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Title: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 17 December 2008, 13:25:12
just had a phone call off my mom saying my sister has been rushed into hospital
she is now in a coma (not sure if i spelt that right)

this chap that she moved in with is bleeding her dry of her money and from what i have herd off a neighbour he has been beating her up

she is diabetic and due to him has not been well for a few weeks
ive told my mother on severely occasions that she dont look well and she done nothing

my sister is now in a coma in intensive care in the hospital
and my anger level has hit the roof  >:(

ive locked myself in the house cause i know if i go out the house ill be paying him a visit  >:(
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: MarkG on 17 December 2008, 13:33:07
You will never know the truth about their relationship. If you step in you could unite both of them agianst you. If she is in a coma, talk to him - calmly - don't jump to any conclusions or make any snap judgements
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 17 December 2008, 13:37:25
my girl friend has seen bruises on the top of her arms and the top of her legs
places where bruises can be hidden easily with just a basic top and skirt

both me and my partner said that something bad will happen
just never expected this to happen
my girl friend has gone into work in a foul mood as she is tempted to pay him a visit


my mom thinks the sun shines out his back side cause he has told her that many lies to make him look like he is the best bloke my sister has ever seen
(but me and my girl friend knows the truth)
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 17 December 2008, 13:39:35
First and foremost my thoughts are with your sister and that she will be ok.

As for her muppet boyfriend I would involve the police and whoever else you can think of, if they can prove he is at fault they may well lock him away.

The last thing you need at a time like this is agro or violence.

At this time your sister needs you matey, the BF can wait till later and when least expecting it.
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 17 December 2008, 13:46:17
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First and foremost my thoughts are with your sister and that she will be ok.

As for her muppet boyfriend I would involve the police and whoever else you can think of, if they can prove he is at fault they may well lock him away.

The last thing you need at a time like this is agro or violence.

At this time your sister needs you matey, the BF can wait till later and when least expecting it.

thats what my uncle has told me
he said that when my sister comes out the coma she will see things that everything he has done is wrong and is time to stand up to him
and then thats when we sort him out with either the police or take the law into out own hands
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: VX1 on 17 December 2008, 13:54:36
I feel your frustration mate but believe me its not worth getting yourself arrested for what he has done to your sister. Take a deep breath and think about your sister and think about what she would say if you took the law into your own hands, she may never forgive you IF she cannot see beyond her love for this guy. I know its hard for you, and you can see whats happenng to your sis but believe what I say it's not worth it doing what you want to her BF.

Paul  :y

My thoughts are with you fella.
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 17 December 2008, 14:00:13
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First and foremost my thoughts are with your sister and that she will be ok.

As for her muppet boyfriend I would involve the police and whoever else you can think of, if they can prove he is at fault they may well lock him away.

The last thing you need at a time like this is agro or violence.

At this time your sister needs you matey, the BF can wait till later and when least expecting it.


I can only echo Skruntie's advice and get the authorities involved.  You beating him up will not help anyone (but it must be soooooooo tempting!!), but if it can be proved that he is responsible all your worries will be dealt with in one blow, providing your sister recovers as I sincerely hope she will for you! :( :(

Stay strong, cool and clever, and bring him down by legal means. 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 17 December 2008, 14:00:54
it does wind you up tho knowing that after i know what he has done he is at the hospital with her as if he cares
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: stuart30 on 17 December 2008, 14:15:56
Don't forget that diabetics bruise much easier than most others....that could count towards at least some of the bruises.

Fully agree he needs a good hiding assuming your suspicions are correct.
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 17 December 2008, 14:21:44
i dont no much about what hospitals can do but im guessing that they can point out why she ended up in a coma
and im right or is it a bit more complicated than that
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 17 December 2008, 14:27:16
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First and foremost my thoughts are with your sister and that she will be ok.

As for her muppet boyfriend I would involve the police and whoever else you can think of, if they can prove he is at fault they may well lock him away.

The last thing you need at a time like this is agro or violence.

