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Title: Any bikers
Post by: familyman on 02 January 2007, 20:52:19
 Don't know if there are many bikers out there, but looking to replace my Kawasaki zzr1100c this year,
heard the Suzi gsxr750 is a good bike but being a big guy 6'2 got used to the big cc's and a bit of comfort, wider saddle than a pure sportsbike. thought also of Honda Blackbird but i don't want to be bored. My zzr has been tuned and tweaked over the years ;)  but just fancy a change and starting again. although would love a zzr1400 but as it cost more than most of the cars i buy she who must be obeyed has rejected that idea.

any good experiences of other models out there ;D
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: tunnie on 02 January 2007, 20:53:20
TB has a bike, but a ZZR 1100 is a fast bike!  :o
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: TheBoy on 02 January 2007, 20:54:37
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Don't know if there are many bikers out there, but looking to replace my Kawasaki zzr1100c this year,
heard the Suzi gsxr750 is a good bike but being a big guy 6'2 got used to the big cc's and a bit of comfort, wider saddle than a pure sportsbike. thought also of Honda Blackbird but i don't want to be bored. My zzr has been tuned and tweaked over the years ;)  but just fancy a change and starting again. although would love a zzr1400 but as it cost more than most of the cars i buy she who must be obeyed has rejected that idea.

any good experiences of other models out there ;D
I'm a mainly fair weather biker.

The ZZR1100 is a fanastic all rounder - comfortable tourer, with power of a reasonable sport bike...  ...I think you'll find it a hard act to follow.
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Essex_Andy on 02 January 2007, 20:58:35
I'm a biker...got my own fast road/advanced bike school.... www.Road-Riders.com

I'd suggest a ZX12R if you're a big bloke...can easily be modded to push out 185-ish bhp at rear wheel
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: tunnie on 02 January 2007, 21:03:01
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I'm a biker...got my own fast road/advanced bike school.... www.Road-Riders.com

I'd suggest a ZX12R if you're a big bloke...can easily be modded to push out 185-ish bhp at rear wheel

I've always fancied learning to ride a motorbike. I cycle to uni and wished i could just twist the bar to go faster  ;)

Where abouts are you Andy, just took a look at your website. Very reasonable prices  :y
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: TheBoy on 02 January 2007, 21:06:22
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I'm a biker...got my own fast road/advanced bike school.... www.Road-Riders.com

I'd suggest a ZX12R if you're a big bloke...can easily be modded to push out 185-ish bhp at rear wheel

I've always fancied learning to ride a motorbike. I cycle to uni and wished i could just twist the bar to go faster  ;)

Where abouts are you Andy, just took a look at your website. Very reasonable prices  :y
Would your Mum allow it  ::)
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: familyman on 02 January 2007, 21:07:45
Thats the trouble. my zzr is derestricetd and dyno'd big devil 4into 1 and ohlin rear shock and other mods. Not bored with the bike to ride, just like tinkering and doing stuff to it. Its like missile and staight line see's off my friends 03 Yam R1 and dependign on how brave we are on the day not much in the handling, so i was looking for a good base bike. If it comes to it a zx12 or a later zzr1100d onwards sounds good. I guess Hondas get expensive to start playing about with, also don't really want fuel injection but i supose have to move into 21st century ;D
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: tunnie on 02 January 2007, 21:08:21
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I'm a biker...got my own fast road/advanced bike school.... www.Road-Riders.com

I'd suggest a ZX12R if you're a big bloke...can easily be modded to push out 185-ish bhp at rear wheel

I've always fancied learning to ride a motorbike. I cycle to uni and wished i could just twist the bar to go faster  ;)

Where abouts are you Andy, just took a look at your website. Very reasonable prices  :y
Would your Mum allow it  ::)

Nope!  >:( - I point out she had several horses that can do 30mph flat out weigh 2 ton, and don't have any brakes.

My dad had a bike when he was at Brunel uni too, but he also says no  >:(
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: TheBoy on 02 January 2007, 21:11:01
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I'm a biker...got my own fast road/advanced bike school.... www.Road-Riders.com

I'd suggest a ZX12R if you're a big bloke...can easily be modded to push out 185-ish bhp at rear wheel

I've always fancied learning to ride a motorbike. I cycle to uni and wished i could just twist the bar to go faster  ;)

Where abouts are you Andy, just took a look at your website. Very reasonable prices  :y
Would your Mum allow it  ::)

Nope!  >:( - I point out she had several horses that can do 30mph flat out weigh 2 ton, and don't have any brakes.

