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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: character on 11 January 2009, 23:16:15
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Hello All
Just a friendly post to the member of your club I happened to come across this afternoon, silver omega estate with white "oemga owners club" sticker in the rear window towing a met gold omega saloon.
Whilst I appreciate that there are occassions where a vehicle enthusiast may wish to help another fellow member or feeling that he or she knows what they are doing perhaps this particular member may wish to think before he embarks upon a journey of illegality and of course potentially put his life or that of other road users at risk. I am sad to report such an incident this afternoon whilst displaying the good name of your club in the rear window.
The silver omega was pulling what seemed to be a decent omega saloon, however on an A frame (specifically allowed only for the removal of disabled vehicles from IMMEDIATE DANGER), the chap had placed two rear brake/tail lights run off a power feed from the towing vehicle, not a problem apart from the fact that the o/s was not working, THERE WERE NO INDICATORS fitted next to the part functioning rear tail lights, the law also says that ANY TOWING VEHICLE must display the number plate of the pulling vehicle, hence why recovery guys use a light bar with lights, the towing vehicle HAD NO REAR INDICATORS fitted to the car being towed, the offending vehicles were travelling at a slower speed than the normal traffic speed and thus HAS TO HAVE A BEACON FLASHING,(not hazard warning lights as that causes confusion to other motorists).
Given this rank amateurish and dam right illegal approach it begs the question whether he had the appropriate insurance cover for towing another vehicle (probably not), and if doing this act for some form of financial reward, whether he had a tachograph fitted to the towing vehicle.
If this is you and your happily reading this thread thinking you complete *******, let me just say I have posted this as a public flogging in order to save you from 6 points on your licence, impounding of your rather nice omega saloon and around £2-3000 fine from VOSA should there have been any money or the potential for money to be gifted by the recipient of the nice shinny gold omega.
Consider yourself flogged and just think before you do these things on the public highway. :D
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Hmmm.. I know who that is...
I will tell him
Edited: Decided its best not to stir!
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Love a public spanking :D
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Love a public spanking :D
You would ;D
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Does anyone know how to spell supercilious - unrelated of course. ::)
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Hello and welcome to the forum.
Be sure to post in the newbies section where you`ll get a warm welcome from some of the regulars ;)
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Does anyone know how to spell supercilious - unrelated of course. ::)
Thats a rather condescending thing to say Albs ;D
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Hello and welcome to the forum.
Be sure to post in the newbies section where you`ll get a warm welcome from from some of the regulars ;)
or maybe not. ;D
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Thought I may as well join in. ;)
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Hello All
Just a friendly post to the member of your club I happened to come across this afternoon, silver omega estate with white "oemga owners club" sticker in the rear window towing a met gold omega saloon.
Whilst I appreciate that there are occassions where a vehicle enthusiast may wish to help another fellow member or feeling that he or she knows what they are doing perhaps this particular member may wish to think before he embarks upon a journey of illegality and of course potentially put his life or that of other road users at risk. I am sad to report such an incident this afternoon whilst displaying the good name of your club in the rear window.
The silver omega was pulling what seemed to be a decent omega saloon, however on an A frame (specifically allowed only for the removal of disabled vehicles from IMMEDIATE DANGER), the chap had placed two rear brake/tail lights run off a power feed from the towing vehicle, not a problem apart from the fact that the o/s was not working, THERE WERE NO INDICATORS fitted next to the part functioning rear tail lights, the law also says that ANY TOWING VEHICLE must display the number plate of the pulling vehicle, hence why recovery guys use a light bar with lights, the towing vehicle HAD NO REAR INDICATORS fitted to the car being towed, the offending vehicles were travelling at a slower speed than the normal traffic speed and thus HAS TO HAVE A BEACON FLASHING,(not hazard warning lights as that causes confusion to other motorists).
Given this rank amateurish and dam right illegal approach it begs the question whether he had the appropriate insurance cover for towing another vehicle (probably not), and if doing this act for some form of financial reward, whether he had a tachograph fitted to the towing vehicle.
If this is you and your happily reading this thread thinking you complete *******, let me just say I have posted this as a public flogging in order to save you from 6 points on your licence, impounding of your rather nice omega saloon and around £2-3000 fine from VOSA should there have been any money or the potential for money to be gifted by the recipient of the nice shinny gold omega.