At this time your sister needs you matey, the BF can wait till later and when least expecting it.

completely agreed..
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Danny on 17 December 2008, 15:08:07
my thoughts aren't suitable for a public forum as i have my own psychopathic tendancies but i'll say this much, if i was in your position and your sister's outcome was of negative result, I know what i'd do, and nothing would be able to stop me

I hope all's well mate
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 17 December 2008, 15:15:19
Someone needs to approach the Police with the suspicions. Let them investigate it, don't get yourself in the brown stuff by going down to his level :y
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 17 December 2008, 15:42:37
all is well so far
she has just come out of the coma
my mom just rang
they are keeping her in intensive care for a few days to make sure she is fine before moving her to a ward
they say she should be back home for crimbo :y

and no way will i be letting her go back to that t**t of a so called boy friend

thanks for all your surport ;)
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 17 December 2008, 15:44:58
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all is well so far
she has just come out of the coma
my mom just rang
they are keeping her in intensive care for a few days to make sure she is fine before moving her to a ward
they say she should be back home for crimbo :y

and no way will i be letting her go back to that t**t of a so called boy friend

thanks for all your surport ;)


That is great news!! :y :y :y

Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 17 December 2008, 15:48:03
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all is well so far
she has just come out of the coma
my mom just rang

they are keeping her in intensive care for a few days to make sure she is fine before moving her to a ward
they say she should be back home for crimbo :y

and no way will i be letting her go back to that t**t of a so called boy friend

thanks for all your surport ;)

Fantastic news,   :y :y

Just remember matey, take your time over whats happeing with the boyfriend and make your sister aware of how you feel, as she may well try to defend him.  He will get whats coming to him, just dont get yourself into trouble.
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 17 December 2008, 15:50:12
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all is well so far
she has just come out of the coma
my mom just rang

they are keeping her in intensive care for a few days to make sure she is fine before moving her to a ward
they say she should be back home for crimbo :y

and no way will i be letting her go back to that t**t of a so called boy friend

thanks for all your surport ;)

Fantastic news,   :y :y

Just remember matey, take your time over whats happeing with the boyfriend and make your sister aware of how you feel, as she may well try to defend him.  He will get whats coming to him, just dont get yourself into trouble.


thanks for the advice
ill let her recover fully and have a quiet word and try and get to the point of it all

thanks again
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Richie London on 17 December 2008, 16:41:05
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my thoughts aren't suitable for a public forum as i have my own psychopathic tendancies but i'll say this much, if i was in your position and your sister's outcome was of negative result, I know what i'd do, and nothing would be able to stop me

I hope all's well mate


i agree there, ive had all this with my sister. andalso a 25 yr old bloke who hit my son earlier this yr because he thought he was someone else. i wont say what i did but it wasnt pleasant.  ;)
with your sister i would wait until she ok and have a good talk to her first. see what she wants to do, you have to go by what she wants before you go in with fists flying, good news shes out of the coma now. just give her support now m8.
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: BigAl on 17 December 2008, 22:15:26
If you're sure he's a wrong'un, i would go for a 2 pronged attack:-
someone speaks to the hospital doctor treating her about their suspicians, basically asking could the injuries be caused by abusive partner.
Someone else gets the police involved, "my friend has been hospitalised by a violent boyfriend"
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 17 December 2008, 22:27:13
Glad your Sis is getting better mate.
I had something similar years ago, did something you are considering which didn't work out exactly as I thought as my sis went back to the knobhead and I was the bad person then. Which really upset me at the time.. so I wouldn't do the same thing again.

Hope this helps :y
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: GuzziHero on 18 December 2008, 08:51:21
Just read this.

I wish all the best for your sisters' recovery, buddy.

I know what I'd like to do to the guy but want and ability are 2 different things.  
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Bacon Butty Man on 18 December 2008, 09:55:25
i had the same sort of problem but not as bad, my sis had a nasty hubby, i waited for a quiet moment n had a word, if any more incidents arise, the next time i sidle up to him i will not be talking, but will make him sorry for what he has done, i talked to my sis first tho n got the truth, with our help she dumped him n kicked him out, every things fine now,
good luck with what ever you decide, at the end of the day its between him n her until your sis says something to you.  :-X
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 18 December 2008, 11:08:53
i just got back from the hospital and i tried talking to my sister
she wont comment on anything
she said something happened and its nothing to worry about (but she said that in tears)
i think she is hiding something

they are moving her from intensive care to a ward later on today
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: doog on 18 December 2008, 11:30:34
First things first

1.your sister is the priority  when she comes round you dont want her to be faced with a boyfriend who has been beaten up and a brother who is in the jail for assault.

