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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 27 December 2008, 00:50:42
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These days mobos do not come with many PCI slots. What can you do if you have no free slot and want to install a sound card. (I'm currently using the mobo's own audio, but have a few issues with it.)
Suggestions, perchance? ;)
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Not use a micro ATX motherboard? :y
In seriousness, if you have no slots left and want to add more, you may need to upgrade case and board?
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Use usb speakers.. :y
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I've a good video card with fan, a USB PCI card (all USB slots used) and lastly a PCI I/O card to handle two of my three HDDs.
My sound setup using the mobo is OK, in fact great for music. It's just that it doesn't support hardware acceleration and that is giving me a few issues with FSX (my Christmas pressie!). I can live with the current setup for now, but the freezes and crackling sound when I'm just about to land a 757 can be annoying! ;) ;D
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I've a good video card with fan, a USB PCI card (all USB slots used) and lastly a PCI I/O card to handle two of my three HDDs.
My sound setup using the mobo is OK, in fact great for music. It's just that it doesn't support hardware acceleration and that is giving me a few issues with FSX (my Christmas pressie!). I can live with the current setup for now, but the freezes and crackling sound when I'm just about to land a 757 can be annoying! ;) ;D
You have a runway in your back garden. ::)
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I've a good video card with fan, a USB PCI card (all USB slots used) and lastly a PCI I/O card to handle two of my three HDDs.
My sound setup using the mobo is OK, in fact great for music. It's just that it doesn't support hardware acceleration and that is giving me a few issues with FSX (my Christmas pressie!). I can live with the current setup for now, but the freezes and crackling sound when I'm just about to land a 757 can be annoying! ;) ;D
You have a runway in your back garden. ::)
You mean you DON'T have one?
How quaintly rural you are! ;) ;D
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I've a good video card with fan, a USB PCI card (all USB slots used) and lastly a PCI I/O card to handle two of my three HDDs.
My sound setup using the mobo is OK, in fact great for music. It's just that it doesn't support hardware acceleration and that is giving me a few issues with FSX (my Christmas pressie!). I can live with the current setup for now, but the freezes and crackling sound when I'm just about to land a 757 can be annoying! ;) ;D
You have a runway in your back garden. ::)
You mean you DON'T have one?
How quaintly rural you are! ;) ;D
Only space for a helicopter landing pad here.... ;D
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I've a good video card with fan, a USB PCI card (all USB slots used) and lastly a PCI I/O card to handle two of my three HDDs.
My sound setup using the mobo is OK, in fact great for music. It's just that it doesn't support hardware acceleration and that is giving me a few issues with FSX (my Christmas pressie!). I can live with the current setup for now, but the freezes and crackling sound when I'm just about to land a 757 can be annoying! ;) ;D
You have a runway in your back garden. ::)
You mean you DON'T have one?
How quaintly rural you are! ;) ;D
Only space for a helicopter landing pad here.... ;D
Ah, yes, The legendary Spongebob chopper. I'd forgotten about that! ;) ;D ;D
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Take out the USB.PCI card to give you the spare slot you require and then get a Powered USB hub.
But in all fairness depending on budget I would ne tempted for a Motherboard upgrade.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Search.aspx?q=USB+Hub
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Belkin-Link-it-F5U703UKLI-7-Port-Mini-USB11-HUB-with-Power-Supply-Cables
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Take out the USB.PCI card to give you the spare slot you require and then get a Powered USB hub.
But in all fairness depending on budget I would ne tempted for a Motherboard upgrade.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Search.aspx?q=USB+Hub
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Belkin-Link-it-F5U703UKLI-7-Port-Mini-USB11-HUB-with-Power-Supply-Cables
Thanks, Skruntie. I'll look into that :y
A mobo upgrade is an expensive option to cure a problem that only affects a game. Then again, I do need my small pleasures... ;) ;D
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What's your frame rate when flying at 3000 feet over london? If it's less than 25, you'll be needing a whole load of new suff to go with the sound card.
Like a new mobo, graphics card and possibly some fast HDDs.
FS is very power hungry.
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These days mobos do not come with many PCI slots. What can you do if you have no free slot and want to install a sound card. (I'm currently using the mobo's own audio, but have a few issues with it.)