Consider yourself flogged and just think before you do these things on the public highway. :D
Where do you get from, never seen a big camper ::) A frames are used for towing long distance loads of times, I had a Landrover delivered from Cleveland to Hertfordshire, on an A fram and not orange light, and was being towed by a Landrover dealer using a series 1....... :-/
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The silver omega was pulling what seemed to be a decent omega saloon, however on an A frame (specifically allowed only for the removal of disabled vehicles from IMMEDIATE DANGER), the chap had placed two rear brake/tail lights run off a power feed from the towing vehicle, not a problem apart from the fact that the o/s was not working, THERE WERE NO INDICATORS fitted next to the part functioning rear tail lights, the law also says that ANY TOWING VEHICLE must display the number plate of the pulling vehicle, hence why recovery guys use a light bar with lights, the towing vehicle HAD NO REAR INDICATORS fitted to the car being towed, the offending vehicles were travelling at a slower speed than the normal traffic speed and thus HAS TO HAVE A BEACON FLASHING,(not hazard warning lights as that causes confusion to other motorists).
That seems strange :-/
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Sorry, but I think it's fair for "character" to post the message. If what he says is true, then I would say the member is a pr*t for doing this on a motorway. We all know that a short distance tow along a minor road, whilst not strictly legal, could be deemed a bit naughty, but towing like this along a motorway is frankly downright dangerous.
One of our trucker members reported the other day how he had problems with a vehicle on the motorway and nearly had a big smash. If this vehicle had missing lights, no indicators and was travelling excessivley slowly then he was endangering other M-way users and is lucky to get away with a public flogging. >:( ;)
Thank you "character". I also note your post was courteous, which is to be welcomed. :y
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Have to agree with you Nickbat. :y
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Just looked this up...
There is no need for a flashing beacon *AT ALL*
Limit on Motorways is 40mph when using a dollie, 20mph when not on motorway
Dollies are for recovery of of broken down vehicles, not for vehicle transportation
So, the fact they were slower means nothing. The fact they do *NOT* require a flashing hazard beacon.
Also as to what is highlighted...
You say that its for removal of disabled vehicles from IMMEDIATE DANGER (see what I did there?? I did capitals like you), well your wrong...
RT legislation states...
The use of "dollies" is intended for the recovery of broken down vehicles, not for the transportation of a vehicle from "A" to "B".
Note... Recovery of Vehicle.... There is no set distance defined for the 'Recovery'. If the vehicle is therefor unable to be driven due to being disabled, then going from the regs, it can be recovered perfectly normally. There is no maximum permisable distance specified anywhere. Also, as for moving from A to B, that is for vehicles *ONLY* which are 100% road legal and fit to drive.
If the car was being towed, that means its been bought as a breaker, which means its broken, disabled, unable to move under its own power.
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I agree with nickbat though in regards to the lighting, thats the only area of concern tbh.
But if you were on the motorway... how do you know the indicators were not working??
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Not sure you are right actually Paul... was told that on the motorway you needed a Dolly which raises the two front wheels...
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He said A Frame, not towing dollies..........
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Not sure you are right actually Paul... was told that on the motorway you needed a Dolly which raises the two front wheels...
Dollie is wheeled your right...
Ahwell, looks like I'm the one getting the spanking now next sunday :-/
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Have to agree with you Nickbat. :y
Yes in some ways I can agree....
BUT, how do we know that the 'Gold Mig' hasn't broken down on the motorway and 'Mr Joe Bloggs' had helped recover the vehicle? ::)
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I agree with nickbat though in regards to the lighting, thats the only area of concern tbh.
But if you were on the motorway... how do you know the indicators were not working??[/quote]
Hazards on the towing vehicle, not operating on the towed vehicle.
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Rather interesting info Paul.
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Looked again...
A-frame is classed as unbraked traler, so MGW towing weight is 750kg... anything more is illegal
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So who was it anyway :-X ;D
Own up, bend over and take yer flogging :P
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Actually I would hazard a guess that "character" is traffic officer (not on duty at the time). My reasons?
1) Close attention to detail of the vehicles involved
2) Precise knowledge of fines/points involved
3) Use of technical terms
and finally...
4) A soft spot for Omegas. ;) ;D
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Have to agree with you Nickbat. :y
Yes in some ways I can agree....
BUT, how do we know that the 'Gold Mig' hasn't broken down on the motorway and 'Mr Joe Bloggs' had helped recover the vehicle? ::)
Yes i agree, i wonder who this character is ?.
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Actually I would hazard a guess that "character" is traffic officer (not on duty at the time). My reasons?
1) Close attention to detail of the vehicles involved
2) Precise knowledge of fines/points involved
3) Use of technical terms
and finally...
4) A soft spot for Omegas. ;) ;D
:D :y
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cheers guys, sorry for dumping this on your forum but thought it would be more polite that ringing the rossers to get him pulled over.
