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Title: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: razzo on 10 December 2008, 08:29:18
Will anyone be watching this tonight & do you approve of assisted suicide?

www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2019734.ece

Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 December 2008, 08:48:51
Its not something that bothers me......lets be honest, death is the one thing we are all guaranteed.

I would rather this type of suicide be available than the thought of some body dying alone and some other poor sole finding them and having to deal with the mess.

To be honest, in his position, I would probably do the same thing.

I hope the documentary is presented correctly though.
Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: mantahatch on 10 December 2008, 08:55:26
To some degree assisted suicide has happened in this country for years. Many people who have had relatives pass away in hospital and been with them when they passed away "peacefully" where probably on such high dose pain killers that helped them on there way.
Now since the Harold Shipman case hospitals/doctors are to frightened to give high dose pain killers and many people passing away do so in a terrible way. My wife's uncle went this way about 8 months ago. His daughter was with him in the room and begged the doctors to help him, they refused.
She is still mentally scarred by the way he died.
Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: LJay on 10 December 2008, 11:34:21
I think suicide as just a way out of bad situations is cowardly.
However in these circumstances where you are no longer living just existing  and feel that you wish to die while you still have the ability to choose then its different.
I have always said that i do not want to become old and dependant, so there is no way i would want to put myself or my family through a long terminal illness. I think assisted suicide is the way I would choose to go.

No one can ever pass judgement on this subject until they find themselves in a similar situation, you can't say its wrong.

Really needs to be tightly controlled though to prevent its abuse.
Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: jereboam on 10 December 2008, 11:45:27
Unless I'm injured in an accident, I trust I won't need assistance.  I'll do it myself.  

I really fear dementia, and I am (at present) resolved to depart under my own steam as soon as I detect it.  As for cancer and the other killers, I hope I have the strength of character to refuse treatment and just go quietly.  

I have absolutely no desire to linger on till I'm 90, embarassing my children and consuming whatever wealth I may have retained - the next generation have more use for it than I have.  

Elective euthanasia is a good thing, and it is immoral to put barriers in the way of anyone who wants to end their own life but is physically incapable of doing so.
Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: waspy on 10 December 2008, 13:22:08
My uppermost respect to the guy & all that have taken this path. It must be a very hard choice to make, but maybe in their circumstances it's an easy one, who knows.
Folk shouldn't be made to suffer & if any of my family need me to help in this way in the future then so be it, what ever the end out come is for me. I had to put my Rotty down a few years back & as much as it broke my heart to let her go, it was breaking my heart more to see her in the condition she was in. I most certainly wouldn't see my mother suffering, NO WAY.
Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 December 2008, 13:52:26
My main fear is the following week - a cure
Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 December 2008, 14:14:52
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My main fear is the following week - a cure

Are you a paranoid person Martin  :y

Very unlikely.....when these things take years to complete initial testing let alone clinical trials!
Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 December 2008, 14:51:59
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My main fear is the following week - a cure

Are you a paranoid person Martin  :y

Very unlikely.....when these things take years to complete initial testing let alone clinical trials!


I am not paranoid - I know they are out ot get me!

If I was badly ill I would be well willing to try some experimental thingies to get better or at least usable.
Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: STMO123 on 10 December 2008, 16:39:02
If I ever decided to end it all I would run amok on a motorway so as to take as many with me as possible, you bastards.
Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: doog on 10 December 2008, 16:52:03
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My main fear is the following week - a cure

Are you a paranoid person Martin  :y

Very unlikely.....when these things take years to complete initial testing let alone clinical trials!


I am not paranoid - I know they are out ot get me!

If I was badly ill I would be well willing to try some experimental thingies to get better or at least usable.

id be scared i ended up growing boobs or some other wierd side effect

I am of the opinion when your numbers up then its up

Doug
Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: doog on 10 December 2008, 16:52:46
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If I ever decided to end it all I would run amok on a motorway so as to take as many with me as possible, you bastards.
hahahahahaha

i have the same sense of houmor you have

Doug
Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: Richie London on 10 December 2008, 18:06:59
im being frozen when im 50 so hopefully be back in time to see england win world cup in the yr 2230.  :)
Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: albitz on 10 December 2008, 19:03:02
The first and i sincerely hope the last time I have ever agreed with Gormless Brown.
The danger is ,if it becomes commonplace/normalised, in the future the elderly/seriously ill could feel pressurised/guilty for being a burden etc and choose this route in large numbers.
A few generations down the line governments could legislate that if you dont turn up for your appointment at the clinic upon retirement then you have to demonstrate your ability to contribute to society rather than be a drain on it.might sound highly unlikely ,but there are plenty of things which are commonplace today which would have been unthinkable 40 or 50 years ago.
Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: Martin_1962 on 10 December 2008, 19:21:55
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im being frozen when im 50 so hopefully be back in time to see england win world cup in the yr 2230.  :)


It is only 5 years ago give them a chance!
Title: Re: Has reality TV gone too far
Post by: Lazydocker on 10 December 2008, 19:52:57
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Its not something that bothers me......lets be honest, death is the one thing we are all guaranteed.

And taxes! >:( >:( >:( >:(

I'm a big believer that there is nothing wrong with assisted suicide... As long as the person is making that choice of their own free will!!

And yes... I'm speaking from family experience after watching my Aunt die over the course of 15 years :o >:( :'(

TBH I keep telling my mother and the in-laws that I'm going to try and take all three and get a discount :o ::) ;D ;D