2. make sure you have got the story correct before you do anything

3 having lived in a household with a violent stepfather when i was young   all i can say is any man who hits a woman for any reason is a piece of shit in my book

dont do anything untill you know your sister is ok  then if your sure he has been lifting his hands to your sister  deal with it "in your own special way"  if he comes back to her i doubt he will lay a finger on her again

oh and one last point ... regardless of what he has or has not done to your sister  THEY WILL MAKE UP    AND YOU WILL BE THE BAD ONE cos you lifted your hands to him   and will that make you any better than him?

god knows i couldnt practice what i am preaching right now cos if someone  touched a hair on my sisters head i would pull their arms off

regardless what you do it will be the right thing to do   just make sure your not going off with half a story


Doug  

Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Lazydocker on 18 December 2008, 12:41:56
Keep the temper under control... You will end up much worse off for lashing out!

Whilst I can't abide violence against women you will end up in a very bad position if you deal with this yourself... Use the correct routes :y :y :y

As for your sister... I know a fair bit about diabetes and the coma is most likely caused by improper care of sugar levels, and could well be nothing to do with the ar$ehole boyfriend. Unfortunately though, she will most likely defend him for whatever he has done. :o :o :o

IMO the best course of action is to go via the correct channels and be there for her... Let her know your suspicions and that there are people who can help... She has to be the one who does something about it otherwise you will be wasting your time and alienating your family :o :o :o

I'm pleased to hear she has recovered from the coma, but pleases don't jump on the BF until you manage to get the full story from your sister... It MAY (however unlikely as it seems at the moment) be completely innocent!
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: jjleonard on 18 December 2008, 14:30:25
As per lazydocker and other responses above - beating up the boyfriend may well make you feel good, and make well cause him to leave your sister.

However, your sister needs you and your support - far better to help her realise that the b/f is the wrong one for her; then she'll kick him out and not replace him with another dodgy b*stard who might hit her too.

If you just steam in and smack him about a bit, you won't have solved anything in the long term, and that's the bit your sister needs help with.

Best of luck - glad to hear your sister is getting better! :y
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 18 December 2008, 15:51:56
thanks again for all the advice and surport
ive talked my sister into spending time at my house with my mrs and kids when she gets out the hospital
both me and the mrs will sit her down and have a chat
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Lazydocker on 18 December 2008, 17:31:57
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thanks again for all the advice and surport
ive talked my sister into spending time at my house with my mrs and kids when she gets out the hospital
both me and the mrs will sit her down and have a chat

Seems like the best course of action... You'll be able to help her keep on top of the sugar levels for her diabetes too :y :y :y
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: MindlessJD on 18 December 2008, 18:28:43
My thoughts are with you and your sister. I hope she gets well soon.

I agree with the others, deal with the other half when he is least expecting it.
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: amigov6 on 18 December 2008, 21:03:23
Firstly thank break your sis is out of her coma. Keep your hands in your pockets (for now) Try to get her to convalesce with a family member & keep that breakwit away from her. If you can have him charged with assault then do so but bear in mind she may have to give evidence which she won't be up to at the moment (not sure on that one)
  
  Right. Now it's playtime. Leave it a year or so then give him a proper hiding when he's out one night. By then there'll be no suspicion at your door as an undesirable character like him could've upset anyone & it'll be considered a random fri/sat night assault. :y
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 18 December 2008, 21:06:33
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Firstly thank break your sis is out of her coma. Keep your hands in your pockets (for now) Try to get her to convalesce with a family member & keep that breakwit away from her. If you can have him charged with assault then do so but bear in mind she may have to give evidence which she won't be up to at the moment (not sure on that one)
  
  Right. Now it's playtime. Leave it a year or so then give him a proper hiding when he's out one night. By then there'll be no suspicion at your door as an undesirable character like him could've upset anyone & it'll be considered a random fri/sat night assault. :y

very good idea
dont know about leaving it a year tho
gotta at least let him see december out and maybe a bit of january before he has a accident
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: amigov6 on 18 December 2008, 21:18:41
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Firstly thank break your sis is out of her coma. Keep your hands in your pockets (for now) Try to get her to convalesce with a family member & keep that breakwit away from her. If you can have him charged with assault then do so but bear in mind she may have to give evidence which she won't be up to at the moment (not sure on that one)
  
  Right. Now it's playtime. Leave it a year or so then give him a proper hiding when he's out one night. By then there'll be no suspicion at your door as an undesirable character like him could've upset anyone & it'll be considered a random fri/sat night assault. :y

very good idea
dont know about leaving it a year tho
gotta at least let him see december out and maybe a bit of january before he has a accident
I know it's not easy mate. I HATE bullies which is all he is. I can see it's going to happen, any of us would, but you getting banged up won't help your sister or Mrs. The longer you can leave it the better.