Forgot to mention, lateish afternoon no lights or actually on the saloon omega, so me and an artic came upon him to see just one single 4inch x 4 inch tail light on the n/s rear, no "on tow" sign either.
Sorry to be a stickler, but I move vehicles around the country so I would like to think I know what I'm on about :)
ps to the poster regards the difference between a dolly and A frame, dolly has the front end of the disabled vehicle OFF THE ROAD, you're getting confused.
Flasing beacon IS REQUIRED should the vehicle combination be travelling at LESS THAN the traffic flow, he was doing 50 mph in lane one :y
Rant all yer want, at least it encourages others to be mindfull when towing and who knows you might even learn something ;D
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Not me
Character is right in what he says about A frames-
http://www.ntta.co.uk/faq/default.htm
"An A-frame or dolly can only be used to recover a broken down vehicle to a place of safety. Transporting a car is, therefore, illegal. A-frames may be offered with a braking system that applies the car's brakes. These do not conform to the law as the car then becomes a "braked trailer" and has to conform to European Directives contained within the Construction and Use Regulations. It does not conform to the European Directive 71/320/EEC and amendments regarding braking requirements in any way. The use of this A-frame for transportation is illegal. It is still OK for use to recover a vehicle to a place of safety."
and Note on A-Frames and Dollies, issued by the Department for Transport see http://www.ukmotorhomes.net/a-frames.shtml
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cheers guys, sorry for dumping this on your forum but thought it would be more polite that ringing the rossers to get him pulled over.
Forgot to mention, lateish afternoon no lights or actually on the saloon omega, so me and an artic came upon him to see just one single 4inch x 4 inch tail light on the n/s rear, no "on tow" sign either.
Sorry to be a stickler, but I move vehicles around the country so I would like to think I know what I'm on about :)
ps to the poster regards the difference between a dolly and A frame, dolly has the front end of the disabled vehicle OFF THE ROAD, you're getting confused.
Flasing beacon IS REQUIRED should the vehicle combination be travelling at LESS THAN the traffic flow, he was doing 50 mph in lane one :y
Rant all yer want, at least it encourages others to be mindfull when towing and who knows you might even learn something ;D
Can I delete my last post? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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ps to the poster regards the difference between a dolly and A frame, dolly has the front end of the disabled vehicle OFF THE ROAD, you're getting confused.
It's a permanent state I'm afraid ;D Especially when on the meds :D
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cheers guys, sorry for dumping this on your forum but thought it would be more polite that ringing the rossers to get him pulled over.
Forgot to mention, lateish afternoon no lights or actually on the saloon omega, so me and an artic came upon him to see just one single 4inch x 4 inch tail light on the n/s rear, no "on tow" sign either.
Sorry to be a stickler, but I move vehicles around the country so I would like to think I know what I'm on about :)
ps to the poster regards the difference between a dolly and A frame, dolly has the front end of the disabled vehicle OFF THE ROAD, you're getting confused.
Flasing beacon IS REQUIRED should the vehicle combination be travelling at LESS THAN the traffic flow, he was doing 50 mph in lane one :y
Rant all yer want, at least it encourages others to be mindfull when towing and who knows you might even learn something ;D
The minimum speed limit for an amber beacon on either a dual carriageway or motorway is, if I recall correctly, 25 mph....
... and the waggons etc would be limited to 56? So travelling at 6 mph slower than the regular users in lane one?
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BTW, welcome Character! :y
What is your mode of transport?
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Not me
Character is right in what he says about A frames-
http://www.ntta.co.uk/faq/default.htm
"An A-frame or dolly can only be used to recover a broken down vehicle to a place of safety. Transporting a car is, therefore, illegal. A-frames may be offered with a braking system that applies the car's brakes. These do not conform to the law as the car then becomes a "braked trailer" and has to conform to European Directives contained within the Construction and Use Regulations. It does not conform to the European Directive 71/320/EEC and amendments regarding braking requirements in any way. The use of this A-frame for transportation is illegal. It is still OK for use to recover a vehicle to a place of safety."
and Note on A-Frames and Dollies, issued by the Department for Transport see http://www.ukmotorhomes.net/a-frames.shtml
So what about all the big camper vans that tow a small car around with them.......... :-?
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cheers guys, sorry for dumping this on your forum but thought it would be more polite that ringing the rossers to get him pulled over.
Forgot to mention, lateish afternoon no lights or actually on the saloon omega, so me and an artic came upon him to see just one single 4inch x 4 inch tail light on the n/s rear, no "on tow" sign either.
