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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: matt-sboro on 09 December 2008, 09:11:09
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this may look like a begging post but its not trust me...
recently i've wondered why i bother to go to work every morning and work bloody hard for my £27k + overtime a year when i could sponge off the country and get everything for free.
my mrs doesnt work becuase of the new baby but she didnt work before due to moving to a new area then getting pregnant.
now i am fully aware if i couldnt afford a baby then i should have been more careful - but thats not my point.
my mrs has a little boy by a previous partner who i think pays £12 a week (although his family is minted) so all she gets is child benefit.
i've recently wanted to get the cavity wall insulation done and bearing in mind my budget is pretty stretched at the moment £200 is alot to shell out when i could be spending that helping to clear a few loans off.
why is it that the sponging can work but wont work population manage to get everything for free no questions asked but when someone who has paid alot into the goverment coffers through tax cant manage to get a small sum waived to get cavity wall insulation.
apparantly i earn too much....£1500 between 2 adults and 2 children after tax doesnt go very far when £850 of that goes straight on a mortgage and nearly £120 of that on council tax.
just because i earn my money for a living rather than sitting on my arse watching jeremy kyle all day i am branded one of the many workers who the goverment can monthly rape on the 15th of each month :-[
rant over!
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Couldn't agree more.
A few years back, when I was paying around 40% tax, I was made redundant from a well paid job, fully expensed exec car etc etc. I signed on and received in total £2K in benefits back from the Govt over a 12 months period!!
I was paying nearly that amount in tax per month when working!!
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Simply if you think you can have the lifestyle and feeling of satisfaction that you can enjoy on a £27k+ salary when on benefits, then try it! :o :o :o
Believe me, when I was briefly unemployed 'between jobs' a few years back no way did the misery of trying to live on £54 cash in your hand per week make up for the spending power of what I was on then, £35k+!!
Don't forget people on benifits of Job Seekers Allowance will get Housing and Rates Benifits, but that is NOT cash in hand, but paid directly to the Council/landlord.
This myth that people are driving around in luxury cars, living in executive houses, and enjoying numerous holidays abroad per year is just that; a myth!! ::) ::)
Those on genuine benefits (and not committing benifit fraud!!) are just living on what the Government states they "need to live on", no more, no less!! ;)
But, if you really think you can gain from being on benefits, then try it! ::) ::) ::)
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Hey mate i know exactly what you mean. I was made redundant in oct (after being in work for 26 years) & the bloody lengths you have to go to just get what you deserve, whilst the sponges around where i live have their feet up & sitting pretty. There's a guy just up the road from me, he's supposed to have some thing wrong with his head/brain, doesn't stop him from walking the dog, going shopping, with me being outa work too i see alot of him & it's clear there's nothing wrong with him (just bloody idol). Then there's the other lad next door to him, perfrectly capable of working, but doesn't. It makes me really angry & i have to not think about it, because when i see them, placid Pete wants to punch them in the face.
Still i can hold my head up high, because i can't wait until the 5th of Jan & then i can say what's mine is earnt again :y :y :y :y
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Don't forget people on benifits of Job Seekers Allowance will get Housing and Rates Benifits, but that is NOT cash in hand, but paid directly to the Council/landlord. .......
I'm not sure that's right anymore :-/ Elite Pete's the one to ask, I thought it was against their 'uman rights to not be given the money to pay their landlord themselves .......
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Simply if you think you can have the lifestyle and feeling of satisfaction that you can enjoy on a £27k+ salary when on benefits, then try it! :o :o :o
Believe me, when I was briefly unemployed 'between jobs' a few years back no way did the misery of trying to live on £54 cash in your hand per week make up for the spending power of what I was on then, £35k+!!
Don't forget people on benifits of Job Seekers Allowance will get Housing and Rates Benifits, but that is NOT cash in hand, but paid directly to the Council/landlord.