Suggestions, perchance? ;)
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/store/pcw_page.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1176725957.1230369530@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccdadegddlkjdhcflgceggdhhmdfom.0&page=Product&fm=null&sm=null&tm=null&sku=684062&category_oid= you could try one of these
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You can get USB sound cards.
I'd be inclined tho to get a proper motherboard with adequate pci slots!!
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You can get USB sound cards.
I'd be inclined tho to get a proper motherboard with adequate pci slots!!
One of my problems is the video card. It is very good but the fan makes it twice as thick in profile and I think it is obstructing a spare slot. I need to have a closer look. Does it matter which slot the video card goes in? At the moment it's at the top, but maybe I'm thinking I could put it on the bottom slot and perhaps free a space up. Hmm. Maybe I'll do an exploratory operation a bit later.
Bandit127: I haven't tried the frame rate check yet. I'll try it later and report back.
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You can get USB sound cards.
I'd be inclined tho to get a proper motherboard with adequate pci slots!!
One of my problems is the video card. It is very good but the fan makes it twice as thick in profile and I think it is obstructing a spare slot. I need to have a closer look. Does it matter which slot the video card goes in? At the moment it's at the top, but maybe I'm thinking I could put it on the bottom slot and perhaps free a space up. Hmm. Maybe I'll do an exploratory operation a bit later.
Bandit127: I haven't tried the frame rate check yet. I'll try it later and report back.
It needs to go in the x16 slot (possibly x8 if a budget card). x16 slot will be the longest. Most consumer mobos have 1 x16 and rest x1 or x4 (exception being SLI boards, which tend to have 2 x8 slots instead of one x16)
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I dont use speakers,I have to use head set !
With FSX running hold down shift key and press Z 3 times you will see live what frame rate your getting !
Have you got service pack 2 yet ?
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Hell What have you installed in the pci slots on your mobo ?
You must have some stuff I dont use all I got for major gaming stuff is a 8800 gtx gr/crd that does take up extra room but not a pci slot as they are set further over other side of the 2nd Gr card slot (sli) there is only 2 pci slots & one is occupied my Creative Fatality XFi sound card other slot is empty ...so what else you got filling up pci slots ?
I too have to use a soundcard as the onboard sound is Naff no 5.1 set up available.
Did have a Hauppage tv card installed (rubbish pic) but removed it after buying a £20 tv /usb gizmo that works a treat and is removable so can stick it my old laptop when i need ! ;) :y
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I dont use speakers,I have to use head set !
With FSX running hold down shift key and press Z 3 times you will see live what frame rate your getting !
Have you got service pack 2 yet ?
At 3,000ft over London, I'm getting 12-13fps. Not good, but it didn't freeze on me at all just now! Target is set at 20fps. I've only got SP1 at the moment. I'll dig out SP2 on the MS website later. :y
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Hell What have you installed in the pci slots on your mobo ?
You must have some stuff I dont use all I got for major gaming stuff is a 8800 gtx gr/crd that does take up extra room but not a pci slot as they are set further over other side of the 2nd Gr card slot (sli) there is only 2 pci slots & one is occupied my Creative Fatality XFi sound card other slot is empty ...so what else you got filling up pci slots ?
I too have to use a soundcard as the onboard sound is Naff no 5.1 set up available.
Did have a Hauppage tv card installed (rubbish pic) but removed it after buying a £20 tv /usb gizmo that works a treat and is removable so can stick it my old laptop when i need ! ;) :y
I've a PCI Express video card, USB add-on PCI card and an IDE controller card.
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Hell What have you installed in the pci slots on your mobo ?
You must have some stuff I dont use all I got for major gaming stuff is a 8800 gtx gr/crd that does take up extra room but not a pci slot as they are set further over other side of the 2nd Gr card slot (sli) there is only 2 pci slots & one is occupied my Creative Fatality XFi sound card other slot is empty ...so what else you got filling up pci slots ?
I too have to use a soundcard as the onboard sound is Naff no 5.1 set up available.