Sorry to be a stickler, but I move vehicles around the country so I would like to think I know what I'm on about :)
ps to the poster regards the difference between a dolly and A frame, dolly has the front end of the disabled vehicle OFF THE ROAD, you're getting confused.
Flasing beacon IS REQUIRED should the vehicle combination be travelling at LESS THAN the traffic flow, he was doing 50 mph in lane one :y
Rant all yer want, at least it encourages others to be mindfull when towing and who knows you might even learn something ;D
The minimum speed limit for an amber beacon on either a dual carriageway or motorway is, if I recall correctly, 25 mph....
... and the waggons etc would be limited to 56? 6 mph slower than in lane one?
And Hotel21 knows his onions, because he's a ro**er.... I mean a police officer. ;) ;) ;D
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Not me
Character is right in what he says about A frames-
http://www.ntta.co.uk/faq/default.htm
"An A-frame or dolly can only be used to recover a broken down vehicle to a place of safety. Transporting a car is, therefore, illegal. A-frames may be offered with a braking system that applies the car's brakes. These do not conform to the law as the car then becomes a "braked trailer" and has to conform to European Directives contained within the Construction and Use Regulations. It does not conform to the European Directive 71/320/EEC and amendments regarding braking requirements in any way. The use of this A-frame for transportation is illegal. It is still OK for use to recover a vehicle to a place of safety."
and Note on A-Frames and Dollies, issued by the Department for Transport see http://www.ukmotorhomes.net/a-frames.shtml
So what about all the big camper vans that tow a small car around with them.......... :-?
Illegal unless gross weight of towed car < 750Kg!!
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BTW, welcome Character! :y
What is your mode of transport?
A breakdown truck by chance?
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Not me
Character is right in what he says about A frames-
http://www.ntta.co.uk/faq/default.htm
"An A-frame or dolly can only be used to recover a broken down vehicle to a place of safety. Transporting a car is, therefore, illegal. A-frames may be offered with a braking system that applies the car's brakes. These do not conform to the law as the car then becomes a "braked trailer" and has to conform to European Directives contained within the Construction and Use Regulations. It does not conform to the European Directive 71/320/EEC and amendments regarding braking requirements in any way. The use of this A-frame for transportation is illegal. It is still OK for use to recover a vehicle to a place of safety."
and Note on A-Frames and Dollies, issued by the Department for Transport see http://www.ukmotorhomes.net/a-frames.shtml
So what about all the big camper vans that tow a small car around with them.......... :-?
From the link quoted previously...
I have a motor home and want to tow a Fiat Seicento behind it using an A-frame. This car has a kerb weight under 750 kg so am I legal with this outfit? Sorry no is the answer. The law regards this as an unbraked trailer and you are allowed to tow up to 750 kg Gross Trailer Weight, not a car’s kerb weight. The figure you have to use is the car’s Gross Vehicle Weight or Maximum Permitted Weight. This is usually at least 300 - 400 kg more than the kerb weight. We have no knowledge of any car sold in the UK that has a GVW under 750 kg. The only vehicle we know that is completely legal to tow with an A-frame is the French Aixam small "car". This is a full four seater and details can be obtained from Aixam UK on 01926 886100. An A-frame or dolly can only be used to recover a broken down vehicle to a place of safety. Transporting a car is, therefore, illegal. A-frames may be offered with a braking system that applies the car's brakes. These do not conform to the law as the car then becomes a "braked trailer" and has to conform to European Directives contained within the Construction and Use Regulations. It does not conform to the European Directive 71/320/EEC and amendments regarding braking requirements in any way. The use of this A-frame for transportation is illegal. It is still OK for use to recover a vehicle to a place of safety.
What unbraked trailer can I tow? You can tow a maximum of 750 Kg with an unbraked trailer but you cannot exceed half the kerb weight of the towing vehicle. You can tow a trailer with a Gross Weight higher than your car’s towing limit as long as you only load it up to that limit. It is illegal to exceed the car’s towing limit.
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BTW, welcome Character! :y
What is your mode of transport?
A breakdown truck by chance?
