racists I met 16 years ago with less IQ than my farts
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I have no views on the BNP, however about 25 year ago I was very raciest, but that was due to my upbringing.
I was brought up in South Africa, I was educated there and so from a young age knew no better, we lived in an area that ws surrounded by townships that were lived in by the true natives of south Africa.
This was the mid-late 70's then apartheid was getting on for its worse,
We came back in the early 80's by this time there was an undercurrent of racial tension in places like St Pauls, Brixton and the likes
When I started school I nearly started a huge fight, on the first day in the dinner queue there was a coloured kid who was in front of me.....Not for long, the words 'oi n****r get n the queue for the kaffers' went down like a lead fart and all hell broke loose.....
I had to learn equality pretty quickly, and that education started in the headmasters office about 10 mins after I started a fight that I didn't get involved with.
Within a very short space of time I learnt equality and tolerance, something that was unheard of in S.A. nowadays I have a lot of respect for people how have moved into a different country, away from what they know, and have worked/are working to make a better life for themselves, and even enriched our lives as well.
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Many people have said that - and I quote - " NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A SERVING POLICE OFFICER TO BE A MEMBER OF THE BNP "
If that is true,why are some officers allowed to be members of the Black Police Federation ? That is a truly racist organisation isn't it ?
A police officer from Merseyside has been suspended as his name was on the list.
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Many people have said that - and I quote - " NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A SERVING POLICE OFFICER TO BE A MEMBER OF THE BNP "
If that is true,why are some officers allowed to be members of the Black Police Federation ? That is a truly racist organisation isn't it ?
A police officer from Merseyside has been suspended as his name was on the list.
This worries me to but are they trying to export people?
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Many people have said that - and I quote - " NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A SERVING POLICE OFFICER TO BE A MEMBER OF THE BNP "
If that is true,why are some officers allowed to be members of the Black Police Federation ? That is a truly racist organisation isn't it ?
A police officer from Merseyside has been suspended as his name was on the list.
Because the number of serving BME (Black, minority ethnic) Police Officers is considerably less than white officers. It's purely there to support Black people in achieving the same opportunities - I don't think it has a racist element.
I still maintain my view that a supporter of the BNP wouldn't be a good choice as a copper..
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Many people have said that - and I quote - " NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A SERVING POLICE OFFICER TO BE A MEMBER OF THE BNP "
If that is true,why are some officers allowed to be members of the Black Police Federation ? That is a truly racist organisation isn't it ?
A police officer from Merseyside has been suspended as his name was on the list.
This worries me to but are they trying to export people?
It exists to protect/enhance/support a group of people based purely on the colour of thier skin which to me is racist by definition.
They also strongly supported that idot who is suing the Met. for racism because he didnt get the top job,which to me shows that they have an agenda at the extreme end of the nonsensical "positive discrimination" argument.
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I think all this racist stuff has gone over the top >:(