This myth that people are driving around in luxury cars, living in executive houses, and enjoying numerous holidays abroad per year is just that; a myth!! ::) ::)
Those on genuine benefits (and not committing benifit fraud!!) are just living on what the Government states they "need to live on", no more, no less!! ;)
But, if you really think you can gain from being on benefits, then try it! ::) ::) ::)
JSA is around the £60.00 a week mark, the council tax is paid by the council. It's true Lizzie, you do get used to the wage every week & you certainly miss it when it's gone, but i never live beyond my means. I've had to buy cheaper food products which goes against my healthy life style morals, but it's not for long :)
What gets me the most is, how they expect someone to eat, pay gas, elec, phone (in my case phones) water rates & buy news papers to look for jobs on that amount. Then you have to find enough to pay for your travelling expenses to interviews, stamps for CV's etc & all out of £60.00. I'd like to see an MP live on that & do all that i've had to do. SREKNAW >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Had a bit of experience of the benifits sysrem a few months back.
I drew the conclusion that if you are prepared to lie and know how to play the system you could do reasonably well.
you need to con a doctor into going down the incapacity/disabled/carer route on your behalf and then there is enough money available to make quite a few jobs not worthwhile bothering with.
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this may look like a begging post but its not trust me...
recently i've wondered why i bother to go to work every morning and work bloody hard for my £27k + overtime a year when i could sponge off the country and get everything for free.
my mrs doesnt work becuase of the new baby but she didnt work before due to moving to a new area then getting pregnant.
now i am fully aware if i couldnt afford a baby then i should have been more careful - but thats not my point.
my mrs has a little boy by a previous partner who i think pays £12 a week (although his family is minted) so all she gets is child benefit.
i've recently wanted to get the cavity wall insulation done and bearing in mind my budget is pretty stretched at the moment £200 is alot to shell out when i could be spending that helping to clear a few loans off.
why is it that the sponging can work but wont work population manage to get everything for free no questions asked but when someone who has paid alot into the goverment coffers through tax cant manage to get a small sum waived to get cavity wall insulation.
apparantly i earn too much....£1500 between 2 adults and 2 children after tax doesnt go very far when £850 of that goes straight on a mortgage and nearly £120 of that on council tax.
just because i earn my money for a living rather than sitting on my arse watching jeremy kyle all day i am branded one of the many workers who the goverment can monthly rape on the 15th of each month :-[
rant over!
From the little I have seen of his programme, watching it IS a hard day's work !!! :o
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this may look like a begging post but its not trust me...
recently i've wondered why i bother to go to work every morning and work bloody hard for my £27k + overtime a year when i could sponge off the country and get everything for free.
my mrs doesnt work becuase of the new baby but she didnt work before due to moving to a new area then getting pregnant.
now i am fully aware if i couldnt afford a baby then i should have been more careful - but thats not my point.
my mrs has a little boy by a previous partner who i think pays £12 a week (although his family is minted) so all she gets is child benefit.
i've recently wanted to get the cavity wall insulation done and bearing in mind my budget is pretty stretched at the moment £200 is alot to shell out when i could be spending that helping to clear a few loans off.
why is it that the sponging can work but wont work population manage to get everything for free no questions asked but when someone who has paid alot into the goverment coffers through tax cant manage to get a small sum waived to get cavity wall insulation.
apparantly i earn too much....£1500 between 2 adults and 2 children after tax doesnt go very far when £850 of that goes straight on a mortgage and nearly £120 of that on council tax.
just because i earn my money for a living rather than sitting on my arse watching jeremy kyle all day i am branded one of the many workers who the goverment can monthly rape on the 15th of each month :-[
rant over!
From the little I have seen of his programme, watching it IS a hard day's work !!! :o
Agreed. Only watched it a couple of times & every guest (loose word) they have on seems to an inbred of many generations
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Simply if you think you can have the lifestyle and feeling of satisfaction that you can enjoy on a £27k+ salary when on benefits, then try it! :o :o :o
Believe me, when I was briefly unemployed 'between jobs' a few years back no way did the misery of trying to live on £54 cash in your hand per week make up for the spending power of what I was on then, £35k+!!
Don't forget people on benifits of Job Seekers Allowance will get Housing and Rates Benifits, but that is NOT cash in hand, but paid directly to the Council/landlord.