My dad had a bike when he was at Brunel uni too, but he also says no  >:(
After sliding the ZX10 up the road 18 months back, I can confirm they can hurt  :-[
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: tunnie on 02 January 2007, 21:11:51
watching Long Way Round (got it on dvd now) really made me want to get a bike.

If anyone has not seen it, highly recommend. Ewan McGreggor and his mate Charlie take a couple of BMW bikes around the world!!

Bet that company who turned them down is pissed off, the DVD sales of it apparently are huge!
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: familyman on 02 January 2007, 21:16:08
At the risk of a family break up you've got to try it tunnie. Nothing like it and yes was well impressed by the dvd, but what about the camera man?  he had a mad russian bike for a while ::)
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: tunnie on 02 January 2007, 21:16:35
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I'm a biker...got my own fast road/advanced bike school.... www.Road-Riders.com

I'd suggest a ZX12R if you're a big bloke...can easily be modded to push out 185-ish bhp at rear wheel

I've always fancied learning to ride a motorbike. I cycle to uni and wished i could just twist the bar to go faster  ;)

Where abouts are you Andy, just took a look at your website. Very reasonable prices  :y
Would your Mum allow it  ::)

Nope!  >:( - I point out she had several horses that can do 30mph flat out weigh 2 ton, and don't have any brakes.

My dad had a bike when he was at Brunel uni too, but he also says no  >:(
After sliding the ZX10 up the road 18 months back, I can confirm they can hurt  :-[

My dad came off on ice several times, shook his confidence i think.

Mates dad has a bike too, what puts me off is the high insurance and all the gear you have to buy.

Something i might do when i am earning money again, i see there is a school in Brackley someware, see them go up my road.
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Essex_Andy on 02 January 2007, 21:18:07
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I'm a biker...got my own fast road/advanced bike school.... www.Road-Riders.com

I'd suggest a ZX12R if you're a big bloke...can easily be modded to push out 185-ish bhp at rear wheel

I've always fancied learning to ride a motorbike. I cycle to uni and wished i could just twist the bar to go faster  ;)

Where abouts are you Andy, just took a look at your website. Very reasonable prices  :y

Sorry fella,

I dont 'do' learners...I take you to the next levels once you get your full licence
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: tunnie on 02 January 2007, 21:19:09
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At the risk of a family break up you've got to try it tunnie. Nothing like it and yes was well impressed by the dvd, but what about the camera man?  he had a mad russian bike for a while ::)

Tbh i'd love to go around Europe on a bike, but it would be far too dangerous.

Its just totally different, clutch is finger controlled, gears by slight movement of the foot. Just got to give it a go!!  ;D
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: tunnie on 02 January 2007, 21:19:50
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I'm a biker...got my own fast road/advanced bike school.... www.Road-Riders.com

I'd suggest a ZX12R if you're a big bloke...can easily be modded to push out 185-ish bhp at rear wheel

I've always fancied learning to ride a motorbike. I cycle to uni and wished i could just twist the bar to go faster  ;)

Where abouts are you Andy, just took a look at your website. Very reasonable prices  :y

Sorry fella,

I dont 'do' learners...I take you to the next levels once you get your full licence

Ah ok don't worry m8 only wondering, not even got a CBT yet!
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: TheBoy on 02 January 2007, 21:21:45
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At the risk of a family break up you've got to try it tunnie. Nothing like it and yes was well impressed by the dvd, but what about the camera man?  he had a mad russian bike for a while ::)

Tbh i'd love to go around Europe on a bike, but it would be far too dangerous.

Its just totally different, clutch is finger controlled, gears by slight movement of the foot. Just got to give it a go!!  ;D
Not sure I'd fancy Europe on my bike - fuel stop every 160 miles, and a sore arse. And all the protective gear in hot weather...
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: tunnie on 02 January 2007, 21:25:56
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At the risk of a family break up you've got to try it tunnie. Nothing like it and yes was well impressed by the dvd, but what about the camera man?  he had a mad russian bike for a while ::)

Tbh i'd love to go around Europe on a bike, but it would be far too dangerous.