Smarty pants! ;) ;D ;D ;D
I meant his private transport (could be a Miggy!) :y
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Not me
Character is right in what he says about A frames-
http://www.ntta.co.uk/faq/default.htm
"An A-frame or dolly can only be used to recover a broken down vehicle to a place of safety. Transporting a car is, therefore, illegal. A-frames may be offered with a braking system that applies the car's brakes. These do not conform to the law as the car then becomes a "braked trailer" and has to conform to European Directives contained within the Construction and Use Regulations. It does not conform to the European Directive 71/320/EEC and amendments regarding braking requirements in any way. The use of this A-frame for transportation is illegal. It is still OK for use to recover a vehicle to a place of safety."
and Note on A-Frames and Dollies, issued by the Department for Transport see http://www.ukmotorhomes.net/a-frames.shtml
I rest my case, the towing vehicle didnt look disabled, in fact looked rather nice and clean as if he'd just bought it, the fact that he had additional lights (if not working correctly) goes to show that he oe she might be in the habbit if doing this.
The other point, if the vehicle is being towed on a A frame, then it should also have to RFL as all four wheels are on the highway and insurance, bet you didnt know that one :)
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BTW, welcome Character! :y
What is your mode of transport?
A breakdown truck by chance?
I suspect, but none the less welcome... :y
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The other point, if the vehicle is being towed on a A frame, then it should also have to RFL as all four wheels are on the highway and insurance, bet you didnt know that one :)
Common knowledge ;) Even if its towed and 1 wheel is on the road, you still need RFL, Insurance, etc...
Has to be a complete 4-wheel lift on a trailer if there is none of the above :)
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Looked again...
A-frame is classed as unbraked traler, so MGW towing weight is 750kg... anything more is illegal
100% Correct, and the Max unbraked for a 3.0l MV6 Estate (Which it was) is 750kg, or 1700kg braked... Which is why I didn't bother getting an A Frame myself a bit ago.
What ever way you look at it, an Omega CANNOT legaly tow an Omega anyway, its just too heavy regardless of everything else.
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BTW, welcome Character! :y
What is your mode of transport?
A breakdown truck by chance?
I suspect, but none the less welcome... :y
its white, it has 4 wheels and........ a tacho ;D
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BTW, welcome Character! :y
What is your mode of transport?
I'd guess its a "high horse"
sorry but that dude needs to get a life
Doug
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BTW, welcome Character! :y
What is your mode of transport?
I'd guess its a "high horse"
sorry but that dude needs to get a life
Doug
Chap obviously does it (car transport etc) to earn a wage....
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Hello All
Just a friendly post to the member of your club I happened to come across this afternoon, silver omega estate with white "oemga owners club" sticker in the rear window towing a met gold omega saloon.
Whilst I appreciate that there are occassions where a vehicle enthusiast may wish to help another fellow member or feeling that he or she knows what they are doing perhaps this particular member may wish to think before he embarks upon a journey of illegality and of course potentially put his life or that of other road users at risk. I am sad to report such an incident this afternoon whilst displaying the good name of your club in the rear window.
The silver omega was pulling what seemed to be a decent omega saloon, however on an A frame (specifically allowed only for the removal of disabled vehicles from IMMEDIATE DANGER), the chap had placed two rear brake/tail lights run off a power feed from the towing vehicle, not a problem apart from the fact that the o/s was not working, THERE WERE NO INDICATORS fitted next to the part functioning rear tail lights, the law also says that ANY TOWING VEHICLE must display the number plate of the pulling vehicle, hence why recovery guys use a light bar with lights, the towing vehicle HAD NO REAR INDICATORS fitted to the car being towed, the offending vehicles were travelling at a slower speed than the normal traffic speed and thus HAS TO HAVE A BEACON FLASHING,(not hazard warning lights as that causes confusion to other motorists).
Given this rank amateurish and dam right illegal approach it begs the question whether he had the appropriate insurance cover for towing another vehicle (probably not), and if doing this act for some form of financial reward, whether he had a tachograph fitted to the towing vehicle.
If this is you and your happily reading this thread thinking you complete *******, let me just say I have posted this as a public flogging in order to save you from 6 points on your licence, impounding of your rather nice omega saloon and around £2-3000 fine from VOSA should there have been any money or the potential for money to be gifted by the recipient of the nice shinny gold omega.
Consider yourself flogged and just think before you do these things on the public highway. :D
That's something I will have to remember when my son breaks down on the motorway and I receive a call from the Traffic cops asking me to tow him off or be liable for payment of a recovery vehicle. Do I tell them that a Don't have a tachograph or a beacon in my car aye right.
Sorry cops just want a vehicle moved as soon as possible of the hard shoulder and couldn't care less about beacons,insurance etc.