This myth that people are driving around in luxury cars, living in executive houses, and enjoying numerous holidays abroad per year is just that; a myth!! ::) ::)
Those on genuine benefits (and not committing benifit fraud!!) are just living on what the Government states they "need to live on", no more, no less!! ;)
But, if you really think you can gain from being on benefits, then try it! ::) ::) ::)
JSA is around the £60.00 a week mark, the council tax is paid by the council. It's true Lizzie, you do get used to the wage every week & you certainly miss it when it's gone, but i never live beyond my means. I've had to buy cheaper food products which goes against my healthy life style morals, but it's not for long :)
What gets me the most is, how they expect someone to eat, pay gas, elec, phone (in my case phones) water rates & buy news papers to look for jobs on that amount. Then you have to find enough to pay for your travelling expenses to interviews, stamps for CV's etc & all out of £60.00. I'd like to see an MP live on that & do all that i've had to do. SREKNAW >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
what does srekaw stand for :question
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what does srekaw stand for :question
C'mon Zippy ... keep up! ;) ;) ;) ;)
Look at it backwards! :y :y :y
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what does srekaw stand for :question
C'mon Zippy ... keep up! ;) ;) ;) ;)
Look at it backwards! :y :y :y
I'll get me coat :-[ :-[ :D :D
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Contributions-based Job Seekers Allowance is £60.50 per week. If you want any other benefits, they're means tested.
My wife still has her (fairly well-paid) teaching job, so all I get is the JSA. Some come down from the £2200 per month net that I was earning before I got made redundant. Out of that I was paying over £900 for the mortgage, £100 gas/electricity, £200 council tax and loads of other stuff. Don't get any help with that. :(
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Simply if you think you can have the lifestyle and feeling of satisfaction that you can enjoy on a £27k+ salary when on benefits, then try it! :o :o :o
Believe me, when I was briefly unemployed 'between jobs' a few years back no way did the misery of trying to live on £54 cash in your hand per week make up for the spending power of what I was on then, £35k+!!
Don't forget people on benifits of Job Seekers Allowance will get Housing and Rates Benifits, but that is NOT cash in hand, but paid directly to the Council/landlord.
This myth that people are driving around in luxury cars, living in executive houses, and enjoying numerous holidays abroad per year is just that; a myth!! ::) ::)
Those on genuine benefits (and not committing benifit fraud!!) are just living on what the Government states they "need to live on", no more, no less!! ;)
But, if you really think you can gain from being on benefits, then try it! ::) ::) ::)
Lizzie is correct on this one.
There will always be a small number of people who will take advantage of the benefits system.............and the right wing press make big play about all these super rich people driving around in big cars and generally living a wealthy lifestyle. :-/
But ..........by and large it is just sensationalism.......... designed to appeal to the elderly blue rinse tory voter ......and Daily Express reader.
I would say that most people on benefits "get by" but little more than that. :(
We certainly have a growing underclass in this country ........some perhaps........ even many.......... who have never worked.....and this is a problem that needs to be looked at . :'( :'(
In summary .....I would say that being on long term benefits is not a viable alternative to work............if you wish to live a prosperous life. :y :y :y :y
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my x wifes next door neighbour was fiddling for 5 yrs, estimated benefit fraud was 44000 sign off or were take you to court, thats all they said. she now pays it back at £10 a week i think.
dirty stinking pissshead below me gets extra payments for being an alcoholic.
when the goverment pamper the shite and penalise the innocent for being out of work. it does not pay being honest and hardworking
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just wish i was on 27k
makes me and my poor 16k look pittifull but its true what he says
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im certainly not saying that i earn a poor amount.... on its own its a very good salary - but when that is the only salary to support 2 adults and 2 kids living in my own house and paying council tax it doesnt go far. and all i want is some cavity wall insulation that they are throwing at everybody else for just a signature.
and i aint saying im happy to live on this amount - i'm just saying i work bloody hard with not alot to show - you can see why the spongers do it to get housing benefit, council tax paid for, free school meals, vouchers for shopping, benefit for every kid they throw out
its about time the goverment started to support the backbone of the country who put alot of money in, rather than the can work wont work tossers
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my x wifes next door neighbour was fiddling for 5 yrs, estimated benefit fraud was 44000 sign off or were take you to court, thats all they said. she now pays it back at £10 a week i think.
dirty stinking pissshead below me gets extra payments for being an alcoholic.
when the goverment pamper the shite and penalise the innocent for being out of work. it does not pay being honest and hardworking
>:( >:( >:(
Nice neighbours you have Richie. ::) ::) :y
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12 flats here only 2 are wasters, pisshead and the wierdo on the 1st floor, she looks about 12 has a young baby and lives in the dark :-?