Its just totally different, clutch is finger controlled, gears by slight movement of the foot. Just got to give it a go!!  ;D
Not sure I'd fancy Europe on my bike - fuel stop every 160 miles, and a sore arse. And all the protective gear in hot weather...

You need a tourer really, Long Way Round used those BMW bikes Ewan's back was straight as he was riding so it's a very upright bike.

It looked great on the DVD, but i think a 3.0 V6 could be more fun in the Alps  ;D
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Essex_Andy on 02 January 2007, 21:27:17
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At the risk of a family break up you've got to try it tunnie. Nothing like it and yes was well impressed by the dvd, but what about the camera man?  he had a mad russian bike for a while ::)

Tbh i'd love to go around Europe on a bike, but it would be far too dangerous.

Its just totally different, clutch is finger controlled, gears by slight movement of the foot. Just got to give it a go!!  ;D
Not sure I'd fancy Europe on my bike - fuel stop every 160 miles, and a sore arse. And all the protective gear in hot weather...

Some of the best holidays I've had was riding around europe with my mates. We followed a few of the WSB and GP races from Jerez to Valencia.

Full kit is ok, good shower at the end of the day is far better than losing lots of skin!!!!

Most 3* hotels in Europe knock spots of our supposed 5* ones and B+B in most hotels was circa £15 a night including secure/underground parking

The B roads (stay off boring motorways) are better than ours and take in some awesome twisties

Most Europeans have had a scooter while at school and are bike aware....often had many a french/spanish/dutch etc drive mount the verge or pavement in traffic jams to let bikes pass
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: mijfife on 02 January 2007, 23:01:48
I've got a 1991 GPZ900R, good comfy old bike that can shift well too  ;D I'm also 6ft 2" and I find it a good compromise between a sports and a tourer. The other big advantage of being a 15 year old bike is that I've got it on Classic Insurance with Footman James. Agreed value, unlimited miles and less than £150  :)
I've been dying to get it out for a blast for the last couple of months, everytime the weather has been reasonable, I've been busy with something else  :'(

As for bikes being dangerous, it can only go as fast as you twist the throttle and bikers tend to be much better at reading road surfaces than car drivers. Two wheels + diesel or gravel is not a good mixture!

Cheers Jim
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Martin_1962 on 02 January 2007, 23:11:38
I used to have bikes - went up to 600cc and that was pretty fast!
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Gwilym on 03 January 2007, 00:48:56
Been abroad a fair bit on my bike and never had any problems. Well not true, I wrote one of in France but just finished the trip as a pillion and got a new one on my return.

Just sold my Africa Twin and looking for anther big trailie
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: TheBoy on 03 January 2007, 09:15:48
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I used to have bikes - went up to 600cc and that was pretty fast!
Boys bikes ;)
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: TheBoy on 03 January 2007, 09:19:28
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bikers tend to be much better at reading road surfaces than car drivers. Two wheels + diesel or gravel is not a good mixture!

Cheers Jim
They have to be - it hurts more ;)

I'm embarrassed to say my stunt was in fine weather, dry roads...   ...approaching a roundabout, looking for a gap, thought the car in front had gone, realised too late it hadn't, snatched front brake, lost it :(. Somehow, I missed the car, but it still hurt...
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Admin on 03 January 2007, 10:22:01
I used to have a ZZR1100c... :D

Not much better out there I have to say. Mine was also derestricted with a couple of mods (previous owner) and it went like an absolute rocket!

I like the Blackbird also, a friend has one (had it since new in 1999) but it feels "softer" and less urgent. Still excellent to ride though. :)

Not ridden for a few years now, came off, and just missed an artic... makes you realise how exposed you are! Also SWMBO has made her feelings rather clear!  :-[

I think the roads would be a heck of a lot safer if everyone had to be on a bike for 6 months before learning to drive!
Most motorists lack of road awareness is firghtening.
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 January 2007, 11:12:38
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I used to have bikes - went up to 600cc and that was pretty fast!
Boys bikes ;)

It was pretty quick 145 is not slow, acceleration - well it did shift, handling was quite good but a 250 was quicker in slow tight corners.

I managed to leave behind a hard driven Sierra with picnic table on the boot.