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Not me
Character is right in what he says about A frames-
http://www.ntta.co.uk/faq/default.htm
"An A-frame or dolly can only be used to recover a broken down vehicle to a place of safety. Transporting a car is, therefore, illegal. A-frames may be offered with a braking system that applies the car's brakes. These do not conform to the law as the car then becomes a "braked trailer" and has to conform to European Directives contained within the Construction and Use Regulations. It does not conform to the European Directive 71/320/EEC and amendments regarding braking requirements in any way. The use of this A-frame for transportation is illegal. It is still OK for use to recover a vehicle to a place of safety."
and Note on A-Frames and Dollies, issued by the Department for Transport see http://www.ukmotorhomes.net/a-frames.shtml
I rest my case, the towing vehicle didnt look disabled, in fact looked rather nice and clean as if he'd just bought it, the fact that he had additional lights (if not working correctly) goes to show that he oe she might be in the habbit if doing this.
The other point, if the vehicle is being towed on a A frame, then it should also have to RFL as all four wheels are on the highway and insurance, bet you didnt know that one :)
I do know that Mr Bloggs has a habbit of buying nice clean Omegas to repair / break... Often they visually look fine, but have either dead engines (Ie cambelt snapped) or gearboxes etc which is possibly the reason its been towed.
I didnt know about RFL, I thought that if its attached to another car your covered and the same for insurance as its just a trailor (only 3rd party on the trailor though)... Learn something new everyday if thats the case anyway :y
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I agree with nickbat though in regards to the lighting, thats the only area of concern tbh.
But if you were on the motorway... how do you know the indicators were not working??[/quote]
Hazards on the towing vehicle, not operating on the towed vehicle.
neither working on the towing vehicle nor the vehicle being towed I'm afraid in this instance, that's the fact that the roof line of both vehicles was the same so you had to think for a moment what were you coming up behind, which of course means you're on him before you know it !! :o
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Hello All
Just a friendly post to the member of your club I happened to come across this afternoon, silver omega estate with white "oemga owners club" sticker in the rear window towing a met gold omega saloon.
Whilst I appreciate that there are occassions where a vehicle enthusiast may wish to help another fellow member or feeling that he or she knows what they are doing perhaps this particular member may wish to think before he embarks upon a journey of illegality and of course potentially put his life or that of other road users at risk. I am sad to report such an incident this afternoon whilst displaying the good name of your club in the rear window.
The silver omega was pulling what seemed to be a decent omega saloon, however on an A frame (specifically allowed only for the removal of disabled vehicles from IMMEDIATE DANGER), the chap had placed two rear brake/tail lights run off a power feed from the towing vehicle, not a problem apart from the fact that the o/s was not working, THERE WERE NO INDICATORS fitted next to the part functioning rear tail lights, the law also says that ANY TOWING VEHICLE must display the number plate of the pulling vehicle, hence why recovery guys use a light bar with lights, the towing vehicle HAD NO REAR INDICATORS fitted to the car being towed, the offending vehicles were travelling at a slower speed than the normal traffic speed and thus HAS TO HAVE A BEACON FLASHING,(not hazard warning lights as that causes confusion to other motorists).
Given this rank amateurish and dam right illegal approach it begs the question whether he had the appropriate insurance cover for towing another vehicle (probably not), and if doing this act for some form of financial reward, whether he had a tachograph fitted to the towing vehicle.
If this is you and your happily reading this thread thinking you complete *******, let me just say I have posted this as a public flogging in order to save you from 6 points on your licence, impounding of your rather nice omega saloon and around £2-3000 fine from VOSA should there have been any money or the potential for money to be gifted by the recipient of the nice shinny gold omega.
Consider yourself flogged and just think before you do these things on the public highway. :D
That's something I will have to remember when my son breaks down on the motorway and I receive a call from the Traffic cops asking me to tow him off or be liable for payment of a recovery vehicle. Do I tell them that a Don't have a tachograph or a beacon in my car aye right.
Sorry cops just want a vehicle moved as soon as possible of the hard shoulder and couldn't care less about beacons,insurance etc.
Yes and no...
Cops want the roads kept safe for all but cannot condone the use of ropes etc to remove vehicles unlawfully. Thats why Trafpol had towropes removed from the vehicles ages ago and now all operate on managed recovery schemes.
If a rope was allowed to be used and it snapped and caused a multi pile up and loss of life then, in this litigaous age, would you, as the surviving relative, quietly say that they were just trying to get a job done? Dont think so....
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I towed a Miggy back from North Devon on an "A_Frame" at 50-55mph. Mr Plod was in lane 1 travelling at 50mph so i went into lane 2 to overtake. I wasn't even given a second look. Tail lights and plate but No Beacon.
Although I have now changed towing vehicles to a Range Rover I was using another Mig at the time.
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BTW, welcome Character! :y
What is your mode of transport?
A breakdown truck by chance?