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im certainly not saying that i earn a poor amount.... on its own its a very good salary - but when that is the only salary to support 2 adults and 2 kids living in my own house and paying council tax it doesnt go far. and all i want is some cavity wall insulation that they are throwing at everybody else for just a signature.
and i aint saying im happy to live on this amount - i'm just saying i work bloody hard with not alot to show - you can see why the spongers do it to get housing benefit, council tax paid for, free school meals, vouchers for shopping, benefit for every kid they throw out
its about time the goverment started to support the backbone of the country who put alot of money in, rather than the can work wont work tossers
ive always said that child benefit up to 2 children, you want anymore than that, you pay for them. not the taxpayer. why should i pay for someone to have half a dozen kids for 16 yrs.
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im certainly not saying that i earn a poor amount.... on its own its a very good salary - but when that is the only salary to support 2 adults and 2 kids living in my own house and paying council tax it doesnt go far. and all i want is some cavity wall insulation that they are throwing at everybody else for just a signature.
and i aint saying im happy to live on this amount - i'm just saying i work bloody hard with not alot to show - you can see why the spongers do it to get housing benefit, council tax paid for, free school meals, vouchers for shopping, benefit for every kid they throw out
its about time the goverment started to support the backbone of the country who put alot of money in, rather than the can work wont work tossers
Easy one this ;)
Move out for a few months....(where could be a problem ::) )
Rent your house to someone you know on benefits.....(you get a max of around £550/month iirc in rent from housing dept)
Then apply for cavity wall insulation grant.......coz the renter is on benifets you'll get 100% grant :y :D
Once its done, chuck em out and move back in :y
(tho you have to give em 2 months written notice)
Ok.....probably not an option......but its one way to get it free ;)
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lol i might move my nan in for bit!
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you can get up to £500 for "improvements" depending on the age of your baby.
It should be in the back of the baby book you got from the midwife under benefits :y ;)
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im certainly not saying that i earn a poor amount.... on its own its a very good salary - but when that is the only salary to support 2 adults and 2 kids living in my own house and paying council tax it doesnt go far. and all i want is some cavity wall insulation that they are throwing at everybody else for just a signature.
and i aint saying im happy to live on this amount - i'm just saying i work bloody hard with not alot to show - you can see why the spongers do it to get housing benefit, council tax paid for, free school meals, vouchers for shopping, benefit for every kid they throw out
its about time the goverment started to support the backbone of the country who put alot of money in, rather than the can work wont work tossers
ive always said that child benefit up to 2 children, you want anymore than that, you pay for them. not the taxpayer. why should i pay for someone to have half a dozen kids for 16 yrs.
I was discussing just that with mrs ians this evening. Apparently that witch that staged the kidnap of her daughter was raking child benefit in for having seven kids (I have not seen the news recently so this may be completely wrong). IAfter the first couple she should know where they come from and take responsibility. I don't see why I or any other tax payer should automatically be subsidising them.
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OP - just bear in mind, some people would be over the moon to be on 27k a year plus overtime.
I take around the 25 mark as a basic and I consider myself very fortunate, when I see so many jobs advertised at 14k, etc!
Have you seen the situation in Africa? They'd give their right arm for a fraction of what you get.
I know it's not financially easy, it's not for me either - but just remember, there are always many, many worse off than you are ;) :y
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OP - just bear in mind, some people would be over the moon to be on 27k a year plus overtime.
I take around the 25 mark as a basic and I consider myself very fortunate, when I see so many jobs advertised at 14k, etc!
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So would SWMBO. From ages back hers & all the local councils jobs have been 're-evaluated' and she's likely to go from around £19K to £14 and a bitK. It would have been about £14.5K but as a lot of people have been 'sucessfull in their apeals' the council have moved the goal posts back and reduced the projected wages!! HTF Unison have allowed that to happen is beyond me.