Did have a Hauppage tv card installed (rubbish pic) but removed it after buying a £20 tv /usb gizmo that works a treat and is removable so can stick it my old laptop when i need ! ;) :y
I've a PCI Express video card, USB add-on PCI card and an IDE controller card.
Right much like me just 2 pci slots... guess you only have sata connections then on mobo (hence the ide controller) plus as Skruntie mentioned just buy a cheapo usb hub £5 ish on egay , if I ever do run short of a usb port i have used an old memory card reader as it as 3 extra usb outlets on it . :y :y
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Hell What have you installed in the pci slots on your mobo ?
You must have some stuff I dont use all I got for major gaming stuff is a 8800 gtx gr/crd that does take up extra room but not a pci slot as they are set further over other side of the 2nd Gr card slot (sli) there is only 2 pci slots & one is occupied my Creative Fatality XFi sound card other slot is empty ...so what else you got filling up pci slots ?
I too have to use a soundcard as the onboard sound is Naff no 5.1 set up available.
Did have a Hauppage tv card installed (rubbish pic) but removed it after buying a £20 tv /usb gizmo that works a treat and is removable so can stick it my old laptop when i need ! ;) :y
I've a PCI Express video card, USB add-on PCI card and an IDE controller card.
Right much like me just 2 pci slots... guess you only have sata connections then on mobo (hence the ide controller) plus as Skruntie mentioned just buy a cheapo usb hub £5 ish on egay , if I ever do run short of a usb port i have used an old memory card reader as it as 3 extra usb outlets on it . :y :y
Yep, one Sata HDD and two IDE HDDs.
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I dont use speakers,I have to use head set !
With FSX running hold down shift key and press Z 3 times you will see live what frame rate your getting !
Have you got service pack 2 yet ?
At 3,000ft over London, I'm getting 12-13fps. Not good, but it didn't freeze on me at all just now! Target is set at 20fps. I've only got SP1 at the moment. I'll dig out SP2 on the MS website later. :y
sp3 is ready :y
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Take out the USB.PCI card to give you the spare slot you require and then get a Powered USB hub.
But in all fairness depending on budget I would ne tempted for a Motherboard upgrade.
http://www.scan.co.uk/Search.aspx?q=USB+Hub
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Belkin-Link-it-F5U703UKLI-7-Port-Mini-USB11-HUB-with-Power-Supply-Cables
agreed..
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I dont use speakers,I have to use head set !
With FSX running hold down shift key and press Z 3 times you will see live what frame rate your getting !
Have you got service pack 2 yet ?
At 3,000ft over London, I'm getting 12-13fps. Not good, but it didn't freeze on me at all just now! Target is set at 20fps. I've only got SP1 at the moment. I'll dig out SP2 on the MS website later. :y
sp3 is ready :y
Are we talking XP service packs, or FSX service packs? I think I'm up to date with XP and I installed the FSX SP1 a couple of days ago. :-?
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Im talking FSX sp2. It sorts out quite a few graphic problems.
Another tip: Turn off the clouds they consume loads of memory. ::)
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I dont use speakers,I have to use head set !
With FSX running hold down shift key and press Z 3 times you will see live what frame rate your getting !
Have you got service pack 2 yet ?
At 3,000ft over London, I'm getting 12-13fps. Not good, but it didn't freeze on me at all just now! Target is set at 20fps. I've only got SP1 at the moment. I'll dig out SP2 on the MS website later. :y
sp3 is ready :y
Are we talking XP service packs, or FSX service packs? I think I'm up to date with XP and I installed the FSX SP1 a couple of days ago. :-?
XP sp3..
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Im talking FSX sp2. It sorts out quite a few graphic problems.
Another tip: Turn off the clouds they consume loads of memory. ::)
Thanks Iain! :y
I'll check that later. What resolution do you run?
Incidentally, I don't know if you like flying civilian jets, but I got an email from "Captain Sim" a couple of days ago and all products will be EUR 9.99 on Monday. I quite fancy getting the B757 Captain package.