I suspect, but none the less welcome... :y
its white, it has 4 wheels and........ a tacho ;D
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/character_04/IMG_4159.jpg)
Nice!
Any chance of cheap tow rates? (Now, you're a member!) ;D ;D ;D ;)
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BTW, welcome Character! :y
What is your mode of transport?
do us a favour, can you delet that photo, seems to leave my photobucket site open to others >:(
I'd guess its a "high horse"
sorry but that dude needs to get a life
Doug
Chap obviously does it (car transport etc) to earn a wage....
He certainly has some towing rig!
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/character_04/IMG_4294.jpg)
can you take that photo off please, seems to leave a link to me photobucket account, got photos of me late father on there :y
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I agree with nickbat though in regards to the lighting, thats the only area of concern tbh.
But if you were on the motorway... how do you know the indicators were not working??[/quote]
Hazards on the towing vehicle, not operating on the towed vehicle.
neither I'm afraid in this instance, that's the fact that the roof line of both vehicles was the same so you had to think for a moment what were you coming up behind, which of course means you're on him before you know it !! :o
I dont think a car towing another car is a complicated thing to understand
(wrote alot more but decided to delete it as i like it here)
Doug
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BTW, welcome Character! :y
What is your mode of transport?
I'd guess its a "high horse"
sorry but that dude needs to get a life
Doug
Chap obviously does it (car transport etc) to earn a wage....
He certainly has some towing rig!
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/character_04/IMG_4294.jpg)
see its a horse box haha :y
Doug
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BTW, welcome Character! :y
What is your mode of transport?
do us a favour, can you delet that photo, seems to leave my photobucket site open to others >:(
I'd guess its a "high horse"
sorry but that dude needs to get a life
Doug
Chap obviously does it (car transport etc) to earn a wage....
He certainly has some towing rig!
can you take that photo off please, seems to leave a link to me photobucket account, got photos of me late father on there :y
When posts with images are quoted, the link is preserved (as yours was earlier)
Easiest way to prevent 'browsing' is to set a password onto the Account. You can still hotling images to forums and such, but people will not be able to just 'browse' your account :)
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BTW, welcome Character! :y
What is your mode of transport?
I'd guess its a "high horse"
sorry but that dude needs to get a life
Doug
Chap obviously does it (car transport etc) to earn a wage....
He certainly has some towing rig!
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/character_04/IMG_4294.jpg)
see its a horse box haha :y
Doug
Wouldn't want to be the horse! ;) ;D ;D ;D
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BTW, welcome Character! :y
What is your mode of transport?
do us a favour, can you delet that photo, seems to leave my photobucket site open to others >:(
I'd guess its a "high horse"
sorry but that dude needs to get a life
Doug
Chap obviously does it (car transport etc) to earn a wage....
He certainly has some towing rig!
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n32/character_04/IMG_4294.jpg)
can you take that photo off please, seems to leave a link to me photobucket account, got photos of me late father on there :y
If you log out your account then access should be restricted to the pics posted only, as I understand it? You can edit your post to delete as well...
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RE: Locking/Restricting access to Photobucket
Account Options (top-right of page)
->Album Settings
Set to 'Private'
Put in a password
Also, untick 'Images link back to Album' for added security :y
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57 replies, 510 views, all in 68 minutes...on a Sunday around midnight, too!
Must be a record! ;)
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With reference to the towing image that shouldn't really have been put on here.., I think I've just found my B'day prezzie.., Jue take HINT. I want one of them lolol! Forget the engagement ring (for now).., I want one of them lolol!
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Helen is Hinting but I think she needs one of these going by past Ebay purchases. Collection started for birthday prezzie in March ;D ;D ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/juedu2/images-1.jpg)
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cheers for that paulw, just learnt something new myself yeppee.
Once again, thanks for your thought and views, very impressed with the activity on this forum, reminds me of disco3.co.uk.
I'm off to bed now and yes I do like the omega, particularly the lotus/carlton (ok so not an omega but hey ho).
:y :y
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Yep I do need one :P
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cheers for that paulw, just learnt something new myself yeppee.
Once again, thanks for your thought and views, very impressed with the activity on this forum, reminds me of disco3.co.uk.
I'm off to bed now and yes I do like the omega, particularly the lotus/carlton (ok so not an omega but hey ho).
:y :y
In that case, come back soon! :y :y
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d'you know what I no doubt will, ps to your member who drives "the best 4x4 by far" I assume you and I have met on disco3.co.uk :y
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d'you know what I no doubt will, ps to your member who drives "the best 4x4 by far" I assume you and I have met on disco3.co.uk :y
Not a real Land Rover though.............. ::) ::) ::)
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NOPE never been on there. :y :y
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BTW Jue.., that 4x4 looks pretty good too :P
Better hope that mobile phone phone call tomorrow mentions something like 'yes we have 100 mobile phones for you' huh?