OP .... £850 mortgage! :o :o & I'm moaning about my daughter's uni accomodation of around a grand a term! ;) :y :y
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Had a bit of experience of the benifits sysrem a few months back.
I drew the conclusion that if you are prepared to lie and know how to play the system you could do reasonably well.
you need to con a doctor into going down the incapacity/disabled/carer route on your behalf and then there is enough money available to make quite a few jobs not worthwhile bothering with.[quote]
Sorry can you explain that one....?
My mum was declared unfit too work due too reasons that are personal and was placed on Incapacity benefit....she received the grand total of £78 a week.
Part of that she had too use too pay water rates so about £65 ish she was given too live on...luckily she didnt mind being cold so the gas wasnt much and she would only have on the very basics TV..kettle used just too boil 1 cup of water (shall i go on >:()
Luckily ive mostly been in a position too help her out with bills (dont forget bills/debts aint suddenly wiped out when you start receiving benefits) so she avoided the humiliation of being dragged through the courts due too not having enough money too pay them.
So id really love too hear how by conning the doctor (you've of course had a doctors assessment done yes...??? so you"ll know just how tough they are yes..???) your awarded this that and the other.
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benefits seems to be a mute point with a lot of people these days, especially as things are getting harder and harder for people on a financial level....
My wife was earning about 20K when she was working, she has been off on the sick now for 3 years and just been signed off for another 6 months, due to her illness (M.E.) it does not look like she will return to work for the forseeable future either.
She is very lucky, her work are still paying 50% of her salary, in addition she gets disability living allowance at the lower level, i believe that is about £30 a week, a helpers allowance, another £30 a week and she has a blue badge.
She feel guilty taking this because of the stigma attached to benefits, she has worked all her life and so has paid into the 'benefit pot' in fact she still pays tax and NI on the 50% she receives from her company.
My view is, if you are genuinely entitled to it, bloody well take it, the social system was put together to help those who are in need.
hve you looked at....
http://www.ukhomeinsulation.co.uk/?gclid=CPPJlOi2tJcCFQ4i3godvRMKkA
or
http://www.freeinsulation.co.uk/
i have looked at both of those and whilst they do not offer 100% it does appear there is a chance you may get something paid for......
good luck
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benefits seems to be a mute point with a lot of people these days, especially as things are getting harder and harder for people on a financial level....
My wife was earning about 20K when she was working, she has been off on the sick now for 3 years and just been signed off for another 6 months, due to her illness (M.E.) it does not look like she will return to work for the forseeable future either.
She is very lucky, her work are still paying 50% of her salary, in addition she gets disability living allowance at the lower level, i believe that is about £30 a week, a helpers allowance, another £30 a week and she has a blue badge.
She feel guilty taking this because of the stigma attached to benefits, she has worked all her life and so has paid into the 'benefit pot' in fact she still pays tax and NI on the 50% she receives from her company.
My view is, if you are genuinely entitled to it, bloody well take it, the social system was put together to help those who are in need.
hve you looked at....
http://www.ukhomeinsulation.co.uk/?gclid=CPPJlOi2tJcCFQ4i3godvRMKkA
or
http://www.freeinsulation.co.uk/
i have looked at both of those and whilst they do not offer 100% it does appear there is a chance you may get something paid for......
good luck
i agree. ive been off 3 weeks now, i havent bothered claiming sick pay and i know i should do, money is running out here. last time was 3 yrs ago and the hassle i went through trying to get benefits, when i did finally get them, 6 weeks later, i was going back to work. benefits agency are the most useless people ive ever come across
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this may look like a begging post but its not trust me...
recently i've wondered why i bother to go to work every morning and work bloody hard for my £27k + overtime a year when i could sponge off the country and get everything for free.
my mrs doesnt work becuase of the new baby but she didnt work before due to moving to a new area then getting pregnant.
now i am fully aware if i couldnt afford a baby then i should have been more careful - but thats not my point.
my mrs has a little boy by a previous partner who i think pays £12 a week (although his family is minted) so all she gets is child benefit.
i've recently wanted to get the cavity wall insulation done and bearing in mind my budget is pretty stretched at the moment £200 is alot to shell out when i could be spending that helping to clear a few loans off.
why is it that the sponging can work but wont work population manage to get everything for free no questions asked but when someone who has paid alot into the goverment coffers through tax cant manage to get a small sum waived to get cavity wall insulation.
apparantly i earn too much....£1500 between 2 adults and 2 children after tax doesnt go very far when £850 of that goes straight on a mortgage and nearly £120 of that on council tax.
just because i earn my money for a living rather than sitting on my arse watching jeremy kyle all day i am branded one of the many workers who the goverment can monthly rape on the 15th of each month :-[
rant over!