My first proper bike was a 100cc one as I was still at school and lived in the countryside. It was a Suzuki GP100 - first 100cc bike with a real front brake - it did brilliant stoppies! Can't remember if twin piston or sliding caliper. I ended up tuning it as well, acheivements include a Honda CB125T and a GP125, it was up geared and still pulled hard into the red. Genuine 80mph was easily achieved (still accelerating before a RB)
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: TheBoy on 03 January 2007, 11:38:58
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It was pretty quick 145 is not slow, acceleration - well it did shift, handling was quite good but a 250 was quicker in slow tight corners.

I managed to leave behind a hard driven Sierra with picnic table on the boot.
Any 250 or higher should leave any standard car for dust...
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Elite Pete on 03 January 2007, 11:58:28
My last bike was a mint RD 400E in yellow but the wife made me sell it a couple of years ago because I used to say on a Sunday morning " Im just nipping out for a couple of hours" and id be gone all day so she put her foot down :'(. But I am looking for a GPZ 900R on a 91/92 reg the first super bike and cheap to insure considering :)

The old girl :)
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Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: TheBoy on 03 January 2007, 13:05:33
my zx10 is only around £140 - age makes it classic
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 January 2007, 14:11:37
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It was pretty quick 145 is not slow, acceleration - well it did shift, handling was quite good but a 250 was quicker in slow tight corners.

I managed to leave behind a hard driven Sierra with picnic table on the boot.
Any 250 or higher should leave any standard car for dust...

Hmm I'd say a standard high 20s bhp 250 is similar in acceleration to a say a 2.0 H/C Carlton (remember I used to deliver cars)
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: TheBoy on 03 January 2007, 14:14:33
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It was pretty quick 145 is not slow, acceleration - well it did shift, handling was quite good but a 250 was quicker in slow tight corners.

I managed to leave behind a hard driven Sierra with picnic table on the boot.
Any 250 or higher should leave any standard car for dust...

Hmm I'd say a standard high 20s bhp 250 is similar in acceleration to a say a 2.0 H/C Carlton (remember I used to deliver cars)
A decent 250 should be 40+bhp, and the last one I was one was a flyer...
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: TheBoy on 03 January 2007, 14:18:56
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It was pretty quick 145 is not slow, acceleration - well it did shift, handling was quite good but a 250 was quicker in slow tight corners.

I managed to leave behind a hard driven Sierra with picnic table on the boot.
Any 250 or higher should leave any standard car for dust...

Hmm I'd say a standard high 20s bhp 250 is similar in acceleration to a say a 2.0 H/C Carlton (remember I used to deliver cars)
On a slightly different subject, have they fitted that dsl service yet?
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 January 2007, 14:57:24
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It was pretty quick 145 is not slow, acceleration - well it did shift, handling was quite good but a 250 was quicker in slow tight corners.

I managed to leave behind a hard driven Sierra with picnic table on the boot.
Any 250 or higher should leave any standard car for dust...

Hmm I'd say a standard high 20s bhp 250 is similar in acceleration to a say a 2.0 H/C Carlton (remember I used to deliver cars)
A decent 250 should be 40+bhp, and the last one I was one was a flyer...


Mine was 27bhp, the 100 was 12 then at least 15bhp, the 600 was 85bhp.

My 100 would just about keep up with friends Superdreams, at the time most 250s were 27bhp except for the X7, most 100s struggled to get much over 65 and mine was the first capable of genuine 70 as well as being first hydraulic disc braked 100.

Polished & raised ports, Micron pipe, bigger jet and an extra tooth on front sprocket made it quick for its engine size.

I ran a few 250 TSCC Suzuki 250s while poor (unemployed then rubbish jobs) fragile electrics but went OK.

Got a 600 when I got a full time job - got done for totting up within a year so I moved to a less anti bike area and joined the car world
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 January 2007, 14:59:37
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It was pretty quick 145 is not slow, acceleration - well it did shift, handling was quite good but a 250 was quicker in slow tight corners.

I managed to leave behind a hard driven Sierra with picnic table on the boot.
Any 250 or higher should leave any standard car for dust...

Hmm I'd say a standard high 20s bhp 250 is similar in acceleration to a say a 2.0 H/C Carlton (remember I used to deliver cars)
On a slightly different subject, have they fitted that dsl service yet?


If it isn't working by the weeked I want free for another month >:(

Bl**dy incompetents

I thought Onetel problems were with ISDN as well - nope they are as bad with modems as well - also how can anyone put up with 30 second connection times is beyond me.