   GRIT YOUR TEETH, every dog has his day. We used to refer to it as
  "he's got one in the bank & it's building interest"!!!

   Best thing is he thinks he's in the clear...until Red Nose Day!!!! :y
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 19 December 2008, 16:12:44
just a quick update on the situation
my sister is alot better in a ward doing great
thanks for all the surport she will be out very soon

1 problem
i have been up the hospital nearly all day and me and my sis was talking about how she is looking forward to spending crimbo with me the mrs and kids
then he boy friend walked in and over herd
he put his foot straight down having a go at me
i kept my cool following everyone's advice on here
the nurse told me and him to keep quiet or go out side
he said straight away "out side now"
so we went out side and he said no way is she stopping with you over crimbo she is coming home with me weather me or my sis or family likes it or not

so i told him straight if he starts trying to rule her he is gonna have me to deal with

from that he came at me and slammed me against the wall twice
its cut the back of my head open a little
i then flipped
i kept my cool long enough

i gave him a damn good hiding (not going in to much detail but he came alot worse off)

my sis is considering leaving him and moving back in with my mom

ill keep you all posted on what happens
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Richie London on 19 December 2008, 16:20:16
nice one m8, let him know your not putting up with his mouth or his actions, hope hes learnt his lesson but probably not, wish i was there with you at the time, just be careful he doesnt make a complaint against you.
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 19 December 2008, 16:28:48
my mrs said that if he trys to go to the police about me she is going to give him a good smack to show that women do fight back

last time i saw my mrs fight she put a big bloke in hospital
(not a nice person to cross my mrs but she has got a heart of gold)
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Richie London on 19 December 2008, 16:30:53
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my mrs said that if he trys to go to the police about me she is going to give him a good smack to show that women do fight back

last time i saw my mrs fight she put a big bloke in hospital
(not a nice person to cross my mrs but she has got a heart of gold)

ive a sister like, that, she gave my mums sister a right hander at my nans funeral yrs ago. knocked her flying too.  :y :y
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 19 December 2008, 16:33:43
nice 1
its great to see women that can stand up for them selves and show that women dont have to be bullied by they husbands / boy friend or any other bloke or woman

the last time i saw 2 women fight was at a mud wrestling venue
that was a great laugh
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: beemerdevil on 19 December 2008, 17:42:12
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First and foremost my thoughts are with your sister and that she will be ok.

As for her muppet boyfriend I would involve the police and whoever else you can think of, if they can prove he is at fault they may well lock him away.


The last thing you need at a time like this is agro or violence.

At this time your sister needs you matey, the BF can wait till later and when least expecting it.

completely agreed..




i second this.....and also, wish your sister well, hope she recovers quickly - and keep calm matey...old bill and authorities will sort BF out- dont get ur self arrested :y :y
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: markey mark on 20 December 2008, 01:38:58
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just a quick update on the situation
my sister is alot better in a ward doing great
thanks for all the surport she will be out very soon

1 problem
i have been up the hospital nearly all day and me and my sis was talking about how she is looking forward to spending crimbo with me the mrs and kids
then he boy friend walked in and over herd
he put his foot straight down having a go at me
i kept my cool following everyone's advice on here
the nurse told me and him to keep quiet or go out side
he said straight away "out side now"
so we went out side and he said no way is she stopping with you over crimbo she is coming home with me weather me or my sis or family likes it or not

so i told him straight if he starts trying to rule her he is gonna have me to deal with

from that he came at me and slammed me against the wall twice
its cut the back of my head open a little
i then flipped
i kept my cool long enough

i gave him a damn good hiding (not going in to much detail but he came alot worse off)

my sis is considering leaving him and moving back in with my mom

ill keep you all posted on what happens

nice one bought time  >:( i kept schtum when you first posted cause i would just have kicked ten bells out of him !!  ;D
hope it turns out alrite for you matey !!  8-)
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Miggy24 on 20 December 2008, 08:52:50
If it was me i would break his legs for starters :y
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 20 December 2008, 10:20:34
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If it was me i would break his legs for starters :y

thats to come if he comes near my sister again
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 20 December 2008, 10:54:14
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thanks again for all the advice and surport
ive talked my sister into spending time at my house with my mrs and kids when she gets out the hospital
both me and the mrs will sit her down and have a chat

If you back off from finding out what happened tou will find your mum is the most likely to get the truth from her and will know the best timr to talk to your sister.  :y
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 20 December 2008, 11:02:32
Just catching up with the rest of the thread.