You should be able to claim Tax Credits, if you have not tried already :y
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benefits seems to be a mute point with a lot of people these days, especially as things are getting harder and harder for people on a financial level....
My wife was earning about 20K when she was working, she has been off on the sick now for 3 years and just been signed off for another 6 months, due to her illness (M.E.) it does not look like she will return to work for the forseeable future either.
She is very lucky, her work are still paying 50% of her salary, in addition she gets disability living allowance at the lower level, i believe that is about £30 a week, a helpers allowance, another £30 a week and she has a blue badge.
She feel guilty taking this because of the stigma attached to benefits, she has worked all her life and so has paid into the 'benefit pot' in fact she still pays tax and NI on the 50% she receives from her company.
My view is, if you are genuinely entitled to it, bloody well take it, the social system was put together to help those who are in need.
hve you looked at....
http://www.ukhomeinsulation.co.uk/?gclid=CPPJlOi2tJcCFQ4i3godvRMKkA
or
http://www.freeinsulation.co.uk/
i have looked at both of those and whilst they do not offer 100% it does appear there is a chance you may get something paid for......
good luck
i agree. ive been off 3 weeks now, i havent bothered claiming sick pay and i know i should do, money is running out here. last time was 3 yrs ago and the hassle i went through trying to get benefits, when i did finally get them, 6 weeks later, i was going back to work. benefits agency are the most useless people ive ever come across
I find it helps if you dont come across them...they tend too get irritated if you do. ;D
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In some ways we have think our selves fortunate that we have a benefit system, it is my thoughts that in the US they don't :-/ (please someone correct me). It's good to have something to fall back on when it's needed (even though it's not enough). It's the scrounges that live off the system & take the ssip that need sorting out & given less, the people that have contributed over the years with NI & TAX should be looked after more than they are.
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In some ways we have think our selves fortunate that we have a benefit system, it is my thoughts that in the US they don't :-/ (please someone correct me). It's good to have something to fall back on when it's needed (even though it's not enough). It's the scrounges that live off the system & take the ssip that need sorting out & given less, the people that have contributed over the years with NI & TAX should be looked after more than they are.
The benefit system only benefits those without a mortgage, and I do not mean those that have paid it off :exclamation :exclamation :exclamation
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i agree. ive been off 3 weeks now, i havent bothered claiming sick pay and i know i should do, money is running out here. last time was 3 yrs ago and the hassle i went through trying to get benefits, when i did finally get them, 6 weeks later, i was going back to work. benefits agency are the most useless people ive ever come across
If you've paid your N.I you should claim- you're entitled to it - whole point of the system
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In some ways we have think our selves fortunate that we have a benefit system, it is my thoughts that in the US they don't :-/ (please someone correct me). It's good to have something to fall back on when it's needed (even though it's not enough). It's the scrounges that live off the system & take the ssip that need sorting out & given less, the people that have contributed over the years with NI & TAX should be looked after more than they are.
The benefit system only benefits those without a mortgage, and I do not mean those that have paid it off :exclamation :exclamation :exclamation
They are willing to pay my interest on mine whilst i'm outa work, but i've a policy that takes care of my mortgage :y
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Had a bit of experience of the benifits sysrem a few months back.
I drew the conclusion that if you are prepared to lie and know how to play the system you could do reasonably well.
you need to con a doctor into going down the incapacity/disabled/carer route on your behalf and then there is enough money available to make quite a few jobs not worthwhile bothering with.[quote]
Sorry can you explain that one....?
My mum was declared unfit too work due too reasons that are personal and was placed on Incapacity benefit....she received the grand total of £78 a week.