Here's the message and the link:
We are pleased to announce that exclusively at Captain Sim online store, on the 29 Dec ' 08 from 00:01 to 23:59 (GMT) everything is Euro 9.99! Visit us at: http://www.captainsim.com
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My system is:
AMD Athlon 2800 cpu (single core)
Nvidia 7300gt-512mb agp video card
frame rate 23 fps
Resolution 1280x1024x32
global texture = medium
On the page-Terrain & water
settings are:
Level of detail =medium
Mesh compexity=47
Mesh resolution=76m
texture resolution=2m
water effects=none
Scenery complexity=normal
Auto gen density=Dense (slider 60% to the right)
Special effect detail=low
I belive the 757 needs fsx sp2
Dont worry about your frame rates as mine can drop to 8 fps !
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Whats the best Flight Sim to get.
Just been looking at this.
http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/1124935/Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-X-Deluxe-Edition/Product.html
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mobo-PCI slot-micro ATX motherboard-HDD-FSX-IDE controller board,what are you all talking about ::) ::) ::) ::) ::).I just plug the puter in,turn it on and away I go :o
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IL-2_Sturmovik_(video_game)
For the shootem up.This is the best.
For civil FSX
But you need a high end PC to run it
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IL-2_Sturmovik_(video_game)
For the shootem up.This is the best.
For civil FSX
But you need a high end PC to run it
That link was a bit vague but I found this.
[media]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pWoijQubRMA[/media]
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Cheap enough
http://www.play.com/Search.aspx?searchtype=PC&searchstring=Sturmovik&page=search&pa=search&go.x=0&go.y=0
http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/866127/IL2-Complete-Edition-IL2-Sturmovik-Forgotten-Battles-+-Ace-Expasion-Pack-+-Pacific-Fighters/Product.html
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mobo-PCI slot-micro ATX motherboard-HDD-FSX-IDE controller board,what are you all talking about ::) ::) ::) ::) ::).I just plug the puter in,turn it on and away I go :o
AGHHHH but yours is speshial model a Welsh one its built to just sing along... ;D
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Whats the best Flight Sim to get.
Just been looking at this.
http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/1124935/Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-X-Deluxe-Edition/Product.html
That's what I've just got and I'm very impressed.
It all depends what you're after. Personally, I'm not so keen on the shoot -em up type sims, as I prefer civil airliners. Using this sim you can go out and purchase (what I may well do - see link above) a very complex aircraft. A friend of mine always starts his sim in a "cold and dark" scenario. He has to fire up all the electrical circuitry in his airbus, start the APU, go through all the pre-flight checks, program the flight director with waypoints, and so on. His daughter flew to Sharm-el-Sheik recently and, at the same time, he flew on the sim and "arrived" within a minute of his daughter in real time. Don't think I could ever get into it that much as I have a real life to lead ;), but it is VERY absorbing. I believe the RAF and many others use MS flightsim in training operations. It is very realistic, and great fun. :y
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I may well treat myself to that.
I also play a lot of Command and Conquer.
Unreal Tournament.
Need for Speed
Plus I have an Xbox and PS2 which I reckon at leat one of them will get updated in the new Year.
Might go for the Blueray on the PS3 and Gran Tourismo.
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Whats the best Flight Sim to get.
Just been looking at this.
http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/1124935/Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-X-Deluxe-Edition/Product.html
That's what I've just got and I'm very impressed.
It all depends what you're after. Personally, I'm not so keen on the shoot -em up type sims, as I prefer civil airliners. Using this sim you can go out and purchase (what I may well do - see link above) a very complex aircraft. A friend of mine always starts his sim in a "cold and dark" scenario. He has to fire up all the electrical circuitry in his airbus, start the APU, go through all the pre-flight checks, program the flight director with waypoints, and so on. His daughter flew to Sharm-el-Sheik recently and, at the same time, he flew on the sim and "arrived" within a minute of his daughter in real time. Don't think I could ever get into it that much as I have a real life to lead ;), but it is VERY absorbing. I believe the RAF and many others use MS flightsim in training operations. It is very realistic, and great fun. :y
I've heard you cant drive a bloody car tidy yet alone a plane.. :-X
Ok it was STMO who told me.. ;D
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You'll end up going the way of a couple of guys at the gliding club. 3 DLP projectors and the front half of an old glider fuselage with the controls hooked up to a PC, all in a darkened room. 8-)
To its' credit, it's very realistic, and we've had some success training pilots using it. (one of whom went solo after only a handful of flights in a "real" glider).