I should have insisted in HH reinstall while I waited and waited and waited - I'm phoning tonight!
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 January 2007, 15:00:40
FOrgot to mention Onetel were fine until recently I think their takeover has ruined them!
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: The Barge Captain on 03 January 2007, 15:01:33
Go on Tunnie - do it.  It's such a laugh.
Used to have a ZRX1100 before i gave up work to look after the kids.  Had to sell it as didn't have time to ride it, and needed the money to buy my first Omega and pay of a few debts.  Miss it like hell though.  Had a detuned ZZR1100 motor, so not as fast but wow, it sure was great fun.  Always wanted a ZZR1100 as out and out sports bikes are not my thang.
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: TheBoy on 03 January 2007, 15:20:40
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I thought Onetel problems were with ISDN as well - nope they are as bad with modems as well - also how can anyone put up with 30 second connection times is beyond me.
How anyone tolerates HH (ie, ISDN with all the features removed) now is beyond me ;)

You'll probably find that the modem stuff terminates on the same equipment, and goes through same network kit, hence just as bad
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: TheBoy on 03 January 2007, 15:22:37
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TB has a bike, but a ZZR 1100 is a fast bike!  :o
ZZR1100 is a better all round bike than mine. I think it was the replacement for mine.

However, Tunnie, if ever you fancy a go on the back, and you think you're man enough ;)
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Elite Pete on 03 January 2007, 15:30:50
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Like that is it :o ;D
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: mijfife on 03 January 2007, 16:06:35
Pete, there's an excellent forum for ther GPZ900R at www.gpz900r.co.uk  It's only something like a fiver to join for the year and that gives you a reasonable discount with Footman James so worth every penny.  :)

Cheers Jim
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Elite Pete on 03 January 2007, 16:14:20
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Pete, there's an excellent forum for ther GPZ900R at www.gpz900r.co.uk  It's only something like a fiver to join for the year and that gives you a reasonable discount with Footman James so worth every penny.  :)

Cheers Jim

Thanks Jim I will have a go at that :y
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Turk on 04 January 2007, 13:14:31
Main thing to remember is the ZZR is a sports/tourer whilst the GSXR is a sports bike. The riding position is more extreme on the Gixxer, especially if you have a long inside leg. Although former GP rider Kevin Schwantz has a 34" inside leg and he did "reasonably" well (lol !!).
You may find it a bit cramped compared to the Kwacker.
 
It depends what you use the bike for..and how often you need more than 150mph  

I've had a reasonable cross section over the years. CB200,CB400,DT250MX,CX500B,CBR600,VFR750FL,GSXR750,GS850G,GS1000, CBR1000,GSXR1100M, CB1100 X-11, and after years of ridiculing "tractors",  I now have a "Hardly Movinson" 1200 Sportster...and I luvs it !!

Ok, it ain't a standard motor..and it handles and stops like a pig on a pogo stick, but there's just something about it.
  
I think it's the fact that I just can't ride "head down, @rse up" bikes sensibly. where as the H-D still has plenty of stomp, a certain BMW M3 driver learnt that. (mind you, that surprised me too !) but also there's "that sound".
 
What ever you go for...if it makes ya grin, tha's made the right choice !!
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: familyman on 04 January 2007, 19:59:01
Hmmm what do i use the bike for.  Going to work unless the weather looks to dodgy, although enjoying the 'meega and exhaust note at the mo.  sunday rides, or just out playing down the lanes. Had some heart stoppers recently with 140+ bhp and 1 back wheel and leaves and damp patches on the roads. There can be a thin line between grin factor and grimace factor. Still after the heartstoppers you look back and then start grinning again pop up the front wheel and away you go till the next time :y

Yes the gpz900 and zrx1100 are all part of the same family from kwaka. The Gpz being the daddy. :)

How's the ZX10 TheBoy, heard they can be a bit wild at the best of times.

Must admit Turk HD's don't do it for me yet, but you never know in the future, must be nice in their sitting position for long cruising?
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: TheBoy on 04 January 2007, 21:06:41
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How's the ZX10 TheBoy, heard they can be a bit wild at the best of times.
Scary :D

Handles far better with front tyre quite hard - front end seems to bottom out less, and the front end bottomed out under heavy braking dyes my pants a dark colour....
Title: Re: Any bikers
Post by: Martin_1962 on 04 January 2007, 23:11:52
My scariest moment was losing the front then the rear then the front again then the rear again.

I was amazed I didn't fall off!

Diesel on road >:(