Part of that she had too use too pay water rates so about £65 ish she was given too live on...luckily she didnt mind being cold so the gas wasnt much and she would only have on the very basics TV..kettle used just too boil 1 cup of water (shall i go on >:()
Luckily ive mostly been in a position too help her out with bills (dont forget bills/debts aint suddenly wiped out when you start receiving benefits) so she avoided the humiliation of being dragged through the courts due too not having enough money too pay them.
So id really love too hear how by conning the doctor (you've of course had a doctors assessment done yes...??? so you"ll know just how tough they are yes..???) your awarded this that and the other.
Not having a go at genuinely disabled people.quite the opposite.If the people getting these benifits who shouldnt behad it stopped it would leave a lot more for the genuinely deserving.
The fact is that it very much depends on the individual doctor.some doctors are happy to oblige people who are claiming to be disabled but in reality arent (Ihave friends who are doctors who admit that it is quite common among some of their colleagues).I personally know people who claim disability benefits who regularily walk long distances etc;
I also know one person who has been told by their doctor that they are entitled to claim it but wont because they dont believe they are deserving.
The point I was making was,if you know how to play the system to combine the various aspects - unemployed/dependants/health problems etc; then the amount can add up to a lot more than basic benifits,especially if you do some cash in hand as well.
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Had a bit of experience of the benifits sysrem a few months back.
I drew the conclusion that if you are prepared to lie and know how to play the system you could do reasonably well.
you need to con a doctor into going down the incapacity/disabled/carer route on your behalf and then there is enough money available to make quite a few jobs not worthwhile bothering with.[quote]
Sorry can you explain that one....?
My mum was declared unfit too work due too reasons that are personal and was placed on Incapacity benefit....she received the grand total of £78 a week.
Part of that she had too use too pay water rates so about £65 ish she was given too live on...luckily she didnt mind being cold so the gas wasnt much and she would only have on the very basics TV..kettle used just too boil 1 cup of water (shall i go on >:()
Luckily ive mostly been in a position too help her out with bills (dont forget bills/debts aint suddenly wiped out when you start receiving benefits) so she avoided the humiliation of being dragged through the courts due too not having enough money too pay them.
So id really love too hear how by conning the doctor (you've of course had a doctors assessment done yes...??? so you"ll know just how tough they are yes..???) your awarded this that and the other.
Not having a go at genuinely disabled people.quite the opposite.If the people getting these benifits who shouldnt behad it stopped it would leave a lot more for the genuinely deserving.
The fact is that it very much depends on the individual doctor.some doctors are happy to oblige people who are claiming to be disabled but in reality arent (Ihave friends who are doctors who admit that it is quite common among some of their colleagues).I personally know people who claim disability benefits who regularily walk long distances etc;
I also know one person who has been told by their doctor that they are entitled to claim it but wont because they dont believe they are deserving.
The point I was making was,if you know how to play the system to combine the various aspects - unemployed/dependants/health problems etc; then the amount can add up to a lot more than basic benifits,especially if you do some cash in hand as well.
Ahhhh in that case please accept my apologises....originally read your post in a different way.
Just makes my arse bleed when people suggest how easy it is for folk (genuine people) too live on benefits.
Ive said a few times too ""Mother"" she should consider a red light in the window too attract passing trade...she didn't seem overly impressed by the suggestion.... ;D :-X
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im certainly not saying that i earn a poor amount.... on its own its a very good salary - but when that is the only salary to support 2 adults and 2 kids living in my own house and paying council tax it doesnt go far. and all i want is some cavity wall insulation that they are throwing at everybody else for just a signature.
and i aint saying im happy to live on this amount - i'm just saying i work bloody hard with not alot to show - you can see why the spongers do it to get housing benefit, council tax paid for, free school meals, vouchers for shopping, benefit for every kid they throw out
its about time the goverment started to support the backbone of the country who put alot of money in, rather than the can work wont work tossers
ive always said that child benefit up to 2 children, you want anymore than that, you pay for them. not the taxpayer. why should i pay for someone to have half a dozen kids for 16 yrs.
What happens when no. 2 are twins?
Anyway child allowance - I pay it anyway out of the taxes on me.