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from that he came at me and slammed me against the wall twice
its cut the back of my head open a little

i then flipped
i kept my cool long enough

i gave him a damn good hiding (not going in to much detail but he came alot worse off)

my sis is considering leaving him and moving back in with my mom

ill keep you all posted on what happens

did you have a witness, could have him for assault to add to his list of problems
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: VX1 on 20 December 2008, 11:04:19
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just a quick update on the situation
my sister is alot better in a ward doing great
thanks for all the surport she will be out very soon

1 problem
i have been up the hospital nearly all day and me and my sis was talking about how she is looking forward to spending crimbo with me the mrs and kids
then he boy friend walked in and over herd
he put his foot straight down having a go at me
i kept my cool following everyone's advice on here
the nurse told me and him to keep quiet or go out side
he said straight away "out side now"
so we went out side and he said no way is she stopping with you over crimbo she is coming home with me weather me or my sis or family likes it or not

so i told him straight if he starts trying to rule her he is gonna have me to deal with

from that he came at me and slammed me against the wall twice
its cut the back of my head open a little

i then flipped
i kept my cool long enough

i gave him a damn good hiding (not going in to much detail but he came alot worse off)

my sis is considering leaving him and moving back in with my mom

ill keep you all posted on what happens


Self defence comes to mind plus ABH, so I doubt very much he will go to the police. Did you get the head injury looked at whilst you were at the hospital? If you did then this will be on your file at the hospital and could be used in evidence if he decided to go to the police. So one for you and nothing for him.
What your sis needs to do now is file a complaint against her BF then get a court injuction out on him as she could be in fear of her life as she is an abused wife/GF, this will keep him away for good.

Paul  :y

P.s Glad your sis is ok and out of the danger zone and on her way to a full recovery. Let me be the first to wish you, your family and your sister a wonderful Merry Christmas and happy New Year
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 20 December 2008, 11:04:57
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Just catching up with the rest of the thread.

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from that he came at me and slammed me against the wall twice
its cut the back of my head open a little

i then flipped
i kept my cool long enough

i gave him a damn good hiding (not going in to much detail but he came alot worse off)

my sis is considering leaving him and moving back in with my mom

ill keep you all posted on what happens

did you have a witness, could have him for assault to add to his list of problems

after i gave him a bit ok a knock around not going into much detail
i hope there was no witness's as it will be me that comes worse off
Title: Re: do i kill him or let him suffer
Post by: nick v6 on 20 December 2008, 11:07:59
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just a quick update on the situation
my sister is alot better in a ward doing great
thanks for all the surport she will be out very soon

1 problem
i have been up the hospital nearly all day and me and my sis was talking about how she is looking forward to spending crimbo with me the mrs and kids
then he boy friend walked in and over herd
he put his foot straight down having a go at me
i kept my cool following everyone's advice on here
the nurse told me and him to keep quiet or go out side
he said straight away "out side now"
so we went out side and he said no way is she stopping with you over crimbo she is coming home with me weather me or my sis or family likes it or not

so i told him straight if he starts trying to rule her he is gonna have me to deal with

from that he came at me and slammed me against the wall twice
its cut the back of my head open a little

i then flipped
i kept my cool long enough

i gave him a damn good hiding (not going in to much detail but he came alot worse off)

my sis is considering leaving him and moving back in with my mom

ill keep you all posted on what happens


Self defence comes to mind plus ABH, so I doubt very much he will go to the police. Did you get the head injury looked at whilst you were at the hospital? If you did then this will be on your file at the hospital and could be used in evidence if he decided to go to the police. So one for you and nothing for him.
What your sis needs to do now is file a complaint against her BF then get a court injuction out on him as she could be in fear of her life as she is an abused wife/GF, this will keep him away for good.

Paul  :y

P.s Glad your sis is ok and out of the danger zone and on her way to a full recovery. Let me be the first to wish you, your family and your sister a wonderful Merry Christmas and happy New Year

yes i got the cuts on my head looked at as there was quite a lot of blood
nothing serious just how i hit the wall with my head made it a wide cut

plus when ever i have a cut anywhere i bleed well
my mom always called me a little bleeder