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see Mike f's post Helen
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dont start now ;D
I need to got to beddy bies, up early to drop off SWMBO car in to the stealer, hence me being on the motorway this afternoon, car broken down in chippenham whilst taking the kids swimming :(
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NOPE never been on there. :y :y
If yer have a disco3, its the place to be !!!
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Says the man who is telling me to buy a Frontera lolol. Cheapskate!
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NOPE never been on there. :y :y
If yer have a disco3, its the place to be !!!
Small world init! ;D
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yep Ian, here I am with one window on this site and flicking back and forth to disco3 :D
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d'you know what I no doubt will, ps to your member who drives "the best 4x4 by far" I assume you and I have met on disco3.co.uk :y
That's good. You don't need to actually own an Omega to come here. Mind you, there might be someone on here that could sell you a metallic gold one...and apparently he can deliver anywhere!
;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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for a small price ;D ;D ;D ;D
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If a rope was allowed to be used and it snapped and caused a multi pile up and loss of life then, in this litigaous age, would you, as the surviving relative, quietly say that they were just trying to get a job done? Dont think so....
I thought you were allowed to use a rope to the next junction. :-/ And were able to use a rigid bar for a far as you wanted. :-/
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thats what i have always been told
towed a mate to next junction and off the motorway using rope (was just over a mile)
was the only thing we had available
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Can't believe I have just read every reply on this thread and still don't know who the culprit was!!!!!! :D :D
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I understand you can use a rigid bar but, this would require insurance and tax on the towed vehicle and somebody behind the wheel!
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MDTM pm sent
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well will clear my name my mv6 hasnt got a towbar :y and i will say i have towed with a a frame on the motorway at 50mph ::) ::) many times with a full trailer board but no becon ::)
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well will clear my name my mv6 hasnt got a towbar Thumbs Up! and i will say i have towed with a a frame on the motorway at 50mph Roll Eyes Roll Eyes many times with a full trailer board but no becon Roll Eyes
I wonder how many ppl thought it was you? lmao. the mystery continues :D
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well will clear my name my mv6 hasnt got a towbar Thumbs Up! and i will say i have towed with a a frame on the motorway at 50mph Roll Eyes Roll Eyes many times with a full trailer board but no becon Roll Eyes
I wonder how many ppl thought it was you? lmao. the mystery continues :D
quite a few from the pms i have recived lmao ;D
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amazing to see all the pics of the rear ends of silver omega estates in the gallery vanishing lol. or is it I cant find them.... ;D
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amazing to see all the pics of the rear ends of silver omega estates in the gallery vanishing lol. or is it I cant find them.... ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D
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well will clear my name my mv6 hasnt got a towbar Thumbs Up! and i will say i have towed with a a frame on the motorway at 50mph Roll Eyes Roll Eyes many times with a full trailer board but no becon Roll Eyes
I wonder how many ppl thought it was you? lmao. the mystery continues :D
quite a few from the pms i have recived lmao ;D
Woops! I thought it was you TBH ;D
Does fit the description well! :P :y
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well will clear my name my mv6 hasnt got a towbar Thumbs Up! and i will say i have towed with a a frame on the motorway at 50mph Roll Eyes Roll Eyes many times with a full trailer board but no becon Roll Eyes
I wonder how many ppl thought it was you? lmao. the mystery continues :D
quite a few from the pms i have recived lmao ;D
Woops! I thought it was you TBH ;D
Does fit the description well! :P :y
cheers ian lmao ;D
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just to get this straight , i cant tow another car that isn't road legal to begin with unless its via a trailer
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just to get this straight , i cant tow another car that isn't road legal to begin with unless its via a trailer
Correct, and even then it'd be too heavy to tow with an Omega (unless the car's significantly lighter than an Omega).
Kevin
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cheers Kevin :y
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just to get this straight , i cant tow another car that isn't road legal to begin with unless its via a trailer
Correct.... I used to get LOADS of work sitting around one particular area on my patch that had 4 very busy scrappers in the one industrial estate, before the current proliferation of Hiabs and beavertail recovery vehicles.... ;)
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I have in the past bought a carlton estate back from Portsmouth( the long way round. M3, M25,M4, M5and a30.)on a car trailer, towed by my carlton estate. Was passed by numourous police cars and none even looked twice. They must have had better things to do!!