Kevin
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Whats the best Flight Sim to get.
Just been looking at this.
http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/1124935/Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-X-Deluxe-Edition/Product.html
That's what I've just got and I'm very impressed.
It all depends what you're after. Personally, I'm not so keen on the shoot -em up type sims, as I prefer civil airliners. Using this sim you can go out and purchase (what I may well do - see link above) a very complex aircraft. A friend of mine always starts his sim in a "cold and dark" scenario. He has to fire up all the electrical circuitry in his airbus, start the APU, go through all the pre-flight checks, program the flight director with waypoints, and so on. His daughter flew to Sharm-el-Sheik recently and, at the same time, he flew on the sim and "arrived" within a minute of his daughter in real time. Don't think I could ever get into it that much as I have a real life to lead ;), but it is VERY absorbing. I believe the RAF and many others use MS flightsim in training operations. It is very realistic, and great fun. :y
I've heard you cant drive a bloody car tidy yet alone a plane.. :-X
Ok it was STMO who told me.. ;D
He drives a wrong wheel drive Asterik, what makes him quailfied to comment.
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Whats the best Flight Sim to get.
Just been looking at this.
http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/1124935/Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-X-Deluxe-Edition/Product.html
That's what I've just got and I'm very impressed.
It all depends what you're after. Personally, I'm not so keen on the shoot -em up type sims, as I prefer civil airliners. Using this sim you can go out and purchase (what I may well do - see link above) a very complex aircraft. A friend of mine always starts his sim in a "cold and dark" scenario. He has to fire up all the electrical circuitry in his airbus, start the APU, go through all the pre-flight checks, program the flight director with waypoints, and so on. His daughter flew to Sharm-el-Sheik recently and, at the same time, he flew on the sim and "arrived" within a minute of his daughter in real time. Don't think I could ever get into it that much as I have a real life to lead ;), but it is VERY absorbing. I believe the RAF and many others use MS flightsim in training operations. It is very realistic, and great fun. :y
I've heard you cant drive a bloody car tidy yet alone a plane.. :-X
Ok it was STMO who told me.. ;D
What does he know?
...answers on a postage stamp, please, to...
;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I may well treat myself to that.
I also play a lot of Command and Conquer.
Unreal Tournament.
Need for Speed
Plus I have an Xbox and PS2 which I reckon at leat one of them will get updated in the new Year.
Might go for the Blueray on the PS3 and Gran Tourismo.
This film was all created on FSX. It's stunning, and amusing, but must have taken a huge amount of production.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fej9EWWLSsw
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Whats the best Flight Sim to get.
Just been looking at this.
http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/1124935/Microsoft-Flight-Simulator-X-Deluxe-Edition/Product.html
That's what I've just got and I'm very impressed.
It all depends what you're after. Personally, I'm not so keen on the shoot -em up type sims, as I prefer civil airliners. Using this sim you can go out and purchase (what I may well do - see link above) a very complex aircraft. A friend of mine always starts his sim in a "cold and dark" scenario. He has to fire up all the electrical circuitry in his airbus, start the APU, go through all the pre-flight checks, program the flight director with waypoints, and so on. His daughter flew to Sharm-el-Sheik recently and, at the same time, he flew on the sim and "arrived" within a minute of his daughter in real time. Don't think I could ever get into it that much as I have a real life to lead ;), but it is VERY absorbing. I believe the RAF and many others use MS flightsim in training operations. It is very realistic, and great fun. :y
I've heard you cant drive a bloody car tidy yet alone a plane.. :-X
Ok it was STMO who told me.. ;D
What does he know?
...answers on a postage stamp, please, to...
;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I wont be wasting a stamp, 1st and 2nd class have just gone up again.
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mobo-PCI slot-micro ATX motherboard-HDD-FSX-IDE controller board,what are you all talking about ::) ::) ::) ::) ::).I just plug the puter in,turn it on and away I go :o
AGHHHH but yours is speshial model a Welsh one its built to just sing along... ;D
lol you could be right,it's got a lot of music loaded :y :y